Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time (2020 edition)

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Arsalan wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:29 am The Stone Roses is often regarded as one of the top 100 albums ever.
Considering it wasn't on the original list and then 498 in 2012, that is a big improvement.

So, so much neo-soul on the list now. And yet The Roots only get one album and Common doesn't make the list?
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Arsalan wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:29 am Teens of Denial and Blurryface(These 2 should not be called "One of the greatest of all time" anytime soon,but when i see some overrated albums from the same decade made the list i think why they didn't make it)
Blurryface kinda got a critical shrug and twenty one pilots aren’t as huge now as they were two or so years ago. I don’t think it would make any sense for them to be on the list.
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And honestly, I kinda delighted in seeing the lack of a ton of ‘00s white indie. Not just cuz white guys have had it *so tough* lately, but also because music criticism is just as in dire need of de-Pitchforkication as it is in need of not lionizing the classic rock canon over everything else. That being said: yes, it is a little odd that Illinois didn’t make the cut. I’m not weeping, but it’s odd. (But hey, you got Neutral Milk Hotel this time! That’s something, right?)
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One thing top keep in mins is that, like the initial list, this featured a good number of voters (300-plus), so it's not just Rolling Stone contributors having their say.
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2020 vs. 2012

1 / 6 / Marvin Gaye - What's Going On 1971
2 / 2 / The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds 1966
3 / 30 / Joni Mitchell - Blue 1971
4 / 57 / Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life 1976
5 / 14 / The Beatles - Abbey Road 1969
6 / 17 / Nirvana - Nevermind 1991
7 / 26 / Fleetwood Mac - Rumours 1977
8 / 76 / Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain 1984
9 / 16 / Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks 1975
10 / 314 / Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill 1998
11 / 3 / The Beatles - Revolver 1966
12 / 20 / Michael Jackson - Thriller 1982
13 / 84 / Aretha Franklin - I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You 1967
14 / 7 / The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St. 1972
15 / 48 / Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back 1988
16 / 8 / The Clash - London Calling 1979
17 / 353 / Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 2010
18 / 4 / Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited 1965
19 / new / Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly 2015
20 / 67 / Radiohead - Kid A 2000
21 / 18 / Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run 1975
22 / 134 / The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die 1994
23 / 13 / The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground & Nico 1967
24 / 1 / The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 1967
25 / 36 / Carole King - Tapestry 1971
26 / 44 / Patti Smith - Horses 1975
27 / 387 / Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) 1993
28 / 481 / D'Angelo - Voodoo 2000
29 / 10 / The Beatles - The Beatles (White Album) 1968
30 / 15 / The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced? 1967
31 / 12 / Miles Davis - Kind of Blue 1959
32 / new / Beyoncé - Lemonade 2016
33 / 451 / Amy Winehouse - Back to Black 2006
34 / 24 / Stevie Wonder - Innervisions 1973
35 / 5 / The Beatles - Rubber Soul 1965
36 / 68 / Michael Jackson - Off the Wall 1979
37 / 138 / Dr. Dre - The Chronic 1992
38 / 9 / Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde 1966
39 / 129 / Talking Heads - Remain in Light 1980
40 / 35 / David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars 1972
41 / 32 / The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed 1969
42 / 162 / Radiohead - OK Computer 1997
43 / 153 / A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory 1991
44 / 402 / Nas - Illmatic 1994
45 / 93 / Prince - Sign O' the Times 1987
46 / 71 / Paul Simon - Graceland 1986
47 / 33 / Ramones - Ramones 1976
48 / 46 / Bob Marley and the Wailers - Legend 1984
49 / 500 / OutKast - Aquemini 1998
50 / 252 / Jay-Z - The Blueprint 2001
51 / 21 / Chuck Berry - The Great Twenty-Eight 1982
52 / 324 / David Bowie - Station to Station 1976
53 / 55 / The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland 1968
54 / 75 / James Brown - Star Time 1991
55 / 43 / Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon 1973
56 / 327 / Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville 1993
57 / 45 / The Band - The Band 1969
58 / 69 / Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV 1971
59 / 90 / Stevie Wonder - Talking Book 1972
60 / 19 / Van Morrison - Astral Weeks 1968
61 / 228 / Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full 1987
62 / 62 / Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction 1987
63 / 145 / Steely Dan - Aja 1977
64 / 361 / OutKast - Stankonia 2000
65 / 25 / James Brown - Live at the Apollo 1963
66 / 47 / John Coltrane - A Love Supreme 1965
67 / 250 / Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt 1996
68 / new / Kate Bush - Hounds of Love 1985
69 / re / Alanis Morrissette - Jagged Little Pill 1995
70 / 144 / N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton 1988
71 / 169 / Bob Marley & The Wailers - Exodus 1977
72 / 82 / Neil Young - Harvest 1972
73 / 221 / My Bloody Valentine - Loveless 1991
74 / 298 / Kanye West - The College Dropout 2004
75 / 85 / Aretha Franklin - Lady Soul 1968
76 / 72 / Curtis Mayfield - Superfly 1972
77 / 28 / The Who - Who's Next 1971
78 / re / Elvis Presley - The Sun Sessions 1976
79 / new / Frank Ocean - Blonde 2016
80 / 41 / Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks - Here's the Sex Pistols 1977
81 / new / Beyoncé - Beyoncé 2013
82 / 99 / Sly and the Family Stone - There's a Riot Goin' On 1971
83 / 89 / Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis 1969
84 / 77 / AC/DC - Back in Black 1980
85 / 23 / John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band 1970
86 / 42 / The Doors - The Doors 1967
87 / 95 / Miles Davis - Bitches Brew 1970
88 / 108 / David Bowie - Hunky Dory 1971
89 / new / Erykah Badu - Baduizm 1997
90 / 74 / Neil Young - After the Gold Rush 1970
91 / 150 / Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town 1978
92 / 83 / The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Axis: Bold as Love 1967
93 / new / Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott - Supa Dupa Fly 1997
94 / 191 / The Stooges - Fun House 1970
95 / new / Drake - Take Care 2011
96 / 249 / R.E.M. - Automatic for the People 1992
97 / 167 / Metallica - Master of Puppets 1986
98 / 305 / Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road 1998
99 / new / Taylor Swift - Red 2012
100 / 34 / The Band - Music from Big Pink 1968
101 / 29 / Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin 1969
102 / 81 / The Clash - The Clash 1977
103 / 346 / De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising 1989
104 / 64 / The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers 1971
105 / 49 / The Allman Brothers Band - At Fillmore East 1971
106 / 460 / Hole - Live Through This 1994
107 / 130 / Television - Marquee Moon 1977
108 / new / Fiona Apple - When the Pawn... 1999
109 / 194 / Lou Reed - Transformer 1972
110 / 113 / Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark 1974
111 / new / Janet Jackson - Control 1986
112 / 91 / Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road 1973
113 / 218 / The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead 1986
114 / 199 / The Strokes - Is This It 2001
115 / new / Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city 2012
116 / 326 / The Cure - Disintegration 1989
117 / 118 / Kanye West - Late Registration 2005
118 / 37 / The Eagles - Hotel California 1976
119 / 121 / Sly and the Family Stone - Stand! 1969
120 / 66 / Van Morrison - Moondance 1970
121 / 98 / Elvis Costello - This Year's Model 1978
122 / 201 / Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral 1994
123 / 79 / Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II 1969
124 / 63 / U2 - Achtung Baby 1991
125 / 156 / Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique 1989
126 / 281 / Mary J. Blige - My Life 1994
127 / 105 / Ray Charles - Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music 1962
128 / 231 / Queen - A Night at the Opera 1975
129 / 87 / Pink Floyd - The Wall 1979
130 / 163 / Prince - 1999 1982
131 / 419 / Portishead - Dummy 1994
132 / 94 / Hank Williams - 40 Greatest Hits 1978
133 / new / Joni Mitchell - Hejira 1976
134 / 469 / Fugees - The Score 1996
135 / 27 / U2 - The Joshua Tree 1987
136 / 479 / Funkadelic - Maggot Brain 1971
137 / new / Adele - 21 2011
138 / 184 / Madonna - The Immaculate Collection 1990
139 / 131 / Black Sabbath - Paranoid 1970
140 / 126 / Bob Marley and The Wailers - Catch a Fire 1973
141 / 227 / Pixies - Doolittle 1989
142 / 86 / Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. 1984
143 / 316 / The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground 1969
144 / 73 / Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti 1975
145 / 244 / Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 2000
146 / 140 / Blondie - Parallel Lines 1978
147 / 304 / Jeff Buckley - Grace 1994
148 / new / Frank Ocean - Channel Orange 2012
149 / 452 / John Prine - John Prine 1971
150 / 226 / Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska 1982
151 / 472 / George Michael - Faith 1987
152 / 155 / The Pretenders - Pretenders 1980
153 / 406 / PJ Harvey - Rid of Me 1993
154 / new / Aretha Franklin - Amazing Grace 1972
155 / 349 / Jay-Z - The Black Album 2003
156 / 241 / The Replacements - Let It Be 1984
157 / 378 / Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory? 1995
158 / new / Erykah Badu - Mama's Gun 2000
159 / 448 / The Police - Synchronicity 1983
160 / 209 / Pearl Jam - Ten 1991
161 / 262 / Crosby, Stills & Nash - Crosby, Stills & Nash 1969
162 / new / Pulp - Different Class 1995
163 / 132 / Various Artists - Saturday Night Fever 1977
164 / 88 / Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison 1968
165 / 197 / R.E.M. - Murmur 1983
166 / 92 / Buddy Holly - 20 Golden Greats 1978
167 / 342 / Depeche Mode - Violator 1990
168 / 240 / Steely Dan - Can't Buy a Thrill 1972
169 / 70 / Billy Joel - The Stranger 1977
170 / 114 / Cream - Disraeli Gears 1967
171 / 328 / Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation 1988
172 / 51 / Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water 1970
173 / 435 / Nirvana - In Utero 1993
174 / 122 / Jimmy Cliff & Various Artists - The Harder They Come: Original Soundtrack 1972
175 / new / Kendrick Lamar - DAMN. 2017
176 / 302 / Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet 1990
177 / 172 / Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells a Story 1971
178 / 78 / Otis Redding - Otis Blue 1965
179 / 476 / The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death 1997
180 / 40 / Love - Forever Changes 1967
181 / 31 / Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home 1965
182 / 104 / James Taylor - Sweet Baby James 1970
183 / new / D'Angelo - Brown Sugar 1995
184 / 487 / Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual 1983
185 / 58 / The Rolling Stones - Beggars Banquet 1968
186 / 310 / Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik 1991
187 / new / Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted 1990
188 / 160 / T. Rex - Electric Warrior 1971
189 / 272 / Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out 1997
190 / 96 / The Who - Tommy 1969
191 / 119 / Etta James - At Last! 1961
192 / 219 / Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill 1986
193 / 309 / Creedence Clearwater Revival - Willy and the Poor Boys 1969
194 / 203 / Michael Jackson - Bad 1987
195 / 295 / Leonard Cohen - Songs of Leonard Cohen 1967
196 / new / Robyn - Body Talk 2010
197 / 53 / The Beatles - Meet the Beatles! 1964
198 / 152 / The B-52's - The B-52's 1979
199 / 135 / Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted 1993
200 / new / Sade - Diamond Life 1984
201 / new / A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders 1993
202 / new / Björk - Homogenic 1997
203 / 321 / Nick Drake - Pink Moon 1979
204 / new / Kanye West - Graduation 2007
205 / 208 / Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman 1970
206 / 251 / David Bowie - Low 1977
207 / 368 / Eagles - Eagles 1972
208 / 437 / Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III 2008
209 / 123 / Run-DMC - Raising Hell 1986
210 / 54 / Ray Charles - The Birth of Soul 1991
211 / new / Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures 1980
212 / new / Nina Simone - Wild Is the Wind 1966
213 / new / Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel... 2012
214 / new / Tom Petty - Wildflowers 1994
215 / 261 / Grateful Dead - American Beauty 1970
216 / new / Elliott Smith - Either/Or 1997
217 / new / Oasis - Definitely Maybe 1994
218 / 379 / TLC - CrazySexyCool 1994
219 / 480 / Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 1995
220 / 147 / Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Déjà Vu 1970
221 / 365 / Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine 1992
222 / 367 / Madonna - Ray of Light 1998
223 / 80 / John Lennon - Imagine 1971
224 / new / Dixie Chicks - Fly 1999
225 / 493 / Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 2001
226 / 117 / Derek and the Dominos - Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs 1970
227 / 50 / Little Richard - Here's Little Richard 1957
228 / new / De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead 1991
229 / 235 / Patsy Cline - The Ultimate Collection 2000
230 / new / Rihanna - Anti 2016
231 / 315 / Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - Damn the Torpedoes 1979
232 / 103 / John Coltrane - Giant Steps 1960
233 / new / Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes 1992
234 / 300 / Black Sabbath - Master of Reality 1971
235 / 255 / Metallica - Metallica 1991
