Top 100 greatest video games of all time (Jeuxvideo.com, France, 2017)

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Top 100 greatest video games of all time (Jeuxvideo.com, France, 2017)

Postby Pierre » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:42 pm

One of the two main French websites about videogaming, Jeuxvideo.com, just decided out of the blue to make their top 100 of the greatest video games of all time. It will unravel over the course of the next ten days. It is specified that sales were not a criterion used for the evaluation.

Here's the top, for your own enjoyment as well as mine. I'll update it as the games will be revealed.


#100 Lemmings | 1991
#99 Colin McRae Rally 2.0 | 2000
#98 Unreal Tournament | 1999
#97 Tetris | 1989
#96 Defense of the Ancients | 2002
#95 Duke Nukem 3D | 1996
#94 Dungeon Master | 1987
#93 Ultima VI: The False Prophet | 1990
#92 Ikaruga | 2003
#91 FIFA: Road to World Cup 98 | 1997
#90 Thief: The Dark Project | 1998
#89 Omikron: The Nomad Soul | 1999
#88 Flashback: The Quest for Identity | 1992
#87 The Legend of Zelda | 1986
#86 Populous | 1989
#85 Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 | 2000
#84 Another World/Out of This World | 1991
#83 System Shock 2 | 1999
#82 Left 4 Dead 2 | 2009
#81 Quake III Arena | 1999
#80 F-Zero GX | 2003
#79 Gran Turismo 2 | 1999
#78 Planescape: Torment | 1999
#77 No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.'s Way | 2002
#76 Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge | 1991
#75 Forza Horizon 3 | 2016
#74 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves | 2009
#73 Civilization II | 1996
#72 Pro Evolution Soccer 6/Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 | 2006
#71 Bloodborne | 2015
#70 Battlefield 2 | 2005
#69 Beyond Good & Evil | 2003
#68 Super Mario Bros. 3 | 1988
#67 Mega Man 2/Rockman 2 | 1988
#66 Myst | 1993
#65 Ōkami | 2007
#64 Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn | 2000
#63 Grim Fandango | 1998
#62 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare | 2007
#61 Super Smash Bros. Melee | 2001
#60 Max Payne | 2001
#59 SoulCalibur II | 2002
#58 Hitman: Blood Money | 2006
#57 Sonic the Hedgehog 2 | 1992
#56 Assassin's Creed II | 2009
#55 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time | 1998
#54 Secret of Mana | 1993
#53 Tomb Raider II | 1997
#52 Pokémon Gold and Silver | 1999
#51 Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver | 1999
#50 The Last of Us | 2013
#49 Doom | 1993
#48 Dead Space | 2008
#47 Dishonored | 2012
#46 Shenmue | 1999
#45 Donkey Kong Country | 1994
#44 Halo: Combat Evolved | 2001
#43 StarCraft | 1998
#42 Dark Souls | 2011
#41 Batman: Arkham City | 2011
#40 Portal 2 | 2011
#39 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night | 1997
#38 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas | 2004
#37 Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings | 1999
#36 God of War II: Divine Retribution | 2007
#35 Resident Evil | 1996
#34 Shadow of the Colossus | 2005
#33 BioShock | 2007
#32 Counter-Strike 1.6 | 2000
#31 WarCraft III: Reign of Chaos | 2002
#30 Minecraft | 2011
#29 Metal Gear Solid | 1998
#28 Metroid Prime | 2002
#27 God of War III | 2010
#26 Super Mario Kart | 1992
#25 Silent Hill 2 | 2001
#24 Super Metroid | 1994
#23 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim | 2011
#22 Super Marios Bros. | 1985
#21 Resident Evil 4 | 2005
#20 Mass Effect 2 | 2010
#19 Fallout 2 | 1998
#18 Diablo II | 2000
#17 The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker | 2002
#16 The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind | 2002
#15 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic | 2003
#14 Red Dead Redemption | 2010
#13 GoldenEye 007 | 1997
#12 Chrono Trigger | 1995
#11 Uncharted 4: A Thief's End | 2016
#10 Grand Theft Auto V | 2013
#9 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater | 2004
#8 Street Fighter II: The World Warrior | 1991
#7 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild | 2017
#6 Deus Ex | 2000
#5 Super Mario 64 | 1996
#4 World of WarCraft | 2004
#3 Final Fantasy VII | 1997
#2 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt | 2015
#1 Half-Life | 1998
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Re: Top 100 greatest video games of all time (Jeuxvideo.com, France, 2017)

