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Following with the poll from last month, in which I asked you to post your favorite Miles Davis songs and albums in ranked lists and then compiled them, this month we will be moving on to the next artist on the list, The Velvet Underground! Please post as many songs/albums in your lists as you would like! We'll only be doing studio albums (even Squeeze!), no live albums, so I'll post a list of eligible ones below. Thank you and have fun! Deadline will be April 30th, and I will be continuing to use the EOY Albums/Songs formula for this one.

Also, a reminder that the Miles Davis poll was extended to April 7th to accomidate his enormous catalog!

Albums:
01 | The Velvet Underground & Nico | 1967
02 | White Light/White Heat | 1968
03 | The Velvet Underground | 1969
04 | Loaded | 1970
05 | Squeeze |1973
06 | VU | 1985
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Can't wait to see Squeeze run away with this!
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Albums:
1. The Velvet Underground & Nico (10/10)
Their best set of songs, with the most copied sound in alternative rock. This album arguably made alternative rock even seem necessary.

2. White Light/White Heat (9)
They'd try to be more commercial later, but here was their F.U. in response to their debut tanking. "Sunday Morning" from their debut and "Sister Ray" here are my two favorite Velvets songs and represent their two different sides.

3. VU (8)
This collection is their best example of lightening up. This is practically tied with their self-titled album.

4. The Velvet Underground (8)
Not as thrilling as their first two (plus Doug Yule starts here, a smoother but inexpert version of Lou Reed). It's solid in its own right, though.

5. Loaded (7)
A little too smooth (and it didn't get them any hits anyway), plus the heaps of Doug Yule inadvertently opened the door for a false Velvet Underground album.

6. Squeeze (6)
Shockingly adequate. Especially coming off of my re-visit of the Shaggs, Squeeze seems like a masterpiece among albums that are considered fucking terrible. It is simply the work of a fairly average musician in his element, with occasional flashes of talent (and with some dopey songs about women). There's garbage by the top 100 AM artists that I'd rather hear less.

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Songs (Top track from each album in bold)
1. Sunday Morning
2. Sister Ray
3. All Tomorrow's Parties
4. There She Goes Again
5. Pale Blue Eyes
6. Heroin
7. What Goes On
8. Venus in Furs
9. Femme Fatale
10. I Can't Stand It
11. I'm Waiting for the Man
12. Satellite of Love
13. Andy's Chest
14. White Light/White Heat
15. Here She Comes Now
16. Who Loves the Sun
17. After Hours
18. Sweet Jane
19. She's My Best Friend
20. Ocean
21. Lady Godiva's Operation
22. European Son
23. Friends
24. Wordless
25. Beginning to See the Light
26. I Found a Reason
27. I'm Set Free
28. I'm Sticking with You
29. Candy Says
30. Ferryboat Bill
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Albums:

01 The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967)
02 The Velvet Underground (1969)
03 VU (1985)
04 Loaded (1970)
05 White Light / White Heat (1968)
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1. The Velvet Underground And Nico (10/10)
2. The Velvet Underground (10)
3. White Light/White Heat (10)
4. Loaded (8)

The band's '67 debut is one of the greatest records ever made in my view. Their self titled third album gets the nod over the sonic abrasiveness of the brilliant White Light/White Heat for its serene beauty and the sheer quality of Lou Reed's songwriting. Both albums, however, should be among the 50 greatest albums in any self-respecting greatest albums of all time list. And Loaded, whilst fantastic, is not the record any of the first three are.

The band's 1985 outtakes compilation album VU (9/10) is a superior album to Loaded. I acknowledge the rules of the competition, but thought VU warranted a special mention. Compilation albums generally should not be considered for greatest albums of all time lists or polls such as this one, but there are always exceptions to any rule. The nature of VU as a collection of lost album tracks, most of which would have been released under the MGM Records label as a studio album in 1969, before the label underwent a series of unforeseeable transformations which resulted in the tracks being shelved, does make the record more than just a compilation album. Similar to Hatful of Hollow by The Smiths (10/10), both of these albums are compilation albums only in the technical use of the term.
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As an addendum to my last post, I am pleased to see VU ranked #1595 in the Acclaimed Music all time list. As well as Hatful of Hollow at #638 in the list. I'd be interested if somebody could tell me how Acclaimed Music approach compilation albums, and what criteria they use to determine eligibility for the list.
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Holden wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:30 pm Following with the poll from last month, in which I asked you to post your favorite Miles Davis songs and albums in ranked lists and then compiled them, this month we will be moving on to the next artist on the list, The Velvet Underground! Please post as many songs/albums in your lists as you would like! We'll only be doing studio albums (even Squeeze!), no live albums, so I'll post a list of eligible ones below. Thank you and have fun! Deadline will be April 30th, and I will be continuing to use the EOY Albums/Songs formula for this one.

Also, a reminder that the Miles Davis poll was extended to April 7th to accomidate his enormous catalog!