236 / new / Daft Punk - Discovery 2001
237 / 183 / Willie Nelson - Red Headed Stranger 1975
238 / 256 / Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express 1977
239 / re / Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded 1987
240 / 439 / Sam Cooke - Live at the Harlem Square Club, 1963 1985
241 / 397 / Massive Attack - Blue Lines 1991
242 / 110 / The Velvet Underground - Loaded 1970
243 / 100 / The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle 1968
244 / new / Kanye West - 808s & Heartbreak 2008
245 / new / Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas 1990
246 / new / LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out 1991
247 / new / Sade - Love Deluxe 1992
248 / 225 / Green Day - American Idiot 2004
249 / 257 / Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston 1985
250 / 360 / Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady 1979
251 / 359 / Elton John - Honky Château 1972
252 / 442 / Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! 1978
253 / 347 / Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 1967
254 / new / Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters 1973
255 / 97 / Bob Dylan - The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan 1963
256 / 263 / Tracy Chapman - Tracy Chapman 1988
257 / 301 / Dolly Parton - Coat of Many Colors 1971
258 / new / Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns 1975
259 / 125 / Janis Joplin - Pearl 1971
260 / new / The Slits - Cut 1979
261 / new / Beastie Boys - Check Your Head 1992
262 / new / New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies 1983
263 / 307 / The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night 1964
264 / 211 / Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here 1975
265 / new / Pavement - Wowee Zowee 1995
266 / 331 / The Beatles - Help! 1965
267 / 413 / Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime 1984
268 / 322 / Randy Newman - Sail Away 1972
269 / new / Kanye West - Yeezus 2013
270 / new / Kacey Musgraves - Golden Hour 2018
271 / new / Mary J. Blige - What's the 411? 1992
272 / 293 / The Velvet Underground - White Light/White Heat 1968
273 / 483 / Gang of Four - Entertainment! 1979
274 / 120 / The Byrds - Sweetheart of the Rodeo 1968
275 / new / Curtis Mayfield - Curtis 1970
276 / 101 / Radiohead - The Bends 1995
277 / new / Alicia Keys - The Diary of Alicia Keys 2003
278 / 148 / Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy 1973
279 / 313 / Nirvana - MTV Unplugged in New York 1994
280 / new / 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin' 2002
281 / new / Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson 1971
282 / 101 / Frank Sinatra - In the Wee Small Hours 1955
283 / new / Donna Summer - Bad Girls 1975
284 / 477 / Merle Haggard - Down Every Road: 1962-1994 1996
285 / 449 / Big Star - 3rd/Sister Lovers 1978
286 / 401 / Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication 1999
287 / 233 / The Byrds - Mr. Tambourine Man 1965
288 / 382 / The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers 1976
289 / 376 / Björk - Post 1995
290 / new / OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below 2003
291 / new / Destiny's Child - The Writing's on the Wall 1999
292 / 415 / Van Halen - Van Halen 1978
293 / new / The Breeders - Last Splash 1993
294 / 299 / Weezer - Weezer (The Blue Album) 1994
295 / new / Daft Punk - Random Access Memories 2013
296 / 351 / Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps 1979
297 / 187 / Peter Gabriel - So 1986
298 / new / Tom Petty - Full Moon Fever 1989
299 / 141 / B.B. King - Live at the Regal 1965
300 / new / Shania Twain - Come On Over 1997
301 / 215 / New York Dolls - New York Dolls 1973
302 / 330 / Neil Young - Tonight's the Night 1975
303 / 179 / ABBA - The Definitive Collection 2001
304 / new / Bill Withers - Just As I Am 1971
305 / 159 / Kiss - Alive! 1975
306 / 286 / Al Green - I'm Still in Love with You 1972
307 / 107 / Sam Cooke - Portrait of a Legend 2003
308 / 432 / Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets 1974
309 / 157 / Joy Division - Closer 1980
310 / 412 / Wire - Pink Flag 1977
311 / new / Neil Young - On the Beach 1974
312 / new / Solange - A Seat at the Table 2016
313 / 431 / PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea 2000
314 / new / Aaliyah - One in a Million 1996
315 / new / Rosalía - El Mal Querer 2018
316 / 115 / The Who - The Who Sell Out 1967
317 / new / Billie Holiday - Lady in Satin 1958
318 / 259 / Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope 1997
319 / 498 / The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses 1989
320 / 287 / X - Los Angeles 1980
321 / new / Lana Del Rey - Norman Fucking Rockwell! 2019
322 / 190 / Elvis Presley - From Elvis in Memphis 1969
323 / 407 / The Clash - Sandinista! 1980
324 / 466 / Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head 2002
325 / 245 / Jerry Lee Lewis - All Killer No Filler! 1993
326 / 206 / Prince - Dirty Mind 1980
327 / 170 / The Who - Live at Leeds 1970
328 / new / Vampire Weekend - Modern Vampires of the City 2013
329 / new / DJ Shadow - Endtroducing... 1996
330 / 109 / The Rolling Stones - Aftermath 1966
331 / 239 / Madonna - Like a Prayer 1989
332 / 56 / Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley 1956
333 / new / Bill Withers - Still Bill 1972
334 / 207 / Santana - Abraxas 1970
335 / 292 / Bob Dylan & The Band - The Basement Tapes 1975
336 / re / Roxy Music - Avalon 1982
337 / 303 / Bob Dylan - John Wesley Harding 1967
338 / 429 / Brian Eno - Another Green World 1975
339 / 277 / Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation 1814 1989
340 / new / Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle 1993
341 / 362 / The Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream 1993
342 / 392 / The Beatles - Let It Be 1970
343 / 61 / Sly & the Family Stone - Greatest Hits 1970
344 / 380 / Toots & the Maytals - Funky Kingston 1973
345 / 133 / Bruce Springsteen - The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle 1973
346 / new / Arctic Monkeys - AM 2013
347 / new / GZA - Liquid Swords 1995
348 / new / Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator) 2001
349 / 294 / MC5 - Kick Out the Jams 1969
350 / 285 / Stevie Wonder - Music of My Mind 1972
351 / 396 / Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure 1973
352 / 275 / Eminem - The Slim Shady LP 1999
353 / 284 / The Cars - The Cars 1978
354 / new / X-Ray Spex - Germfree Adolescents 1978
355 / 243 / Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath 1970
356 / 143 / Dr. John - Gris-Gris 1968
357 / 399 / Tom Waits - Rain Dogs 1985
358 / new / Sonic Youth - Goo 1990
359 / 405 / Big Star - Radio City 1974
360 / 177 / Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove 1978
361 / new / My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade 2006
362 / new / Luther Vandross - Never Too Much 1981
363 / 276 / Parliament - Mothership Connection 1975
364 / 383 / Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings and Foods 1978
365 / new / Madvillain - Madvillainy 2004
366 / 176 / Aerosmith - Rocks 1976
367 / new / Drake - If You're Reading This It's Too Late 2015
368 / 433 / George Harrison - All Things Must Pass 1970
369 / new / Mobb Deep - The Infamous 1995
370 / new / Lil Wayne - Tha Carter II 2005
371 / 400 / The Temptations - Anthology 1973
372 / 338 / Big Brother & The Holding Company - Cheap Thrills 1968
373 / new / Isaac Hayes - Hot Buttered Soul 1969
374 / re / Robert Johnson - King of the Delta Blues Singers 1961
375 / 193 / Green Day - Dookie 1994
376 / new / Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea 1998
377 / new / Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell 2003
378 / 242 / Run-D.M.C. - Run-D.M.C. 1983
379 / new / Rush - Moving Pictures 1981
380 / new / Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um 1959
381 / 403 / Lynyrd Skynyrd - (Pronounced 'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd) 1973
382 / new / Tame Impala - Currents 2015
383 / re / Massive Attack - Mezzanine 1998
384 / 258 / The Kinks - The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society 1969
385 / 106 / Ramones - Rocket to Russia 1977
386 / new / J Dilla - Donuts 2006
387 / 336 / Radiohead - In Rainbows 2007
388 / new / Aretha Franklin - Young, Gifted and Black 1972
389 / new / Mariah Carey - The Emancipation of Mimi 2005
390 / 317 / Pixies - Surfer Rosa 1988
391 / new / Kelis - Kaleidoscope 1999
392 / 214 / Ike & Tina Turner - Proud Mary: The Best of Ike and Tina Turner 1991
393 / new / Taylor Swift - 1989 2014
394 / new / Diana Ross - Diana 1980
395 / new / D'Angelo and the Vanguard - Black Messiah 2014
396 / 173 / Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything? 1972
397 / new / Billie Eilish - When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? 2019
398 / new / The Raincoats - The Raincoats 1979
399 / new / Brian Wilson - Smile 2004
400 / 414 / The Go-Go's - Beauty and the Beat 1981
401 / new / Blondie - Blondie 1977
402 / new / Fela Kuti & Africa 70 - Expensive Shit 1975
403 / new / Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele 2000
404 / new / Anita Baker - Rapture 1986
405 / 196 / Various Artists - Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era 1972
406 / 465 / The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs 1999
407 / 210 / Neil Young - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 1969
408 / new / Motörhead - Ace of Spades 1980
409 / 264 / Grateful Dead - Workingman's Dead 1970
410 / new / The Beach Boys - Wild Honey 1967
411 / 385 / Bob Dylan - Love and Theft 2001
412 / 273 / Smokey Robinson - Going to a Go Go 1965
413 / re / Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory 1970
414 / new / Chic - Risqué 1979
415 / 220 / The Meters - Looka Py Py 1969
416 / new / The Roots - Things Fall Apart 1999
417 / 248 / Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come 1959
418 / 352 / Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms 1985
419 / new / Eric Church - Chief 2011
420 / 486 / Earth, Wind & Fire - That's the Way of the World 1975
421 / new / M.I.A. - Arular 2005
422 / 165 / Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On 1973
423 / new / Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One 1997
424 / 306 / Beck - Odelay 1996
425 / 268 / Paul Simon - Paul Simon 1972
426 / new / Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams 1988
427 / 290 / Al Green - Call Me 1973
428 / 488 / Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising 1985
429 / new / The Four Tops - Reach Out 1967
430 / 168 / Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True 1977
431 / 455 / Los Lobos - How Will the Wolf Survive? 1984
432 / new / Usher - Confessions 2004
433 / 395 / LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver 2007
434 / 212 / Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain 1994
435 / new / Pet Shop Boys - Actually 1987
436 / new / 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 1996
437 / new / Primal Scream - Screamadelica 1991
438 / new / Blur - Parklife 1994
439 / new / James Brown - Sex Machine 1970
440 / new / Loretta Lynn - Coal Miner's Daughter 1971
441 / new / Britney Spears - Blackout 2007
442 / new / The Weeknd - Beauty Behind the Madness 2015
443 / new / David Bowie - Scary Monsters 1980
444 / new / Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine 2005
445 / new / Yes - Close to the Edge 1972
446 / new / Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda 1971
447 / new / Bad Bunny - X 100pre 2018
448 / 254 / Otis Redding - Dictionary of Soul 1966
449 / 390 / The White Stripes - Elephant 2003
450 / new / Paul & Linda McCartney - Ram 1971
451 / new / Roberta Flack - First Take 1969
452 / 423 / Diana Ross & The Supremes - Anthology 1974
453 / new / Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine 1989
454 / new / Can - Ege Bamyasi 1972
455 / 216 / Bo Diddley - Bo Diddley/Go Bo Diddley 1958
456 / 52 / Al Green - Greatest Hits 1975
457 / 408 / Sinéad O'Connor - I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got 1990
458 / new / Jason Isbell - Southeastern 2013
459 / new / Kid Cudi - Man on the Moon: The End of the Day 2019
460 / new / Lorde - Melodrama 2017
461 / new / Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago 2008
462 / 192 / The Flying Burrito Brothers - The Gilded Palace of Sin 1969
463 / new / Laura Nyro - Eli and the Thirteenth Confession 1968
464 / new / The Isley Brothers - 3x3 1973
465 / new / King Sunny Adé - The Best of the Classic Years 2003
466 / 271 / The Beach Boys - The Beach Boys Today! 1965
467 / new / Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night 2009
468 / 270 / The Rolling Stones - Some Girls 1978
469 / new / Manu Chao - Clandestino 1998
470 / new / Juvenile - 400 Degreez 1998
471 / 146 / Jefferson Airplane - Surrealistic Pillow 1967
472 / new / SZA - Ctrl 2017
473 / new / Daddy Yankee - Barrio Fino 2004
474 / 434 / Big Star - #1 Record 1972
475 / new / Sheryl Crow - Sheryl Crow 1996
476 / new / Sparks - Kimono My House 1974
477 / 154 / Howlin' Wolf - Moanin' in the Moonlight 1959
478 / 289 / The Kinks - Something Else by the Kinks 1968
479 / new / Selena - Amor Prohibido 1994
480 / new / Miranda Lambert - Weight of These Wings 2016
481 / new / Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister 1996
482 / new / The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde 1992
483 / 38 / Muddy Waters - The Anthology 2001
484 / new / Lady Gaga - Born This Way 2011
485 / 471 / Richard and Linda Thompson - I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight 1974
486 / new / John Mayer - Continuum 2006
487 / 340 / Black Flag - Damaged 1981
488 / 185 / The Stooges - The Stooges 1969
489 / 65 / Phil Spector & Various Artists - Back to Mono (1958-1969) 1991
490 / re / Linda Ronstadt - Heart Like a Wheel 1975
491 / new / Harry Styles - Fine Line 2019
492 / 230 / Bonnie Raitt - Nick of Time 1989
493 / 456 / Marvin Gaye - Here, My Dear 1978
494 / 422 / The Ronettes - Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes 1964
495 / new / Boyz II Men - II 1991
496 / new / Shakira - Dónde Están los Ladrones 1998
497 / 388 / Various Artists - The Indestructible Beat of Soweto 1985
498 / 441 / Suicide - Suicide 1977
499 / new / Rufus & Chaka Khan - Ask Rufus 1977
500 / 151 / Arcade Fire - Funeral 2004

