Films of the '70s: Results

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:03 pm

I was finally able to find some spare time this weekend, so we're off. The esteemed voters:
Greg
Romain
Gillingham
Petri
Harold
Antonius
Miguel
Henrik
Jirin
Michel
Moonbeam
Stephan

I've gotten rid of the haters section because it takes a lot of time I don't have, but otherwise the presentation is going to be pretty similar to the previous ones. As always, please let me know if you think I've made a mistake somewhere.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:18 pm

100. Carrie

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Director: Brian De Palma
Points: 709
Year rank: #7 of 1976
Voters: 10
Fans: Moonbeam (13)
Comment(s): I prefer the cheap knockoff Prom Night, but this will certainly do as wel. My #102 ever. (Moonbeam)

99. Performance

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Director: Nicolas Roeg
Points: 716
Year rank: #7 of 1970
Voters: 7
Fans: None
Comment(s):

98. Gimme Shelter

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Director: Albert Maysles / Davis Maysles / Charlotte Zwerin
Points: 724
Year rank: #8 of 1970
Voters: 8
Fans: None
Comment(s): Aaaand Jagger is out. Let's hope he does better in the upcoming songs poll. (Stephan)

97. Young Frankenstein

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Director: Mel Brooks
Points: 725
Year rank: #9 of 1974
Voters: 10
Fans: None
Comment(s): Now this is a riot! (Moonbeam)

96. Marathon Man

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Director: John Schlesinger
Points: 732
Year rank: #9 of 1976
Voters: 7
Fans: None
Comment(s):

Petri · Post by **Petri** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:10 pm

Great start Stephan. Young Frankenstein was last on my list. All the rest so far were also in my bottom quarter or at least bottom half (I didn't check).
Edit. I must add that all the finalists were good (maybe excluding the last one) and many were great or even masterpieces. Great decade indeed.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:52 pm

95. Patton

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Director: Franklin J. Schaffner
Points: 735
Year rank: #5 of 1970
Voters: 7
Fans: None
Comment(s):

94. The Man Who Would Be King

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Director: John Huston
Points:737
Year rank: #6 of 1975
Voters: 8
Fans: None
Comment(s):

93. Rocky

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Director: John G. Avildson
Points: 738
Year rank: #4 of 1976
Voters: 11
Fans: Henrik (#4)
Comment(s): As much as I like sports, I've never really cared much for sports movies. (Moonbeam)

92. American Graffiti

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Director: George Lucas
Points: 746
Year rank: #7 of 1973
Voters: 10
Fans: Moonbeam (#17), Greg (#22)
Comment(s): Interesting look at the darker side of glorified 50s life. (Moonbeam)

91. Picnic at Hanging Rock

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Director: Peter Weir
Points: 747
Year rank: #9 of 1975
Voters: 8
Fans: Petri (#19)
Comment(s):

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:51 pm

Petri wrote:Great start Stephan. Young Frankenstein was last on my list. All the rest so far were also in my bottom quarter or at least bottom half (I didn't check).
Edit. I must add that all the finalists were good (maybe excluding the last one) and many were great or even masterpieces. Great decade indeed.

Definitely agree with you. The field is very, very strong and Young Frankenstein is probably the weakest in the bunch.

Jirin · Post by **Jirin** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:11 am

I'm surprised Performance fared so badly. Good start.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:06 am

90. Invasion of the Body Snatchers

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Director: Philip Kaufman
Points: 747
Year rank: #9 of 1978
Voters: 5
Fans: None
Comment(s):

89. Halloween

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Director: John Carpenter
Points: 751
Year rank: #6 of 1978
Voters: 9
Fans: Moonbeam (#2)
Comment(s): The use of color, timing and lighting make this one of the best horror movies ever. My #5 all-time. (Moonbeam)

88. Woodstock

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Director: Michael Wadleigh
Points: 753
Year rank: #9 of 1970
Voters: 5
Fans: None
Comment(s):

87. Animal House

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Director: John Landis
Points: 753
Year rank: #7 of 1978
Voters: 6
Fans: None
Comment(s):

86. Duel

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Director: Steven Spielberg
Points: 760
Year rank: #5 of 1971
Voters: 4
Fans: Miguel (#8)
Comment(s):

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:42 pm

85. Padre Padrone

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Director: Paolo Taviani
Points: 762
Year rank: #8 of 1977
Voters: 4
Fans: None
Comment(s):

84. Viskningar och Rop [Cries and Whispers]

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Director: Ingmar Bergman
Points: 764
Year rank: #9 of 1972
Voters: 9
Fans: Jirin (#21), Gillingham (#25)
Comment(s): The starkness of Bergman 'shines' through in bright red in this film. (Gillingham)