Postby Nassim » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:08 pm

Ocarina of time #55, that's a surprise ! I guess they didn't want to have too many Nintendo on top but still.
Same for Super Mario 3 at #68.

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Re: Top 100 greatest video games of all time (Jeuxvideo.com, France, 2017)

Postby Pierre » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:57 am

Nassim wrote:Ocarina of time #55, that's a surprise ! I guess they didn't want to have too many Nintendo on top but still.
Same for Super Mario 3 at #68.


I find the rankings pretty oddball generally, although I guess nearly all the games mentioned would deserve to be in such a top. My own top 100 would probably look very different. Anyway, it at least manages to be surprising. I wouldn't dare to make any assumption of what the top 20 will look like. Except that at least one Final Fantasy game will obviously be in it, of course. In fact, given that multiple games from a single series can be included apparently, I'm surprised none has shown up yet.

I guess Street Fighter II is a lock as well, since it hasn't appeared yet.

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Re: Top 100 greatest video games of all time (Jeuxvideo.com, France, 2017)

Postby Pierre » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:17 am

If someone else was following this, know that it's complete!

Now time for some thoughts: personally, I find the list too recent games-oriented, but that's probably my tastes as someone who grew up with games that were generally a visual pixel gruel and managed to still find enjoyment in them. I'm puzzled by some rankings - I like Donkey Kong Country as much as the next guy, and find it a classics, but I believe many other platformers should rank ahead of it as I've always found the DKC gameplay to be a tad unpolished and raw. Also, the first game in the series is probably not the best (IMO, I played DKC2 and DKC3 more). I would put a shitload more point'n'click games in there (almost everything ever done by LucasArts, the Broken Sword series, The Longest Journey...) and more platformers, but that's my personal tastes speaking here (speaking of which, although Super Mario 64 is genius, I think the 2D platformers are greater games, but once again, perhaps that's only my tastes).

Also, no early era classics acknowledged. Donkey Kong? Pac-Man? Anyone?

Some game systems seem to be forgotten completely. What about the Neo Geo with Metal Slug or KOF or Blazing Star?

And if several entries in a series are allowed, why not more Final Fantasy games?

OK, I'm complaining too much. I'm pretty certain all the games featured would appear without shame in a decent list of the top video games of all time. Mine would just have been vastly different and more older-games oriented I suppose.

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Re: Top 100 greatest video games of all time (Jeuxvideo.com, France, 2017)

Postby Nel_Valen » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:29 pm

Pierre wrote:If someone else was following this, know that it's complete!

Now time for some thoughts: personally, I find the list too recent games-oriented, but that's probably my tastes as someone who grew up with games that were generally a visual pixel gruel and managed to still find enjoyment in them. I'm puzzled by some rankings - I like Donkey Kong Country as much as the next guy, and find it a classics, but I believe many other platformers should rank ahead of it as I've always found the DKC gameplay to be a tad unpolished and raw. Also, the first game in the series is probably not the best (IMO, I played DKC2 and DKC3 more). I would put a shitload more point'n'click games in there (almost everything ever done by LucasArts, the Broken Sword series, The Longest Journey...) and more platformers, but that's my personal tastes speaking here (speaking of which, although Super Mario 64 is genius, I think the 2D platformers are greater games, but once again, perhaps that's only my tastes).