Albums:
01 | The Velvet Underground & Nico | 1967
02 | White Light/White Heat | 1968
03 | The Velvet Underground | 1969
04 | Loaded | 1970
05 | Squeeze |1973
Hi Holden,

Could VU be added as an album? It’s on this site and it is no less of an album than Physical Graffiti by Led Zep or Tattoo You by the Rolling Stones to name a few.
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Madzong wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:51 am
Holden wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:30 pm Following with the poll from last month, in which I asked you to post your favorite Miles Davis songs and albums in ranked lists and then compiled them, this month we will be moving on to the next artist on the list, The Velvet Underground! Please post as many songs/albums in your lists as you would like! We'll only be doing studio albums (even Squeeze!), no live albums, so I'll post a list of eligible ones below. Thank you and have fun! Deadline will be April 30th, and I will be continuing to use the EOY Albums/Songs formula for this one.

Also, a reminder that the Miles Davis poll was extended to April 7th to accomidate his enormous catalog!

Albums:
01 | The Velvet Underground & Nico | 1967
02 | White Light/White Heat | 1968
03 | The Velvet Underground | 1969
04 | Loaded | 1970
05 | Squeeze |1973
Hi Holden,

Could VU be added as an album? It’s on this site and it is no less of an album than Physical Graffiti by Led Zep or Tattoo You by the Rolling Stones to name a few.
I've included archival albums before, so sure, we can include VU.
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I don't really think of VU as an album anymore, but I've now included it in my rankings.
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My amended albums list with archival release VU included

1. The Velvet Underground And Nico
2. The Velvet Underground
3. White Light/White Heat
4. VU
5. Loaded
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32 songs, that's where I draw the line!

1. Rock And Roll
2. I Heard Her Call My Name
3. Ocean
4. Sweet Jane
5. I'm Waiting for the Man
6. Venus in Furs
7. Sunday Morning
8. I'll Be Your Mirror
9. Heroin
10. All Tomorrow's Parties (single version)
11. Sister Ray
12. Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
13. Ride Into The Sun
14. New Age
15. Candy Says
16. Pale Blue Eyes
17. White Light/White Heat
18. What Goes On
19. Head Held High
20. I'm Set Free
21. European Son
22. Temptation Inside Your Heart
23. The Black Angel's Death Song
24. Who Loves the Sun
25. Beginning to See the Light
26. That's The Story Of My Life
27. Hey Mr. Rain (version one)
28. Jesus
29. Some Kinda Love
30. The Gift
31. I Can't Stand It
32. I'm Sticking With You


Albums:

1. The Velvet Underground
2. Loaded
3. The Velvet Underground And Nico
4. VU
5. White Light/White Heat
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Albums:

1. The Velvet Underground
2. Loaded
3. The Velvet Underground And Nico
4. VU
5. White Light/White Heat
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Albums:

1. The Velvet Underground & Nico
2. The Velvet Underground
3. Loaded
4. White Light / White Heat

Songs:

1. Heroin
2. Pale Blue Eyes
3. Sunday Morning
4. I'm Waiting for the Man
5. Sweet Jane
6. Venus in Furs
7. All Tomorrow's Parties
8. White Light / White Heat
9. Run Run Run
10. Rock and Roll
11. Femme Fatale
12. Sister Ray
13. What Goes on
14. There She Goes Again
15. Who Loves the Sun
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Albums:
01 | The Velvet Underground | 1969
02 | The Velvet Underground & Nico | 1967
03 | Loaded | 1970
04 | White Light/White Heat | 1968
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Songs TOP 40

1 All tomorrow's parties
2 Sunday morning
3 What goes on
4 I'm waiting for the man
5 Pale blue eyes
6 There she goes again
7 White light white heat
8 Heroin
9 Sweet jane
10 Rock & roll
11 I'll be your mirror
12 Sister ray
13 Venus in furs
14 Foggy notion
15 Oh sweet nuthin'
16 She's my best friend
17 Run run run
18 Who loves the sun
19 Satellite of love
20 Beginning to see the light
21 Stephanie says
22 I can't stand it
23 Femme fatale
24 Here she comes now
25 Lady godiva's operation
26 Temptation inside your heart
27 That's the story of my life
28 The gift
29 Lisa says
30 Murder mystery
31 European son
32 Candy says
33 Ocean
34 I'm Set Free
35 I heard her call my name
36 Head held high
37 Wordless
38 Friends
39 The black angels song
40 I'm sticking with you


Albums

1 Velvet underground & Nico
2 Velvet underground
3 VU
4 Loaded
5 White light white heat
6 Squeeze
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Well that was a bit easier than wrestling with Miles Davis’ discography...

I kind of forgot how consistently great the first 4 albums are here, there’s hardly a weak track between them.