83. Close Encounters of the Third Kind

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Director: Steven Spielberg
Points: 764
Year rank: #4 of 1977
Voters: 11
Fans: Moonbeam (#5), Miguel (#11), Harold (#24)
Comment(s): The little kid looks just like my brother when he was a kid. Obsession and cinematic wonder that only Spielberg can provide. Wonderful. My #34 ever. (Moonbeam)

82. Escape from Alcatraz

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Director: Donald Siegel
Points: 764
Year rank: #9 of 1979
Voters: 9
Fans: Miguel (#6), Henrik (#24)
Comment(s): It seemed to launch a new kind of evil face into cinema and remains scary to this day. My #64 ever. (Moonbeam)

81. The Texas Chain Saw Massacre

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Director: Tobe Hooper
Points: 768
Year rank: #10 of 1974
Voters: 8
Fans: Moonbeam (#11), Greg (#12)
Comment(s): The first yearly #10 to show up, reflecting that these films are often favorites by a few of the voters. (Stephan)

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:23 pm

80. Jeder für sich und Gott gegen alle [The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser]

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Director: Werner Herzog
Points: 769
Year rank: #5 of 1974
Voters: 7
Fans: Jirin (#19)
Comment(s): Based on the real life story of a man who was chained in his barn since boyhood, Kaspar Hauser makes us question the importance of what we consider civilized as we see it impose itself upon Kaspar. (Jirin)

79. Dawn of the Dead

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Director: George A. Romero
Points: 770
Year rank: #8 of 1978
Voters: 7
Fans: Moonbeam (#4)
Comment(s): That mall scene is one of the most memorable scenes for me of any movie. My #33 all-time. (Moonbeam)

78. Roma

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Director: Federico Fellini
Points: 772
Year rank: #10 of 1972
Voters: 4
Fans: None
Comment(s):

77. Killer of Sheep

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Director: Charles Burnett
Points: 776
Year rank: #9 of 1977
Voters: 3
Fans: None
Comment(s):

76. The Warriors

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Director: Walter Hill
Points: 780
Year rank: #10 of 1979
Voters: 4
Fans: Greg (#25)
Comment(s):

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:23 pm

75. Novecento [1900]

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Director: Bernardo Bertolucci
Points: 780
Year rank: #8 of 1976
Voters: 5
Fans: Petri (#16)
Comment(s):

74. Morta a Venezia [Death in Venice]

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Director: Luchino Visconti
Points: 782
Year rank: #10 of 1971
Voters: 8
Fans: antonius (#5)
Comment(s):

73. Höstsonaten [Autumn Sonata]

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Director: Ingmar Bergman
Points: 783
Year rank: #3 of 1978
Voters: 8
Fans: antonius (#23), Henrik (#25)
Comment(s):

72. Walkabout

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Director: Nicolas Roeg
Points: 784
Year rank: #8 of 1971
Voters: 6
Fans: Gillingham (#20)
Comment(s):

71. The Outlaw Josey Wales

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Director: Clint Eastwood
Points: 784
Year rank: #6 of 1976
Voters: 8
Fans: Miguel (#5)
Comment(s):

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:48 am

70. Being There

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Director: Hal Ashby
Points: 784
Year rank: #7 of 1979
Voters: 6
Fans: Henrik (#11)
Comment(s):

69. Le Boucher [The Butcher]

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Director: Claude Chabrol
Points: 790
Year rank: #10 of 1970
Voters: 6
Fans: Michel (#24)
Comment(s):

68. Дерсу Узала [Dersu Uzala]

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Director: Akira Kurosawa
Points: 790
Year rank: #5 of 1975
Voters: 9
Fans: Gillingham (#10), Miguel (#20)
Comment(s): Not very much like most other Kurosawa's. It suprised me, but I liked it a lot. (Gillingham)

67. Trafic

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Director: Jacques Tati
Points: 790
Year rank: #9 of 1971
Voters: 7
Fans: Romain (#10), Miguel (#20)
Comment(s):

66. Suspiria

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Director: Dario Argento
Points: 791
Year rank: #10 of 1977
Voters: 6
Fans: Greg (#10)
Comment(s):

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:49 am

65. Der Amerikanische Freund [The American Friend]

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Director: Wim Wenders
Points: 795
Year rank: #6 of 1977
Voters: 8
Fans: Gillingham (#16)
Comment(s):

64. The French Connection

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Director: William Friedkin
Points: 798
Year rank: #7 of 1971
Voters: 10
Fans: antonius (#18), Stephan (#19)
Comment(s):

63. Straw Dogs

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Director: Sam Peckinpah
Points: 799
Year rank: #6 of 1971
Voters: 8
Fans: Miguel (#7)
Comment(s):

62. Una Giornata Particolare [A Special Day]

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Director: Ettore Scola
Points: 801
Year rank: #7 of 1977
Voters: 6
Fans: antonius (#15)
Comment(s):