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11 Elvis Presley - Sunrise 1999
22 Robert Johnson - The Complete Recordings 1990
39 The Beatles - Please Please Me 1963
59 Credence Clearwater Revival - Chronicles Vol. 1 1976
60 Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica 1969
102 Cream - Fresh Cream 1966
112 The Mamas And The Papas - If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears 1966
116 The Rolling Stones - Out of Our Heads 1965
124 Moby Grape - Moby Grape 1967
127 The Byrds - Younger Than Yesterday 1967
128 Iggy and The Stooges - Raw Power 1973
136 Elton John - Greatest Hits 1974
137 The Replacements - Tim 1985
139 The Meters - Rejuvenation 1974
142 Various Artists - A Christmas Gift for You from Philles Records/Phil Spector 1963
149 Santana - Santana 1969
158 Elton John - Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy 1975
161 Otis Redding - The Dock of the Bay 1968
164 Linda Ronstat - The Very Best Of 2002
166 Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Imperial Bedroom 1982
171 The Byrds - The Notorious Byrd Brothers 1968
174 Bob Dylan - Desire 1976
175 Carpenters - Close to You 1970
178 Curtis Mayfield And The Impressions - The Anthology - 1961-1977 1992
180 The Rolling Stones - No. 2/The Rolling Stones Now! 1965
181 Bob Marley and The Wailers - Natty Dread 1974
182 Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac 1975
186 Sly and the Family Stone - Fresh 1973
188 Buffalo Springfield - Buffalo Springfield Again 1967
189 Quicksilver Messenger Service - Happy Trails 1969
195 John Mayall - Blues Breakers with Eric Clapton 1966
198 The Best Of... - Little Walter - 1958
200 AC/DC - Highway to Hell 1979
202 Simon and Garfunkel - Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme 1966
204 Bob Dylan - Modern Times 2006
205 Cream - Wheels of Fire 1968
213 The Rolling Stones - Tattoo You 1981
217 Bobby Bland - Two Steps from the Blues 1961
222 New Orleans Piano - Professor Longhair 1972
223 U2 - War 1983
224 The Neil Diamond Collection - Neil Diamond 1999
229 Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic 1975
232 The Kinks - The Kink Kronikles 1972
234 Simon and Garfunkel - Bookends 1968
236 Jackie Wilson - Mr Excitement 1992
237 The Who - My Generation/The Who Sings My Generation 1965
238 Howlin' Wolf - Howlin' Wolf 1962
246 The Mothers of Invention - Freak Out! 1966
247 Grateful Dead - Live / Dead 1969
253 Bruce Springsteen - The River 1980
260 Willie Nelson - Stardust 1978
265 Ray Charles - The Genius of Ray Charles 1959
266 Blood, Sweat & Tears - Child Is Father to the Man 1968
267 The Who - Quadrophenia 1973
269 The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy 1985
274 Labelle - Nightbirds 1974
278 Harry Smith - Anthology Of American Music 1952
279 David Bowie - Aladdin Sane 1973
280 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind 2000
282 Muddy Waters - Folk Singer 1964
283 Barry White - Can't Get Enough 1974
288 Grateful Dead - Anthem of the Sun 1968
291 Talking Heads - Talking Heads: 77 1977
296 The Smiths - Meat Is Murder 1985
297 The Mothers of Invention - We're Only in It for the Money 1968
308 Frank Sinatra - Songs for Swingin' Lovers! 1956
311 Various Artists - The Sun Records Collection 1994
312 Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking 1988
318 The O'Jays - Back Stabbers 1972
319 The Wailers - Burnin' 1973
320 Radiohead - Amnesiac 2001
323 The Police - Ghost in the Machine 1981
325 Eric Clapton - Slowhand 1977
329 James Brown - In The Jungle Groove 1986
332 Richard and Linda Thompson - Shoot Out the Lights 1982
333 X - Wild Gift 1981
334 Graham Parker & The Rumour - Squeezing Out Sparks 1979
335 Soundgarden - Superunknown 1994
337 Jethro Tull - Aqualung 1971
339 Tom Waits - The Heart of Saturday Night 1974
341 Moby - Play 1991
343 Meat Loaf - Bat out of Hell 1977
344 Lou Reed - Berlin 1973
345 Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense 1984
348 Muddy Waters - Muddy Waters at Newport 1960 1960
350 Yardbirds - Yardbirds/Over Under Sideways Down/Roger the Engineer 1966
354 Billy Joel - 52nd Street 1978
355 Yardbirds - Five Live Yardbirds/Having a Rave Up with The Yardbirds 1964
356 Randy Newman - 12 Songs 1970
357 The Rolling Stones - Between the Buttons 1967
358 Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain 1960
363 New Order - Substance 1987
364 The Doors - L.A. Woman 1971
366 Johnny Cash - American Recordings 1994
369 The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs 1987
370 Mott the Hoople - Mott 1973
371 Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 2006
372 The Police - Reggatta de Blanc 1979
373 Jefferson Airplane - Volunteers 1969
374 Roxy Music - Siren 1975
375 Jackson Browne - Late for the Sky 1974
377 John Lee Hooker - The Ultimate Collection 1991
381 The Beach Boys - The SMiLE Sessions 2011
384 The Who - A Quick One 1966
386 Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic 1974
389 Don Henley - The End Of The Innocence 1989
391 Jackson Browne - The Pretender 1976
393 M.I.A. - Kala 2007
394 Randy Newman - Good Old Boys 1974
398 ZZ Top - Eliminator 1983
404 Dr. John - Dr. John's Gumbo 1972
409 The Doors - Strange Days 1967
410 Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind 1997
411 Eric Clapton - 461 Ocean Boulevard 1974
416 Tom Waits - Mule Variations 1999
417 U2 - Boy 1980
418 Paul McCartney and Wings - Band on the Run 1973
420 Buddy Holly And The Crickets - The "Chirping" Crickets 1957
421 Various Artists - The Best Of The Girl Groups Volumes 1 & 2 1990
424 Bruce Springsteen - The Rising 2002
425 Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel 1974
426 Cheap Trick - At Budokan 1978
427 Peter Wolf - Sleepless 2002
428 The Police - Outlandos D'Amour 1978
430 Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend 2008
436 Beck - Sea Change 2002
438 The Cure - Boys Don't Cry 1979
440 The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash 1985
443 Cheap Trick - In Color 1977
444 War - The World Is a Ghetto 1972
445 Steve Miller Band - Fly Like an Eagle 1976
446 MC5 - Back in the USA 1970
447 Stan Getz and João Gilberto - Getz/Gilberto 1964
450 Jackson Browne - For Everyman 1973
453 EPMD - Strictly Business 1988
454 Alice Cooper - Love It to Death 1971
457 My Morning Jacket - Z 2005
458 Elton John - Tumbleweed Connection 1970
459 The Drifters - Golden Hits 1968
461 Public Image Ltd. - Metal Box 1979
462 R.E.M. - Document 1987
463 Echo and the Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here 1981
464 Def Leppard - Hysteria 1987
467 Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love 1987
468 The Paul Butterfield Blues Band - The Paul Butterfield Blues Band 1968
470 LL Cool J - Radio 1985
473 The Smiths - The Smiths 1984
474 Manu Chao - ...próxima estación... Esperanza 2001
475 Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Armed Forces 1979
478 Loretta Lynn - All Time Greatest Hits 2002
482 Steve Earle - Guitar Town 1986
484 Mott the Hoople - All the Young Dudes 1972
485 Pearl Jam - Vitalogy 1994
489 Kiss - Destroyer 1976
490 ZZ Top - Tres Hombres 1973
491 Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign 1967
492 Eurythmics - Touch 1983
494 MGMT - Oracular Spectacular 2007
495 Bonnie Raitt - Give It Up 1972
496 Boz Scaggs - Boz Scaggs 1969
497 The White Stripes - White Blood Cells 2001
499 B.B. King - Live in Cook County Jail 1971
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StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:50 pm
Arsalan wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:29 am Teens of Denial and Blurryface(These 2 should not be called "One of the greatest of all time" anytime soon,but when i see some overrated albums from the same decade made the list i think why they didn't make it)
Blurryface kinda got a critical shrug and twenty one pilots aren’t as huge now as they were two or so years ago. I don’t think it would make any sense for them to be on the list.
You are right but when i see albums like "Fine Line", "Man on the Moon: The End of the Day","Weight of These Wings" and albums from My Chemical Romance and Shakira and many more undeserving non-all time great albums i am shocked cause Blurryface had more impact and was a big deal at the time of its release,Critics also gave positive reviews and it did well on EOD lists.
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God, this looks like it was put together by aliens compared to the usual Rolling Stone all-time lists. It reminds me of when I find a negative vintage review of a classic album -- I usually complain that critics don't think for themselves enough, then if I see a departure, I complain about that, too. It looks like a butting of two crowds, whereas Wenner and company used to just have the run of the place.
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Arsalan wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:30 pm
StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:50 pm
Arsalan wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:29 am Teens of Denial and Blurryface(These 2 should not be called "One of the greatest of all time" anytime soon,but when i see some overrated albums from the same decade made the list i think why they didn't make it)
Blurryface kinda got a critical shrug and twenty one pilots aren’t as huge now as they were two or so years ago. I don’t think it would make any sense for them to be on the list.
You are right but when i see albums like "Fine Line", "Man on the Moon: The End of the Day","Weight of These Wings" and albums from My Chemical Romance and Shakira and many more undeserving non-all time great albums i am shocked cause Blurryface had more impact and was a big deal at the time of its release,Critics also gave positive reviews and it did well on EOD lists.
I'm not sure how old you are, but as someone who was a teenager when they came out, I can confirm that The Black Parade and Man on the Moon... had an enormous impact upon youth culture when they were released. The Black Parade is without a doubt the defining album of the 2000s pop-emo scene, and Man on the Moon, with its features from Ratatat and MGMT, was instrumental in bridging the worlds of indie and hip-hop. I knew teenage indie fans who got into rap music almost solely because of that album.
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Yeah, I can think of lots of people my age who consider those albums generation-defining classics. Not so much Blurryface.
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Now that I see what’s been cut, obviously I have reservations (I’m always sad seeing Whatever People Say I Am... not getting its due), but also seeing how many albums are just compilations, arbitrary picks for famous artists, or albums I’ve pretty much only heard old school critics praise (like Happy Trails).
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Yeah, contesting Twenty One Pilots as a critically big deal or Blurryface as an EOD success (neither of which are quantifiably true) but saying My Chemical Romance or Shakira are undeserving/have had little impact is the dictionary definition of fan goggles.
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I’m mostly happy that it builds on the promise of those EOD lists. I am DYING to see what an updated songs list would look like.
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StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:30 pm Now that I see what’s been cut, obviously I have reservations (I’m always sad seeing Whatever People Say I Am... not getting its due), but also seeing how many albums are just compilations, arbitrary picks for famous artists, or albums I’ve pretty much only heard old school critics praise (like Happy Trails).
I agree that a lot of critics overpraise 2000s, usually all white made indie rock (I’m slowly going through AM’s list and after the Top 500 or so most 2000s rock just feels like rehashing Radiohead), but I wish they got rid of some of those damn compilations to add in some of the better indie rock albums! Like no xx, no Animal Collective? Only one Arcade Fire at 500? Why not? The ones that actually advance the genre of indie rock surely deserve a position!
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Nick wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:12 pm
Arsalan wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:30 pm
StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:50 pm

