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Films of the 1990s: Final Top 150 Overall List Submissions

Postby Petri » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:02 pm

It's time for the final vote!

Please rank the movies you've seen in the final 150 and submit your list by email to me at popelton (at) gmail (dot) com. Please don't send your list here in the forum.

You can find the excel file below.

Please send your copy of the same excel sheet back.

The deadline is March 1st.

If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

Thanks! :)
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Postby Listyguy » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:13 pm

Is there a minimum for the number you vote on? I've seen a paltry 19 of these...

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Postby Petri » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:35 am

Listyguy wrote:Is there a minimum for the number you vote on? I've seen a paltry 19 of these...

There was a same question in the Films of the 2010s thread and we have discussed this in other threads too. There isn't but I think the main problem is if you have seen only few films on the list the films at the bottom half of your list will suffer although you probably like them all. I may try an alternative formula in which everybody has same total score (4448,246749 points = the sum of sigma(2100/(xi+20)) if you have seen all the 150 movies on the list). I guess then even 20 movies would be enough to participate. There's still six weeks time to watch the movies in the final. For a movie buff it can mean even 50 new movies. :)

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Nick wrote:I'd really like to participate, but I'm not sure if I've seen enough to contribute a worthwhile list. Is there a minimum number of films to have seen that's recommended for voting?

The formula (2100/(xi+20)) takes into account the movies you haven't seen and gives them a score of the average placement of your list (for example if you have seen 50 movies the ones you haven't seen will get the score that #25,5 (46,15 points) would get (#1 gets 100 points and #50 30 points) and if you have seen 85 movies the not seen ones get score of #43 (33,33 points and the last one #85 20 points). So basically the amount of movies you have seen won't affect that much to the movies you haven't seen but the less you have seen the more harm it will affect to the movies at the bottom of your list (because the difference for example between #49 and #50 is bigger than between #84 and #85).
There isn't a minimum number of films you have to see to participate but I think if you have seen less than 25 movies (that came from nowhere) (NOTE: Films of the 2010s was top 100 and 1990s is top 150) there's still a month to watch more.

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Re: Films of the 1990s: Final Top 150 Overall List Submissions