61. Five Easy Pieces

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Director: Bob Rafelson
Points: 802
Year rank: #2 of 1970
Voters: 9
Fans: Harold (#12), antonius (#13)
Comment(s):

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:36 pm

60. Ultimo Tango a Parigi [Last Tango in Paris]

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Director: Bernardo Bertolucci
Points: 802
Year rank: #6 of 1972
Voters: 9
Fans: Michel (#8)
Comment(s):

59. Angst Essen Seele Auf [Ali: Fear Eats The Soul]

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Director: Rainer Werner Fassbinder
Points: 807
Year rank: #7 of 1974
Voters: 8
Fans: Petri (#11), Greg (#23)
Comment(s): Definitely Fassbender's best I've seen so far. Still very topical of course. (Gillingham)

58. Nashville

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Director: Robert Altman
Points: 808
Year rank: #5 of 1977
Voters: 7
Fans: Harold (#9), Greg (#13)
Comment(s): This is called 'A portrait of America'. I see it as more of 'A portrait of a portrait of America'. The opinion of country culture held by people who view it from a distance. (Jirin)

57. Interiors

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Director: Woody Allen
Points: 808
Year rank: #10 of 1978
Voters: 7
Fans: Jirin (#11), Petri (#22), Romain (#24)
Comment(s): Woody Allen's most risky film, the first where he shows his perspective on culture without attempting to be funny. (Jirin)

56. The Front Page

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Director: Billy Wilder
Points: 808
Year rank: #8 of 1974
Voters: 4
Fans: Miguel (#4)
Comment(s):

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:36 pm

No discussions at all?

Post by **Henrik** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:50 pm

It looks to me as the movies so far are quite close scorewise, with a melting pot of well-known films which ended up at the bottom half of most voters' lists, and lesser known films that end up quite well with just one big fan ("The Front Page" for example). But with the exception of one voter*, each voter has most of his top ten films still in the game so it looks to me that the correlation between the ballots is pretty high.

*Moonbeam, who can not be too satisfied with the results, but probably isn't too surprised either...

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:32 pm

Some personal top 10s are starting to show up from here on in, including two of yours Henrik.

55. Life of Brian

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Director: Terry Jones
Points: 808
Year rank: #5 of 1979
Voters: 10
Fans: Romain (#12)
Comment(s):

54. Midnight Express

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Director: Alan Parker
Points: 808
Year rank: #4 of 1978
Voters: 7
Fans: Henrik (#9), Michel (#18), antonius (#25)
Comment(s):

53. Little Big Man

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Director: Arthur Penn
Points: 810
Year rank: #4 of 1970
Voters: 9
Fans: antonius (#16), Miguel (#16), Romain (#23)
Comment(s): Disappointing, because it's neither funny, nor interesting. (Gillingham)

52. All the President's Men

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Director: Alan J. Pakula
Points: 812
Year rank: #3 of 1976
Voters: 10
Fans: Henrik (#6), antonius (#19)
Comment(s):

51. Amarcord

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Director: Federico Fellini
Points: 814
Year rank: #10 of 1973
Voters: 7
Fans: antonius (#2)
Comment(s):

Post by **Henrik** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:00 pm

Yeah, I probably have one of the lowest correlations with the overall list.

Post by **Henrik** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:12 pm

It seems like without my vote, "Rocky" would be way behind at #100, which is a bit of a shame IMO. For as long as I can remember, I have associated the first Rocky film with Bruce Springsteen's early career (and vice versa too) and this association adds value to both the film and the albums.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:34 pm

50. La maman et la putain [The Mother and the Whore]

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Director: Jean Eustache
Points: 818
Year rank: #9 of 1973
Voters: 4
Fans: Jirin (#18), Michel (#20)
Comment(s):

49. O thiasos [The Travelling Players]

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Director: Theodoros Angelopoulos
Points: 818
Year rank: #10 of 1975
Voters: 2
Fans: Jirin (#6)
Comment(s): The longest film in competition, not surprisingly, also gets the smallest number of votes. (Stephan)

48. Nosferatu: Phantom der Nacht [Nosferatu the Vampyre]

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Director: Werner Herzog
Points: 819
Year rank: #8 of 1979
Voters: 6
Fans: Greg (#4)
Comment(s): The original is one of my favorite films ever. This one is pretty good, too, but the atmosphere isn't quite the same. (Moonbeam)

47. The Exorcist

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Director: William Friedkin
Points: 822
Year rank: #3 of 1973
Voters: 12
Fans: Moonbeam (#3), Stephan (#21), Miguel (#24), Greg (#15)
Comment(s): Profoundly scary and a deserving classic. My #27 ever. (Moonbeam)
The first of 9 films to receive votes from every voter. (Stephan)

46. Le Charme Discret de la Bourgeoisie [The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie]

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Director: Luis Buñuel
Points: 824
Year rank: #8 of 1972
Voters: 9
Fans: Harold (#19), Michel (#19), Henrik (#21), Romain (#22), Jirin (#22)
Comment(s):

Moonbeam · Post by **Moonbeam** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:34 am

Great job, Stephan! Some of the comments aren't mine, though!

