❓ Roedy Black Publishing Inc.: Gold Standard Song List (2020)

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I'm not pretty sure about the egilibity of this one, it's a book with educational purposes (composing) but apparently the list was chosen in a acclaimed critic way by a commitee

https://www.goldstandardsonglist.com/index.html

"The Gold Standard Song List (GSSL) is an indexed database of information on 5,000 of the greatest songs in popular music, composed over a 100-year period, in 14 genres ranging from ragtime to rap."

"In 2001, Roedy Black Publishing Inc. commissioned the H.U.M.S. Committee to draw up list of outstanding songs of the English-speaking world in all major genres.


Although the original list (about 1,000 songs) was never published or named, it served as a resource of examples that were cited throughout How Music REALLY Works, 1st Edition, which was published online at Roedy Black Publishing’s GoldStandardSongList.com. website.

In 2002, Roedy Black Publishing asked the H.U.M.S. Committee to expand the list to 5,000 songs. It would serve as a major resource for readers of How Music REALLY Works, 2nd Edition.


This time, the list would have a formal identity: the Gold Standard Song List, or GSSL."

https://www.goldstandardsonglist.com/Pa ... tions.html

The list
https://www.goldstandardsonglist.com/Pa ... ort_2a.htm

The H.U.M.S. Committee was given a set of guidelines—that is, biases and limitations—for song selection, to ensure the quality and practical value of the list, and to keep it from expanding to an impractical length.

For the most part, the H.U.M.S. Committee followed the selection criteria. However, in the spirit of independent-mindedness, they made some exceptions, which the publisher accepted
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"all major genres".. picks only 14
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Plus 117 funny songs from the same source if that's eligible? Sorry about the formatting:

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1967

Alice's Restaurant Massacree

Folk/Roots

Guthrie, Arlo; REC: Arlo Guthrie

1979

All Things Dull And Ugly

Musical/Film

Idle, Eric/Traditional; REC: Monty Python; Eric Idle

1979

Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life

Musical/Film

Idle, Eric; REC: Monty Python; Eric Idle; Bruce Cockburn; Art Garfunkel

1946

Anything You Can Do

Musical/Film

Berlin, Irving; REC: Ethel Merman & Ray Middleton; Betty Hutton & Howard Keel

1997

Barbie Girl

Dance/ Electronica

Dif, R., Norreen, C., Nystrom, L., & Rasted, S.; REC: Velva Blu; Aqua

1984

Be In My Video

Rock/Pop

Zappa, Frank; REC: Frank Zappa

1990

Be My Yoko Ono

Rock/Pop

Page, S., & Robertson, E.; REC: The Barenaked Ladies

1999

Big Hat, No Cattle

Country/ Bluegrass

Newman, Randy; REC: Randy Newman; The Bellamy Brothers

1991

Big Ol' Goofy World

Folk/Roots

Prine, John; REC: John Prine

1930

Blood On The Saddle

Country/ Bluegrass

Cheetham, Everett; REC: Tex Ritter

1968

Boy Named Sue, A

Country/ Bluegrass

Silverstein, Shel; REC: Johnny Cash

1967

Brown Shoes Don't Make It

Rock/Pop

Zappa, Frank; REC: Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention

1967

Call Any Vegetable

Rock/Pop

Zappa, Frank; REC: Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention

1997

Carrot Juice Is Murder

Folk/Roots

Arrogant Worms, The; REC: The Arrogant Worms

1979

Catholic Girls

Rock/Pop

Zappa, Frank; REC: Frank Zappa

1959

Charlie Brown

R & B/Soul

Leiber, J., & Stoller, M.; REC: The Coasters

1964

Chug-A-Lug

Country/ Bluegrass

Miller, Roger; REC: Roger Miller

1964

Dang Me

Country/ Bluegrass

Miller, Roger; REC: Roger Miller

1995

Darn Folksinger

Folk/Roots

Snider, Bob; REC: Bob Snider

1973

Dear Abby

Folk/Roots

Prine, John; REC: John Prine

1942

Der Fuehrer's Face

Musical/Film

Wallace, Oliver; REC: Spike Jones

1973

Dinah-Moe Humm

Rock/Pop

Zappa, Frank; REC: Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention

1975

Don't Bogart That Joint

Rock/Pop

Ingber, E., & Wagner, L.; REC: Little Feat

1996

Don't Touch My Hat

Country/ Bluegrass

Lovett, Lyle; REC: Lyle Lovett

1988

Don't Worry, Be Happy

Rock/Pop

McFerrin, Bobby; REC: Bobby McFerrin

1976

Dropkick Me Jesus (Through The Goalposts Of Life)

