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Although, relating to this, Nick should be chuffed to know that his Cardi B rant is still fondly(?) remembered on r/indieheads 5 years later. As a frequent lurker but not so much a commentator on this site, this kind of blew my mind! The internet is a shockingly small world I guess (and the part of...

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Sweepstakes Ron wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:52 pm Although, relating to this, Nick should be chuffed to know that his Cardi B rant is still fondly(?) remembered on r/indieheads 5 years later.

As a frequent lurker but not so much a commentator on this site, this kind of blew my mind!

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I think it's cool to shake up the canon a bit but I also think one can do it in more subtle ways. Like pushing Siamese Dream or the Soft Bulletin so far back just seems like they're trying to be making a statement (maybe I'm being too much of a conspiracy theorist here). I like when they sprinkle i...

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I think it's cool to shake up the canon a bit but I also think one can do it in more subtle ways. Like pushing Siamese Dream or the Soft Bulletin so far back just seems like they're trying to be making a statement (maybe I'm being too much of a conspiracy theorist here). I like when they sprinkle it...

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VERY IMPORTANT NOTE:

He's on hiatus but is going to now do 90 songs which is why "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and many others aren't there.

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Personally I’d be most interested in seeing a critics only list, with no industry insiders or artists. Even more critics than RS gathered, something really akin to the Sight and Sound polls.

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A lot of conspiracy theories here but in my opinion the list is so random in many ways that it seems completely apparent that they did indeed aggregate the votes. A curated list would be much more, well…curated. If they ask another 250 people to also contribute it might look wildly different (with o...

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Also, it is interesting how deaths, soundtracks, etc. play a role. I love “Radiation Vibe” - I was happy to see it on here! - but I doubt it would be if Adam Schlesinger hadn’t died. I don’t think this is a bad thing! Just an observation. That’s why it would be fun for them to do this like the Sight...

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One thing that’s kind of interesting about these types of things is when an artist’s most acclaimed song is not nearly a favorite of more invested fans. For example, most Jay-Z fans would not put “99 Problems” even close to the top of a list of their favorites (it’s a great song, just not that belo...

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One thing that’s kind of interesting about these types of things is when an artist’s most acclaimed song is not nearly a favorite of more invested fans. For example, most Jay-Z fans would not put “99 Problems” even close to the top of a list of their favorites (it’s a great song, just not that belov...

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Told you all "Fight the Power" would be on there.

Biggest surprise is "Get Your Freak On" in the top 10. Felt like, while a great song, that fell out of cultural relevancy a bit. Would expect it in the top 500, but not quite so high!

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You don't debate at all. You just want people to say you're right, even when you're wrong. Your obsession with 'facts' is only because you lack critical comprehension of art, so you demand everyone else speak in meaningless numbers. Numbers are never meaningless. What's meaningless is trying to wri...

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You brought us several points that should tell us not to take this upcoming RS list very seriously. If they are gonna screw with the actual vote results to try and pacify certain segments of their customers then it's pretty much worthless as any kind of measurement of anything. Cool. Then why be on...

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I wanted to write a short post, and then after forty minutes it had turned into the bible. You brought us several points that should tell us not to take this upcoming RS list very seriously. If they are gonna screw with the actual vote results to try and pacify certain segments of their customers t...

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I guess I think objectivity in this sense is a boring way to decide the “best” albums ever, and actually working through what moves people and touches their lives, is much more interesting. Without that type of critical assessment where there can be differences of opinion this site doesn’t really ex...

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By the way, that kid was me 25 years ago. If it hadn’t been for these lists I’d probably not be the music fan I am today.

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And what I’m really hoping is that a 13 year old kid out there, just discovering music finds a new cool list and it blows their mind. Maybe they’ll see stuff they already know, but maybe they’ll find some new stuff too that they don’t see everywhere else because it’s not just about popularity. Maybe...

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I feel like Hymie has a different idea than everyone else here about how these lists should be constructed, and there’s no changing his mind. For various reasons we disagree on what canonization should look like. Hymie, using your reasoning, Avatar is the greatest film of all time. Avengers: Endgame...

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In non-Hymie related conversation, but going back to predictions, here’s a random one:

Pavement will now have two songs: “Summer Babe” (which made the last list) and “Gold Soundz.”

Anyone listening to the 60 Songs That Explain the 90a podcast? Amazing.

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We're not talking about "random" citizens here. "Apples with apples" means if we could get an expert who lived through those times and an expert from now, the expert who lived through those times will have a much sharper understanding of what things were like then. A random citi...

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Maybe. Maybe not. Who has a better understanding of Roman politics and culture, an expert professor on the topic, or a random roman citizen who happened to live through it? Not such an obvious answer there... We're not talking about "random" citizens here. "Apples with apples" m...

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I'd be surprised if Purple Rain the song even came close. It topped Pitchfork's list, but it felt like an outlier and like Pitchfork being Pitchfork. I like the occasional bit of "blasphemy," but it's not necessarily indicative of a major re-appraisal. "A Day in the Life" topped...

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I really don’t mean that your blog and list doesn’t deserve respect by the way.

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I am wondering why several of you think that this will pass by "When Doves Cry" and be the highest ranking Prince record. It was only like #153 last time. I never liked this one much. It's monotonous and boring IMO, but I do like "When Doves Cry" a lot. They both rank on this si...

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Top 10 10. "Purple Rain" - Prince I am wondering why several of you think that this will pass by "When Doves Cry" and be the highest ranking Prince record. It was only like #153 last time. I never liked this one much. It's monotonous and boring IMO, but I do like "When Dove...