Albums:

1. The Velvet Underground & Nico
2. Loaded
3. The Velvet Underground
4. White Light / White Heat
5. VU
6. Squeeze

Songs:

1. Heroin
2. Sweet Jane
3. I Found a Reason
4. I’m Waiting For the Man
5. Rock and Roll
6. Sunday Morning
7. Oh! Sweet Nuthin’
8. Venus in Furs
9. Candy Says
10. Pale Blue Eyes
11. Sister Ray
12. I’m Set Free
13. Cool it Down
14. Who Loves the Sun
15. There She Goes Again
16. Femme Fatale
17. I’ll Be Your Mirror
18. European Son
19. Stephanie Says
20. The Murder Mystery
21. After Hours
22. Jesus
23. New Age
24. All Tomorrow’s Parties
25. White Light / White Heat
26. What Goes On
27. The Black Angel’s Death Song
28. I’m Sticking With You
29. One of These Days
30. I Can’t Stand It
31. Ocean
32. Lonesome Cowboy Bill
33. Lisa Says
34. Head Held High
35. Train Round the Bend
36. That’s the Story of My Life
37. Beginning to See the Light
38. Run Run Run
39. Temptation Inside Your Heart
40. Foggy Notion
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01) The Velvet Underground & Nico | 1967
02) The Velvet Underground | 1969
03) Loaded | 1970
04) VU | 1985
05) White Light/White Heat | 1968

Songs :

1) Pale Blue Eyes
2) Venus in Furs
3) Heroin
4) All Tomorrow's Parties
5) Oh! Sweet Nuthin
6) After Hours
7) Candy Says
8) Sunday Morning
9) Here She Comes Now
10) Femme Fatale
11) Stephanie Says
12) Rock and Roll
13) The Black Angel's Death Song
14) What Goes On
15) That's The Story of My Life
16) The Murder Mystery
17) Sweet Jane
18) Beginning to See the Light
19) I Found a Reason
20) Jesus
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Albums:

1. The Velvet Underground & Nico
2. Loaded
3. The Velvet Underground
4. VU
5. White Light/White Heat
6. Squeeze

Easier this month.
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Songs

1 Sweet Jane
2 I'm Waiting For The Man
3 Heroin
4 Rock and Roll
5 Sunday Morning
6 Pale Blue Eyes
7 Sister Ray
8 Venus in Furs
9 All Tomorrow's Parties
10 Femme Fatale
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Songs:

1. Sweet Jane
2. Heroin
3. Femme Fatale
4. Rock and Roll
5. Sunday Morning

6. I’m Waiting For the Man
7. Oh! Sweet Nuthin’
8. Andy's Chest
9. Pale Blue Eyes
10. There She Goes Again

11. I’ll Be Your Mirror
12. Cool It Down
13. All Tomorrow’s Parties
14. Candy Says
15. Who Loves the Sun

16. White Light/White Heat
17. Beginning to See the Light
18. Foggy Notion
19. Lonesome Cowboy Bill
20. I'm Sticking With You

21. Lady godiva's operation
22. After Hours
23. Jesus
24. I Can't Stand It
25. She’ll Make You Cry

26. Caroline
27. Venus in Furs
28. Run Run Run
29. What Goes On
30. Some Kinda Love

31. I Found a Reason
32. European Son
33. The Black Angel´s Death Song
34. Sister Ray
35. Head Held High

36. Stephanie Says
37. Little Jack
38. One of These Days
39. Train Round the Bend
40. New Age

41 She's my best friend
42. I’m Set Free
43. That's The Story Of My Life
44. Crash
45. Lisa Says

46. Ocean
47. Temptation Inside Your Heart
48. Here she comes now
49. I Heard Her Call My Name
50. Send No Letter
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Songs:
1. Sunday Morning
2. Pale Blue Eyes
3. Candy Says
4. Heroin
5. Sweet Jane
6. Venus in Furs
7. Rock and Roll
8. What Goes On
9. Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
10. I'm Waiting for the Man
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Not a lot of love here for White Light/White Heat so far...It'll be third on my list but I'm surprised to see it may finish behind Loaded in the poll.
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Upon re-familiarising myself with everyone's top 5 VU albums and acquainting myself with Squeeze, I recognise I need to send their debut substantially higher the next time we do the AT albums poll:

Albums
1 | The Velvet Underground & Nico
2 | VU
3 | The Velvet Underground
4 | White Light/White Heat
5 | Loaded
6 | Squeeze

Songs
1 | Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
2 | Sunday Morning
3 | Heroin
4 | I Can't Stand It
5 | Rock and Roll
6 | The Black Angel's Death Song
7 | I Heard Her Call My Name
8 | After Hours
9 | Andy's Chest
10 | All Tomorrow's Parties
11 | Venus in Furs
12 | Lady Godiva's Operation
13 | Beginning to See the Light
14 | Little Jack
15 | Femme Fatale
16 | Ocean
17 | European Son
18 | Some Kinda Love
19 | Friends
20 | Pale Blue Eyes
21 | Who Loves the Sun
22 | I'm Waiting for the Man
23 | Sister Ray
24 | Stephanie Says
25 | She'll Make You Cry
26 | The Gift
27 | There She Goes Again
28 | The Murder Mystery
29 | Temptation inside Your Heart
30 | I Found a Reason
31 | I'm Sticking with You
32 | Sweet Jane
33 | Lisa Says
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Songs to come later maybe?

The Velvet Underground & Nico might be my most-listened to album of all time. I can't imagine it ever leaving my Top Ten. I understand any ranking of their first four albums, but I can't comprehend putting VU above White Light/White Heat. Also, Squeeze is a very underwhelming terrible album. Like it's not that bad at all, very inoffensive stuff.

