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"To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle."

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The American Healthcare Act/Ryancare/Trumpcare would not address the opioid problem in the U.S.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/8 ... 7983669248
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 800795.cms?

Terrorist attack failed in Belgium.
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There's no bruises or anything on the girl that was supposedly raped by two illegal immigrants. The defense attorney is saying the sex was consensual.

I have no idea what's going on. I should just calm down and let's see what happens. I am calming down.
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Trump might be trying to establish a police state. Support for the police was a key issue in his campaign.

Trump is an authoritarian strongman.
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Trump is using the term "fake media" to discredit all media. Hitler said "Lügenpresse".
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John Bresnahan:

"Trump will move on & leave Obamacare in place if he doesn't get AHCA vote, per Mulvaney"

https://twitter.com/BresPolitico/status ... 7558610944
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

"The German economy, like those of many other western nations, suffered the effects of the Great Depression with unemployment soaring around the Wall Street Crash of 1929.[1] When Hitler became Chancellor in 1933, he introduced policies aimed at improving the economy. The changes included privatization of state industries, autarky, and tariffs on imports. Wages increased by 10.9% in real terms during this period.[2] However, reduced foreign trade meant rationing in consumer goods like poultry, fruit, and clothing for many Germans.[3]

In 1934 Hjalmar Schacht, the Reich Minister of Economics, introduced the Mefo bills, allowing Germany to rearm without spending Reichsmarks but instead paying industry with Mefo bills (Government IOU's) which they could trade with each other.[4] Between 1933 and 1939 the total revenue amounted to 62 billion marks, whereas expenditure (at times comprising up to 60% rearmament costs) exceeded 101 billion, thus causing a huge deficit and national debt (reaching 38 billion marks in 1939 and coinciding with Kristallnacht [November 1938] and with intensified persecutions of Jews and the outbreak of World War II.)[5][6] By 1938 unemployment was practically extinct"
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Well, if this is just your way of venting about current news, then I am perfectly fine. This is actually kinda entertaining. As long as your health is good, PlasticRam.
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prosecutorgodot wrote:Well, if this is just your way of venting about current news, then I am perfectly fine. This is actually kinda entertaining. As long as your health is good, PlasticRam.
Sure. I mean when my entire world view has been turned upside down, it is kind of a big deal. I think now I'm seeing the reality.

It is still true for everyone that big things are happening RIGHT NOW. Trump and Ryan are trying to pass a new healthcare system that would have potentially disastrous consequences for America.
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I mean, I get that the US is the most powerful and influential country in the world, but I always think it's somewhat fascinating that people from different countries can take such a strong interest in our politics.

I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about current events but I could tell you nothing about the politics of Finland for instance.

As long as you're in good mental health, then I'm enjoying the updates, PlasticRam.
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Nick wrote:I mean, I get that the US is the most powerful and influential country in the world, but I always think it's somewhat fascinating that people from different countries can take such a strong interest in our politics.

I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about current events but I could tell you nothing about the politics of Finland for instance.

As long as you're in good mental health, then I'm enjoying the updates, PlasticRam.
I had an American girlfriend that was possibly an American spy and injected me with conservative propaganda. When Trump started his campaign, he brought on a lot of people that weren't interested in politics before.

I'm not making much sense and that spy theory sounds crazy, but for sure there are some American spies around the world. Think about it. The world has 200 countries. Let's say you have like five spies per country. That's only like 1000 people that are spies.

For example in Finland there's this theory that Russia is trying to influence the minds of the Finns. I thought at first it was complete hogwash, but now I think that might be true. But the good thing is it's failing. The Finns have possibly the most negative view about the Russians in the world. We haven't forgot WW2, where we fought against the Russians.


I mean Putin literally took Crimea. By making the people believe that they should be a part of Russia.
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What is this...
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I don't know. I think Trump might be just incompetent. And now that GOP have Senate, House and presidency, they're trying to push a kind of a radical agenda.