Postby Petri » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:41 am

Here are the finalists

A Simple Plan - Sam Raimi (1998)
Abre los ojos [Open Your Eyes] - Alejandro Amenábar (1997)
Aladdin - John Musker, Ron Clements (1992)
American Beauty - Sam Mendes (1999)
American History X - Tony Kaye (1998)
An Angel at My Table - Jane Campion (1990)
Bad Lieutenant - Abel Ferrara (1992)
Barton Fink - Joel & Ethan Coen (1991)
Basic Instinct - Paul Verhoeven (1992)
Beauty and the Beast - Gary Trousdale, Kirk Wise (1991)
Before Sunrise - Richard Linklater (1995)
Being John Malkovich - Spike Jonze (1999)
Boogie Nights - Paul Thomas Anderson (1997)
Boyz n the Hood - John Singleton (1991)
Bram Stoker's Dracula - Francis Ford Coppola (1992)
Breaking the Waves - Lars von Trier (1996)
Casino - Martin Scorsese (1995)
C'est arrivé près de chez vous [Man Bites Dog] - Remy Belvaux, André Bonzel, Benoît Poelvoorde (1992)
Clerks - Kevin Smith (1994)
Close-Up - Abbas Kiarostami (1990)
Clueless - Amy Heckerling (1995)
Crumb - Terry Zwigoff (1994)
Dances with Wolves - Kevin Costner (1990)
Dark City - Alex Proyas (1998)
Dazed and Confused - Richard Linklater (1993)
Dead Man - Jim Jarmusch (1995)
Die zweite Heimat - Chronik einer Jugend [Heimat II: A Chronicle of a Generation] - Edgar Reitz (1992)
Ed Wood - Tim Burton (1994)
Edward Scissorhands - Tim Burton (1990)
Election - Alexander Payne (1999)
Eyes Wide Shut - Stanley Kubrick (1999)
Fargo - Joel Coen/Ethan Coen (1996)
Festen [The Celebration] - Thomas Vinterberg (1998)
Fight Club - David Fincher (1999)
Forrest Gump - Robert Zemeckis (1994)
Funny Games - Michael Haneke (1997)
Gattaca - Andrew Niccol (1997)
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai - Jim Jarmusch (1999)
Glengarry Glen Ross - James Foley (1992)
Good Will Hunting - Gus Van Sant (1997)
Goodfellas - Martin Scorsese (1990)
Groundhog Day - Harold Ramis (1993)
Hana-bi [Fireworks] - Takeshi Kitano (1997)
Happiness - Todd Solondz (1998)
Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse - Fax Bahr, George Hickenlooper, Eleanor Coppola (1991)
Heat - Michael Mann (1995)
Hoop Dreams - Steve James (1994)
Howards End - James Ivory (1992)
Idioterne - Lars von Trier Denmark (1998)
In the Line of Fire - Wolfgang Petersen (1993)
In the Name of the Father - Jim Sheridan (1993)
Jackie Brown - Quentin Tarantino (1997)
James and the Giant Peach - Henry Selick (1996)
Jerry Maguire - Cameron Crowe (1996)
JFK - Oliver Stone (1991)
Jurassic Park - Steven Spielberg (1993)
Kauas pilvet karkaavat [Drifting Clouds] - Aki Kaurismäki (1996)
Kika - Pedro Almodóvar (1993)
King of New York - Abel Ferrara (1990)
L.A. Confidential - Curtis Hanson (1997)
La belle noiseuse [The Beautiful Troublemaker] - Jacques Rivette (1991)
La double vie de Véronique [The Double Life of Veronique] - Krzysztof Kieslowski (1991)
La haine [Hate] - Mathieu Kassovitz (1995)
La promesse [The Promise] - Luc Dardenne / Jean-Pierre Dardenne (1996)
La vita è bella [Life is Beautiful] - Roberto Benigni (1997)
L'appartement [The Appartment] - Gilles Mimouni (1996)
Le mari de la coiffeuse [The Hairdresser's Husband] - Patrice Leconte (1990)
Leaving Las Vegas - Mike Figgis (1995)
Léon [The Professional] - Luc Besson (1994)
Les amants du Pont-Neuf [The Lovers on the Bridge] - Leos Carax (1991)
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Guy Ritchie (1998)
Lola Rennt [Run Lola Run] - Tom Tykwer (1998)
Lone Star - John Sayles (1996)
Los amantes del círculo polar [The Lovers of the Arctic Circle] - Julio Médem (1998)
Lost Highway - David Lynch (1997)
Magnolia - Paul Thomas Anderson (1999)
Malcolm X - Spike Lee (1992)
Miller's Crossing - Joel & Ethan Coen (1990)
Naked - Mike Leigh (1993)
Orlando - Sally Potter (1992)
Out of Sight - Steven Soderbergh (1998)
Point Break - Kathryn Bigelow (1991)
Pulp Fiction - Quentin Tarantino (1994)
Pusher - Nicolas Winding Refn (1996)
Quiz Show - Robert Redford (1994)
Reservoir Dogs - Quentin Tarantino (1992)
Riget [The Kingdom] - Lars von Trier (1994)
Rosetta - Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne (1999)
Rushmore - Wes Anderson (1998)
Safe - Todd Haynes (1995)
Sátántangó [Satan's Tango] - Bela Tarr (1994)
Saving Private Ryan - Steven Spielberg (1998)
Schindler's List - Steven Spielberg (1993)
Se7en - David Fincher (1995)
Secrets & Lies - Mike Leigh (1996)
Short Cuts - Robert Altman (1993)
Simple Men - Hal Hartley (1992)
Sleepless in Seattle - Nora Ephron (1993)
Sling Blade - Billy Bob Thornton (1996)
Smoke - Wayne Wang (1995)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day - James Cameron (1991)
The Adjuster - Atom Egoyan (1991)
The Big Lebowski - Joel & Ethan Coen (1998)
The Crying Game - Neil Jordan (1992)
The English Patient - Anthony Minghella (1996)
The Fugitive - Andrew Davis (1993)
The Godfather, Part III - Francis Ford Coppola (1990)
The Ice Storm - Ang Lee (1997)
The Insider - Michael Mann (1999)
The Iron Giant - Brad Bird (1999)
The Lion King - Roger Allers/Rob Minkoff (1994)
The Matrix - Wachowski siblings (1999)
The Piano - Jane Campion (1993)
The Player - Robert Altman (1992)
The Remains of the Day - James Ivory (1993)
The Shawshank Redemption - Frank Darabont (1994)
The Silence of the Lambs - Jonathan Demme (1991)
The Sixth Sense - M. Night Shyamalan (1999)
The Straight Story - David Lynch (1999)
The Sweet Hereafter - Atom Egoyan (1997)
The Thin Red Line - Terrence Malick (1998)
The Truman Show - Peter Weir (1998)
The Usual Suspects - Bryan Singer (1995)
Thelma & Louise - Ridley Scott (1991)
Tierra - Julio Medem (1996)
Todo sobre mi madre [All About My Mother] - Pedro Almodóvar (1999)
Total Recall - Paul Verhoeven (1990)
Toy Story - John Lasseter (1995)
Toy Story 2 - John Lasseter/Ash Brannon/Lee Unkrich (1999)
Trainspotting - Danny Boyle (1996)
Trois couleurs: Blanc [Three Colors: White] - Krzyztof Kieslowski (1994)
Trois couleurs: Bleu [Three Colors: Blue] - Krzysztof Kieslowski (1993)
Trois couleurs: Rouge [Three Colors: Red] - Krzysztof Kieslowski (1994)
Trust - Hal Hartley (1990)
Tulitikkutehtaan tyttö [The Match Factory Girl] - Aki Kaurismäki (1990)
Twelve Monkeys - Terry Gilliam (1995)
Underground - Emir Kusturica (1995)
Unforgiven - Clint Eastwood (1992)
When We Were Kings - Leon Gast (1996)
Wild at Heart - David Lynch (1990)
ソナチネ [Sonatine] - Takeshi Kitano (1993)
もののけ姫 [Princess Mononoke] - Hayao Miyazaki (1997)
طعم گيلاس [Taste of Cherry] - Abbas Kiarostami (1997)
大紅燈籠高高掛 [Raise the Red Lantern] - Zhang Yimou (1991)
攻殻機動隊 [Ghost in the Shell] - Mamoru Oshii (1995)
春光乍洩 [Happy Together] - Wong Kar-wai (1997)
牯嶺街少年殺人事件 [A Brighter Summer Day] - Edward Yang (1991)
菊豆 [Ju Dou] - Zhang Yimou (1990)
重慶森林 [Chungking Express] - Wong Kar Wai (1994)
阿飛正傳 [Days of Being Wild] - Wong Kar-wai (1990)