1 | The Velvet Underground & Nico
2 | White Light/White Heat
3 | Loaded
4 | The Velvet Underground
5 | VU
6 | Squeeze
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1 | The Velvet Underground & Nico | 1967
2 | Loaded | 1970
3 | The Velvet Underground | 1969
4 | VU | 1985
5 | White Light/White Heat | 1968
6 | Squeeze |1973
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Albums
1 | The Velvet Underground & Nico
2 | White Light/White Heat
3 | VU
4 | Loaded
5 | The Velvet Underground
6 | Squeeze

Songs
01 | Sweet Jane
02 | Heroin
03 | I’m Waiting for the Man
04 | Venus in Furs
05 | All Tomorrow’s Parties
06 | Sister Ray
07 | Lady Godiva’s Operation
08 | Rock & Roll
09 | Femme Fatale
10 | White Light/White Heat
11 | The Black Angel’s Death Song
12 | Sunday Morning
13 | Run Run Run
14 | Foggy Notion
15 | I Heard Her Call My Name
16 | There She Goes Again
17 | Oh! Sweet Nuthin’
18 | Who Loves the Sun
19 | European Son
20 | What Goes On
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Albums
1 | The Velvet Underground
2 | The Velvet Underground & Nico
3 | White Light / White Heat
4 | Loaded
5 | VU
6 | Squeeze

Songs
1 | Jesus
2 | Venus in Furs
3 | After Hours
4 | Pale Blue Eyes
5 | All Tomorrow's Parties
6 | Heroin
7 | Sweet Jane
8 | Sister Ray
9 | Sunday Morning
10 | Candy Says
11 | Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
12 | Femme Fatale
13 | The Murder Mystery
14 | I'm Set Free
15 | Rock and Roll
16 | Lady Godiva's Operation
17 | The Gift
18 | I'll Be Your Mirror
19 | I'm Waiting for the Man
20 | Who Loves the Sun
21 | Beginning to See the Light
22 | Ocean
23 | Stephanie Says
24 | Louise
25 | I'm Sticking with You
26 | Little Jack
27 | European Son
28 | I Heard Her Call My Name
29 | There She Goes Again
30 | Foggy Notion
31 | What Goes On
32 | She's My Best Friend
33 | I Found a Reason
34 | Cool It Down
35 | Some Kinda Love
36 | Train Round the Bend
37 | Lisa Says
38 | Run, Run, Run
39 | Head Held High
40 | Mean Old Man
41 | Caroline
42 | I Can't Stand It
43 | That's the Story of My Life
44 | New Age
45 | Send No Letter
46 | White Light / White Heat
47 | Here She Comes Now
48 | Lonesome Cowboy Bill
49 | Andy's Chest
50 | One of These Days
51 | Temptation Inside Your Heart
52 | Wordless
53 | The Black Angel's Death Song
54 | Jack & Jane
55 | Friends
56 | She'll Make You Cry
57 | Dopey Joe
58 | Crash
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Here's my songs list!

1 | I'm Waiting for the Man
2 | Sweet Jane
3 | Venus in Furs
4 | Heroin
5 | Rock and Roll
6 | Sister Ray
7 | White Light/White Heat
8 | Sunday Morning
9 | What Goes On
10 | There She Goes Again
11 | Lisa Says (Strongly Prefer the 1969 Live Version on this one)
12 | Femme Fatale
13 | Run Run Run
14 | Pale Blue Eyes
15 | The Black Angel's Death Song
16 | Lady Godiva's Operation
17 | All Tomorrow's Parties
18 | I'll Be Your Mirror
19 | Foggy Notion
20 | I Heard Her Call My Name
21 | Candy Says
22 | Beginning to See the Light
23 | I Can't Stand It
24 | The Gift
25 | Here She Comes Now
26 | Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
27 | I'm Set Free
28 | Temptation Inside Your Heart
29 | One of These Days
30 | Some Kinda Love
31 | New Age
32 | That's the Story of My Life
33 | Head Held High
34 | Lonesome Cowboy Bill
35 | I Found a Reason
36 | She's My Best Friend
37 | Jesus
38 | Cool It Down
39 | Ocean
40 | Stephanie Says
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ALBUMS

6 | WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT | 1968
5 | SQUEEZE | 1973
4 | VU | 1984
3 | THE VELVET UNDERGROUND | 1969
2 | LOADED | 1970
1 | THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO | 1967

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Albums
1 | The Velvet Underground & Nico
2 | The Velvet Underground
3 | White Light/White Heat
4 | Loaded
5 | VU

Songs (all songs ranked from the above 5 albums; I can't be bothered to listen to Squeeze)
1 | Venus In Furs
2 | Sunday Morning
3 | Heroin
4 | I'm Waiting For The Man
5 | Sweet Jane
6 | Sister Ray
7 | Pale Blue Eyes
8 | I Heard Her Call My Name
9 | After Hours
10 | Rock & Roll
11 | What Goes On
12 | White Light/White Heat
13 | Who Loves the Sun
14 | All Tomorrow's Parties
15 | Beginning to See the Light
16 | There She Goes Again
17 | Run Run Run
18 | Femme Fatale
19 | Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
20 | I'll Be Your Mirror
21 | Stephanie Says
22 | I'm Set Free
23 | The Murder Mystery
24 | Jesus
25 | Here She Comes Now
26 | The Black Angel's Death Song
27 | That's the Story of My Life
28 | I Can't Stand It
29 | I'm Sticking With You
30 | Candy Says
31 | Ocean
32 | Train Round the Bend
33 | Foggy Notion
34 | Temptation Inside Your Heart
35 | Lady Godiva's Operation
36 | Lisa Says
37 | Cool It Down
38 | Some Kinda Love
39 | European Son
40 | The Gift
41 | I Found a Reason
42 | She's My Best Friend
43 | Andy's Chest
44 | One of These Days
45 | New Age
46 | Head Held High
47 | Lonesome Cowboy Bill
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Father2TheMan wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:03 pm ALBUMS

