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Post by JimmyJazz » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:24 am

Hello fellow AM resident cinephiles! :greetings-waveyellow:

All good film buffs love making lists of their favorite movies (just glance at the 3000+ individual ballots used in the TSPDT 1000, plus the popularity of the IMDB 250 to see the significant truth of this statement!). Yet, there is only one other type of list that this unique species of human known as homo cinephalis (bad pun, I know…) loves to make… and that is the list of their favorite directors, or, to borrow the term coined by the French critics of Cahiers du Cinema, and later Anglicized by such major film critics Robin Wood in the UK and Andrew Sarris in the States, auteurs.

We as cinephiles all have that special “list”, the one that is made up of the holy “pantheon” of artists who define the cinema for us. So, finally, we will be polling our small film group to see which auteurs really mean the most to, well, the most of us.

Please submit a list of your favorite filmmakers/auteurs. This list can be of any size you wish, however please submit a list of at least 10 directors to qualify. Additionally, the max size that will be counted for a list is 100. Please submit all lists to me via PM. However, if you wish to make comments, feel free to ask me and I will provide you my email via PM, and you can send your file in Excel.

The formula being used for this is the exact same as the previous AM artist poll we did in 2013. The formula: score = 12,28344771/tan((position+10)/90)
However, if anybody has a suggestion for a better formula to use, go right ahead, as long as we all get a consensus about it.

The deadline for all list submissions is midnight of 23 December.

Let the auteur lists (and battles for the #1 spot) begin! I will provide little hints and teasers for people to figure out which auteurs are doing well after certain numbers of lists are submitted.

Also, for the record: Please do NOT post director lists on this page! I feel like it will spoil which filmmakers are doing well, and may lead to strategic voting. After the final roll-out has happened, then we can post our entire lists for everyone’s viewing pleasures.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:26 am

Also, as the title implies, please feel free to use this page not only as the place where you PM me your lists, but also to discuss and speculate what directors may do well, and get into director discussions in general if you want. As I said, I will drop little teasers here and there, and will provide updates on which AMers have submitted ballots.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:55 pm

1 list received so far, from Bootsy.

I also want to reiterate to others (not to Bootsy) to please make a list of only your "favorites". Once you get into the category of directors you merely like but not love, I would suggest cutting it off.

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Post by Jirin » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:04 am

How do we list pairs of directors who always work together? Like the Coens or Powell & Pressburger?

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Post by JimmyJazz » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:49 am

Jirin wrote:How do we list pairs of directors who always work together? Like the Coens or Powell & Pressburger?
Just go ahead and list them as a pair. Of course, if you enjoy the entire work of, say, Michael Powell, then go ahead and list him as one director.

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Post by Petri » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:26 pm

This takes more time than I expected. I have now list of 180 directors. Still a lot left to do (mostly sorting and checking that I haven't forget anyone).
I will send top 100 later this month.

Some irrelevant stats concerning my list.
The director whose movies I've seen the most that won't be in top 50
Steven Spielberg (seen 22 feauture films directed by him)

The director whose movies I've seen the most that won't be in top 100.
Renny Harlin (seen :? 13 :whistle: of his movies including some of the worst movies ever)

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Post by JimmyJazz » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:46 am

Ok, so we are two weeks into this poll now. Here are the 8 ballots so far:

Bootsy
Jirin
PlasticRam
Chambord
Miguel
BleuPanda
Stephan
And Myself (JimmyJazz)

Ballots that I am still currently waiting on:

Gillingham
Petri
Michel
Bonnielaurel
Rob
Irreduciblekoan
Harold
Stone37
Greg

I also really hope that maybe some others who seem to be really into movies may vote as well, like Henrik, Nicolas, HRS, Pauldrach, Moonbeam, etc...

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Post by JimmyJazz » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:05 am

That above list is now 9 with Gillingham's ballot submitted. Keep em coming people!

There is exactly 14 days left to submit this thing!

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Post by JimmyJazz » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:29 am

Now 12 days. Remember the deadline is the 23rd everybody!

With a small number of ballots so far any director in the 1-30 range is still fair game to be in the final list!

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Post by Gillingham » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:47 am

JimmyJazz wrote:Now 12 days. Remember the deadline is the 23rd everybody!

With a small number of ballots so far any director in the 1-30 range is still fair game to be in the final list!
How long will the final least be? 100?

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Post by JimmyJazz » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:03 pm

Gillingham wrote:
JimmyJazz wrote:Now 12 days. Remember the deadline is the 23rd everybody!

With a small number of ballots so far any director in the 1-30 range is still fair game to be in the final list!
How long will the final least be? 100?
I was aiming for a 100, but at this rate it might have to become a top 50 instead. I am wondering if I should extend the deadline to the end of the year instead actually. The ballot sizes are all over the place, from 28 to 50 to 83 to 100.

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Post by Maschine_Man » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:30 pm

I would love to make a ballot, I'll try get it in within a week!