I noticed that my Texas Chainsaw Massacre comment was listed after Escape from Alcatraz, and I've never seen Nashville or Interiors!

I don't mind seeing my favorites fall early. I'm a bit of a horror fanatic but I understand that many others aren't.

I'm sorry I haven't commented earlier - I'm busy trying to finish my song list before the deadline!

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:59 am

45. Kramer vs. Kramer

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Director: Robert Benton
Points: 827
Year rank: #6 of 1979
Voters: 7
Fans: Henrik (#12), Romain (#21), Gillingham (#22)
Comment(s):

44. La nuit américaine [Day for Night]

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Director: François Truffaut
Points: 832
Year rank: #8 of 1973
Voters: 7
Fans: Miguel (#9)
Comment(s):

43. Monsieur Klein

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Director: Joseph Losey
Points: 837
Year rank: #10 of 1976
Voters: 3
Fans: Miguel (#18), Romain (#18)
Comment(s): The highest-placed #10 of a year. (Stephan)

42. Stroszek

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Director: Werner Herzog
Points: 837
Year rank: #5 of 1977
Voters: 6
Fans: Greg (#9), Jirin (#15)
Comment(s):

41. Le locataire [The Tenant]

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Director: Roman Polanski
Points: 842
Year rank: #5 of 1976
Voters: 6
Fans: Romain (#15), Michel (#22)
Comment(s):

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:01 am

Moonbeam wrote:Great job, Stephan! Some of the comments aren't mine, though!

Oops, edited!

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:32 am

40. Le cercle rouge [The Red Circle]

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Director: Jean-Pierre Melville
Points: 844
Year rank: #6 of 1970
Voters: 6
Fans: Romain (#13), Stephan (#17)
Comment(s):

39. The Last Waltz

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Director: Martin Scorsese
Points: 852
Year rank: #5 of 1978
Voters: 5
Fans: Greg (#8), Stephan (#14)
Comment(s): Surprisingly few votes on a music board for this most music oriented film of the bunch. (Stephan)

38. The Last Picture Show

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Director: Peter Bogdanovich
Points: 854
Year rank: #3 of 1971
Voters: 9
Fans: Harold (#11), antonius (#17), Petri (#18), Henrik (#20), Greg (#21)
Comment(s):

37. MASH [M*A*S*H]

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Director: Robert Altman
Points: 854
Year rank: #1 of 1970
Voters: 9
Fans: Romain (#16), Greg (#17), Petri (#17), Harold (#23)
Comment(s): The first yearly #1 shows up, earlier than ever before. (Stephan)

36. Zerkalo [The Mirror]

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Director: Andrei Tarkovsky
Points: 854
Year rank: #8 of 1975
Voters: 6
Fans: Jirin (#2), Gillingham (#14), Michel (#25)
Comment(s): Stories are not so important. Just let it come to you like it does. (Gillingham)
Legend has it that after showing this film, Tarkovsky then asked the audience what they thought. Most of them seemed confused by it, then a ten year old girl said 'The film is about a man on his deathbed, remembering his life and letting himself off the hook for the mistakes he made'. To which Tarkovsky replied, 'I have nothing to add to that'. That sums up Tarkovsky: His films are deceptively simple to read, just don't decide how to read them before you see them. (Jirin)

Post by **Henrik** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:51 am

"Stories are not so important." (Gillingham)

Well, for me it just doesn't work that way and I put The Mirror at the very end of my list. You will see that I'm a fan of Stalker though.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:55 pm

The same goes for me Henrik. I haven't seen The Mirror, but we both put Solaris pretty much at the bottom of our lists whiele Stalker made both of our top 10s.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:55 pm

35. Network

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Director: Sidney Lumet
Points: 855
Year rank: #2 of 1976
Voters: 10
Fans: Petri (#7), Henrik (#8)
Comment(s):

34. Scener ur ett Äktenskap [Scenes from a Marriage]

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Director: Ingmar Bergman
Points: 859
Year rank: #6 of 1973
Voters: 9
Fans: antonius (#14), Gillingham (#15), Henrik (#15), Jirin (#17)
Comment(s): Some marriages really seem to be like the one portrayed here. Lovers can be nasty to each other. (Gillingham)

33. Il conformista [The Conformist]

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Director: Bernardo Bertolucci
Points: 861
Year rank: #3 of 1970
Voters: 9
Fans: Gillingham (#13), Petri (#13), Harold (#14), Michel (#21)
Comment(s): And that's the last 1970 film in the bunch. Consensus worst year of the decade?

