EOY 2020 Albums List Updates

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:49 am

Jackson · Post by **Jackson** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:08 am

Sault's rise is definitely the story of the EOY lists so far. Very interesting to see them come out of nowhere after I didn't sense much buzz when the first one came out this summer.

RTJ4 seems on track to end up as their most acclaimed album, which is surprising after they underperformed on EOD lists last year. The timing of the album's release against the racial injustice protests of this summer helped them as well as Sault.

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:31 am

Jackson wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:08 am Sault's rise is definitely the story of the EOY lists so far. Very interesting to see them come out of nowhere after I didn't sense much buzz when the first one came out this summer.

RTJ4 seems on track to end up as their most acclaimed album, which is surprising after they underperformed on EOD lists last year. The timing of the album's release against the racial injustice protests of this summer helped them as well as Sault.

It’s shocking to me that reviewers aren’t going their usual path of picking one album for Sault! More than once they’ve had both in the top 10, which just seems so much more celebratory than I would expect, regardless about what you think of them.

EGrignon · Post by **EGrignon** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:03 am

Holden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:49 am Also, a question: how should I handle Instrumentals by Adrianne Lenker? I've never seen it on its own in these lists, and whenever it is placed it's alongside Songs, so it lowers everything below it by one place. Should I combine them?

From what I understand, instrumentals is a companion piece to songs more than an album in its own right. In fact, it is impossible to buy a physical version of one without the other, it is always packaged as a double album outside of the streaming services. So I feel like it would make sense to count instrumentals and songs together as one single album.

Setherex · Post by **Setherex** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:08 am

I see no reason why they shouldn't be combined for the purpose of our tracking.

Post by **Henrik** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:14 am

SpankyRevolution wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:03 am
Holden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:49 am Also, a question: how should I handle Instrumentals by Adrianne Lenker? I've never seen it on its own in these lists, and whenever it is placed it's alongside Songs, so it lowers everything below it by one place. Should I combine them?
From what I understand, instrumentals is a companion piece to songs more than an album in its own right. In fact, it is impossible to buy a physical version of one without the other, it is always packaged as a double album outside of the streaming services. So I feel like it would make sense to count instrumentals and songs together as one single album.

So maybe they should be combined then. In any case, there’s no need to lower everything below it down, that’s to picky IMO.

Post by **Henrik** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:14 am

Thanks for this first update, Holden!!

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:07 pm

I've combined the songs and instrumentals. Also, Henrik, what should I do in the case of ties? For example, I don't think anyone would propose combining the two SAULT albums, but at least one list has put them in one place. What I've been doing is this:

Let's say that both SAULT albums are placed in Number 2. Here is an example list as presented by the source:
1 | Fetch the Bolt Cutters
2 | Untitled (Black Is) + Untitled (Rise)
3 | Rough and Rowdy Ways

What I have been doing is this:
1 | Fetch the Bolt Cutters
2.5 | Untitled (Black Is)
2.5 | Untitled (Rise)
4 | Rough and Rowdy Ways

Is this correct? Or how should I handle ties?

Post by **Henrik** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:18 pm

Holden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:07 pm I've combined the songs and instrumentals. Also, Henrik, what should I do in the case of ties? For example, I don't think anyone would propose combining the two SAULT albums, but at least one list has put them in one place. What I've been doing is this:

Let's say that both SAULT albums are placed in Number 2. Here is an example list as presented by the source:
1 | Fetch the Bolt Cutters
2 | Untitled (Black Is) + Untitled (Rise)
3 | Rough and Rowdy Ways

What I have been doing is this:
1 | Fetch the Bolt Cutters
2.5 | Untitled (Black Is)
2.5 | Untitled (Rise)
4 | Rough and Rowdy Ways

Is this correct? Or how should I handle ties?

In the past, I have myself done as you suggested. But it really doesn’t matter much for the ranking in the spreadsheet. What does matter, is that I will eventually use the spreadsheet data on the AM website, and then it will look like an error if Rough and Rowdy Ways is listed as number 4 instead of 3. So I say put both Sault albums as number 2. Ok?

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:21 pm

Henrik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:18 pm
Holden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:07 pm I've combined the songs and instrumentals. Also, Henrik, what should I do in the case of ties? For example, I don't think anyone would propose combining the two SAULT albums, but at least one list has put them in one place. What I've been doing is this:

Let's say that both SAULT albums are placed in Number 2. Here is an example list as presented by the source:
1 | Fetch the Bolt Cutters
2 | Untitled (Black Is) + Untitled (Rise)
3 | Rough and Rowdy Ways

What I have been doing is this:
1 | Fetch the Bolt Cutters
2.5 | Untitled (Black Is)
2.5 | Untitled (Rise)
4 | Rough and Rowdy Ways

Is this correct? Or how should I handle ties?
In the past, I have myself done as you suggested. But it really doesn’t matter much for the ranking in the spreadsheet. What does matter, is that I will eventually use the spreadsheet data on the AM website, and then it will look like an error if Rough and Rowdy Ways is listed as number 4 instead of 3. So I say put both Sault albums as number 2. Ok?