6 | WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT | 1968
5 | SQUEEZE | 1973
I thought this might happen at some point, though more likely during the next 10 months bonus game. (I don't plan on Squeeze being my #46 of 46. Of the likely set of 46 albums, the only ones I'm not too familiar with are a couple of Kanye albums, and even if I find him sort of annoying, there's no way he's scraping the bottom.)
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ALBUMS
1. Velvet Underground & Nico
2. Velvet Underground
3. Loaded
4. VU
5. White Light/White Heat

TRACKS
1. I'm Waiting for the man
2. Sweet Jane
3. Femme Fatale
4. Heroin
5. Venus in Furs
6. I'll Be Your Mirror
7. Pale Blue Eyes
8. All Tomorrows Parties
9. Sunday Morning
10. What Goes On
11. Rock 'n' Roll
12. There She Goes Again
13. White Light/White Heat
14. Stephanie Says
15. Run Run Run
16. Foggy Notion
17. The Gift
18. The Black Angel's Death Song
19. Some Kinda Love
20. Temptation Inside Your Heart
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Songs:

1. Sweet Jane (Fully Loaded version)
2. Oh! Sweet Nuthin’
3. Pale Blue Eyes
4. Sunday Morning
5. I’m Waiting For The Man
6. Rock And Roll (Fully Loaded version)
7. Who Loves The Sun
8. What Goes On
9. Beginning To See The Light
10. White Light / White Heat
11. Ride Into The Sun (Another View)
12. Ride Into The Sun (What Goes On Compilation Version)
13. Run Run Run
14. There She Goes Again
15. Here She Comes Now
16. Venus In Furs
17. Ocean (VU version)
18. She’s My Best Friend (VU version)
19. Lisa Says (VU version)
20. Foggy Notion (VU version)
21. Stephanie Says (VU version)
22. One Of These Days (VU version)
23. Candy Says
24. I can’t Stand It (VU version)
25. New Age (Fully Loaded version)
26. I Found A Reason
27. Andy’s Chest (VU version)
28. Heroin
29. Sister Ray
30. I Heard Her Call My Name
31. Femme Fatale
32. We’re Going To Have A Real Cool Time Together (Another View)
33. All Tomorrow’s Parties
34. Hey Mr Rain - Version 1 (Another View)
35. Cool It Down
36. Head Held High
37. Lonesome Cowboy Bill
38. Train Round The Bend
39. I’ll Be Your Mirror
40. I’m Sticking With You (VU version)
41. Jesus
42. Coney Island Steeplechase (Another View)
43. Ferryboat Bill (Another View)
44. Countess From Hong Kong (Peel Slowly And See)
45. Some Kinda Love
46. I’m Set Free
47. That’s The Story Of My Life
48. Temptation Inside Your Heart (VU version)
49. After Hours
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The Underground has a lot of songs I enjoy but they also have a fair amount of tunes that suffer due to a lack of editing. #48 would move up to 31 if it faded at 7:30 rather than going on another 10 minutes after that. That is part of what ended WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT at the bottom of my album list.

SONGS

50 | We're Gonna Have a Real Good Time Together (1974)
49 | That's the Story of My Life (1969)
48 | Sister Ray (1968)
47 | Ocean (1984)
46 | Ferryboat Bill (1986)
45 | Coney Island Steeplechase (1986)
44 | Guess I'm Falling in Love (instrumental) (1993)
43 | Wordless (1973)
42 | Andy's Chest (1984)
41 | New Age (1970)
40 | She's My Best Friend (1984)
39 | One of These Days (1984)
38 | Lady Godiva's Operation (1968)
37 | There She Goes Again (1967)
36 | Head Held High (1970)
35 | Friends (1973)
34 | Cool it Down (1970)
33 | What Goes On (1969)
32 | Some Kinda Love (1969)
31 | Little Jack (1973)
30 | Foggy Notion (1984)
29 | Ride Into the Sun (1984)
28 | Caroline (1973)
27 | Over You (live) (1974)
26 | I'll Be Your Mirror (1966)
25 | I Can't Stand It (1984)
24 | Temptation Inside Your Heart (1984)
23 | White Light/White Heat (1967)
22 | Lisa Says (1984)
21 | Beginning to See the Light (1969)
20 | I Found a Reason (1970)
19 | Stephanie Says (1984)
18 | I'm Sticking With You (1984)
17 | The Gift (1968)
16 | Oh! Sweet Nuthin' (1970)
15 | Jesus (1969)
14 | Louise (1973)
13 | Candy Says (1969)
12 | Run Run Run (1967)
11 | Who Loves the Sun? (1970)
10 | After Hours (1969)
9 | Sweet Jane (1973)
8 | Femme Fatale (1966)
7 | Sunday Morning (1966)
6 | Venus in Furs (1967)
5 | Pale Blue Eyes (1969)
4 | All Tomorrow's Parties (1966)
3 | Rock and Roll (1973)
2 | I'm Waiting for the Man (1967)
1 | Heroin (1967)
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Father2TheMan wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:55 pm The Underground has a lot of songs I enjoy but they also have a fair amount of tunes that suffer due to a lack of editing. #48 would move up to 31 if it faded at 7:30 rather than going on another 10 minutes after that. That is part of what ended WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT at the bottom of my album list.
I'd probably like Sister Ray less if it was less of an epic. While I admit you have to be in the right mood to appreciate it, when the song hits you right it's easy to get lost in the bizarre mixture of guitar and organ.