32. Don't Look Now

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Director: Nicolas Roeg
Points: 864
Year rank: #4 of 1973
Voters: Petri (#5),Gillingham (#9), Jirin (#20)
Fans:
Comment(s): One of my favorite horror films. And like the rest of them, it's more about psychological horror than about physical horror. (Gillingham)

31. Harold and Maude

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Director: Hal Ashby
Points: 865
Year rank: #4 of 1971
Voters: 9
Fans: Henrik (#3), Romain (#9)
Comment(s): Peculiar little film, but the chemistry between the two main characters works well enough. (Gillingham)

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:44 pm

Great job with the results! I notice an error - I didn't have Don't Look Now at #9. (My #9 was Nashville, which was correctly noted earlier.)

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:31 pm

Harold wrote:Great job with the results! I notice an error - I didn't have Don't Look Now at #9. (My #9 was Nashville, which was correctly noted earlier.)

Ah, no, that was Gillingham.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:31 pm

30. Solyaris [Solaris]

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Director: Andrei Tarkovsky
Points: 868
Year rank: #2 of 1972
Voters: 9
Fans: Greg (#3), Gillingham (#5), Petri (#20), Jirin (#24)
Comment(s): It takes some time for this film to take off, but when it does, it does so very rewardingly. (Gillingham)

29. Deliverance

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Director: John Boorman
Points: 870
Year rank: #5 of 1972
Voters: 10
Fans: Moonbeam (#9), antonius (#11), Michel (#12), Petri (#25)
Comment(s): You wouldn't necessarily expect it at the beginning of the film, but this one is actually very eerie all through. In a good way though. (Gillingham)
This might just be my favorite "don't go to uninhabited places" movie. #49 all-time. (Moonbeam)

28. Badlands

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Director: Terrence Malick
Points: 871
Year rank: #2 of 1973
Voters: 11
Fans: Gillingham (#4), Jirin (#13)
Comment(s): Only an incredibly gifted director like Malick can make a debut like this. (Gillingham)

27. McCabe & Mrs. Miller

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Director: Robert Altman
Points: 885
Year rank: #2 of 1971
Voters: 10
Fans: Greg (#6), Harold (#8), Stephan (#15)
Comment(s):

26. Jaws

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Director: Steven Spielberg
Points: 889
Year rank: #4 of 1975
Voters: 12
Fans: Moonbeam (#1), Henrik (#7), Miguel (#13), Stephan (#24), Romain (#25)
Comment(s): The first personal #1 to show up, much later than in previous decades. (Stephan)
A promising beginning turns to sensationalism in the final sequence. (Jirin)
To this day, I'm terrified of going in the ocean because of this film. My #4 film ever. (Moonbeam)

Moonbeam · Post by **Moonbeam** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:55 pm

What's great about these polls is that they will give me lots of films to watch. I haven't seen most of these!

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:59 pm

25. Sleuth

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Director: Joseph L. Mankiewicz
Points: 890
Year rank: #7 of 1972
Voters:
Fans: Miguel (#1), Michel (#3), Stephan (#16)
Comment(s):

24. Star Wars

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Director: George Lucas
Points: 892
Year rank: #2 of 1977
Voters: 12
Fans: Henrik (#5), Stephan (#8), Miguel (#10), Jirin (#12), Harold (#17)
Comment(s): If Han shot first, #12. Greedo, somewhere near the bottom. (Jirin)
The most overrated film of all-time. I'll never understand the appeal, nerdy as I am. (Moonbeam)

23. Dog Day Afternoon

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Director: Sidney Lumet
Points: 893
Year rank: #3 of 1975
Voters: 10
Fans: Harold (#10), Gillingham (#11), Petri (#14), Miguel (#22), Stephan (#23)
Comment(s):

22. A Woman Under the Influence

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Director: John Cassavetes
Points: 893
Year rank: #6 of 1974
Voters: 8
Fans: Jirin (#7), Stephan (#12), Michel (23), Harold (#25)
Comment(s): Well acted, but maybe just a tiny bit too pretentious. (Gillingham)
The most beautiful moment of the film is the moment where the children realize the effect their faster is having on their mother and try hard to push him away from her. (Jirin)

21. Mean Streets

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Director: Martin Scorsese
Points: 893
Year rank: #5 of 1973
Voters: Harold (#3), Gillingham (#12), Greg (#16), Romain (#17)
Fans:
Comment(s): The first typical Scorsese film. Unlike most people, it's my favorite of his. (Gillingham)

Moonbeam · Post by **Moonbeam** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:38 am

Star Wars. Ugh.

Jirin · Post by **Jirin** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:57 am

If you think The Mirror has no story you're not watching it right.

It does bother me when people who are used to only narrative films watch non-narrative films and complain there's no story and therefore the movie is worthless. That strikes me as Rex Reed style trashing.