Gotcha, thanks!

fabrizioalbertini · Post by **fabrizioalbertini** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:49 pm

hope to see miss XCX rise up to at least the top 15, especially after her snub last year

Jackson · Post by **Jackson** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:03 pm

fabrizioalbertini wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:49 pm hope to see miss XCX rise up to at least the top 15, especially after her snub last year

Same here! Looks like she got a couple of new top ten placements since this was updated.

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:32 pm

I'm going to do updates every week (on Tuesday), but I'd like to mention that I've used two lists now that were not on last year's spreadsheet that appear to be eligible:
Rolling Stone (Mexico)
Preis der deutschen Schallplattenkritik (Germany)

I'm pretty sure Henrik said that Preis der deutschen Schallplattenkritik was eligible in another thread, and I don't see why RS Mexico wouldn't be, but I can just as easily remove them if there is an issue with them.

Post by **Henrik** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:24 pm

Go ahead and use them! Thanks!

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:40 pm

Henrik wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:24 pm Go ahead and use them! Thanks!

I see panam posted a list from RNZ music that may be eligible. Is that one indeed eligible?

Post by **Henrik** » Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:46 pm

Holden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:40 pm
Henrik wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:24 pm Go ahead and use them! Thanks!
I see panam posted a list from RNZ music that may be eligible. Is that one indeed eligible?

Yes!

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:21 pm

I’ll post an update tomorrow but for however much everyone thought FTBC was going to dominate the EOY lists, it is assuredly not doing that. It is near/at the top, but dominating it is not.

Jackson · Post by **Jackson** » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:00 pm

Holden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:21 pm I’ll post an update tomorrow but for however much everyone thought FTBC was going to dominate the EOY lists, it is assuredly not doing that. It is near/at the top, but dominating it is not.

If this is the case it's because Punisher and RTJ4 seem to be overperforming, not from FTBC underperforming. FTBC is high up on virtually every recently posted list. It leads by far Metacritic's roundup, which usually tracks ours pretty closely.

Donchano · Post by **Donchano** » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:14 pm

My prediction for Top 10 :

01. Fiona Apple - Fetch the Bolt Cutters
02. Run the Jewels - RTJ4
03. Phoebe Bridgers - Punisher
04. Bob Dylan - Rough and Rowdy Ways
05. Taylor Swift - folklore
06. SAULT - Untitled (Black Is)
07. Dua Lipa - Future Nostalgia
08. Perfume Genius - Set My Heart on Fire Immediately
09. Fontaines D.C. - A Hero's Death
10. Waxahatchee - Saint Cloud

Monte · Post by **Monte** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:58 am

Jackson wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:00 pm
Holden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:21 pm I’ll post an update tomorrow but for however much everyone thought FTBC was going to dominate the EOY lists, it is assuredly not doing that. It is near/at the top, but dominating it is not.
If this is the case it's because Punisher and RTJ4 seem to be overperforming, not from FTBC underperforming. FTBC is high up on virtually every recently posted list. It leads by far Metacritic's roundup, which usually tracks ours pretty closely.

lol overperforming.
She's just not dominating, not even the first few lists made it seem that way. I can't even remember her topping any lists so far, or maybe 1 or 2 (paste??). But my prediction was that she wasn't going to be in the top 5 after seeing the first lists (she probably will be)

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:48 pm

The Top 4 seem pretty set in stone as of right now, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dylan taken over by Dua Lipa/Taylor Swift. I would say Phoebe Bridgers is overperforming, at least compared to my expectations.

Jackson · Post by **Jackson** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:37 pm

Monte wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:58 am
Jackson wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:00 pm
Holden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:21 pm I’ll post an update tomorrow but for however much everyone thought FTBC was going to dominate the EOY lists, it is assuredly not doing that. It is near/at the top, but dominating it is not.
If this is the case it's because Punisher and RTJ4 seem to be overperforming, not from FTBC underperforming. FTBC is high up on virtually every recently posted list. It leads by far Metacritic's roundup, which usually tracks ours pretty closely.
lol overperforming.
She's just not dominating, not even the first few lists made it seem that way. I can't even remember her topping any lists so far, or maybe 1 or 2 (paste??). But my prediction was that she wasn't going to be in the top 5 after seeing the first lists (she probably will be)

According to the Metacritic link in my post (which uses fewer sources than we do here), FTBC is #1 on six lists so far. The next highest album has three #1's.

