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Welcome to the Round 1.8 of the 13th edition of the Moderately Acclaimed Albums poll!

Remember:
- Vote for your favourite album in each match-up.
- Anyone can vote as long as the voter has heard both albums.
- Good-spirited comments are encouraged, but not absolutely necessary.

Deadline = May 23rd 20:00 GMT +1

Bracket maker link: https://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=475615

Match-ups:
1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016) vs. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
2. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001) vs. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
3. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014) vs. The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
4. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999) vs. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)



These are the albums of the week:



Album: Atrocity Exhibition
Artist: Danny Brown
Date of release: September 26, 2016
Country: USA
Genre: Experimental Hip Hop, Hardcore Hip Hop
Label: Warp
Length: 46:38, 15 tracks
Song most streamed on Spotify: Really Doe
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Album: New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm
Artist: Stan Kenton
Date of release: 1953
Country: USA
Genre: Progressive Big Band, Bebop
Label: Capitol
Length: 25:35, 7 tracks
Song most streamed on Spotify: 23°N - 82°W
Spotify link (original order 5, 2, 11, 8, 9, 3, 4)




Album: Run Come Save Me
Artist: Roots Manuva
Date of release: August 13, 2001
Country: UK
Genre: UK Hip Hop, Abstract Hip Hop
Label: Big Dada
Length: 58:27, 17 tracks
Song most streamed on Spotify: Witness (1 Hope)
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Album: La revancha del tango
Artist: Gotan Project
Date of release: October 22, 2001
Country: France
Genre: Electrotango, Nu Jazz
Label: XL/Ya Basta!
Length: 58:40, 10 tracks
Song most streamed on Spotify: Santa María (Del Buen Ayre)
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Album: Become Ocean
Composer: John Luther Adams
Performer: Seattle Symphony / Ludovic Morlot
Date of release: October 30, 2014
Country: USA
Genre: Orchestral, Totalism
Label: Cantaloupe
Length: 42:14, 1 track
Song most streamed on Spotify: Become Ocean
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Album: Promenade
Artist: The Divine Comedy
Date of release: March 28, 1994
Country: UK
Genre: Chamber Pop, Baroque Pop
Label: Setanta
Length: 45:21, 13 tracks
Song most streamed on Spotify: Tonight We Fly
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Album: Clarity
Artist: Jimmy Eat World
Date of release: February 23, 1999
Country: USA
Genre: Alternative Rock, Midwest Emo
Label: Capitol
Length: 64:22, 13 tracks
Song most streamed on Spotify: For Me This Is Heaven
Spotify link (first 13 tracks)




Album: Forbidden Planet
Artist: Louis and Bebe Barron
Date of release: 1978 (first physical release, previously as film score on March 3rd, 1956)
Country: USA
Genre: Electronic, Film Score
Label: Planet
Length: 39:33, 23 tracks
Song most streamed on Spotify: Main Titles - Overture
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Mini-stats for the week:
a) Years:
- Mean 1994
- Range 1953-2016 (63 years)
- Breakdown by decades: 1950s (1), 1970s (1), 1990s (2), 2000s (2), 2010s (2)
b) Countries:
- America (5): USA (5)
- Europe (3): UK (2), France (1)
c) Genres:
- Hip Hop (2): Experimental Hip Hop (1), UK Hip Hop (1)
- Electronic (2): Electrotango (1), Film Score (1)
- Jazz (1): Progressive Big Band (1)
- Classical Music (1): Totalism (1)
- Pop (1): Chamber Pop (1)
- Rock (1): Alternative Rock (1)

Only one entry this time qualified as "Rock."


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1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016)
2. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001)
3. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014)
4. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999)
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1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016) vs. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
2. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001) vs. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
3. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014) vs. The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
4. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999) vs. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)
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La revancha del tango 85 - Run Come Save Me 72
Become Ocean 82 - Promenade 73
Forbidden Planet * - Clarity 20
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1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016) vs. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
2. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001) vs. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
3. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014) vs. The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
4. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999) vs. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)
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My picks:
1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016) vs. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
2. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001) vs. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
3. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014) vs. The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
4. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999) vs. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)

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1. Stan Kenton - New Concepts Of Artistry In Rhythm
2. Gotan Project - La Revancha Del Tango
3. The Divine Comedy - Promenade
4. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
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1. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm
2. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango
3. The Divine Comedy - Promenade
4. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet

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1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016) vs. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
Really not a fan of either. Surprised than Atrocity Exhibition is #1 for 2016 in RYM.
2. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001) vs. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
Nice discovery with Gotan Project, but can't beat a classic British Hip Hop album.
3. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014) vs. The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
The most difficult match up this week. John Luther Adams is soothing but the Divine Comedy takes up the crown, for variety reasons
4. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999) vs. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)
Forbidden Planet is just too bizarre on its own
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Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001)
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999)
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1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016) vs. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
2. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001) vs. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
-> I like Roots Manuva but La revancha del tango is my discovery of the week
3. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014) vs. The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
4. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999) vs. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)
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My votes:



5. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016) vs. 3. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
7. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001) vs. 4. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
1. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014) vs. 2. The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
8. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999) vs. 6. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)

My Top 3 songs of the week:
1. Become Ocean
2. Tonight We Fly
3. Santa María (del Buen Ayre)
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1. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
2. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
3. The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
4. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)
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Jimmy Eat World is so cringe I would vote for pretty much any other album over it.

Lyrics like "I'll miss you when you're like them".

This is an album for angry narcissistic teenagers who falsely consider themselves nonconformists.
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On the flip-side, this from Wire magazine's "100 Records That Set The World On Fire [When No One Was Listening]":

Louis & Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet OST
(Small Planet 1956)
By the time MGM got around to asking Louis and Bebe Barron to compose an electronic soundtrack for their prestige sci-fi presentation, Forbidden Planet, the husband and wife team had already worked with John Cage, Anais Nin, Aldous Huxley and Maya Deren. Mimicking Norbert Weiner's experiments involving negative and positive feedback in stressed animals, the Barrons had learned to make electrical circuits literally 'shriek', reprocessing the results through careful tape manipulation into extremely rich and varied electroacoustic soundscapes. Having supplied not only the film's music but its alien sound effects as will, the Barrons had to abide by the studio's decision to list their contribution as 'electronic tonalities' in the credits out of fear that the Musicians' Union might sue. This unfortunate trivializing of their pioneering work might explain why the Forbidden Planet album became such a relatively rare and neglected item. Harsh, metallic, and cavernous, the future never sounded this good again.
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Another Saturday shift. In case I don't finish, locking in 3/4 votes.

Stan Kenton-New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm
Gotan Project-La revancha del tango
John Luther Adams-Become Ocean

Song of the Week: "Become Ocean" by John Luther Adams
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6. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition v. 3. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm
1. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me v. 2. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango
4. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean v. 8. The Divine Comedy - Promenade
7. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity v. 5. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet

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1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016) vs. 2. Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
5. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001) vs. 3. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
4. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014) vs. 8. The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
7. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999) vs. 6. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)

A couple of thoughts:

- I never expected that Danny Brown would be my thing, but listening to a full album for the first time he really clicks with me. Both his rapping and the music are very creative and fun. It has a massive competitor in Stan Kenton, who would win most matchups in this game, but not this one.
- In a good week for hip-hop Roots Manuva also got to me with a more danceable take on the genre. Sadly, it is a little outclassed by Gotan Project who prove to me that for some reason revisionist tango albums on Moderately Acclaimed are always a welcome addition.
- The Divine Comedy remains annoying for me. There is something off-putting about the slimy dandy act of Neil Harron that not even irony can disguise. Also, the almost six minute name-dropping of authors is beyond pretentious, not helped by following it up with a song that name drops sea food. To be fair, putting it that way the contrast seems funny, but by the time we got around it my patience had worn out.
- Jimmy Eat World are the most generic rock band of their time. Change my mind.
- Louis & Bebe Barron on the other hand are the least generic soundtrack artists of their time. This feels more like sounds than music, but even close to seventy years later it feels very alien. It's not something I would listen to a lot, though it admittedly changes to feel of your room when it is on. The artists seem to have fun naming the tracks that feature Robby the Robot, with titles like Robby Arranges Flowers, Zaps Monkey and Robby, the Cook, and 60 Gallons of Booze. Makes it sound like a more wacky film than it is. Anyway, the film is highly recommended. Also, I once bought a vinyl of this soundtrack just for the look of it:
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24 hours left!
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Last vote for Clarity
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Jirin wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 7:44 pm Forbidden Planet * - Clarity 20
Sorry, Jirin, does this mean you are voting for "Forbidden Planet"?
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Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016) > Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm (1953)
Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me (2001) < Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
John Luther Adams - Become Ocean (2014) < The Divine Comedy - Promenade (1994)
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity (1999) < Louis & Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet (1978)
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Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition (2016)
Gotan Project - La revancha del tango (2001)
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2. Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me
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The results will be immediately up. But before, and since we are getting to the mid point on the Round 1, let me bring back a feature I used to do on past editions of the MAA poll, to showcase the female artists on our list. Sorry if in these non-binary times this may sound simplistic, sexist or even paternalistic, it's only my honest tribute to these artists and musicians. Anyway here they go...