Just because a movie does not speak it's story out through you through a linear structured narrative does not mean the story does not exist, the characters are not emotionally compelling or that the ideas the story conveys are not poignant. Free your mind!

I also think the word 'Pretentious' falls under the category of dime-store criticism. It's like saying "I don't know how to criticize the film so instead I'll attack the motives of the filmmaker."

Post by **Henrik** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:09 am

Jirin wrote:If you think The Mirror has no story you're not watching it right.

It does bother me when people who are used to only narrative films watch non-narrative films and complain there's no story and therefore the movie is worthless. That strikes me as Rex Reed style trashing.

Just because a movie does not speak it's story out through you through a linear structured narrative does not mean the story does not exist, the characters are not emotionally compelling or that the ideas the story conveys are not poignant. Free your mind!

I also think the word 'Pretentious' falls under the category of dime-store criticism. It's like saying "I don't know how to criticize the film so instead I'll attack the motives of the filmmaker."

Jirin, sometimes I think you are too smart for your own good, but I'm glad it works out for you here. No pun intended!

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:34 am

20. The Conversation

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Director: Francis Ford Coppola
Points: 895
Year rank: #4 of 1974
Voters: 11
Fans: Harold (#16), Miguel (#17), Henrik (#18), Romain (#20), antonius (#22), Gillingham (#24)
Comment(s): 1 Coppola down, 3 to go. (Stephan)

19. Eraserhead

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Director: David Lynch
Points: 904
Year rank: #3 of 1977
Voters: 11
Fans: Petri (#1), antonius (#3), Jirin (#5), Moonbeam (#12)
Comment(s): Starting off with a creepy distorted vision of family life, Eraserhead shows us a dream-like perspective of a man who follows his sexual desires and sees himself getting trapped into the path set out for him. (Jirin)
Beautifully bizarre, this movie has major feel. My #76 ever. (Moonbeam)

18. The Sting

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Director: George Roy Hill
Points: 907
Year rank: #1 of 1973
Voters: Henrik (#1), Miguel (#3), Petri (#21), Gillingham (#23)
Fans:
Comment(s): Very enjoyable movie. My favorite collaboration of Hill, Redford and Newman. (Gillingham)
For some reason this one never got into my system much. (Moonbeam)

17. Cabaret

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Director: Bob Fosse
Points: 911
Year rank: #4 of 1972
Voters: 10
Fans: antonius (#1), Moonbeam (#8), Petri (#12), Henrik (#13), Harold (#20)
Comment(s): Just recently saw this and was amazed even more by the way the performances mimic the coming oppression than the storyline, which is excellent by itself. My #45 ever. (Moonbeam)

16. Aguirre, the Wrath of God

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Director: Werner Herzog
Points: 929
Year rank: #3 of 1972
Voters: Greg (#1), Petri (#3), Stephan (#20), Jirin (#23)
Fans:
Comment(s): Herzog says that he likes filming 'Virgin images', and in this film uses the unforgiving medieval-era South American jungle to show the stupidity of Western entitlement in what the audience can immediately see is a doomed voyage. (Jirin)

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:25 pm

15. Days of Heaven

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Director: Terrence Malick
Points: 935
Year rank: #2 of 1978
Voters: Jirin (#4), Petri (#6), Greg (#11), Gillingham (#18), Harold (#21)
Fans:
Comment(s): Beautifully shot. But possibly the only Malick that isn't much more than just that. (Gillingham)

14. Manhattan

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Director: Woody Allen
Points: 949
Year rank: #4 of 1979
Voters: 10
Fans: Romain (#7), Michel (#7), Jirin (#10), Greg (#19), Henrik (#22), Stephan (#25)
Comment(s):

13. Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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Director: Terry Gilliam / Terry Jones
Points: 953
Year rank: #3 of 1974
Voters: 11
Fans: Romain (#1), Stephan (#9), Petri (#10), Michel (#15), Jirin (#16), Miguel (#25)
Comment(s): The humor doesn't hold up that wel after a couple of viewings, but I definitely laughed out a lot the first time I saw this. (Gillingham)
Quote me a line from this film, I'll continue it. (Jirin)
It's good, silly fun but there are other comedies I far prefer. (Moonbeam)

12. Barry Lyndon

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Director: Stanley Kubrick
Points: 960
Year rank: #2 of 1975
Voters: Harold (#4), Romain (#8), Gillingham (#8), Miguel (#14), Michel (#14), antonius (#24)
Fans:
Comment(s): It's an eternal pity Kubrick decided not to make his grand Napoleon film, but this is a very good substitute anyway. (Gillingham)

11. Annie Hall

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Director: Woody Allen
Points: 963
Year rank: #1 of 1977
Voters: 11
Fans: Harold (#13), Michel (#13), Henrik (#14), Jirin (#14), Romain (#14), Gillingham (#21), Stephan (#22), Miguel (#23), Greg (#24)
Comment(s):

Gillingham · Post by **Gillingham** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:08 pm

Jirin wrote:If you think The Mirror has no story you're not watching it right.