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:23 pm

Jackson · Post by **Jackson** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:23 pm

Thanks for the update, Holden. A few take-aways:

- I'm pleasantly surprised to see both Sault albums still doing well, with Black Is even rising a few spots in this update. I thought their placement on the initial list may have just been an outlier from a few lists, but it appears it will last. Can anyone think of another recent examples of albums with so few reviews upon release placing so high in the EOY spreadsheet? Usually when more initially obscure albums become acclaimed it's years after the fact
- The weirdest placement to me is Tame Impala at 17. That album was met with mediocre reception and seems like it came out eons ago. Name brand recognition appears to be a major factor in critics putting that ahead of many of the albums below it
- Glad to see Inner Song doing well after her debut in 2017 ended up as bubbling under on AM

acroamor · Post by **acroamor** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:52 pm

Jackson wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:23 pm - The weirdest placement to me is Tame Impala at 17. That album was met with mediocre reception and seems like it came out eons ago. Name brand recognition appears to be a major factor in critics putting that ahead of many of the albums below it

Somewhat related to this: does anyone else feel a weird disconnect to albums released in January and February of this year because of coronavirus? It's been such an all-consuming part of the year that anything released before it feels like it was in a different era entirely. I've had that feeling with the Tame Impala release, but also the new albums by Soccer Mommy, Caribou, Caroline Rose, U.S. Girls, Dan Deacon, Grimes, Destroyer, etc.

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:03 pm

Jackson wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:23 pm Thanks for the update, Holden. A few take-aways:

- I'm pleasantly surprised to see both Sault albums still doing well, with Black Is even rising a few spots in this update. I thought their placement on the initial list may have just been an outlier from a few lists, but it appears it will last. Can anyone think of another recent examples of albums with so few reviews upon release placing so high in the EOY spreadsheet? Usually when more initially obscure albums become acclaimed it's years after the fact
- The weirdest placement to me is Tame Impala at 17. That album was met with mediocre reception and seems like it came out eons ago. Name brand recognition appears to be a major factor in critics putting that ahead of many of the albums below it
- Glad to see Inner Song doing well after her debut in 2017 ended up as bubbling under on AM

A maybe important note here: I am also surprised by Slow Rush doing so good (I thought was just meh, definitely not as good as their prior too) but most of Tame Impalas acclaim is coming from outside the US and UK. Maybe that’ll change, I suspect it will fall, but interesting nonetheless

VacantJoy · Post by **VacantJoy** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:46 pm

good job holden

Edre Depeche Head · Post by **Edre Depeche Head** » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:47 pm

Holden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:03 pm
Jackson wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:23 pm Thanks for the update, Holden. A few take-aways:

- I'm pleasantly surprised to see both Sault albums still doing well, with Black Is even rising a few spots in this update. I thought their placement on the initial list may have just been an outlier from a few lists, but it appears it will last. Can anyone think of another recent examples of albums with so few reviews upon release placing so high in the EOY spreadsheet? Usually when more initially obscure albums become acclaimed it's years after the fact
- The weirdest placement to me is Tame Impala at 17. That album was met with mediocre reception and seems like it came out eons ago. Name brand recognition appears to be a major factor in critics putting that ahead of many of the albums below it
- Glad to see Inner Song doing well after her debut in 2017 ended up as bubbling under on AM
A maybe important note here: I am also surprised by Slow Rush doing so good (I thought was just meh, definitely not as good as their prior too) but most of Tame Impalas acclaim is coming from outside the US and UK. Maybe that’ll change, I suspect it will fall, but interesting nonetheless

Makes me wonder... how many album lists have been counted and how many more are expected (i guess compared to the average number of lists counter per year)

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:44 am

Donchano · Post by **Donchano** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:03 am

Sault truly is the biggest surprise of the year. They are coming out nowhere, the albums barely grabbed attention of critics, only a few reviews upon release yet here we are they are slaying EOY lists. When was the last time we saw this kind of surprise?

Anyway, once again Swift releases another widespread acclaimed album but too bad it is too late to make it into many EOY lists otherwise interesting to see her joins Sault and Lenker with double acclaimed albums in the ranking.