Country/ Bluegrass

Craft, Paul; REC: Bobby Bare

1959

Elements, The

Musical/Film

Lehrer, T., & Sullivan, A.; REC: Tom Lehrer

1975

Emotional Weather Report

Jazz

Waits, Tom; REC: Tom Waits

1983

Every Sperm Is Sacred

Musical/Film

Jones, T., & Palin, M.; REC: Monty Python

1989

Everything Reminds Me Of My Dog

Folk/Roots

Siberry, Jane; REC: Jane Siberry

1943

Farmer And The Cowman, The

Musical/Film

Rodgers, R., & Hammerstein, II, O.; REC: John Raitt & Florence Henderson; Gordon MacRae

1980

Fish Heads

Rock/Pop

Barnes, Artie; REC: Barnes & Barnes; Wild Man Fischer

1983

Galaxy Song, The

Musical/Film

Idle, E., & Duprez, J.; REC: Monty Python; Clint Black; Eric Idle; Jane Voss

1926

Gimme A Little Kiss, Will Ya, Huh?

Jazz

Turk, R., Smith, J., & Pinkard, M.; REC: April Stevens

1959

Gimme That Wine

Jazz

Hendricks, Jon; REC: Lambert, Hendricks, & Ross; Georgie Fame & The Blue Flames; Blood, Sweat & Tears; Creek Bend; Jim Porcella; Sixth Wave; Lew London

1971

Give Me Back My Wig

Blues

Taylor, Hound Dog; REC: Hound Dog Taylor & The Houserockers; Stevie Ray Vaughan

1986

Gotta Get Me Moose, B'y

Folk/Roots

Blackmore, K., & Johnson, R.; REC: Buddy Wasisname And The Other Fellers

1990

Humpty Dance, The

Hip-Hop

Shock-G; REC: Digital Underground

1993

I Feel Lucky

Country/ Bluegrass

Carpenter, M. C., & Schlitz, D.; REC: Mary Chapin Carpenter

1952

I Know An Old Lady Who Swallowed A Fly

Folk/Roots

Mills, A., & Bonne, R.; REC: Alan Mills

1972

I Like Chinese

Musical/Film

Idle, Eric; REC: Monty Python; Eric Idle

1966

I Love Onions

Folk/Roots

Cochran, D., & Hill, J.; REC: Susan Christie

1939

I Went To A Marvelous Party (aka I've Been To A Marvelous Party)

Musical/Film

Coward, Noel; REC: Noel Coward; Beatrice Lillie

1992

If I Had A Million Dollars

Rock/Pop

Page, S., & Robertson, E.; REC: The Barenaked Ladies

1950

If I Knew You Were Comin' I'd've Baked A Cake

Musical/Film

Hoffman, A., Merrill, B., & Watts, C.; REC: Eileen Barton; Georgia Gibbs; Ethel Merman & Ray Bolger; Bing Crosby

1939

If I Only Had A Brain

Musical/Film

Arlen, H., & Harburg, E. Y.; REC: Ray Bolger; Harry Connick, Jr.; Julie Lavender

1971

Illegal Smile

Folk/Roots

Prine, John; REC: John Prine

1936

I'm An Old Cow Hand From The Rio Grande

Country/ Bluegrass

Mercer, Johnny; REC: Roy Rogers; Bing Crosby; Patsy Montana; Sonny Rollins

1948

I'm My Own Grandpa

Country/ Bluegrass

Latham, D., & Jaffe, M.; REC: Ray Stevens; Lonzo & Oscar; Homer & Jethro

1992

I'm Too Sexy

Rock/Pop

Fairbrass, F., Fairbrass, R., & Manzoli, R.; REC: Right Said Fred

1966

It Can't Happen Here

Rock/Pop

Zappa, Frank; REC: Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention

1997

Jesus' Brother Bob

Folk/Roots

Arrogant Worms, The; REC: The Arrogant Worms

1976

Junk Food Junkie

Rock/Pop

Groce, Larry; REC: Larry Groce

1994

King Of Spain, The

Rock/Pop

Moxy Fruvous; REC: Moxy Fruvous

1990

Leonard Cohen's Never Gonna Bring My Groceries In

Folk/Roots

White, Nancy; REC: Nancy White

1966

Leopardskin Pillbox Hat

Blues

Dylan, Bob; REC: Bob Dylan

1928

Let's Do It (Let's Fall In Love)