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Re: Films of the 1990s: Final Top 150 Overall List Submissions

Postby Nick » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:02 pm

I've seen 44 of the 150. I'll try and watch some more and make a list but no promises.

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Postby jamieW » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:34 pm

I've seen most of these. (Probably at least 100 of them, since the '90's was when I was studying to be a film critic.) The trouble is that I don't remember many of them well enough to make an informed list. :(

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Postby BleuPanda » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:22 pm

Down to 5 movies left! By the end, I'll have watched 63 films for this project...including the gigantic Heimat II which necessitated watching the also gigantic Heimat I. I feel accomplished in getting this completed.
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Postby Dexter » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:41 am

jamieW wrote:I've seen most of these. (Probably at least 100 of them, since the '90's was when I was studying to be a film critic.) The trouble is that I don't remember many of them well enough to make an informed list. :(

I had the same problem. What I did was I went to Wikipedia which has summaries (sometimes very detailed ones) of movies to jog up my memory, read the critic's review and then watch via youtube, other streaming sites, or my own collection in my hard drive to re-watch in normal time or sped-up depending on my mood.

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Postby Petri » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:39 pm

BleuPanda wrote:Down to 5 movies left! By the end, I'll have watched 63 films for this project...including the gigantic Heimat II which necessitated watching the also gigantic Heimat I. I feel accomplished in getting this completed.

I have 9 movies left but probably will see only few of them before deadline (A Brighter Summer Day and Hal Hartley movies are the biggest misses (I have a feeling I don't get them anywhere soon.)) I haven't watched so many movies for this project (last round I did) but I must mention that last week I found and bought The Lovers of the Arctic Circle -VHS :o (with Finnish subtitles) Haven't watched it yet though but I actually have an old VCR. 8-)

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Postby BleuPanda » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:40 pm

Petri wrote:
BleuPanda wrote:Down to 5 movies left! By the end, I'll have watched 63 films for this project...including the gigantic Heimat II which necessitated watching the also gigantic Heimat I. I feel accomplished in getting this completed.