BleuPanda · Post by **BleuPanda** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:15 pm

Another thing that always hits me with the EOY lists is the hip hop albums - there are only five hip hop albums in the MCCH top 100, yet here we have Bad Bunny and Lil Uzi Vert in the top 30 for the year despite not being mentioned there. And looking at those 5 that are in the MCCH chart, they generally have less reviews than the major albums. It feels clear we've reached the point where critics feel the need to include a fair amount of hip hop in their end of year lists, but they don't lend the same respect throughout the year when they are doing reviews.

Because it's not like these albums got unimpressive reviews initially; the Bad Bunny album has an 88 on Metacritic, Lil Uzi Vert an 84. They just aren't getting enough reviews to land on anyone's radar, but then suddenly all these publications who didn't bother with initial reviews include them. But it feels like this happens every year; mainstream critics don't seem to touch hip hop reviews unless it's from a tentpole act like Kendrick or Danny Brown. Which is bizarre - Bad Bunny and Lil Uzi Vert are close to cultural giants at this point. If they don't feel equipped to write nuanced reviews of these albums, maybe they need to hire someone who specializes in the genre?

Edit: I should have looked further down than where I'm currently catching up with listening; there's also Jay Electronica and Flo Milli in the top 50 as far as ignored hip hop. And add in both Sault and Chloe x Halle, and this seems like a phenomena largely hitting black-dominated genres (though I spy at least one electronic album in the current top 50 I've never heard of until now, which has always felt in a similar boat with only the major established acts getting initial reviews).

nquoid · Post by **nquoid** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:43 pm

BleuPanda wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:15 pm Another thing that always hits me with the EOY lists is the hip hop albums - there are only five hip hop albums in the MCCH top 100, yet here we have Bad Bunny and Lil Uzi Vert in the top 30 for the year despite not being mentioned there. And looking at those 5 that are in the MCCH chart, they generally have less reviews than the major albums. It feels clear we've reached the point where critics feel the need to include a fair amount of hip hop in their end of year lists, but they don't lend the same respect throughout the year when they are doing reviews.

Because it's not like these albums got unimpressive reviews initially; the Bad Bunny album has an 88 on Metacritic, Lil Uzi Vert an 84. They just aren't getting enough reviews to land on anyone's radar, but then suddenly all these publications who didn't bother with initial reviews include them. But it feels like this happens every year; mainstream critics don't seem to touch hip hop reviews unless it's from a tentpole act like Kendrick or Danny Brown. Which is bizarre - Bad Bunny and Lil Uzi Vert are close to cultural giants at this point. If they don't feel equipped to write nuanced reviews of these albums, maybe they need to hire someone who specializes in the genre?

Edit: I should have looked further down than where I'm currently catching up with listening; there's also Jay Electronica and Flo Milli in the top 50 as far as ignored hip hop. And add in both Sault and Chloe x Halle, and this seems like a phenomena largely hitting black-dominated genres (though I spy at least one electronic album in the current top 50 I've never heard of until now, which has always felt in a similar boat with only the major established acts getting initial reviews).

Digging into the Bad Bunny album. Looking at who has featured it; no Rest of the World sources and only 1 UK source, who despite reviewing albums didn't review YHLQMDLG.

In the US though, every source that reviewed it is already featured in MCCH (apart from the New York Times). But then; Uproxx, Complex, NPR, Entertainment Weekly and Noisey don't really do reviews so wouldn't get picked up.

Seems like a mixture of the critics that could write these reviews aren't (probably because the readership isn't there) and then a lot of US focused popular hip-hop music isn't really translating when you get to the rest of the world.

But then something like Salut absolutely is playing international to critics circles, but is in a very similar boat when it comes to the lack of reviews...

charliepanayi · Post by **charliepanayi** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:15 pm

Sault have been talked up quite a bit in the UK in recent months especially as their music has chimed in with the protests of summer 2020, I think their anonymity (though apparently the people involved are listed on the discogs page)/reclusive nature is why their profile isn't bigger. The Mercury Prize really whiffed not giving Black Is a nomination, maybe they'll give Rise one next year though

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:38 pm

Arsalan · Post by **Arsalan** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:25 pm

Is Radio X's list ineligible? We have counted their EOD list before.

also what happend to The Forty-Five list? Is it eligible?

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:32 pm

Arsalan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:25 pm Is Radio X's list ineligible? We have counted their EOD list before.

also what happend to The Forty-Five list? Is it eligible?

The Forty-Five is not YET eligible but it may be if it’s Alexa rank improves, so I’m waiting on that one.

Radio X isn’t in my master list of last year’s sources, so I’ll have to look into that one. The EOD criteria is different than EOY, so if it’s eligible I’ll add it to the spreadsheet by next time.