I would agree some of the Velvet's experiments fall flat, though it's their willingness to try so many things that adds to their charm. European Son had the potential to be one of the best songs in their catalogue based on its first minute, but the freakout goes on for too long and is not as engaging as similar segments in Sister Ray.
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The infinite influence:
"Brian Eno once said: "Maybe the first Velvet Underground album only sold 30,000 copies, but everyone who bought it formed a band." And the sentence became a mantra for lazy opinion-makers and one of those supposedly irrevocable axioms of rock history. But how much truth is there in this cliché inherited generation after generation?
Only for being the pioneer band developing a rock language not based on blues or other American roots music but on a certain European song and atonal avant-garde, The Velvet Underground are already the starting point from which an infinite number of other paths begin. (…) You can almost fit entire style books of later acts into specific songs by the band: from "Jesus" it comes Low, from "Stephanie Says" Belle & Sebastian, from "The Ocean" Galaxie 500, from "Cool It Down" Royal Trux, from "What Goes On" The Wedding Present, The Feelies and even the first Stereolab… However, it may be wiser to identify only three main threads (not exclusive categories either):
1) The Velvets as the seed of arty experimentation applied to rock: from the pagan rites of songs like "All Tomorrows's Parties" (a whole festival is called like that!) and from the electric eruptions of the album "White Light / White Heat" grew the no wave, some Joy Division twists or the first Nick Cave, Einstürzende Neubaten, Sonic Youth, Swans, The Jesus & Mary Chain, Spacemen 3, Los Planetas, The Dirty Three or Mogwai.
2) The Velvets as initiators of a certain type of cottony song, between the junkie lullaby, the pop hypersensitivity and the children's cabaret: Young Marble Giants, Tracey Thorn, Violent Femmes, R.E.M. at their most fragile, Beat Happening, Cowboy Junkies or the Moldy Peaches could be filed under this category. Also Jonathan Richman, of course, that even made a tribute song called "The Velvet underground." (…)
3) The Velvets as the big bang of an insistent, urban, vicious and cultured rock, that of "I'm Waiting for the Man," "Can't Stand It" or "Rock & Roll": without those songs as a mirror, The Stooges, David Bowie (at his most streetwise, like in "Queen Bitch"), the Swell Maps, Television Pesonalities, the Dream Syndicate, Derribos Arias, Parálisis Permanente, Echo & the Bunnymen, Pixies ("I wanna be a singer like Lou Reed," sang Black Francis in "I've Been Tired"), Los Bichos, Surfin' Bichos, Diabologum or even LCD Soundsystem ("Drunk Girls"!) might have had a different reflection."
(from "The infinite influence," an article written by Joan Pons for Rockdelux, published in December of 2013 after Lou Reed's death, edited and translated by myself)

Agree with Joan Pons wholeheartedly. Only the three songs from the first album that appear on my Top 5 songs list singlehandedly created three styles (respectively dream pop, art rock and punk rock) that blossomed 10 or even 20 years after.




Albums:

1. The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967, my #16 album of all-time)
A series of fortunate collisions generated this masterpiece: the collision between the street-wise rock & roll of Lou Reed and the classical background of John Cale, between inquisitive and intuitive musicians like Reed & Cale (not forgetting the important contributions of Morrison, Tucker and the mysterious guest Nico) and Andy Warhol (the pop-art Pope at the time), between heroin and pushers urban stories and the decadent glamour of The Factory transvestites and starlets, between rock & roll and art.

2. The Velvet Underground (1969)
Legend says that the clean sound of the album was the result of the band's gear and fuzz pedals being stolen. A fruitful theft.

3. White Light/White Heat (1968)
At 2:15 in "I Heard Her…" a deafening high-pitched feedback took the ones who dared through a wormhole to the future of music.

4. VU (1985)
Their pop album, the counterpoint to the avant-garde first, the experimental second, the opiate third and the classic-rock fourth.

5. Loaded (1970)
Atlantic wanted hits and they delivered an album loaded with should-have-been hits that didn't prevent the band disintegration.