It does bother me when people who are used to only narrative films watch non-narrative films and complain there's no story and therefore the movie is worthless. That strikes me as Rex Reed style trashing.

Just because a movie does not speak it's story out through you through a linear structured narrative does not mean the story does not exist, the characters are not emotionally compelling or that the ideas the story conveys are not poignant. Free your mind!

I also think the word 'Pretentious' falls under the category of dime-store criticism. It's like saying "I don't know how to criticize the film so instead I'll attack the motives of the filmmaker."

Guess this was directed at me, at least for a bit. Even if both films (Zerkalo and A Woman under the Influence) were well in my top half

First, I would like you to know that I think that very many films are too much focused on story-telling and 'pretentiousness' (I don't like that word in criticism either, to be honest) isn't a bad thing at all in my book, to the contrary. Maybe that changes your intepretation of my comments a little bit.

To me, images are more important that stories in films. After watching quite some films in a relatively short time a couple of years ago, I found that it's the images that keep me interested, not the stories per se.

Anyway, although there haven't been a lot of surprises yet, I like the unfolding of this list. I will keep a closer track from now on.

Gillingham · Post by **Gillingham** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:11 pm

Days of Heaven at #15 is quite a nice surprise, actually. I also like the fact that Eraserhead did well, because it's such an exceptional film.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:52 pm

I'm afraid that if i wasn't for me Eraserhead would have been even higher; I didn't like it at all. I'll have to watch it again though.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:53 pm

Most of the covers of the top 10 films are rather beautiful, so they'll be a little more prominent, and I've also added a critic quote again to liven things up a little.

10. The Deer Hunter

Director: Michael Cimino
Points: 1009
Year rank: #1 of 1978
Voters: 11
Fans: Stephan (#3), antonius (#8), Petri (#9), Michel (#11), Greg (#14), Henrik (#16), Gillingham (#17)
Comment(s): Deer Hunter spoils itself by focusing too much on russian roulette as a gimmick. (Jirin)

Critic: This excruciatingly violent, three-hour Viet Nam saga demolishes the moral and ideological cliches of an era: it shoves the audience into hell and leaves it stranded without a map. (Time Magazine)

9. Сталкер [Stalker]

Director: Andrei Tarkovsky
Points: 1010
Year rank: #3 of 1979
Voters: 11
Fans: Greg (#2), Gillingham (#2), Jirin (#3), Henrik (#10), Stephan (#10), Michel (#17)
Comment(s): Possibly has the best cinematography of any film. (Gillingham)
The great thing about Stalker is that where most science fiction would go out of its way to explain everything ahead of time, Stalker puts us in the same perspective as Writer and Professor: It's all a mystery to us and we have only the stalker's word to understand anything. (Jirin)

Critic: There is no easy watching to be gained here, but nor is this a hard slog -- each scene is beautifully crafted, painting a vivid and fascinating picture of Tarkovsky's vision. (Amber Wilkinson)

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:29 am

8. Chinatown

Director: Roman Polanski
Points: 1010
Year rank: #1 of 1974
Voters: 11
Fans: Harold (#6), Stephan (#7), Jirin (#8), antonius (#9), Michel (#10), Greg (#18)
Comment(s): A 70's take on 30's noir with a bummer ending Polanski had to fight the writer to get, an ending that replaces the mythology of the genre with Polanski's cynical take on the reality of the era, and vaults the film into all time greatness. (Jirin)

Critic: A landmark blend of acting, directing, structure and design. Chinatown is the greatest detective movie ever made. (Chris Laverty)

7. Alien

Director: Ridley Scott
Points: 1013
Year rank: #2 of 1979
Voters: 12
Fans: Romain (#5), Moonbeam (#6), Gillingham (#6), Miguel (#12), Stephan (#13), Michel (#16), Greg (#20), antonius (#20), Henrik (#23)
Comment(s): It's all about the atmosphere. The famous chestburster scene made lasting impression one me. (Gillingham)
I prefer the sequel, but this is wonderfully tense and original. My #35 ever. (Moonbeam)

Critic: An old-fashioned scary movie set in a highly realistic sci-fi future, made all the more believable by expert technical craftmanship. (Variety)

Moonbeam · Post by **Moonbeam** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:00 pm

Hooray for Alien! What a great film and well worthy of a top 10 placement here. As my comment indicates, though, it's all about Aliens for me.