Also, no early era classics acknowledged. Donkey Kong? Pac-Man? Anyone?

Some game systems seem to be forgotten completely. What about the Neo Geo with Metal Slug or KOF or Blazing Star?

And if several entries in a series are allowed, why not more Final Fantasy games?

OK, I'm complaining too much. I'm pretty certain all the games featured would appear without shame in a decent list of the top video games of all time. Mine would just have been vastly different and more older-games oriented I suppose.


I tend to agree, though when you're boiling down any medium--even a relatively new one like video games--to just 100 spots, there's gonna be a lot of disagreements and noteworthy omissions.

Seeing Breath of the Wild in the top 10 will surely drive some people crazy, and that's partly justified cause the game isn't even a year old yet. My problem with including newer games is that time really does test art, and something which might seem brilliant today may not have that same impact in a couple years. For example, in the case of BotW (a game I haven't even played yet) what if the market gets flooded with games that are similar but do everything much better? I really think we should give products at least 5 years before we start calling them an "all-time great".

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Re: Top 100 greatest video games of all time (Jeuxvideo.com, France, 2017)

Postby Pierre » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:15 pm

Nel_Valen wrote:
Pierre wrote:If someone else was following this, know that it's complete!

Now time for some thoughts: personally, I find the list too recent games-oriented, but that's probably my tastes as someone who grew up with games that were generally a visual pixel gruel and managed to still find enjoyment in them. I'm puzzled by some rankings - I like Donkey Kong Country as much as the next guy, and find it a classics, but I believe many other platformers should rank ahead of it as I've always found the DKC gameplay to be a tad unpolished and raw. Also, the first game in the series is probably not the best (IMO, I played DKC2 and DKC3 more). I would put a shitload more point'n'click games in there (almost everything ever done by LucasArts, the Broken Sword series, The Longest Journey...) and more platformers, but that's my personal tastes speaking here (speaking of which, although Super Mario 64 is genius, I think the 2D platformers are greater games, but once again, perhaps that's only my tastes).

Also, no early era classics acknowledged. Donkey Kong? Pac-Man? Anyone?

Some game systems seem to be forgotten completely. What about the Neo Geo with Metal Slug or KOF or Blazing Star?

And if several entries in a series are allowed, why not more Final Fantasy games?

OK, I'm complaining too much. I'm pretty certain all the games featured would appear without shame in a decent list of the top video games of all time. Mine would just have been vastly different and more older-games oriented I suppose.


I tend to agree, though when you're boiling down any medium--even a relatively new one like video games--to just 100 spots, there's gonna be a lot of disagreements and noteworthy omissions.

Seeing Breath of the Wild in the top 10 will surely drive some people crazy, and that's partly justified cause the game isn't even a year old yet. My problem with including newer games is that time really does test art, and something which might seem brilliant today may not have that same impact in a couple years. For example, in the case of BotW (a game I haven't even played yet) what if the market gets flooded with games that are similar but do everything much better? I really think we should give products at least 5 years before we start calling them an "all-time great".


Yeah, I don't mind recent games being present, but not at the expense of hyper-classics like more games from the Final Fantasy series or pioneers like Donkey Kong or Pac-Man. I mean, they're prehistoric by today's standards, but they're cultural milestones, and they're overall still pretty entertaining (the first Zork or Ultima games, although revolutionary, have aged badly though).

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Re: Top 100 greatest video games of all time (Jeuxvideo.com, France, 2017)

Postby Mulholland » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:44 pm

I wonder how much this list would have changed if they had waited until the end of this year considering all the high words being said of Mario Odyssey.

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Re: Top 100 greatest video games of all time (Jeuxvideo.com, France, 2017)

Postby Pierre » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:44 am

Mulholland wrote:I wonder how much this list would have changed if they had waited until the end of this year considering all the high words being said of Mario Odyssey.


They gave it a 19/20, so it would probably have ranked very high.


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