I have 9 movies left but probably will see only few of them before deadline (A Brighter Summer Day and Hal Hartley movies are the biggest misses (I have a feeling I don't get them anywhere soon.)) I haven't watched so many movies for this project (last round I did) but I must mention that last week I found and bought The Lovers of the Arctic Circle -VHS :o (with Finnish subtitles) Haven't watched it yet though but I actually have an old VCR. 8-)



Aw...I would heavily encourage you to get to A Brighter Summer Day if you get a chance! I just redid my top 500 films (https://letterboxd.com/foolfantastic/list/top-500-films-of-all-time-january-2017/detail/) and it ended up at #13 all-time for me.

I'm down to one film! All I have left is A Simple Plan, which keeps slipping out of my fingers by being checked out by other people. If all else fails, it's streaming on amazon.

Would it be alright if I submit my list without comments first? I don't want to somehow forget after putting so much effort in watching everything...
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Postby BleuPanda » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:17 pm

Well, I got a copy of A Simple Plan last night and watched it, so I'm finished! Now to work on doing write-ups for every movie. I'm finished with the top 10; they're kind of long, but I figure I'll get to more basic commentary once I get outside of my favorites.
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Postby Petri » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:30 am

BleuPanda wrote:Well, I got a copy of A Simple Plan last night and watched it, so I'm finished! Now to work on doing write-ups for every movie. I'm finished with the top 10; they're kind of long, but I figure I'll get to more basic commentary once I get outside of my favorites.

Great. Thanks in advance for writing comments. I really appreciate that.
BleuPanda wrote:Would it be alright if I submit my list without comments first? I don't want to somehow forget after putting so much effort in watching everything...

Yeah you can submit your list and add comments later if you want.

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Postby BleuPanda » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:49 pm

I have submitted my list, with a comment for every film! I'm happy to have actually completed this goal.
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Postby Petri » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:32 am

Two weeks to vote everyone.
So far I've received lists from bootsy, BleuPanda and bonnielaurel. I'm on a vacation in Japan next two weeks so it's possible that I won't respond to your mail quickly.
I will be super busy at least till August so I would appreciate if someone wants to take care of 80s polls. Any volunteers? :)

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Postby Gillingham » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:07 pm

Won't be able to submit anything that soon unfortunately.

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Postby Dexter » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:27 am

Can I ask for an extension? Like until March 15. Been Terribly busy.

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Dexter wrote:Can I ask for an extension? Like until March 15. Been Terribly busy.


I hope the answer is yes because I'm not sure I'll be able to finish mine tonight, either :|

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Postby BleuPanda » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:34 pm

Hmm...Petri hasn't been online since the 16th...
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Postby Petri » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:27 pm

Greg wrote:
Dexter wrote:Can I ask for an extension? Like until March 15. Been Terribly busy.


I hope the answer is yes because I'm not sure I'll be able to finish mine tonight, either :|

Just came from Japan. What a great country and trip (watched four movies on the flight today btw). I'll extend the deadline to March 15 (but will open the 1980 thread tomorrow). Now I'm very tired so I will list (and reply by email to) people who have already voted tomorrow (you can update your list if you want).
So the new deadline is March 15.

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Postby Maschine_Man » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:50 am

:happy-partydance:

I'm off to Scotland until the 13th, so I don't think I'll be able to change much to my list, but thank you so much for the extension!

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Postby Petri » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:31 am

So far I've received only seven ballots (from bootsy, BleuPanda, bonnielaurel, stone37, whuntva.Depeche Mode and Michel).
I hope the total amount of voters will be at least triple of this. Hopefully at least all who have taken part to year polls will participate

Dexter, Gillingham. Miguel, antonius, luney6, Greg, Midaso, fredp, Maschine_Man, Bruno and Charlie Driggs.

And also those who have been active in other threads at Films, movies, movies, motion pictures... -section:
babydoll, Rob, letmeintomyzone, Nick, StevieFan13, Nassim and many many more.

If you have seen movies from 90s you are more than welcome to participate :)

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Postby Bruno » Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:05 pm

Thanks, Petri!

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Postby Gillingham » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:51 am

Great to see the deadline is extended. I will try and make the 15th.