Blurryface kinda got a critical shrug and twenty one pilots aren’t as huge now as they were two or so years ago. I don’t think it would make any sense for them to be on the list.
You are right but when i see albums like "Fine Line", "Man on the Moon: The End of the Day","Weight of These Wings" and albums from My Chemical Romance and Shakira and many more undeserving non-all time great albums i am shocked cause Blurryface had more impact and was a big deal at the time of its release,Critics also gave positive reviews and it did well on EOD lists.
I'm not sure how old you are, but as someone who was a teenager when they came out, I can confirm that The Black Parade and Man on the Moon... had an enormous impact upon youth culture when they were released. The Black Parade is without a doubt the defining album of the 2000s pop-emo scene, and Man on the Moon, with its features from Ratatat and MGMT, was instrumental in bridging the worlds of indie and hip-hop. I knew teenage indie fans who got into rap music almost solely because of that album.
Wait a second,I think there is a misunderstood.Man on the Moon:The End of the Day is from Kid Cudi.Of Course i know how good MGMT is.I am saying The Black Parade is not as important as albums like Hybrid Theory or WPSIATWIN.I am 15 btw and my friends who are all fans of rap and pop know about Twenty One Pilots especially because of the songs from Blurryface. Again i think albums i mentioned are good but there were better albums out there to choose instead.
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Elder wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:04 pm 2020 vs. 2012
Basically the changes have been:

Some classic rock albums out
Less albums for artist with many appearences (and some substitutions).