6. Squeeze (1973)
Another View (1986)




Songs:
(every Velvet Underground song ranked, except the hard-to-find ones appearing on the box sets "Final V.U. 1971-1973" and "What Goes On")

1. Sunday Morning (1966, my #42 song of all time)
I always have half-assumed that Nico was the singer of this moody song but I was puzzled some years ago when I read that Lou Reed sang the song with his sweetest and softest voice. I didn't believe it initially but the more times I listened to the song the more I realized that this voice didn't come from the icy blonde German beauty but from Lou-Lou. Quite disturbing. Boys that sound like girls, girls who look like boys (Mo Tucker), the Velvets among other things also predated the gender confusion of today.

2. Candy Says (1969)
The first (and best) song of the "… Says" series. Reed (through Doug Yule's voice) voicing the feelings of a transgender woman.

3. Venus in Furs (1967)
John Cale's chilling viola drone illustrates bold lyrics about sadomasochism. The moment when rock music entered into adulthood.

4. Pale Blue Eyes (1969)
Tying my profession and my passion some years ago I've made a list of songs about eyes. This one was the number one, of course.

5. I'm Waiting for the Man (1967)
There had been a long-time relationship between drugs and musicians but no one dared to board the subject so directly before.

6. Stephanie Says (1985)
7. Sweet Jane (1970)
8. All Tomorrow's Parties (1966)
9. Heroin (1967)
10. I Heard Her Call My Name (1968)
11. Who Loves the Sun (1970)
12. Jesus (1969)
13. Femme Fatale (1966)
14. Sister Ray (1968)
15. After Hours (1969)
16. Temptation Inside Your Heart (1985)
17. There She Goes Again (1967)
18. White Light/White Heat (1967)
19. Beginning to See the Light (1969)
20. I'm Sticking with You (1985)
21. What Goes On (1969)
22. I Can't Stand It (1985)
23. Satellite of Love (1995)
24. Oh! Sweet Nuthin' (1970)
25. We're Gonna Have a Real Good Time Together (1974)

26. Rock & Roll (1970)
27. Run Run Run (1967)
28. I'm Set Free (1969)
29. I'll Be Your Mirror (1966)
30. Ocean (1974)
31. Foggy Notion (1985)
32. I Found a Reason (1970)
33. The Gift (1968)
34. The Black Angel's Death Song (1967)
35. Some Kinda Love (1969)
36. Sad Song (1995)
37. She's My Best Friend (1985)
38. New Age (1970)
39. Here She Comes Now (1967)
40. I Love You (1995)
41. Coney Island Steeplechase (1986)
42. Hey Mr. Rain (Version I) (1986)
43. Lady Godiva's Operation (1968)
44. The Murder Mystery (1969)
45. Andy's Chest (1985)
46. Ride Into the Sun (1986)
47. Lisa Says (1974)
48. Cool It Down (1970)
49. European Son (1967)
50. Little Jack (1973)

51. Oh Gin (1995)
52. Friends (1973)
53. Head Held High (1970)
54. Wrap Your Troubles in Dreams (demo) (1995)
55. Walk and Talk (1995)
56. Love Makes You Feel Ten Feet Tall (demo) (1997)
57. Sheltered Life (demo) (1995)
58. Loop (1966)
59. Melody Laughter (1995)
60. Train Round the Bend (1970)
61. One of These Days (1985)
62. That's the Story of My Life (1969)
63. Coyote (1993)
64. The Nothing Song (2012)
65. Noise (1966)
66. Guess I'm Falling In Love (1986)
67. Caroline (1973)
68. Velvet Nursery Rhyme (1993)
69. Ferryboat Bill (1986)
70. Lonesome Cowboy Bill (1970)
71. Over You (1974)
72. Countess from Hong Kong (demo) (1995)
73. She'll Make You Cry (1973)
74. Sweet Bonnie Brown/It's Just Too Much (1974)
75. Louise (1973)

76. Miss Joanie Lee (2012)
77. Prominent Men (demo) (1995)
78. I'm Gonna Move Right In (1986)
79. Dopey Joe (1973)
80. Crash (1973)
81. I'm Not a Young Man Anymore (2013)
82. Follow the Leader (2001)
83. Jack & Jane (1973)
84. Wordless (1973)
85. It's All Right (The Way That You Live) (demo) (1995)
86. There Is No Reason (demo) (1995)
87. Booker T. (live) (1995)
88. Mean Old Man (1973)
89. I'm Not Too Sorry (Now That You're Gone) (demo) (1995)
90. Walk Alone (2012)
91. Send No Letter (1973)
92. Crackin' Up/Venus in Furs (2012)

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1. The Velvet Underground & Nico
2. The Velvet Underground
3. Loaded
4. VU
5. White Light/White Heat



1. Venus in Furs
2. I'm Waiting for the Man
3. Pale Blue Eyes
4. Sunday Morning
5. Heroin
6. Femme Fatale
7. I'm Set Free
8. Sweet Jane
9. Who Loves the Sun?
10. Candy Says
11. There She Goes Again
12. I Can't Stand It
13. Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
14. What Goes On
15. Beginning to See the Light
16. New Age
17. Foggy Notion
18. The Murder Mystery
19. All Tomorrow's Parties
20. White Light/White Heat
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Albums:

1. Velvet Underground
2. Velvet Underground and Nico
3. Loaded
4. VU
5. White Light/White Heat
6. Squeeze

Songs:

1. Venus in Furs
2. Jesus
3. Pale Blue Eyes
4. Sunday Morning
5. What Goes On
6. Sweet Jane 
7. Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
8. Ocean
9. Candy Says
10. I'm Set Free
11. I'm Waiting for the Man
12. I Found a Reason
13. I'll Be Your Mirror
14. Sad Song
15. Rock & Roll 
16. New Age
17. All Tomorrow's Parties
18. Who Loves the Sun
19. Femme Fatale
20. Run Run Run
21. Here She Comes Now
22. That's the Story of My Life
23. There She Goes Again
24. Ride into the Sun
25. I'm Sticking with You
26. I Heard Her Call My Name
27. After Hours
28. One of These Days
29. Cool It Down
30. Lady Godiva's Operation
31. Stephanie Says
32. Oh Gin
33. The Gift
34. Foggy Notion
35. White Light/White Heat
36. Head Held High
37. I Love You
38. There is No Reason 
39. Temptation Inside Your Heart
40. Lisa Says
41. Heroin
42. Beginning to See the Light
43. It's All Right (The Way That You Live) 
44. Hey Mr. Rain
45. Train Round the Bend
46. Countess from Hong Kong 
47. Lonesome Cowboy Bill
48. Walk and Talk
49. The Black Angel's Death Song
50. Sister Ray
51. Some Kinda Love
52. Guess I'm Falling in Love 
53. The Murder Mystery
54. European Son
55. Sheltered Life 
56. I'm Not Too Sorry (Now That You're Gone) 
57. I Can't Stand It
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Songs
1. Sunday Morning (1966)
2. Femme Fatale (1966)
3. What Goes On (1969)
4. I'll Be Your Mirror (1966)
5. There She Goes Again (1967)
6. All Tomorrow's Parties (1966)
7. Candy Says (1969)
8. Pale Blue Eyes (1969)
9. Sweet Jane (1970)
10. Rock & Roll (1970)
11. I'm Waiting for the Man (1967)
12. Who Loves the Sun (1970)
13. Venus in Furs (1967)
14. Run Run Run (1967)
15. Lady Godiva's Operation (1968)
16. Heroin (1967)
17. Beginning to See the Light (1969)
18. Lisa Says (1985)
19. That's the Story of My Life (1969)
20. Here She Comes Now (1967)
21. Stephanie Says (1985)
22. After Hours (1969)
23. Ocean (1985)
24. White Light/White Heat (1967)
25. Oh! Sweet Nuthin' (1970)
26. Andy's Chest (1985)
27. The Black Angel's Death Song (1967)
28. One of These Days (1985)
29. I Found a Reason (1970)
30. Jesus (1969)
31. I'm Sticking with You (1985)
32. European Son (1967)
33. Temptation Inside Your Heart (1985)
34. Lonesome Cowboy Bill (1970)
35. She's My Best Friend (1985)
36. New Age (1970)
37. I Can't Stand It (1984)
38. Some Kinda Love (1969)
39. I'm Set Free (1969)
40. Foggy Notion (1984)
41. I Heard Her Call My Name (1968)
42. Head Held High (1970)
43. The Murder Mystery (1969)
44. Cool It Down (1970)
45. Sister Ray (1968)

Albums
1. The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967)
2. The Velvet Underground (1969)
3. Loaded (1970)
4. VU (1985)
5. White Light/White Heat (1968)
6. Squeeze (1973)
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Oh yeah, since VU now counts, the spectacle of seeing what if anything that people would rate above Squeeze in the 10 artist bonus game has now been thwarted. I probably would have placed it above one of the Clash albums, and a Beach Boys album or two.
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Albums
1 | Loaded | 1970
2 | The Velvet Underground | 1969
3 | The Velvet Underground & Nico | 1967
4 | VU | 1985
5 | White Light/White Heat | 1968

Songs
1 | Sweet Jane
2 | Heroin
3 | Sunday Morning
4 | Pale Blue Eyes
5 | What Goes On
6 | Rock and Roll
7 | Who Loves the Sun
8 | I Found a Reason
9 | Stephanie Says
10 | I'm Set Free
11 | Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
12 | Candy Says
13 | After Hours
14 | There She Goes Again
15 | Femme Fatale
16 | I'm Waiting for the Man
17 | Beginning to See the Light
18 | That's the Story of My Life
19 | Jesus
20 | Cool It Down
21 | New Age
22 | Head Held High
23 | Some Kinda Love
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I don't at all understand this emerging consensus that White Light/White Heat is not only worse than Loaded, but also worse than VU.
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Jackson wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:57 pm I don't at all understand this emerging consensus that White Light/White Heat is not only worse than Loaded, but also worse than VU.
In my opinion, White Light/White Heat is worlds ahead of both Loaded and The Velvet Underground. White Light/White Heat is an incredible experience. It has to be one of the most fun and self-indulgent albums I've ever heard and I love every second of it! I can understand how one might be a bit put off by it, it's certainly the least accessible of the four big VU albums, but I still think it's sort of a masterpiece that trumps each of VU's other albums aside from VU&N by a pretty wide margin.
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