Petri · Post by **Petri** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:37 pm

Glad to see Eraserhead, Days of Heaven and Aguirre in top 20. Great presentation Stephan! It's also great to read comments. So thanks for Moonbeam, Gillingham and Jirin. Looking forward to see the order of top 6.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:57 pm

6. A Clockwork Orange

Director: Stanley Kubrick
Points: 1071
Year rank: #1 of 1971
Voters: 12
Fans: Miguel (#2), Romain (#6), antonius (#7), Michel (#9), Stephan (#11), Moonbeam (#14), Petri (#15), Harold (#15), Gillingham (#19), Henrik (#19)
Comment(s): Just like in the '80s, Kubrick strands at #6. (Stephan)
I feel that I need to watch this again. I loved it, but I'm not as big of a fan as many others. My #148 ever. (Moonbeam)

Critic: A merciless, demoniac satire in the future imperfect. (Time Magazine)

5. Taxi Driver

Director: Martin Scorsese
Points: 1081
Year rank: #1 of 1976
Voters: 11
Fans: Jirin (#1), Michel (#2), Harold (#5), Stephan (#6), Greg (#7), antonius (#12), Romain (#19)
Comment(s):

Critic: Martin Scorsese's history-making scald is truly a phenomenon from another day and age. Which is to say, imagine a like-minded film of this decade killing at the box office and getting nommed for Best Picture. (Michael Atkinson)

Gillingham · Post by **Gillingham** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:51 pm

Three Coppolas in de top four.

Romain · Post by **Romain** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:02 pm

Stalker in 9 is, by far, the most surprised thing in this poll.

It's not the type of movies this forum usually appreciates.

Good to see that.

The rest of the ranking is perfectly predictable with the initial list.

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:58 pm

4. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Director: Miloš Forman
Points: 1096
Year rank: #1 of 1975
Voters: 12
Fans: Henrik (#2), Romain (#4), Petri (#4), Stephan (#4), antonius (#6), Michel (#6), Moonbeam (#7), Harold (#22)
Comment(s): The creeping terror that builds ever so slowly make this a real winner. My #40 ever. (Moonbeam)
Yes, that means the top 3 is entirely Coppola's. (Stephan)

Critic: The genius of the film is that you never feel you're being preached at, but rather being allowed a fly-on-the-wall view of a systematic crushing of humanity. (Cole Smithey)

3. The Godfather, Part II

Director: Francis Ford Coppola
Points: 1104
Year rank: #2 of 1974
Voters: 12
Fans: Stephan (#2), Harold (#2), Romain (#3), Gillingham (#3), Michel (#4), Petri (#8), Petri (#8), Miguel (#15)
Comment(s): The duality and similarity of senior and junior Corleone is perfectly realised. It took a De Niro and a Pacino to make it work that well. (Gillingham)
This film and its predecessor made me feel that I don't like gangster movies much. (Moonbeam)

Critic: This film has an even broader scope than the original, but does not fail in its depiction of small, intimate moments and surprising emotional reveals. (Jeffrey M. Anderson)

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:46 am

2. The Godfather

Director: Francis Ford Coppola
Points: 1131
Year rank: #1 of 1972
Voters: 12
Fans: Harold (#1), Stephan (#1), Romain (#2), Michel (#5), Gillingham (#7), antonius (#10), Henrik (#17), Miguel (#21), Moonbeam (#22), Petri (#23), Jirin (#25)
Comment(s): As great a film Godfather is, I don't understand the superlative status it has as one of the greatest films of all time. The acting is fantastic, but the story is just a gangster melodrama. (Jirin)
I've never really cared for this. (Moonbeam)

Critic: There are volumes that could be written--and have been--about the movie's uniformly powerful performances; its precedent-setting editing by William Reynolds and Peter Zinner; Nino Rota's haunting score; and Dean Tavoularis's evocative set design. (Desson Thomson)

1. Apocalypse Now

Director: Francis Ford Coppola
Points: 1243
Year rank: #1 of 1979
Voters: 12
Fans: Gillingham (#1), Michel (#1), Petri (#2), antonius (#4), Greg (#5), Stephan (#5), Harold (#7), Jirin (#9), Moonbeam (#10), Romain (#11), Miguel (#19)
Comment(s): The madness, the beauty, the surrealism, the darkness, the addictiveness, the horror of war. The horror... (Gillingham)
The buildup is just sublime and it's difficult not to get sucked in. My #59 ever. (Moonbeam)
It was never really close, as you can see by the points difference as well. Apocalypse Now took an early lead and never gave it away. (Stephan)

Critic: Apocalypse Now did help provide me, and many of my generation, with a vision of what film art could achieve, a vision so magnificent it doomed us to spend much of our subsequent moviegoing lives in a funk. (Eric Harrison)

Stephan · Post by **Stephan** » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:41 am

And that's that. It's been a pleasure to present these results. It seems like we're actually getting closer together in terms of our favorite films as we move further back in time, which is interesting to see. I hope you will all be there for the '60s as well.

Post by **Henrik** » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:52 pm

Thanks Stephan! Great presentation!

You got some comments at the end. The result was perhaps a little too predictable to be heavily discussed.