More hip hop, r&b & soul albums
More females albums
Revisited albums from the last 20 years (less indie, more poptimism + previous features).
Some reivindications from 80s and 90s a la NME? (Kate Bush, Pulp, Primal Scream, etc)
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Arsalan wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:00 pm
Nick wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:12 pm I'm not sure how old you are, but as someone who was a teenager when they came out, I can confirm that The Black Parade and Man on the Moon... had an enormous impact upon youth culture when they were released. The Black Parade is without a doubt the defining album of the 2000s pop-emo scene, and Man on the Moon, with its features from Ratatat and MGMT, was instrumental in bridging the worlds of indie and hip-hop. I knew teenage indie fans who got into rap music almost solely because of that album.
Wait a second,I think there is a misunderstood.Man on the Moon:The End of the Day is from Kid Cudi.Of Course i know how good MGMT is.
The misunderstanding is yours, Arsalan - Nick is not saying Man on the Moon is by MGMT, he's mentioning (very clearly) that one of its tracks features MGMT.
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Ddiamondd wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:33 pm Yeah, contesting Twenty One Pilots as a critically big deal or Blurryface as an EOD success (neither of which are quantifiably true) but saying My Chemical Romance or Shakira are undeserving/have had little impact is the dictionary definition of fan goggles.
Let me get this whole thing clear,Getting 80 on metacritic means the album gained positive reviews and maybe i am wrong about EOD success but they were commercially successful too.I am saying again "Blurryface should not be on the list". My problem is with the phrase "Greatest of all time".Talking about MCR and Shakira and all those new albums from 2015-Now,Let me give you an example,If you want to make a list about 500 greatest movies of all time,Will you put "The Prestige" (same for the black parade)on the list? it is a good movie but top 500? or these new movies(Same for new albums from the second half of the 2010s) like "The Revenant" or "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" in 500 greatest of all time? Please.But i am 99 percent sure that you will put Se7en on your list(Same for Hybrid theory,Both weren't critically acclaimed upon their release) but after a while they got their attention, Se7en did and HT also has started being on some lists these days and it will gain more acclaim soon.

My problem is with the phrase,Putting new albums on the list and ignoring some important parts of the all time is not okay.
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Holden wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:36 pm
StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:30 pm Now that I see what’s been cut, obviously I have reservations (I’m always sad seeing Whatever People Say I Am... not getting its due), but also seeing how many albums are just compilations, arbitrary picks for famous artists, or albums I’ve pretty much only heard old school critics praise (like Happy Trails).
I agree that a lot of critics overpraise 2000s, usually all white made indie rock (I’m slowly going through AM’s list and after the Top 500 or so most 2000s rock just feels like rehashing Radiohead), but I wish they got rid of some of those damn compilations to add in some of the better indie rock albums! Like no xx, no Animal Collective? Only one Arcade Fire at 500? Why not? The ones that actually advance the genre of indie rock surely deserve a position!
The big snub I found was Illinois. I also can't recall if any Vampire Weekend made the cut, which would be bizarre if they didn't given how well-received Modern Vampires of the City was.
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Harold wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:20 pm
Arsalan wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:00 pm
Nick wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:12 pm I'm not sure how old you are, but as someone who was a teenager when they came out, I can confirm that The Black Parade and Man on the Moon... had an enormous impact upon youth culture when they were released. The Black Parade is without a doubt the defining album of the 2000s pop-emo scene, and Man on the Moon, with its features from Ratatat and MGMT, was instrumental in bridging the worlds of indie and hip-hop. I knew teenage indie fans who got into rap music almost solely because of that album.
Wait a second,I think there is a misunderstood.Man on the Moon:The End of the Day is from Kid Cudi.Of Course i know how good MGMT is.
The misunderstanding is yours, Arsalan - Nick is not saying Man on the Moon is by MGMT, he's mentioning (very clearly) that one of its tracks features MGMT.
My Bad,I realized it but i was replying to another comment.I was going to edit it.
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StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:48 pm I also can't recall if any Vampire Weekend made the cut, which would be bizarre if they didn't given how well-received Modern Vampires of the City was.
MVotC is #328.
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Definitely a lot to parse through, but my immediate reactions:

Definitely more diverse, which is heading in the right direction. I do love seeing To Pimp a Butterfly over Sgt Pepper, and agree with Abbey Road as the highest Beatles entry.

Some surprises with most recent entries - I don’t have a particular issue with Harry Styles, but it feels a little soon.
Glad to see more women, but we still have a ways to go there.

Definitely English language-centric

Agree it would be great to see some jazz, but has Rolling Stone ever included jazz albums? I’d also prefer that they also consider musicals, but they are even more frequently ignored. I think someone would be hard pressed to convince me that West Side Story (among others) is not one of the greatest albums of all time.

Why are compilations allowed?

Finally, personal preferences: Am I the only one surprised that Talking Heads “Fear of Music” has missed the past two lists while “More Songs About Buildings and Food” is included? I love both, but always considered FOM superior. Bummed Janelle Monae “The Archandroid,” St. Vincent “Strange Mercy,” and Rickie Lee Jones “Pirates” did not make the list. Also sad to see the Mamas and the Papas dropped out. That album is a favorite of mine. The Byrds already have 2 entries, but my favorite 2 albums are the “Notorious Byrd Brothers” and “Younger Than Yesterday.” Prince is well represented, but would love to see “Parade.” Perhaps it was Pitchfork that convinced me the Shins “Chutes Too Narrow” should be on all lists, but I do love that album. Finally, “Wild Honey” is an interesting 3rd Beach Boys pick, but would prefer “The Smile Sessions” reinstated or “Surfs Up” or “Sunflower.”
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Some more stray observations:
- I'm happy seeing some albums return that were cut the last time around, although I find it odd that Jagged Little Pill even warranted a cut at any point.
- I'm just trying to imagine being a critic and putting a compilation album on my all-time list. What would it say about you that you'd count a compilation album over an actual album? My caveat would be if the compilation itself had reached a mythical status as an album (so, for instance, I have no qualms with Singles Going Steady or Nuggets being on the list).
- I find it really odd that Parklife and Hounds of Love have never made the cut on any version of the list before this.
- I don't think I have to tell you that I'm quite pleased with Songs in the Key of Life getting a well-deserved spot in the top 5! :)
- I'm a giant Smiths fan, but I'm honestly not heartbroken that The Queen is Dead is their only album left. One, it's still higher than it was before, and two, it's probably their best album statement. I enjoy the Smiths' albums, but their reputation really was solidified as a consistent singles act, and at least a couple of their heyday albums are just singles collections. I'd even argue that Louder Than Bombs and Hatful of Hollow are stronger as albums than Meat is Murder, and even then it would feel odd seeing them on this list. I guarantee you, if/when the songs list is updated, there are going to be way more than two Smiths songs and they're going to be way higher than the bottom 100, because their influence is a lot clearer on the last two generations of alt-rock acts than it was for the people who compiled the last two lists.
- Big artist snubs: Foo Fighters, Soundgarden, Slayer (multiple metal acts voted and got Master of Puppets into the top 100 but no love for Reign in Blood?), The Killers (at least for Hot Fuss), Genesis (at least for The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway)
- Really, it feels like a happy medium between NME, who overrate new stuff, and Rolling Stone, who overrate old stuff. You mush their lists together, add some new stuff, you've more or less got this list. I'm fine with that.
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Harold wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:56 pm
StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:48 pm I also can't recall if any Vampire Weekend made the cut, which would be bizarre if they didn't given how well-received Modern Vampires of the City was.
MVotC is #328.
That sounds about right. I also forgot that both earlier versions of the song list had entries that were less than a year old (Hey Ya! on the 2004 list, Moment of Surrender on the 2010 list, and I can see one of those songs clearly sticking around and moving up and the other, if they have any sense of musical significance whatsoever, disappearing without a trace.)
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StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:02 pm I also forgot that both earlier versions of the song list had entries that were less than a year old (Hey Ya! on the 2004 list, Moment of Surrender on the 2010 list, and I can see one of those songs clearly sticking around and moving up and the other, if they have any sense of musical significance whatsoever, disappearing without a trace.)
Whoa, that's uncalled for. A lot of people like Hey Ya!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Yeah, that U2 choice stuck out like an entire hand full of sore thumbs at the time. For the life of me I cannot recall a single thing about the song.
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Harold wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:25 pm
StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:02 pm I also forgot that both earlier versions of the song list had entries that were less than a year old (Hey Ya! on the 2004 list, Moment of Surrender on the 2010 list, and I can see one of those songs clearly sticking around and moving up and the other, if they have any sense of musical significance whatsoever, disappearing without a trace.)
Whoa, that's uncalled for. A lot of people like Hey Ya!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Yeah, that U2 choice stuck out like an entire hand full of sore thumbs at the time. For the life of me I cannot recall a single thing about the song.
Its placement was the oddest part - directly ahead of songs like Bohemian Rhapsody, Nothing Compares 2 U, and Folsom Prison Blues, one spot behind Rock Around the Clock. They also included it over Where the Streets Have No Name, which I could honestly see placing that high with little complaint. It’s not a bad song, but it definitely isn’t that good. I only remember it because I listened to it a bunch of times to figure out what about it was good enough to warrant placing that high.
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Harold wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:00 pm Thanks for getting this transcribed so quickly!