Jazz

Porter, Cole; REC: Frank Sinatra; Billie Holiday; Bing Crosby & The Dorsey Brothers Orchestra; Noel Coward; Peggy Lee; Eartha Kitt

1964

Little Boxes

Folk/Roots

Reynolds, Melvina; REC: Pete Seeger; Melvina Reynolds

1968

Loving You Has Made Me Bananas

Rock/Pop

Marks, Guy; REC: Guy Marks

1969

Lumberjack Song, The

Musical/Film

Jones, T., Palin, M., & Tomlinson, F.; REC: Monty Python

1939

Lydia, The Tattooed Lady

Musical/Film

Arlen, H., & Harburg, E. Y.; REC: Groucho Marx; Benjamin Sears; The Muppets; Bobby Short; Julie Wilson

1946

Mail Myself To You

Folk/Roots

Guthrie, Woody; REC: Woody Guthrie

1943

Mairzy Doats

Musical/Film

Livingston, J., Hoffman, A., & Drake, M.; REC: The Merry Macs; Burl Ives; Spike Jones

1928

Makin' Whoopee

Jazz

Donaldson, W., & Kahn, G.; REC: Eddie Cantor; Ray Charles; Barney Kessel; Rahsaan Roland Kirk; Branford Marsalis

1970

Mama Told Me Not To Come

Rock/Pop

Newman, Randy; REC: Randy Newman

1988

Mona Lisa

Hip-Hop

Slick Rick; REC: Slick Rick

1960

Mr. Custer (aka Please, Mr. Custer)

Rock/Pop

Darian, F., De Lory, A., & VanWinkle, J.; REC: Larry Verne

1993

Mr. Duality

Jazz

Greene, Richard; REC: The Bobs

1935

Mrs. Worthington (Don't Put Your Daughter On The Stage)

Musical/Film

Coward, Noel; REC: Noel Coward

1981

My Attorney Bernie

Jazz

Frishberg, David; REC: Blossom Dearie; David Frishberg; James Naughton; Genie Grant; Pat Donohue

1969

My Pal Foot Foot

Jazz

Wiggin, Dorothy; REC: The Shaggs

1968

My Pink Half Of The Drainpipe

Rock/Pop

Stanshall, Viv; REC: Bonzo Dog Band

1966

My Uncle Used To Love Me But She Died

Country/ Bluegrass

Miller, Roger; REC: Roger Miller

1977

Orgasm Addict

Rock/Pop

Devoto, H., & Shelley, P.; REC: Buzzcocks

1983

Penis Song, The (Not The Noel Coward Song)

Musical/Film

Idle, Eric; REC: Monty Python; Eric Idle

1967

Plastic Jesus

Folk/Roots

Cromarty, G., & Marrs, E.; REC: The Flaming Lips; Dead Kennedys; Billy Idol

1967

Plastic People

Rock/Pop

Zappa, Frank; REC: Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention

1973

Please Don't Bury Me

Folk/Roots

Prine, John; REC: John Prine

1959

Poisoning Pigeons In The Park

Musical/Film

Lehrer, Tom; REC: Tom Lehrer

1973

Ride 'Em Jewboy

Country/ Bluegrass

Friedman, Kinky; REC: Kinky Friedman & The Texas Jewboys; Willie Nelson; Billy Joe Shaver

1980

Rodeo Song, The

Country/ Bluegrass

Delorme, Gaye; REC: Gerry Lee & Showdown; Ray Pasnen

1990

Sensitive New Age Guys

Folk/Roots

Lavin, C., & Gorka, J.; REC: Christine Lavin

1993

She Don't Use Jelly

Rock/Pop

Flaming Lips, The; REC: The Flaming Lips

1978

Short People

Rock/Pop

Newman, Randy; REC: Randy Newman

1973

Sit On My Face

Musical/Film

Idle, E., & Parr-Davies, H.; REC: Monty Python; Eric Idle

1947

Smoke Smoke Smoke That Cigarette

Folk/Roots

Travis, M., & Williams, T.; REC: Tex Williams; Asleep At the Wheel; Willie Nelson

1970

Spam Song, The (aka Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam)

Musical/Film

Jones, T., Palin, M., & Tomlinson, F.; REC: Monty Python

1968

Springtime For Hitler

Musical/Film

Brooks, Mel; REC: Henry Mancini; Legs Larry Smith; John Morris; Mel Brooks

1987

Star Trekkin'

