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2021 AMF Tournament of Champions: Round 1, Part 4

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Hello! Welcome to Round 1 of the 2021 AMF Tournament of Champions! Here are the rules for this game overall, as a refresher:

Each of the 27 competitors submitted one album and ten songs. The ten songs each compete in one of ten rounds, each with a different type of competition. Meanwhile, the albums will be rated (out of ten) as time goes on. After each round, each competitor will receive points based on their performance in the round. At the end of all ten rounds, the points will be totaled from each round and the rating of the album, and a winner will be declared!

This week's rules:
The first round is going to be a standard single-elimination tournament. We are now down to our top eight for Round 1, so just pick your favorite in each of the four matchups! The four winners will advance to the next round! Here they are:

Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes
Tom Waits | Take It With Me

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care
Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive
Tennis | Dreaming

Group 4
Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop

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Next up, the albums! Here is a list of every album: List

However, to make the albums more digestible, I will be 'featuring' one album a week for those who wish to follow along this way. This week's album is:

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Pink Floyd | Pulse (1995)



Alright, in conclusion:
Chose your favorite song from each matchup! You have exactly seven days (January 30th) from the time of this post!

Additionally, rate albums from the list out of ten. You can do this at whatever pace you like, but post your ratings in the most recent thread! And you can always rate previously featured albums as well!
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Group 1
4 | Death | Politicians In My Eyes
3 | Tom Waits | Take It With Me

Group 2
7 | Beach House | Take Care
2 | Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Group 3
5 | Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive
8 | Tennis | Dreaming

Group 4
1 | Shiro Sigasu ft. Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod
6 | The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop

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Pink Floyd | Pulse: 7/10
Highlights: "Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Live)", "Hey You (Live)", "Us and Them (Live)", "Eclipse (Live)", "Comfortably Numb (Live)"
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Group 1
Tom Waits | Take It With Me

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod

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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Group 3
Tennis | Dreaming

Group 4
Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod
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Terri Lyne Carrington + Social Science | Waiting Game (2019)
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Group 1
Tom Waits | Take It With Me

Group 2
Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Group 3
Tennis | Dreaming

Group 4
Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop
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Pink Floyd | Pulse 8.5/10
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care

Group 3
Tennis | Dreaming

Group 4
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop
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At no point was I ever thinking that I would prefer to listen to this over just making a playlist or listening to TDSOTM.
5/10. Its Pink Floyd, so its pretty good, but 2.5 hours of Pink Floyd is a lot, and it doesn't really excite me that much. I understand the appeal, but it really just bored me after a while.
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod

Pink Floyd - Pulse
My Uncle was a huge Pink Floyd fan & for a period he used to play this constantly - we went to one of the Earl's Court concerts on this tour - so I always hear this through that lens. As a show it was fantastic. As an album I was excited when this was released & I really wanted to like it (& I've heard it a lot) but I find it drags & doesn't really capture the excitement & energy of the show. That said I know my Uncle loved it, so maybe it is just down to how big of a Pink Floyd fan you are, but for me this one is a 4.
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Last week when Waiting Game was the weekly album pick I thought it would end up being the longest entry. Man, was I wrong.
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Tom Waits | Take It With Me
Joan Armatrading | Rosie
Tennis | Dreaming
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop

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Alright, here is how I an doing the points for this game, for a little bit of a guide:

Each round will reward 1000 total points, distributed among the 27 songs. Exactly how this is distributed will depend on the round, but for this round it will go like this:

Imagine four songs
Round 1:
Song 1 vs. Song 2 (3-9)
Song 3 vs. Song 4 (5-7)

Round 2
Song 2 vs. Song 4 (4-8)

Meaning that this is how the scores shook out:

Song | Round 1 Score | Round 2 Score
Song 1 | 0.25 | 0.00
Song 2 | 0.75 | 0.33
Song 3 | 0.42 | 0.00
Song 4 | 0.58 | 0.66

I then take the sum of these scores:
Song 1 | 0.25
Song 2 | 1.08
Song 3 | 0.42
Song 4 | 1.25

And take these totals divided by the sum of all scores (3 in this case), and multiply by 1000. This is a very simple way of dividing points. A bit TOO simple for me!