Edit: Or like maybe they're trying to push an agenda that doesn't fix the problems for average folks, cos that way they can keep being politicians and act like they're trying to solve the problems. Trump on the other hand, he's a complete wildcard. Trump card.
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It's crazy. Like 30% of the American people like the new proposed healthcare plan. I'm optimistic that it won't go through. But then what? Is there gonna be a new version? Maybe not. Maybe Trump will leave Obamacare in place, which would actually make his supporters angry and then he's in big trouble. Tough times for Trump.
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Trump might be just in over his head. Kind of like Ronald Reagan, although with Reagan it was more at the end of his presidency. The strength of Reagan is he hired competent people around him and let them make the decisions. Trump is doing that, but the problem is that the people he hired maybe aren't that competent.
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Perhaps Trump has a high IQ and he just never grew up to be an adult mentally. Like smart kids have high IQ, but they still play with toys and stuff.
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One difference between Hitler and Trump is Hitler failed at a lot of things in his life before becoming a leader, whereas Trump has had success (whether that's because of competence or luck is a different matter).
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Another interesting video by Adams. It is long though, 23 min, so maybe not worth watching.
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The reason hate crimes against Jews are up might be cos of Trump. Also hate crimes against Muslims are supposedly up.
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There are multiple sources that say Hitler's IQ was like 125. That might be where Trump is approximately.
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I still think is true that only Trump can protect gay rights in America in a way (and that's a screwed up situation). I believe he wants to leave them as is/increase them, but the old-school Republicans have a different idea, and that's who Trump has surrounded himself with.

Like Neil Gorsuch might be the scariest character in this aspect, as he has not been that good to gay rights historically.
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So frustrating that some other parts of online are mean. Thank you all for being nice to me.
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/845358714941046786

"BREAKING: House Republicans, short of votes, withdraw health care bill."

This is good news.
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This is a man that likes the kicks of saying to people "you're fired".
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They had 7 years to come up with a bill.

7 years.

And they failed.

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Nick wrote:They had 7 years to come up with a bill.

7 years.

And they failed.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
They don't wanna fix the problem. They just wanna complain and get to power and then be ineffectual politicians.
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Dudes, no one will be able to deny that Republicans failed BIG TIME today with Trumpcare/Ryancare. They even have control of the Senate and House, and couldn't replace-repeal. Hopefully their constituents realize that Republicans are just as broken as the Democrats. #JusticeDemocrats
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"NSA whistleblower: Trump right on wiretapping."

Big things going on right now. History is being made. We just have to wait for the facts to come out.

Apparently NSA has been surveilling American citizens ever since 9/11. That's the claim.

A lot of balls in the air.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 47426.html

"Donald Trump meets 30 men to discuss future of maternity care under new healthcare bill"

You can't make this stuff up :D :D :D
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This is a funny short video, which is a little old, but worth watching:
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PlasticRam wrote:This is a funny short video, which is a little old, but worth watching:
:mrgreen:
Not sure if you're aware, but it's a parody of the opening credits to the popular US show "The Office".

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0GXjAMnv1zs

Funny parody though!

EDIT: Nevermind, I misread the word "old" in your comment for the word "odd" which made me think you didn't recognize the source content. Now I feel somewhat foolish!
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PlasticRam wrote:Apparently NSA has been surveilling American citizens ever since 9/11. That's the claim.
Claim? It's fact. Look up Edward Snowden.
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No worries, Nick.
babydoll wrote:
PlasticRam wrote:Apparently NSA has been surveilling American citizens ever since 9/11. That's the claim.
Claim? It's fact. Look up Edward Snowden.
Oh yeah. That's very interesting.
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Dow is going down. They're predicting the tax cuts will fall through.
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Maybe a crazy person who's a serial liar has got into power.

Maybe Putin got his wish.

I just woke up from sleep. I am shaking again. I haven't done drugs. I have no idea what's going on.