Sade Adu (Sade)


Ana Matronic (Scissor Sisters)


Annarella Giudici (CCCP Fedeli alla Linea)


Arina Ephipania Simangunsong (Mocca)


Ellen Waddell, Aleksandra Berditchevskaia, Harriet Coleman (Los Campesinos!)


Jarboe (Swans)


Donna Lewis


Susan Heney (The Terminals)


Georgia Hubley (Yo La Tengo)


Betty Wright


Maggie MacNeal


Carly Pearce


Aaliyah


Kendra Smith (The Dream Syndicate)


Tate McRae


Morgan Kibby (M83)


Jennie Benford (Songs:Ohia)


Janet Beveridge Bean (Eleventh Dream Day)


Lauren Osborn & Kayleigh McKnight (Dolls of New Albion cast)


Bebe Barron
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This week the recovery appreciated on the previous week is confirmed, with a total of 18 voters, 1 more than the previous week and the same number than the best week (the first one):
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And these are the winners of Round 1.8:
1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition over Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm 9-6
2. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango over Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me 11-7
3. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean over The Divine Comedy - Promenade 9-6
4. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity over Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet 8-7

Round 1.9 up next!
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Honorio wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:09 am
Jirin wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 7:44 pm Forbidden Planet * - Clarity 20
Sorry, Jirin, does this mean you are voting for "Forbidden Planet"?
Yes. Forbidden Planet is in the category of albums that are so far outside my wheelhouse I don’t feel qualified to rate, so I abstain unless the opponent is over 85 or under 60.
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Jirin wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:05 pm
Honorio wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:09 am
Jirin wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 7:44 pm Forbidden Planet * - Clarity 20
Sorry, Jirin, does this mean you are voting for "Forbidden Planet"?
Yes. Forbidden Planet is in the category of albums that are so far outside my wheelhouse I don’t feel qualified to rate, so I abstain unless the opponent is over 85 or under 60.
Oops, sorry then. Your vote would have created a tie on the last bracket but, since your vote was not clearly stated in your post (or at least I didn't understand it like that) and I posted the results 24 hours ago, I think I'm going to keep "Clarity" as the winner. Sorry for that...
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Jimmy Ate the Forbidden Planet
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Honorio wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:26 pm
Jirin wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:05 pm
Honorio wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:09 am
Sorry, Jirin, does this mean you are voting for "Forbidden Planet"?
Yes. Forbidden Planet is in the category of albums that are so far outside my wheelhouse I don’t feel qualified to rate, so I abstain unless the opponent is over 85 or under 60.
Oops, sorry then. Your vote would have created a tie on the last bracket but, since your vote was not clearly stated in your post (or at least I didn't understand it like that) and I posted the results 24 hours ago, I think I'm going to keep "Clarity" as the winner. Sorry for that...
I thought it was clear just by putting it on the left side with the rest of the winners.
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Jirin wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 8:01 pm
Honorio wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:26 pm
Jirin wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 2:05 pm
Yes. Forbidden Planet is in the category of albums that are so far outside my wheelhouse I don’t feel qualified to rate, so I abstain unless the opponent is over 85 or under 60.
Oops, sorry then. Your vote would have created a tie on the last bracket but, since your vote was not clearly stated in your post (or at least I didn't understand it like that) and I posted the results 24 hours ago, I think I'm going to keep "Clarity" as the winner. Sorry for that...
I thought it was clear just by putting it on the left side with the rest of the winners.
OK, OK, I should have asked earlier since I had a doubt.
So we have a tie between Jimmy Eat World - Clarity and Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet with 8 votes each. As usual, next vote from someone who has not already voted for this match-up win.
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Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet
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Thanks, BleuPanda!

So these are the final winners of Round 1.8:
1. Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition over Stan Kenton - New Concepts of Artistry in Rhythm 9-6
2. Gotan Project - La revancha del tango over Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me 11-7
3. John Luther Adams - Become Ocean over The Divine Comedy - Promenade 9-6
4. Louis and Bebe Barron - Forbidden Planet over Jimmy Eat World - Clarity 9-8

Sorry for the confusion...
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