Rock/Pop

O'Connor, J., Kehoe, R., & Lister, G.; REC: The Firm

1976

Step Right Up

Jazz

Waits, Tom; REC: Tom Waits

1973

Swimming Song, The

Folk/Roots

Wainwright III, Loudon; REC: Kate & Anna McGarrigle; Maddy Prior; New Riders of the Purple Sage

1944

Swinging On A Star

Jazz

Van Heusen, J., & Burke, J.; REC: Bing Crosby; Frank Sinatra; Rosemary Clooney; Oscar Peterson

1962

Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues

Blues

Dylan, Bob; REC: Bob Dylan

1926

Talking Blues (Original Talking Blues)

Blues

Bouchillon, Christopher; REC: Chris Bouchillon

1963

Talking World War III Blues

Blues

Dylan, Bob; REC: Bob Dylan

1932

Teddy Bears' Picnic, The

Folk/Roots

Bratton, J. W., & Kennedy, J.; REC: Rosemary Clooney

1970

Their Way

Folk/Roots

Blue, B. & Revaux, J.; REC: Fraser Union; Bob Blue

1974

They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Anymore

Country/ Bluegrass

Friedman, Kinky; REC: Kinky Friedman & The Texas Jewboys

1966

They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-haaa!

Rock/Pop

Samuels, J., & Djivre, R.; REC: Napoleon XIV

1960

Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport

Folk/Roots

Harris, Rolf; REC: Rolf Harris

1957

Trouble In River City

Musical/Film

Willson, Meredith; REC: Robert Preston

1949

Twisted

Jazz

Gray, W., & Ross, A.; REC: Joni Mitchell; Lambert, Hendricks, & Ross; Manhattan Transfer

1973

Ukulele Blues

Blues

Mull, Martin; REC: Martin Mull

1982

Valley Girl

Rock/Pop

Zappa, Frank; REC: Frank Zappa

1965

Vatican Rag, The

Musical/Film

Lehrer, Tom; REC: Tom Lehrer

1978

Werewolves Of London

Rock/Pop

Zevon, W., Marinell, L., & Wachtel, R.; REC: Warren Zevon

1999

What's He Building?