Are there any hints at how to make a film ranking list for future reference? Albums are easy, I don't have time to re-watch all of the films I have already seen.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:41 am

So, we now have HRS, Nicolas, and, of course, Maschine Man signed up for this as well!

Just got Bonnielaurel's ballot, bringing us to 10 at this point. If all proceeds smoothly, we should have 20 ballots for this, which should net a decent enough Top 100.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:06 pm

Also, Pauldrach has signed up!

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Post by JimmyJazz » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:31 am

With Rob's ballot we have 11 lists now.

9 days are left to submit your ballots everybody! Essentially, there is one more week available to submit a list if you wish.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:51 pm

Now Maschine Man and Petri submitted their ballots, bringing our number of ballots to 13 now.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:05 pm

I have received two more ballots, from McJagger and Whuntva. Keep em coming people! 7 days left!

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Post by McJagger » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:27 pm

Here are my predictions for the top ten:

1. Stanley Kubrick
2. Alfred Hitchcock
3. Martin Scorsese
4. Francis Ford Coppola
5. Steven Spielberg
6. Paul Thomas Anderson
7. David Lynch
8. Akira Kurosawa
9. Joel and Ethan Coen
10. Christopher Nolan

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Post by Jirin » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:00 pm

You don't think non-English directors will factor in? This is a 2/3 European website. I would imagine names like Godard, Bergman, Tarkovsky, etc would also factor very highly.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:59 am

Both McJagger and Jirin are right and wrong in some of their predictions, currently with the results based off the 16 ballots now factored in.

McJagger, only half of the directors in your predicted Top Ten are currently in the Top Ten at the moment. One of the directors at the moment you mentioned is not doing very well at all, in fact.

Jirin, you are right that many great non-English filmmakers are doing well in the poll, however the Anglo filmmakers are definitely prevailing (and by Anglo I mean American more specifically as well). Older Hollywood masters are fairing even worse, and both of these trends somewhat sadden me. But, if the people speak, they speak!

I hope that people like Greg, Harold, Irreducibkekoan, Stone37, HRS, Nicolas, Henrik, Michel, and Pauldrach will submit their ballots to produce the last changes to this current list! The deadline is the 23rd everyone!!!
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Post by JimmyJazz » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:01 am

As I mentioned in a link I put up on the Music Music Music board, there is now officially 5 days, less than a week, to submit your ballot!!! If you want to get in your list, I would suggest doing so very soon over the next couple of days!

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Post by Henrik » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:30 am

JimmyJazz wrote:Jirin, you are right that many great non-English filmmakers are doing well in the poll, however the Anglo filmmakers are definitely prevailing (and by Anglo I mean American more specifically as well). Older Hollywood masters are fairing even worse, and both of these trends somewhat sadden me. But, if the people speak, they speak!
The more reminders, the more saddening (for you) results you will probably get... :whistle:
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Post by JimmyJazz » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:04 pm

Henrik wrote:
JimmyJazz wrote:Jirin, you are right that many great non-English filmmakers are doing well in the poll, however the Anglo filmmakers are definitely prevailing (and by Anglo I mean American more specifically as well). Older Hollywood masters are fairing even worse, and both of these trends somewhat sadden me. But, if the people speak, they speak!
The more reminders, the more saddening (for you) results you will probably get... :whistle:
Oh, I don't mind these kinds of results of course. Maybe the full top 100 will feature some directors other voters hadn't really explored before, or considered the stature of, and they can explore their work.

Same when the individual ballots are posted afterwards.

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Post by Jirin » Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:04 pm

I'd be surprised if a site with such a heavily European population only voted for Americans.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:58 pm

With days passing by, and the deadline quickly approaching (we currently have 4 days now!), I want everyone to have their say on this:

Do you think the deadline should be extended to New Year's Eve? I feel like that would give more people time to submit lists once the holiday season is essentially over, and all the busy lifestyle that entails. In favor of an extension or no?

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Post by Gillingham » Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:26 pm

JimmyJazz wrote:With days passing by, and the deadline quickly approaching (we currently have 4 days now!), I want everyone to have their say on this:

Do you think the deadline should be extended to New Year's Eve? I feel like that would give more people time to submit lists once the holiday season is essentially over, and all the busy lifestyle that entails. In favor of an extension or no?
I'm in favor of extension, but mostly for a different (and personal) reason, since I will only be able to see the results from about halfway through January.

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Post by bootsy » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:37 pm

JimmyJazz wrote:With days passing by, and the deadline quickly approaching (we currently have 4 days now!), I want everyone to have their say on this:

Do you think the deadline should be extended to New Year's Eve? I feel like that would give more people time to submit lists once the holiday season is essentially over, and all the busy lifestyle that entails. In favor of an extension or no?
I say no. You've given people plenty of time and warning with the thread in the music section.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:12 am

I see what you mean, but at the same time, the timing of the deadline is pretty poor given Christmas and holiday festivities. A number of folks expressed interest in this poll, but also stressed that holidays are stressing them. Things should ease up after Christmas Day. So I am seriously considering extending this thing. I wish people would get back to my PMs though. I never know if they got stuck in my Outbox.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:02 am

Okay, I think I have a solution to this. I will wait and see if the remaining potential voters (those being Harold, Greg, Irreduciblekoan, Nicolas, Michel, Pauldrach, HRS, Stone37, and Henrik) get their votes in by said deadline. If that turns out not to be the case, then I will extend the deadline to New Year's Eve.