Song 1 | (0.25/3)*1000 = 083.33
Song 2 | (1.08/3)*1000 = 360.00
Song 3 | (0.42/3)*1000 = 140.00
Song 4 | (1.25/3)*1000 = 416.67

The total of the final score is 1000. However, I decided that I wanted to be easier to gain points if you were near the bottom, so instead I will be doing this:

Song 1 | SQRT(0.25/3)*1000 = 288.68
Song 2 | SQRT(1.08/3)*1000 = 600.00
Song 3 | SQRT(0.42/3)*1000 = 374.17
Song 4 | SQRT(1.25/3)*1000 = 645.50

But this doesn't equal 1000! In that case, I take each score and divided it by the new sum of the scores (Score/(288.68+600+374.17+645.50)) to find the new score out of 1000.

Song 1 | 151.27
Song 2 | 314.41
Song 3 | 196.07
Song 4 | 338.25

As you can see, this will make it much easier to gain ground near the bottom than the top, meaning that it will be easier to stay in the running after a poor round or two.
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I keep going back and forth on a ranking for Pulse - I like all the songs, and the live versions aren't bad, in fact some of them are really good. But it's a little soul-less - a good live album in my view elevates the songs beyond the studio versions and this doesn't do that.

It's a 5 for now.
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Beach House | Take Care
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive
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Group 1
Tom Waits | Take It With Me

Group 2
Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Group 3
Tennis | Dreaming

Group 4
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Group 3
Tennis | Dreaming

Group 4
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop
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Death | Politicians In My Eyes
Tom Waits | Take It With Me

Beach House | Take Care
Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive
Tennis | Dreaming

Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop

Album: Pink Floyd - Pulse 5
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod
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Pink Floyd | Pulse (1995): 7.5/10

Very tricky as I'm not a fan of post-The Wall Pink Floyd, and the performances of earlier material here are a bit mixed. I guess I'm a Roger Waters fanboy. Live at Pompeii is still the best PF live general release.
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care

Group 3
Tennis | Dreaming

Group 4
Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod


Pink Floyd | Pulse: 7

This was my first time listening to this album, but the version of Shine On You Crazy Diamond I have know for over 10 years and it has become my go-to version of the song when I don't want to listen to the whole of the Wish You Were Here album. In fact, I think this is the best version of Shine On (although I adore the original album cut of course). It is truncated very well (I think it is also the only song here that's shorter than the studio recording), taking the best of the two halves of the original record. The more spacey sound and especially the more passionate vocals also work miracles. In short, Shine On You Crazy Diamond on Pulse is one of the best recordings I ever heard.

That does not mean I'm a fan of the album as a whole. I mean, the songs on here are mostly brilliant, but the performances are not always ideal. A few of them are stunners, like Hey You and Wish You Were Here, which have surprisingly strong lead vocals from Gilmour, who sometimes falters in other songs (especially the Dark Side of the Moon tracks). Other songs are just nice to have, but mostly don't impress as much as the more tight studio recordings. I didn't mind going through most of these old favorites of mine in a new rendition, but overall I think this is just a solid but inessential live recording. I just like Pink Floyd a lot, so it scores probably a bit higher for me than it would for most.

By the way, this was the first time I heard any of the post-The Wall songs besides High Hopes. I never knew they would ever make something so close to tacky as Keep Talking. The other "new" songs are okay though.
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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Beach House | Take Care

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop

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4. Death - Politicians in My Eyes v. 7. Tom Waits - Take It with Me
5. Beach House - Take Care v. 3. Joan Armatrading - Rosie
6. Death Cab for Cutie - The Ghosts of Beverly Drive v. 2. Tennis - Dreaming
8. Shiro Sigasu feat. Arianne Scheiber - Komm, süsser Tod v. 1. The Jam - Man in the Corner Shop

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Group 1
Death | Politicians In My Eyes

Group 2
Joan Armatrading | Rosie

Group 3
Death Cab for Cutie | The Ghosts of Beverly Drive

Group 4
Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod
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Here are the results for this part! Sorry I'm a bit late on these, had a busy day!

Death | Politicians in My Eyes vs. Tom Waits | Take It With Me (15-6)

Beach House | Take Care vs. Joan Armatrading | Rosie (11-10)

Death Cab for Cutie | Ghosts of Beverly Drive vs. Tennis | Dreaming (12-9)

Shiro Sigasu, featuring Arianne Schreiber | Komm, süsser Tod vs. The Jam | Man in the Corner Shop (9-12)
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