Jazz

Waits, Tom; REC: Tom Waits

1911

Whiffenpoof Song

Musical/Film

Galloway, T., Minnigerode, M., & Pomeroy, G. S.; REC: Rudy Vallee; Bing Crosby

1966

Wowie Zowie

Rock/Pop

Zappa, Frank; REC: Frank Zappa & The Mothers Of Invention

1958

Yakety Yak

Rock/Pop

Leiber, J., & Stoller, M.; REC: The Coasters

1923

Yes, We Have No Bananas

Musical/Film

Silver, F., & Cohn, I.; REC: Eddie Cantor; Mary Lou Williams

1986

You Can Call Me Al

Rock/Pop

Simon, Paul; REC: Paul Simon

1972

You Can Leave Your Hat On

Rock/Pop

Newman, Randy; REC: Joe Cocker

1965

You Can't Roller Skate In A Buffalo Herd

Country/ Bluegrass

Miller, Roger; REC: Roger Miller

1972

You Never Even Call Me By My Name

Country/ Bluegrass

Goodman, Steve; REC: Steve Goodman; David Allan Coe

1935

Your Feet's Too Big

Jazz

Fisher, F., & Benson, A.; REC: Fats Waller; Leon Redbone

1936

You'se A Viper

Jazz

Smith, Stuff; REC: Stuff Smith & His Onyx Club Boys; Fats Waller; Jonah Jones; George Lewis; Kermit Ruffins
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I'm guessing the 25 Children's Songs won't fit the criteria, especially because too many entries aren't associated with a specific artist? No such list would be complete without Orgasm Addict and Right Said Fred anyway https://www.goldstandardsonglist.com/Pa ... Songs.html
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mileswide wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:03 pm I'm guessing the 25 Children's Songs won't fit the criteria, especially because too many entries aren't associated with a specific artist? No such list would be complete without Orgasm Addict and Right Said Fred anyway https://www.goldstandardsonglist.com/Pa ... Songs.html
Especially if it has Rolf Harris…
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The funny songs list has no Weird Al but it does have Star Trekkin’ and Mr. Custer…OK…
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StevieFan13 wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:15 am Especially if it has Rolf Harris…
I didn't even notice that! :o Neither did the book's editor judging by the lack of him in the Parental Warning
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mileswide wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:55 am
StevieFan13 wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:15 am Especially if it has Rolf Harris…
I didn't even notice that! :o Neither did the book's editor judging by the lack of him in the Parental Warning
He's also on the funny songs list! Jesus, did nobody pick up a paper in the last ten years? If the rock list has Gary Glitter, I swear...
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That being said, I appreciate the variety here, and also that they specify which particular recordings they're singling out for praise. There's stuff from all eras and genres. Did Steve Sullivan have a hand in this? This feels like something he'd do.
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Like, I'm looking at the hip-hop section and there are some deeeeeep cuts. Clearly someone here knew their shit because it's way more than just "Rappers' Delight," "The Message," etc.
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Bringing this back just to say I've been going in on this recently and it is an EXCELLENT source. I really hope we can include it.
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I totally agree with you StevieFan13. Superb selection of songs. The reggae section is top notch as well as the DANCE/ELECTRONICA one. HIP HOP section quite original as well. It should be definitely included in the same spirit as the 1001 SONGS book or the 7500 songs. I also like the way they include the song with all the different recording artists. Excellent find.
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o.m. wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:36 am I also like the way they include the song with all the different recording artists.
It’s nice, but for AM I think it’s a problem that they don’t define a definitive recording for each song.
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Henrik wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:59 pm
o.m. wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:36 am I also like the way they include the song with all the different recording artists.
It’s nice, but for AM I think it’s a problem that they don’t define a definitive recording for each song.
There is. It's on the songwriter section (bad design by the way). They wrote the composer(s) and next to appears the word REC with the performer chose on each song.
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panam wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:17 pm
Henrik wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:59 pm
o.m. wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:36 am I also like the way they include the song with all the different recording artists.
It’s nice, but for AM I think it’s a problem that they don’t define a definitive recording for each song.
There is. It's on the songwriter section (bad design by the way). They wrote the composer(s) and next to appears the word REC with the performer chose on each song.
But many songs have several performers.
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Henrik wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:59 pm
panam wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:17 pm
Henrik wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:59 pm
It’s nice, but for AM I think it’s a problem that they don’t define a definitive recording for each song.
There is. It's on the songwriter section (bad design by the way). They wrote the composer(s) and next to appears the word REC with the performer chose on each song.
But many songs have several performers.
I think that’s mostly the case for “standards” and maybe a couple of songs with one or two notable covers. “Smells Like Teen Spirit” I believe doesn’t cite Tori Amos’ version but does cite Pat Boone’s.

I dunno. It’s all up to you, but I’d personally be bummed if it wasn’t included. I think it’s very diverse and can help make some good changes to the rankings. I don’t think there’s a ton about it that would rule it out but I’m not the one to make that call of course
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Yeah, it's truth they don't choose all the versions but they choose a lot of them. Maybe following the year and the genre mentioned it could be chosen only the first recording artist.

For example:

1973

Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Folk/Roots

Dylan, Bob; REC: Bob Dylan; Eric Clapton; Guns 'N' Roses; Avril Lavigne; Dolly Parton; Roger Waters

It's obvious by the year and genre it's talking mainly about the Bob Dylan version.

But, I don't know, it's a tough one. Although I don't see wrong included all the versions mentioned. But it's just my opinion.
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Of course, there's also the chance you then have to make a judgment call on which version is "more" iconic. Like (and I haven't double-checked this but I'd be surprised if these weren't in there somewhere), on the subject of Bob Dylan, if "Mr. Tambourine Man" or "All Along the Watchtower" were mentioned, you'd probably have to (respectively) count it towards the Byrds and Jimi Hendrix besides just Dylan.