Maybe Russian influence campaign worked and Trump is Putin's puppet. Useful idiot. For Russia to take over.
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I'm posting this video again cos I have a different interpretation:
1) Crazy
2) Serial liar
3) Honest. Knows something.
4) Master persuader
5) Weaken an enemy
6) Mistaken. DIdn't matter.

One or more of those is correct.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover

"Hoover easily won the Republican nomination, despite having no elected-office experience."
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I keep thinking people should go home to their loved ones. That's the safest place right now.

Something big is happening. But I don't know what it is.
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One thing is for sure and that is that Donald Trump is the most powerful man in the world right now.

What is his endgame? What is Putin's endgame?
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Hillary might've been just as bad as Trump. She has attacked rape victims. She ran a VERY anti-Russia campaign. Sorry if I push people's buttons with this comment, but I'm just trying to grasp what's going on. All I know is I don't know.
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PlasticRam wrote:She has attacked rape victims. She ran a VERY anti-Russia campaign.
First claim: ...Source? (other than Trump's fake news website brigade sycophants which I know you'll probably link, including his propaganda website Breitbrumpf managed by his own adviser, no conflicts of interest there, eh?)

Second claim: You mean anti-Putin? In which case, who cares?

Sorry that this is my first comment after hiatus, but I couldn't resist responding to cliche arguments about Clinton when the world is burning at the hands of Dorito Mussolini (before you accuse me of being a Clinton-shill: voted for Bernie in the primaries, Clinton in the general, so don't come at with that Wikileaks shit) :mrgreen:
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PlasticRam wrote:She has attacked rape victims. She ran a VERY anti-Russia campaign.
First claim: ...Source? (other than Trump's fake news website brigade sycophants which I know you'll probably link, including his propaganda website Breitbrumpf managed by his own adviser, no conflicts of interest there, eh?)

Second claim: You mean anti-Putin? In which case, who cares?

Sorry that this is my first comment after hiatus, but I couldn't resist responding to cliche arguments about Clinton when the world is burning at the hands of Dorito Mussolini (before you accuse me of being a Clinton-shill: voted for Bernie in the primaries, Clinton in the general, so don't come at with that Wikileaks shit) :mrgreen:
Yeah, you're right prolly. At the time of the election I thought she would maybe start WW3 against Russia, but of course 99.9% that's not the case. I mean her policy regarding Middle East was basically to fight everyone. She also liked the idea of toppling down foreign governments in an effort to make them democracies.

But you are prolly right. I am still in a somewhat fragile state, and I'm trying to find out what's real and what's not. All I know is humanity is the right answer, and that's what we all can agree on.

I agree that Bernie Sanders was prolly the best choice.
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Actually what might be happening is Putin is the bad guy. If Trump is Mussolini and Putin is Stalin, I mean that's a theory that might be correct. "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it."

So there's Trump, Putin, radical Islamic ideology. The three evils.

North Korea is another evil, but I wouldn't classify it as big as the other two or three.

In terms of what is a threat:

1) Putin
2) Trump
3) radical Islamic ideology, meaning people who wanna kill people. But of course every person who wants to kill a person is bad. So maybe it's not fair after all to single out this third option like this.
4) North Korea
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In case someone comes here and says radical Islamic ideology is not bad, it's well documented that ISIS kills people around the world weekly.

But maybe it's not that big of a problem after all. I'm still waking up from conservative propaganda.
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We can't alienate peaceful Muslims. Obama understood this. Trump prolly doesn't.
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There are underlying causes to radical islamic ideology, one being what happened on 9/11 and then the U.S. started a war in the Middle East and destabilized the Middle East. It's a chain of bad events.
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My brother said everything is fine and I'm just overreacting, so yeah I think that's true. People don't need to get worried, for the most part.

One hell of a week though.
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So I'll try not to say left-wing radical talking points and no right-wing radical talking points. My motto is "All I know is I don't know."
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