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kay, after giving it some thought, here are some more serious predictions. I'll rank the top 10 and then just throw some ideas out there about the rest. Top 10 1. "God Only Knows"- Beach Boys (no evidence for this beyond a feeling!) 2. "Respect" - Aretha Franklin (been thinking t...

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I take issue with naming any of the voters as "experts." Being a music critic or a record industry executive in no way makes you any kind of "expert" on music. Most critics are journalism majors who know little about actual music as far as notes, chords, time, etc.. go. Yeah I d...

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But it will be is an interesting snapshot of what’s considered the best at this moment by many experts. I take issue with naming any of the voters as "experts." Being a music critic or a record industry executive in no way makes you any kind of "expert" on music. Most critics ar...

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If they base the list strictly on the ballots submitted, it will be nothing more, nothing less, than a compilation of the favorite songs of the 300 or so voters. Well, I agree. That's it. And probably all of them will be from North America or the UK... Yes, and there's over 2 billion people in Chin...

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If I've been reading you correctly for 2 pages. This magazine, which I thought was totally despised by this forum for years, is going to make a Top 500 based not on the musical quality of the songs, but based on the gender, skin color, age and sales of the musicians ?????? Is it still interesting a...

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I'm going to guess just to guess. Percentage error +/- 100%. 2021 Rolling Stone Top 10 songs: 1. Aretha Franklin - Respect 2. The Beatles - A Day in the Life (like when Rolling Stone threw out the band's top 10 albums from 2003 and substituted Abbey Road) 3. Marvin Gaye - What's Going On (maybe too...

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If it’s all about sales then they’d just publish a list of best selling singles of all time.

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I would deviate downward regarding Prince and Michael Jackson. But in this matter, I have more confidence in you guess work than mine :-) I mostly doubt they would dare to give Jackson a top 10 position. He's still going to make the whole list and probably the top 100, but considering a lot of peop...

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You will see a great reduction of 1950s artists, just because they really have left the cultural consciousness. A lot of people who loved 50s music have died in the past 17 years, like Aretha Franklin and Lou Reed. But 50s music is still the favorite stuff of people like Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney...

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The list will be published in October, but maybe we have some advances in September. And by the way, many of the voters are under 30. Who said they're old? Not me. I said they're too young. You literally wrote, regarding “Smells Like Teen Spirit”: “I'd be surprised if it's even Top 50. Most of the ...

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jdizzle83, not sure if your post is sarcasm or serious. As to the voters, if we go by RS 500 Albums, majority are of the young side (Beyonce, Taylor, B. Eilish, C.R. Jepsen, Kesha, Saweetie, H.E.R., El-P, Hanson). I can see some older artists from the 60s and 70s like the Ronettes, Kiss, Alice Coop...

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The Greatest Books of all Time is also a pretty stagnant list. https://thegreatestbooks.org/ Yeah, you’re right - I mean, all races and types of stories are represented here, right? Why bother writing anything new at all? In regards to your clear ageism, I think music listeners under 35 enjoy a lot...

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Hymie makes a lot of good points. There haven’t been any good songs since 1969. Also, the same voters who put a Drake album in the top 100 will surely recognize that modern hip hop and pop don’t belong on the songs list - that’s just ignorant millennials. And best point of all? Even though “Smells L...

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I agree with a lot of what’s been said! Lots more diversity for sure, lot more hip hop for sure, and more modern songs represented. I don’t think “What’s Going On” will be number 1 song as well as album, but then again, that could be right. It has the appeal, obviously, of a number one that can unit...

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I saw something on Twitter that led me to believe that ballots for an updated RS 500 songs list went out in May. Seeing as how they did that last year with albums and then published a new top 500 albums list in late September, looks like an updated songs list is coming this Fall. The albums list cha...

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Spin is a completely different entity than it once was, owned by a larger conglomerate. None of the old writers, editors, etc. are there now and based on a lot of the websites current coverage the aesthetic (what gets canonized, celebrated, covered, etc.) has completely changed as well. It's only Sp...

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Sorry that message didn’t appear the way I thought it would. So just to be sure it doesn’t get lost! Henrik, not to be selfish but is there anyway that the updated list from Pitchfork of the best albums of the 1980s could be thrown into the new update? It would be awesome to see! But I get if you ca...

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quote=Henrik post_id=130576 time=1603282973 user_id=2] I mean seeing as how complex the program is I doubt I could make any predictions based on the lists themselves! I would like to see the lists of songs by genre, but I know all this could be more pressure for Henrik so I just want to be cool and ...

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Also seriously thank you so much for this site which has been like a bible for many years.

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Awesome!

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Hi,

Just curious if we know when the newest update to the site will be. Really curious how EOD lists and the new RS 500 will affect the aggregate list. Thanks!

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Also looks like folks are sharing their ages - I’m 37

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Top 100 Albums 1. Radiohead: Ok computer 2. Beach Boys: Pet sounds 3. Bruce Springsteen: Born to run 4. Marvin Gaye: What’s going on 5. The Beatles: Revolver 6. Radiohead: In Rainbows 7. Bob Dylan: Blonde on blonde 8. Radiohead: Kid a 9. The Beatles: Abbey road 10. The Beatles: White album 11. Led Z...

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You make some excellent points regarding the fact that because this isn’t a critics only poll you might see less indie or electronic music, genres that maybe don’t have the widest audience. Still would have been nice to at the very least have some more entry level “discovery” records like the first ...

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Thinking about it a bit more this morning, I still think there should be no compilations included, but now am thinking it would be cool to have a bonus list or something where they have collections from artists not typically considered album artists. This way you give some recognition to complicatio...

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