I did jump straight to the top 50 when I visited the RS website. I'm sure the rest of the list will confirm the initial impression that this is a fascinating and frustrating effort by RS to revamp the canon (I have no doubt they're already receiving hate from old-school fans just for dropping Sgt. Pepper's... to #24, and their new #1 is a really interesting choice although it would not have been mine) while still remaining Rolling Stone. It's certain to generate much debate, in a way RS hasn't been able to for quite a while.

Next question re: music sources not as relevant as they once were: when will Pitchfork finally do an all-time top 500 list?
Well, "they" didn't drop anyone. The list was created from lists by artists and other industry people. RS just compiled it.
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Arsalan wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:47 pm
Ddiamondd wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:33 pm Yeah, contesting Twenty One Pilots as a critically big deal or Blurryface as an EOD success (neither of which are quantifiably true) but saying My Chemical Romance or Shakira are undeserving/have had little impact is the dictionary definition of fan goggles.
Let me get this whole thing clear,Getting 80 on metacritic means the album gained positive reviews and maybe i am wrong about EOD success but they were commercially successful too.I am saying again "Blurryface should not be on the list". My problem is with the phrase "Greatest of all time".Talking about MCR and Shakira and all those new albums from 2015-Now,Let me give you an example,If you want to make a list about 500 greatest movies of all time,Will you put "The Prestige" (same for the black parade)on the list? it is a good movie but top 500? or these new movies(Same for new albums from the second half of the 2010s) like "The Revenant" or "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" in 500 greatest of all time? Please.But i am 99 percent sure that you will put Se7en on your list(Same for Hybrid theory,Both weren't critically acclaimed upon their release) but after a while they got their attention, Se7en did and HT also has started being on some lists these days and it will gain more acclaim soon.

My problem is with the phrase,Putting new albums on the list and ignoring some important parts of the all time is not okay.
With all due respect I have to disagree. There are lots of cases where you listen to an album, hypothetically, the day it comes out and instantly know it’s a classic (Fetch The Bolt Cutters is an example of one which has came out this year) that’s why, for example, To Pimp A Butterfly and Lemonade are (rightfully) ranked so high. Older albums didn’t matter because these albums had the same musical impact that other “canon” works did that were released earlier.

Also it’s important to re-evaluate “classics” that were held in high esteem at the time but who’s musical quality are now seen as highly overrated. It’s appalling to expect an all-time list in 2020 to look like one that came out in 2003, or much less 1969 for example.
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In a way I'd rather see the individual Top 50 lists. It would certainly be interesting to see which artists voted for themselves. :whistle:
The write-up in no way states that the final list is ordered by the points received. It just says that more than 300 people helped and that their choices received points. Obviously I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if they recalibrated the list.
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Schüttelbirne wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:14 pm In a way I'd rather see the individual Top 50 lists.
I know six albums that probably didn't make Taylor Swift's list...
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Just for fun I took a look at the Rolling Stone Germany list from 2004 to see which albums from that one didn't appear in any of the american lists. It's amazing how much it covers. Almost as amazing as their love for Elvis Costello.

ABBA- Arrival
Abwärts- Amok Koma
AC/DC- Let There Be Rock
AC/DC- High Voltage
Adam Green- Friends Of Mine
Aerosmith- Pump
Aimee Mann- Bachelor No. 2
Augustus Pablo- King Tubby Meets The Rockers Uptown
Beastie Boys- Ill Communication
Beck- Mellow Gold
Belle & Sebastian- The Boy With The Arab Strap
Bettie Seveert- Palomine
Billy Joel- Songs In The Attic
Björk- Debut
Blackmail- Bliss, Please
Blind Faith- Blind Faith
Blondie- Eat To The Beat
Blumfeld- Old Nobody
Blumfeld- L’Etat Et Moi
Blur- Modern Life Is Rubbish
Bob Dylan- Nashville Skyline
Bob Dylan- New Morning
Bon Jovi- Slippery When Wet
Bonnie ’Prince’ Billy- I See A Darkness
Brian Eno- Before And After Science
Built To Spill- Perfect From Now On
Calexico- The Black Light
Can- Tago Mago
Captain Beefheart- Safe As Milk
Coldplay- Parachutes
Cowboy Junkies- The Caution Horses
Crowded House- Together Alone
DAF- Die Kleinen und die Bösen
Danzig- Danzig
David Bowie- Heroes
David Sylvian- Brilliant Trees
Dead Kennedys- Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
Deep Purple- In Rock
Depeche Mode- Music For The Masses
Depeche Mode- Songs Of Faith And Devotion
Der Plan- Geri Reig
Descendents- Milo Goes To College
Dexy’s Midnight Runners- Searching For The Young Soul Rebels
Dire Straits- Dire Straits
Donald Fagen- The Nightfly
Electric Light Orchestra- The Very Best Of
Element Of Crime- Weißes Papier
Element Of Crime- Damals hinterm Mond
Elvis Costello- Brutal Youth
Elvis Costello & Burt Bacharach- Painted From Memory
Elvis Costello and The Attractions- Blood & Chocolate
Elvis Costello and The Attractions- Get Happy!!
Elvis Costello and The Attractions- Punch The Clock
Elvis Costello ft. The Attractions and Confederates- King Of America
Elvis Presley- 68 Comeback Special
Eric Burdon- Declares ’War’
Faith No More- The Real Thing
Fatboy Slim- You’ve Come A Long Way, Baby
Fehlfarben- Monarchie und Alltag
Frank Sinatra- Come Fly With Me
Frank Zappa- Absolutely Free
Franz Ferdinand- Franz Ferdinand
Galaxie 500- On Fire
George Jones- Alone Again
Gram Parsons- GP
Gun Club- Fire Of Love
Gun Club- Miami
Guns N’ Roses- Use Your Illusion
Henry Mancini- Breakfast At Tiffany’s
Herbert Grönemeyer- Mensch
Hüsker Dü- Zen Arcade
Iggy Pop- Lust For Life
James Chance & The Contortions- Buy!
Joe Henry- Trampoline
Joe Jackson- I’m The Man
John Cale Paris- 1919
John Cale- Music For A New Society
John Cale- Fear
John Lennon- Walls & Bridges
Johnny Moped- Cycledelic
Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers- L.A.M.F.
Joni Mitchell- Ladies Of The Canyon
Joy Division- Substance
Kate Bush- The Kick Inside
Kettcar- Du und wieviel von deinen Freunden
King Crimson- Larks Tongues In Aspic
King Crimson- In The Court Of The Crimson King
Kraftwerk- Die Mensch-Maschine
Kraftwerk- Computerwelt
Kraftwerk- Autobahn
Kruder & Dorfmeister- The K & D Sessions
Kyuss- Welcome To Sky Valley
Led Zeppelin- Led Zeppelin III
Lenny Kravitz- Mama Said
Leonard Cohen- Songs Of Love And Hate
Leonard Cohen- Songs From A Room
Little Feat- Sailin’ Shoes
Little Feat- Dixie Chicken
Live- Throwing Copper
Lou Reed- New York
Lou Reed- Coney Island Baby
Low- Secret Name
Lyle Lovett- Pontiac
Madness- One Step Beyond
Madness- Keep Moving
Madness- Absolutely
Manic Street Preachers- Everything Must Go
Manic Street Preachers- This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours
Mark Hollis- Mark Hollis
Mazzy Star- So Tonight That I Might See
Metallica- Kill ’Em All
Metallica- ...And Justice For All
Metallica- Ride The Lightning
Midnight Oil- Blue Sky Mining
Morcheba- Big Calm
Motörhead- Overkill
Motörhead- No Sleep ’Til Hammersmith
Neil Young- Weld
Neil Young- Freedom
Neil Young- Zuma
Neu!- Neu!
New Model Army- The Ghost Of Cain
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds- Tender Prey
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds- No More Shall We Part
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds- The Good Son
Nina Hagen- Nina Hagen Band
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band- Will The Circle Be Unbroken
Orange Juice- You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever
Patti Smith- Easter
Paul Simon- Still Crazy After All These Years
Paul Simon- One-Trick Pony
Pearl Jam- Yield
Pere Ubu- The Modern Dance
Pink Floyd- Animals
Placebo- Without You I’m Nothing
Prefab Sprout- Steve McQueen
Prince- Around The World In A Day
Prince- Parade
Procol Harum- Shine On Brightly
Public Image Ltd.- Public Image Ltd.
Queens Of The Stone Age- Queens Of The Stone Age
Queensrÿche- Operation Mindcrime
R.E.M.- Green
R.E.M.- Out Of Time
R.E.M.- Lifes Rich Pageant
R.E.M.- Reveal
R.E.M.- Monster
Randy Newman- Little Criminals
Randy Newman- Good Old Boys
Randy Newman- Born Again
Randy Newman- Land Of Dreams
Red Hot Chili Peppers- By The Way
Richard Hell & The Voidoids- Blank Generation
Rickie Lee Jones- Rickie Lee Jones
Robert Wyatt- Rock Bottom
Roxy Music- Roxy Music
Ry Cooder- Paradise & Lunch
Ryan Adams- Gold
Scott Walker- Scott 4
Scott Walker- Tilt
Scott Walker- Scott 3
Scott Walker- Scott
Sepultura- Roots
Serge Gainsbourg- L’histoire De Melody Nelson
Slayer- Reign In Blood
Spirit- Spirit Of ’76
Steely Dan- Gaucho
Stereo MC’s- Connected
Stiff Little Fingers- Inflammable Material
Syd Barrett- The Madcap Laughs
Talk Talk- Laughing Stock
Talk Talk- Spirit Of Eden
Talk Talk- The Colour Of Spring
Talking Heads- Fear Of Music
Tangerine Dream- Phaedra
Television- Television
Temple Of The Dog- Temple Of The Dog
The Beach Boys- Surf’s Up
The Boys- Alternative Chartbusters
The Byrds- Fifth Dimension
The Clash- Combat Rock
The Cult- Sonic Temple
The Cure- Seventeen Seconds
The Cure- Pornography
The Cure- The Cure
The Cure- The Head On The Door
The Doors- Morrison Hotel
The Feelies- Crazy Rhythms
The Incredible String Band- The Hangman’s Beautiful Daughter
The Jam- All Mod Cons
The Jam- Setting Sons
The Jam- In The City
The Jayhawks- Hollywood Town Hall
The Kinks- Lola Vs. The Powerman And The Moneygoround
The Kinks- Muswell Hillbillies
The Kinks- Face To Face
The Lemonheads- It’s A Shame About Ray
The Libertines- Up The Bracket
The Prodigy- The Fat Of The Land
The Replacements- Pleased To Meet Me
The Small Faces- Ogdens’ Nut Gone Flake
The Smiths- Hatful Of Hollow
The Specials- The Specials
The Stranglers- No More Heroes
The The- Soul Mining
The Undertones- The Undertones
The Verve- Urban Hymns
Them- Them
Thin Lizzy- Live And Dangerous
Tim Buckley- Greetings From L.A.
Tim Buckley- Blue Afternoon
Tim Buckley- Happy/Sad
Tindersticks- Tindersticks
Tindersticks- Second Album
Tocotronic- Digital ist besser
Tom Petty- Into The Great Wide Open
Tom Petty- Southern Accents
Tom Waits- Swordfishtrombones
Tool- Aenima
Townes Van Zandt- Our Mother The Mountain
Townes Van Zandt- For The Sake Of The Song
Travis- The Man Who
Trio- Trio
Turbonegro- Apocalypse Dudes
Turbonegro- Ass Cobra
U2- The Unforgettable Fire
Udo Lindenberg- Alles klar auf der Andrea Doria
Van Dyke Parks- Song Cycle
Van Halen- 5150
Van Morrison- Veedon Fleece
Violent Femmes- Violent Femmes
Warren Zevon- The Wind
Ween- Chocolate & Cheese
Wilco- Summerteeth
Wire- Chairs Missing
XTC- English Settlement
Young Marble Giants- Colossal Youth