Before anyone calls fowl, I will just say that 16 voters seems rather small for a poll about artists like filmmakers. Getting up to 25 makes more sense, as then we have a number that would be more common for one of our music games, for example. A solid quarter, if you will. The results will be more skewed with less weight behind them as it stands currently.

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Post by McJagger » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:28 am

Hm, I wonder which of the directors I mentioned is doing poorly. Maybe I overestimated the appeal of PT Anderson, who I thought was generally regarded as the best American filmmaker working today - an opinion I don't share, although I do enjoy his movies.

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Post by Jirin » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:20 am

What I like to do is elicit people to ask for an extension if they want one. If somebody is working on a list and just needs a little more time, give it to them. Otherwise, move the game along.

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Post by pauldrach » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:31 am

I thought I had already sent mine but it appears I didn't. You should have it now.
McJagger wrote:Hm, I wonder which of the directors I mentioned is doing poorly.
I'm thinking Spielberg. All the others you mentioned have quite significant followings among cinephiles. Spielberg is more of a popular favorite, who I imagine will indeed appear on most lists but not very high, also considering how uneven his filmography is.

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Post by Rob » Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:22 pm

My first guess was that Christopher Nolan wouldn't make it. Though if we're talking uneven Francis Ford Coppola should take the bite, no matter how strong his four seventies films are. Perhaps I'm just projection my own wishes here, as they are the two from McJagger's list I didn't vote for.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:14 pm

Received Pauldrach's list, bringing us to 17 ballots.

The filmmakers mentioned above are all interesting cases being made, but only one of those four is the correct guess.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:32 am

Henrik just submitted his list as well, bringing our ballot number to 18.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:06 am

2 days left until the current deadline, everyone!

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Post by JimmyJazz » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:48 pm

Received Michel's ballot, bringing us to 19 now.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:44 am

Just received Harold's ballot, bringing us to 20.

There is almost 24 hours until the current deadline ends. I would like to get more ballots than this, but I don't know how to get this announcement out there for all of the people who haven't submitted lists yet but said they would like to. I feel a lot of people don't check this section because they keep seeing my name on the last posted area and assume it hasn't updated. They aren't checking the date or something.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:42 pm

21 ballots thanks to Stone37 now!

Less than 24 hours people! Get those last votes in!

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Post by JimmyJazz » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:06 pm

Change of plans, folks!!!

I was for a long time thinking that the 23rd was Christmas Eve. I was politely reminded today, however, that the 24th is Eve, and the 25th Christmas Day. How I forgot this I will never know...

So, I am now moving the deadline to the midnight of the 25th. I figure that I am not going to be rolling out the results on Christmas Day anyways, so I will allow anyone to have extra time to get their last minute lists in.

I am extremely sorry guys for this screw up!

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Post by Stephan » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:10 pm

No worries, not really a screwup. :) 21 isn't a bad turnout at all; I expected less. I'm really curious as to the results, this could be one of the most surprising polls we've ever had.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:17 am

Okay guys. I will be off the radar for the next 24 hours basically for Christmas. If anyone has last minute lists to submit or want any extensions, you have that time frame to do so. Starting midnight tomorrow, this poll will close up... perhaps. Henrik's comments in the 70s poll thread, which I myself am behind on participating in, has given me reflection on the timing of this poll around the holidays as I mentioned previously. We will see how it goes...

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Post by JimmyJazz » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:58 am

Okay guys, seeing as how Greg hasn't submitted his list yet, but told me a few dats ago that he is working on it, and in order to give some of the other possible voters more potential time, I will extend the deadline to the 31st, midnight once again. I am sorry for doing it this way, but if people are busy making lists with their personal lives at the same time, I don't want to let them miss out on voting simply because of bad timing on my part.

I won't extend the deadline any longer than that, though, As I will rolling the results over the course of my last week off, so things will get busy for me yet again.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:59 am

Also, currently 22 ballots, thanks to LiveinPhoenix!

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Post by Romain » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:10 am

I will sent you a list today.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:00 pm

23 ballots, Thanks to Romain!

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Post by Gillingham » Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:24 am

Great turnout guys!
Looking forward to the results.

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Post by JimmyJazz » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:58 pm

There are essentially two days left to vote, everybody!

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Post by JimmyJazz » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:16 pm

One more day to submit lists! This poll closes when the New Year begins!

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Post by JimmyJazz » Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:53 am

Okay, this poll is closed. Expect results in a couple of days.

Happy New Year everyone!!!

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