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Postby Rob » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:53 pm

I've just handed over my list. I didn't vote in the rounds, so I shouldn't complain too hard, but I felt this list slanted so heavily towards American cinema that it contains a shocking amount of middle-of-the-road American films, while the rest of the world was left by the way-side. The nineties were perhaps the least exciting decade for film, but still I found many personal favorites missing while throw-aways like Quiz Show, The Fugitive, Sleepless in Seattle, Point Break, In the Name of the Father, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Good Will Hunting, Jerry Maguire and Clueless swindled their way into the final results. I saw 109 of the films and if I use the broad way of rating films here is how I would categorize my rankings:

Highly Recommended: 1-26
Recommended: 27-54
Worth a look: 55-102
Approach with caution: 103-108
Not recommended: 109

Almost half is just Worth a look or less. But I didn't vote earlier, so I shouldn't complain too hard.

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Postby Petri » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:52 am

Rob wrote:I've just handed over my list. I didn't vote in the rounds, so I shouldn't complain too hard, but I felt this list slanted so heavily towards American cinema that it contains a shocking amount of middle-of-the-road American films, while the rest of the world was left by the way-side. The nineties were perhaps the least exciting decade for film, but still I found many personal favorites missing

There are many voters who have watched (or only enjoys) US (or at least movies with English dialogue) movies. Many times those "everybody has seen good but not great ones" have ended up pretty high on year lists but in the bottom quarter in the final results and vice versa many Asian films have done the opposite (for example Human Condition 3 was the #9 of its year from 1961 but in the final it was the highest from its year).

I sorted the movies by country (several European movies have many producing countries so I picked the main producing country).
In the final there are
93 movies from North America (Canada 2, USA 91(!!! :-o )
42 European movies (Austria 1, Belgium 3, Denmark 5, Finland 2, France 9, Germany 2, Hungary 1, Ireland 1, Italy 1, Poland* 1, Spain 5, UK 10 and Yugoslavia 1)**
* There are four movies by Krzysztof Kieslowski in the list but I counted movies of The Three Colors Trilogy as French films.
** Not a single movie from Sweden. Fucking Åmål was only one that was even close to qualify.
12 Asian movies (China 2, Hong Kong 3, Iran 2, Japan 4, Taiwan 1)
3 Oceanian movies ((Australia 1, New Zealand 2)
So not a single Latin American (not even Mexican) or African movie in the final.

Edit. And not a single Russian movie either.

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Postby notbrianeno » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:00 am

I plan on submitting a list!
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Postby Petri » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:52 am

notbrianeno wrote:I plan on submitting a list!

Great! :)
Next Wednesday is the last day to vote! So far I've received ten lists (from bootsy, BleuPanda, bonnielaurel, stone37, whuntva, Depeche Mode, Michel, Krurze, Rob and Dexter). Hopefully amount of lists will at least double. :)

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Postby antonius » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:50 pm

List sent

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Maybe you could put a small reminder in the music section?

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Postby Bruno » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:44 pm

List sent!

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Postby notbrianeno » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:45 am

Will we be able to submit lists on March 15th? Just need to know before I watch two more films :P
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Re: Films of the 1990s: Final Top 150 Overall List Submissions

Postby Petri » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:22 am

notbrianeno wrote:Will we be able to submit lists on March 15th? Just need to know before I watch two more films :P

Today is the last day to vote! So you can still watch movies today and add them to your list. You have at least 24 hours time to vote and if you need some extra hours let me know (more voters the better)

I have received lists from bootsy, BleuPanda, bonnielaurel, stone37, whuntva, Depeche Mode, Michel, Krurze, Rob, Dexter, antonius, Gillingham, Bruno, Rocky Raccoon, fredp, Maschine Man and Midaso. Some regulars haven't submitted their lists yet but I hope I get them today (+ I add my own list too of course.)

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Re: Films of the 1990s: Final Top 150 Overall List Submissions

Postby notbrianeno » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:27 pm

Sent!
Current AOTY 2017: St. Vincent | MASSEDUCTION
Current SOTY 2017: Godspeed You! Black Emperor | "Bosses Hang"

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Re: Films of the 1990s: Final Top 150 Overall List Submissions

Postby Petri » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:08 am

Got list from Dolly Wilde, Greg and notbrianeno. 21 lists total.
If someone wants to submit his/her list now it's the last minute to tell about it.
I will start to release the results later today.


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