- Scott Walker, Nick Cave, King Crimson, Tim Buckley, Deep Purple, Madness, The Verve, The Prodigy, Fatboy Slim, Thin Lizzy, The Specials, John Cale, Manic Street Preachers, The Jam, ELO, Slayer, Little Feat, Augustus Pablo, Talk Talk, Dead Kennedys, Serge Gainsbourg, Robert Wyatt, freaking Van Dyke Parks! All of them completely ignored in the american lists are in here.
- There are some nice alternatives for the big names too: Surf's Up, Parade, Songs of Faith and Devotion, The Unforgettable Fire, Fear of Music, Pornography, Animals, Ill Communication...
- More Kate Bush, Metallica, Motörhead, Lou Reed, Depeche Mode, Blur, Patti Smith...
- Of course german acts get a huge bump.
- It's funny to see the germans putting George Jones, Ricky Lee Jones and The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band on ther list before the americans.
- There are a few blunders like The Man Who or 5150 (Why not another David album?) but nothing big. I actually like seeing Slippery When Wet there.

If you were to combine all the RS lists you'd have a really sweet selection of almost 1,000 albums,
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I strongly dislike Nick Cave’s complete absence.
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Thanks for the data post by Elder, here are some facts about the new list comparing to 2012 version:

New entries: 154 albums.

19 / Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly 2015
32 / Beyoncé - Lemonade 2016
68 / Kate Bush - Hounds of Love 1985
79 / Frank Ocean - Blonde 2016
81 / Beyoncé - Beyoncé 2013
89 / Erykah Badu - Baduizm 1997
93 / Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott - Supa Dupa Fly 1997
95 / Drake - Take Care 2011
99 / Taylor Swift - Red 2012
108 / Fiona Apple - When the Pawn... 1999
111 / Janet Jackson - Control 1986
115 / Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city 2012
133 / Joni Mitchell - Hejira 1976
137 / Adele - 21 2011
148 / Frank Ocean - Channel Orange 2012
154 / Aretha Franklin - Amazing Grace 1972
158 / Erykah Badu - Mama's Gun 2000
162 / Pulp - Different Class 1995
175 / Kendrick Lamar - DAMN. 2017
183 / D'Angelo - Brown Sugar 1995
187 / Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted 1990
196 / Robyn - Body Talk 2010
200 / Sade - Diamond Life 1984
201 / A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders 1993
202 / Bj?rk - Homogenic 1997
204 / Kanye West - Graduation 2007
211 / Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures 1980
212 / Nina Simone - Wild Is the Wind 1966
213 / Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel... 2012
214 / Tom Petty - Wildflowers 1994
216 / Elliott Smith - Either
217 / Oasis - Definitely Maybe 1994
224 / Dixie Chicks - Fly 1999
228 / De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead 1991
230 / Rihanna - Anti 2016
233 / Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes 1992
236 / Daft Punk - Discovery 2001
244 / Kanye West - 808s & Heartbreak 2008
245 / Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas 1990
246 / LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out 1991
247 / Sade - Love Deluxe 1992
254 / Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters 1973
258 / Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns 1975
260 / The Slits - Cut 1979
261 / Beastie Boys - Check Your Head 1992
262 / New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies 1983
265 / Pavement - Wowee Zowee 1995
269 / Kanye West - Yeezus 2013
270 / Kacey Musgraves - Golden Hour 2018
271 / Mary J. Blige - What's the 411? 1992
275 / Curtis Mayfield - Curtis 1970
277 / Alicia Keys - The Diary of Alicia Keys 2003
280 / 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin' 2002
281 / Harry Nilsson - Nilsson Schmilsson 1971
283 / Donna Summer - Bad Girls 1975
290 / OutKast - Speakerboxxx
291 / Destiny's Child - The Writing's on the Wall 1999
293 / The Breeders - Last Splash 1993
295 / Daft Punk - Random Access Memories 2013
298 / Tom Petty - Full Moon Fever 1989
300 / Shania Twain - Come On Over 1997
304 / Bill Withers - Just As I Am 1971
311 / Neil Young - On the Beach 1974
312 / Solange - A Seat at the Table 2016
314 / Aaliyah - One in a Million 1996
315 / Rosalía - El Mal Querer 2018
317 / Billie Holiday - Lady in Satin 1958
321 / Lana Del Rey - Norman Fucking Rockwell! 2019
328 / Vampire Weekend - Modern Vampires of the City 2013
329 / DJ Shadow - Endtroducing... 1996
333 / Bill Withers - Still Bill 1972
340 / Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle 1993
346 / Arctic Monkeys - AM 2013
347 / GZA - Liquid Swords 1995
348 / Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator) 2001
354 / X-Ray Spex - Germfree Adolescents 1978
358 / Sonic Youth - Goo 1990
361 / My Chemical Romance - The Black Parade 2006
362 / Luther Vandross - Never Too Much 1981
365 / Madvillain - Madvillainy 2004
367 / Drake - If You're Reading This It's Too Late 2015
369 / Mobb Deep - The Infamous 1995
370 / Lil Wayne - Tha Carter II 2005
373 / Isaac Hayes - Hot Buttered Soul 1969
376 / Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea 1998
377 / Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell 2003
379 / Rush - Moving Pictures 1981
380 / Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um 1959
382 / Tame Impala - Currents 2015
386 / J Dilla - Donuts 2006
388 / Aretha Franklin - Young, Gifted and Black 1972
389 / Mariah Carey - The Emancipation of Mimi 2005
391 / Kelis - Kaleidoscope 1999
393 / Taylor Swift - 1989 2014
394 / Diana Ross - Diana 1980
395 / D'Angelo and the Vanguard - Black Messiah 2014
397 / Billie Eilish - When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? 2019
398 / The Raincoats - The Raincoats 1979
399 / Brian Wilson - Smile 2004
401 / Blondie - Blondie 1977
402 / Fela Kuti & Africa 70 - Expensive Shit 1975
403 / Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele 2000
404 / Anita Baker - Rapture 1986
408 / Mot?rhead - Ace of Spades 1980
410 / The Beach Boys - Wild Honey 1967
414 / Chic - Risqué 1979
416 / The Roots - Things Fall Apart 1999
419 / Eric Church - Chief 2011
421 / M.I.A. - Arular 2005
423 / Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One 1997
426 / Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams 1988
429 / The Four Tops - Reach Out 1967
432 / Usher - Confessions 2004
435 / Pet Shop Boys - Actually 1987
436 / 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 1996
437 / Primal Scream - Screamadelica 1991
438 / Blur - Parklife 1994
439 / James Brown - Sex Machine 1970
440 / Loretta Lynn - Coal Miner's Daughter 1971
441 / Britney Spears - Blackout 2007
442 / The Weeknd - Beauty Behind the Madness 2015
443 / David Bowie - Scary Monsters 1980
444 / Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine 2005
445 / Yes - Close to the Edge 1972
446 / Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda 1971
447 / Bad Bunny - X 100pre 2018
450 / Paul & Linda McCartney - Ram 1971
451 / Roberta Flack - First Take 1969
453 / Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine 1989
454 / Can - Ege Bamyasi 1972
458 / Jason Isbell - Southeastern 2013
459 / Kid Cudi - Man on the Moon: The End of the Day 2019
460 / Lorde - Melodrama 2017
461 / Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago 2008
463 / Laura Nyro - Eli and the Thirteenth Confession 1968
464 / The Isley Brothers - 3x3 1973
465 / King Sunny Adé - The Best of the Classic Years 2003
467 / Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night 2009
469 / Manu Chao - Clandestino 1998
470 / Juvenile - 400 Degreez 1998
472 / SZA - Ctrl 2017
473 / Daddy Yankee - Barrio Fino 2004
475 / Sheryl Crow - Sheryl Crow 1996
476 / Sparks - Kimono My House 1974
479 / Selena - Amor Prohibido 1994
480 / Miranda Lambert - Weight of These Wings 2016
481 / Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister 1996
482 / The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde 1992
484 / Lady Gaga - Born This Way 2011
486 / John Mayer - Continuum 2006
491 / Harry Styles - Fine Line 2019
495 / Boyz II Men - II 1991
496 / Shakira - Dónde Están los Ladrones 1998
499 / Rufus & Chaka Khan - Ask Rufus 1977

Re-entry: 8 albums.