Arsalan · Post by **Arsalan** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:53 pm

Holden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:32 pm
Arsalan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:25 pm Is Radio X's list ineligible? We have counted their EOD list before.

also what happend to The Forty-Five list? Is it eligible?
The Forty-Five is not YET eligible but it may be if it’s Alexa rank improves, so I’m waiting on that one.

Radio X isn’t in my master list of last year’s sources, so I’ll have to look into that one. The EOD criteria is different than EOY, so if it’s eligible I’ll add it to the spreadsheet by next time.

Okay, I just checked and Radio X is not an eligible source.

panam · Post by **panam** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:16 pm

Arsalan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:53 pm
Holden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:32 pm
Arsalan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:25 pm Is Radio X's list ineligible? We have counted their EOD list before.

also what happend to The Forty-Five list? Is it eligible?
The Forty-Five is not YET eligible but it may be if it’s Alexa rank improves, so I’m waiting on that one.

Radio X isn’t in my master list of last year’s sources, so I’ll have to look into that one. The EOD criteria is different than EOY, so if it’s eligible I’ll add it to the spreadsheet by next time.
Okay, I just checked and Radio X is not an eligible source.

I was looking for the Year was chosen but I didn't find it too.

Edre Depeche Head · Post by **Edre Depeche Head** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:06 am

Any major updates

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:16 am

Edre Peraza wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:06 am Any major updates

I’m doing them on Tuesday’s. You’ll get one tomorrow.

Edre Depeche Head · Post by **Edre Depeche Head** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:29 am

Holden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:16 am
Edre Peraza wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:06 am Any major updates
I’m doing them on Tuesday’s. You’ll get one tomorrow.

Ah okay

Holden · Post by **Holden** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:25 pm

charliepanayi · Post by **charliepanayi** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:36 pm

I find it amusing that the music media bangs on about how we need more protest music etc (and spent a year or two attacking Taylor Swift simply because she hadn't made any political statements at the time) and then they almost totally ignore Algiers/Drive By Truckers/Jeff Rosenstock this year - OK the latter is on the list but fairly low down. Algiers might have suffered for coming out all the way back in January.

acroamor · Post by **acroamor** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:02 am

Dogleg making the much-deserved sharp rise into the top 100 is what I was most excited to see about this update

Edre Depeche Head · Post by **Edre Depeche Head** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:54 am

charliepanayi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:36 pm I find it amusing that the music media bangs on about how we need more protest music etc (and spent a year or two attacking Taylor Swift simply because she hadn't made any political statements at the time) and then they almost totally ignore Algiers/Drive By Truckers/Jeff Rosenstock this year - OK the latter is on the list but fairly low down. Algiers might have suffered for coming out all the way back in January.

Even though I have a feeling you arent crazy about the new 1975 record, to me almost every song has strong political commentary and yet most critics failed to even bring that up and only talked about how weird it was that they experimented with different genres.

Sweepstakes Ron · Post by **Sweepstakes Ron** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:29 am

I know I'm kinda being deliberately provocative here, but I recall one publication claiming that "WAP" is apparently "revolutionary" because... they say the word "pussy" instead of a euphemism. So I feel like what they're looking for is not what typically comes to mind when we think of "political" music.

BleuPanda · Post by **BleuPanda** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:39 am

Both Fetch the Bolt Cutters and RTJ4 are heavily political and make up 2/3 of the current top 3, and the big surprise this year is the two Sault albums which are also rather political, so I don't understand the implication they're being hypocritical.

mileswide · Post by **mileswide** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:46 am

Not to mention Heaven to a Tortured Mind and grae if we're talking gender/sexual politics. And I haven't heard Ultra Mono but I can't imagine IDLES have toned down their campaigning lyrics.

I do agree though that the coverage in some media outlets of Swift's prior lack of partisan commentary was uncalled for, bordering on guilt by association just because a tiny alt-right minority of her multi-million-strong fan base made presumptions based on her physical attributes.

charliepanayi · Post by **charliepanayi** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:26 am

BleuPanda wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:39 am Both Fetch the Bolt Cutters and RTJ4 are heavily political and make up 2/3 of the current top 3, and the big surprise this year is the two Sault albums which are also rather political, so I don't understand the implication they're being hypocritical.

You're right of course, and I didn't mean to imply there was no topical/political acclaimed albums this year, I just mean the acts I mentioned could be forgiven for thinking 'hey, don't forget about us!'

Jackson · Post by **Jackson** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:41 pm

Holden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:25 pm 15 | 20 | Jessie Ware | What’s Your Pleasure?

Nice! Also a good update for under-the-radar rock acts like Jeff Rosenstock and Dogleg.