I realize this isn't helping my own case but this is one of the lists I'm a little passionate about. Which is a scary thing to have for a list but something I haven't felt since the NPR "Women+ in Music" list. It's the first time in a while I could see myself being actively disappointed by a list's exclusion when I feel like it's not impossible to justify adding it to the database. But, as I've said before and will say again, Henrik - like RuPaul - always has the final say. I've pled my case, and if that doesn't do the job, I'll gladly let it go and move on to the next thing.
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Well, I think the rule should be to include only the first recording artist mentioned. And that's it ! No exceptions ! Full stop ! A very few tunes like Mr. TAMBOURINE MAN will suffer from this rule. They probably had to do some hard choices sometimes. Especially in the jazz section. ACROSS THE UNIVERSE is credited to The Beatles as well as......Laibach. I mean it'always interesting to know that Laibach did a cover but the artist mentioned first is The Fab Four. ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER is attributed to Bob Dylan first and Hendrix after. Thus, people would think that the writer of the song is given more credit but the counter example is indeed RESPECT. The Queen of Soul is mentioned first and Otis Redding in second position. That proves that the staff had to chose their "definitive" recording version before including other notable recording artists. In the JAZZ section it is even more striking. Who would think that TAKE THE A TRAIN belongs to someone else than The Duke ? The other six (!) artists are probably worth to listen (especially Chaka Khan's) but that would be too much work to include all versions anyway. I was glad to learn that EMBRACEABLE YOU was credited to Billie Holiday for instance. I hope I made a point.
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o.m. wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:30 am Well, I think the rule should be to include only the first recording artist mentionned. And that's it ! They probably had to do some hard choices sometimes. Especially in the jazz section. ACROSS THE UNIVERSE is credited to The Beatles as well as......Laibach. I mean it'always interesting to know that Laibach did a cover but the artist mentionned first is The Fab Four. ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER is attributed to Bob Dylan first and Hendrix after. Thus, people would think that the writer of the song is given more credit but the counter example is indeed RESPECT. The Queen of Soul is mentionned first and Otis Redding in second position. That proves that the staff had to chose their "definitive" recording version before including other notable recording artists. In the JAZZ section it is even more striking. Who would think that TAKE THE A TRAIN belongs to someone else than The Duke ? The other six (!) artists are probably worth to listen (especially Chaka Khan's) but that would be too much work to include aller versions anyway. I was glad to learn that EMBRACEABLE YOU was credited to Billie Holiday for instance. I hope I made a point.
That means we get ”Barbie Girl” by Velva Blu instead of Aqua… :?
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Re: Gold Standard Song List

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Good example Henrik.
https://musicbrainz.org/work/907b9071-6 ... 31da9c71fb
I found all these covers. The song is mentionned in the Funny list of songs. So apparently they found that Velva Blu's cover is the funniest. Well, when you look at the video clip you understand why.
https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&s ... velva+blue
I mean it's like , if they had included Weird Al Yankovic version of BAD instead of the King Of Pop's one.
OK, Just another example.
PLASTIC JESUS. ....a traditional folk tune famously sung by Paul Newman in Cool Hand Luke.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_Jesus_(song)
If you listen to that version, there is nothing funny about it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dG9tuuznL1Y
Paul Newman is even crying when he's singing.
But the recording chosen is sung by The Flaming Lips because it is sarcastic and full of second degree humor.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WugBXw94mSM
Funnier than Dead Kennedy's version... (Well Mojo Nixon & Jello Biaffra's to be exact)....
So, to sum up, I reckon Velva Blu's version has been included in the Funny Songs section because it is a parody of Aqua's BARBIE GIRL.
By the way Henrik, I hope you're spending a nice holiday with your family. You changed my life with AM. And I will never thank you enough for that.
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Re: Gold Standard Song List

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The "Barbie girl" one is a really odd selection but their criteria was the funniest (at least according to them). Even it's an exception if you compare with another songs of the list of 117.
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Re: Gold Standard Song List

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https://www.goldstandardsonglist.com/Pa ... ge_Map.htm

I recommend to check the songs lists by genre. That's when you realize the vast selection of popular music they've gone to the trouble of making.
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Re: Gold Standard Song List

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Hi Henrik, you stated a few years ago that no list without any MASSIVE ATTACK would have no chance to get eligible for AM. And another forumite answered you to apply this rule for TEENAGE FANCLUB as well. Hmmmm, I checked and both UNFINISHED SYMPATHY and EVERYTHING FLOWS are included. So......no excuse... :mrgreen:
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Roedy Black Publishing Inc. (Canada) commissioned the H.U.M.S. Committee (Sweden) who made the final selection.
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Re: Roedy Black Publishing Inc.: Gold Standard Song List (2020)

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interesting source , in favor of inclusion
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Yeah, I checked it again and totally in favor of the inclusion, even with the all versions songs.
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Re: Gold Standard Song List

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o.m. wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:35 am Hi Henrik, you stated a few years ago that no list without any MASSIVE ATTACK would have no chance to get eligible for AM. And another forumite answered you to apply this rule for TEENAGE FANCLUB as well. Hmmmm, I checked and both UNFINISHED SYMPATHY and EVERYTHING FLOWS are included. So......no excuse... :mrgreen:
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