69 / Alanis Morrissette - Jagged Little Pill 1995
78 / Elvis Presley - The Sun Sessions 1976
239 / Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded 1987
336 / Roxy Music - Avalon 1982
374 / Robert Johnson - King of the Delta Blues Singers 1961
383 / Massive Attack - Mezzanine 1998
413 / Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory 1970
490 / Linda Ronstadt - Heart Like a Wheel 1975

Biggest jump (new entries excluded):

2020 / 2012 / entry / jump
28 / 481 / D'Angelo - Voodoo 2000 / 453
49 / 500 / OutKast - Aquemini 1998 / 451
33 / 451 / Amy Winehouse - Back to Black 2006 / 418
27 / 387 / Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) 1993 / 360
44 / 402 / Nas - Illmatic 1994 / 358
106 / 460 / Hole - Live Through This 1994 / 354
136 / 479 / Funkadelic - Maggot Brain 1971 / 343
17 / 353 / Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 2010 / 336
134 / 469 / Fugees - The Score 1996 / 335
151 / 472 / George Michael - Faith 1987 / 321

Biggest drops (out of the list excluded):

483 / 38 / Muddy Waters - The Anthology 2001 / -445
489 / 65 / Phil Spector & Various Artists - Back to Mono (1958-1969) 1991 / -424
456 / 52 / Al Green - Greatest Hits 1975 / -404
500 / 151 / Arcade Fire - Funeral 2004 / -349
471 / 146 / Jefferson Airplane - Surrealistic Pillow 1967 / -325
477 / 154 / Howlin' Wolf - Moanin' in the Moonlight 1959 / -323
488 / 185 / The Stooges - The Stooges 1969 / -303
343 / 61 / Sly & the Family Stone - Greatest Hits 1970 / -282
385 / 106 / Ramones - Rocket to Russia 1977 / -279
332 / 56 / Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley 1956 / -276
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They picked the wrong Maxwell album. Urban Hang Suite blows BlackSummersNight out of the water. That album is so perfect. I used to take road trips and could play that entire album without skipping a song.

Wrong The Weeknd album also, House of Balloons over the inconsistent Beauty Behind The Madness. So frustrating.

If they were going to pick a Ghostface album at least they got the right one and didn't fall for the okey doke by picking Ironman. Good album but Supreme Clientele is a masterpiece.

Take Care is way too high probably shouldn't be on the list. I love the album but I don't even know if it would be in my top 100 hip hop albums of all time. Black on Both Sides, Death Certificate, or Be should replace it.

Would have like to have seen another Missy album in it's place like Miss E...So Addictive.

Wasn't a big fan of Frank Ocean's Blond. I can see why Rolling Stone picked it. It seems like one of those picks where 'we wanna be cool, hip, trendy, ahead of the curve' type picks.

I will always pick Good Kid, M.a.a.d. City over any other Kendrick album.

And Harry Styles Fine Line :angry-banghead:
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bootsy wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:52 am They picked the wrong Maxwell album. Urban Hang Suite blows BlackSummersNight out of the water. That album is so perfect. I used to take road trips and could play that entire album without skipping a song.

Wrong The Weeknd album also, House of Balloons over the inconsistent Beauty Behind The Madness. So frustrating.
So much YES. On what planet is BLACKsummersnight is better than Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite? The latter is a masterclass in atmosphere building, songwriting and instrumentation. Even at its best, the former has nothing as irresistibly groovy as "Ascension (Don't Ever Wonder)" and its most solid ballad does not stand a chance against the stunning "Whenever Wherever Whatever". Fun fact: Maxwell's "Whenever Wherever Whatever" is one of the most covered songs by Korean male R&B singers and this album plays a significant role in establishing the early neo-soul scene there.

Very happy to see Voodoo by D'Angelo so high in the list. It deserves all the accolades and praises.

Also, love seeing the inclusion of Confessions by Usher, The Emancipation of Mimi by Mariah Carey who does not get enough credit as a songwriter
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Robert Christgau wrote a little bit about the process of making his list. He includes his personal Top 50, as well as the Top 50 of Carola Dibbell (his wife, and another RS 500 voter), and a list of the listening "homework" they completed before compiling their submissions.

https://robertchristgau.substack.com/p/ ... s-on-lists

I wish RS would include the personal lists that were submitted. I always enjoy when publications like the AVClub do this...it's a fun way to be introduced to more obscure personal favorites that might not make the official list.
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Interesting Christgau remark for assigning points to a 50 album list:
Let me add that I assume you’re not so foolish as to go 50 [points] down to 1; 100 down to 51 would make much more sense, because we obviously don’t like our favorite 50 times as much as the one that squeaked in last though we may like it twice as much.
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I knew I liked Christgau before, and I like him even more now that I know he voted for Gogol Bordello. He has compilations on his list, sure, but at least he justifies them well enough.
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No Blackstar? Like the Grammys, RS has now lost all credibility with me.
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Kingoftonga wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:21 pm Robert Christgau wrote a little bit about the process of making his list. He includes his personal Top 50, as well as the Top 50 of Carola Dibbell (his wife, and another RS 500 voter), and a list of the listening "homework" they completed before compiling their submissions.

https://robertchristgau.substack.com/p/ ... s-on-lists

I wish RS would include the personal lists that were submitted. I always enjoy when publications like the AVClub do this...it's a fun way to be introduced to more obscure personal favorites that might not make the official list.
His wife voted for a LOT of the same albums that he did, including some more esoteric picks (the Tom Ze comp, Rolling Stones Now!, How I Got Over, etc.). It's almost like he had two votes!

I find it amusing how such a famous rock critic is so dismissive of Pet Sounds - his take almost reads like he wrote it off a long time ago. He's only had five decades to catch up to the rest of us...

I do mostly agree with his take on What's Going On:
I’m replaying the poll-topping What’s Going On as I write and as happens every fucking time I give it another chance am tuning out as the strings of the otherwise obscure David Van De Pitte swallow such mediocre songs as “Flyin’ High” and “Right On.” “What’s Going On,” “Mercy Mercy Me,” “Inner City Blues”? Stone masterpieces, all three—brilliant and even earth-shaking, I mean it. The rest? Well-meant filler.
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Live in Phoenix wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:23 pm Interesting Christgau remark for assigning points to a 50 album list:
Let me add that I assume you’re not so foolish as to go 50 [points] down to 1; 100 down to 51 would make much more sense, because we obviously don’t like our favorite 50 times as much as the one that squeaked in last though we may like it twice as much.
Ultimately this wouldn't change the final list though, everything would've gained 50 points per vote equally.
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Listyguy wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:41 am
Live in Phoenix wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:23 pm Interesting Christgau remark for assigning points to a 50 album list:
Let me add that I assume you’re not so foolish as to go 50 [points] down to 1; 100 down to 51 would make much more sense, because we obviously don’t like our favorite 50 times as much as the one that squeaked in last though we may like it twice as much.
Ultimately this wouldn't change the final list though, everything would've gained 50 points per vote equally.
I noticed that Rolling Stone's own system below doesn't end on 1 point, it ends on 44...Should every point system just end on 1 point? (Like why not give everything 43 less points, and make the #1 album 257 points? But then a #1 album is 257 times better than a #50 album. Statistics 101 stumpers :angry-banghead:)
Voters were asked to submit ranked ballots listing their 50 favorite albums of all time. Votes were tabulated, with the highest-ranked album on each list receiving 300 points, the second highest 290 points, and so on down to 44 points for number 50.
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Daniel wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:23 pm No Blackstar? Like the Grammys, RS has now lost all credibility with me.
I'm actually shocked they didn't include this. That should have been a slam dunk.
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Listyguy wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:41 am
Live in Phoenix wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:23 pm Interesting Christgau remark for assigning points to a 50 album list:
Let me add that I assume you’re not so foolish as to go 50 [points] down to 1; 100 down to 51 would make much more sense, because we obviously don’t like our favorite 50 times as much as the one that squeaked in last though we may like it twice as much.
Ultimately this wouldn't change the final list though, everything would've gained 50 points per vote equally.
It would make a big difference. Say Album A gets 1 first place vote and Album B gets two 50th place votes.

On a scale of 50-1,
A gets 50 points and B gets 2 points

But if the scale goes from 100-51,
A gets 100 points and B gets 102

Album A goes from being 25x stronger in scenario A to a tiny bit weaker in scenario B
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Jackson wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:58 pm
His wife voted for a LOT of the same albums that he did, including some more esoteric picks (the Tom Ze comp, Rolling Stones Now!, How I Got Over, etc.). It's almost like he had two votes!
I feel vindicated on How I Got Over now...I probably think that is my favorite Roots album.
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i had forgotten that The Immaculate Collection had a notably higher placement in the 201 update.

cregis- as for compilations: Note that there aren't that many on the list. Something like Immaculate is just such a force to be reckoned with, that it's ingrained in many's minds. It so defined its era, both with the audio and visuals. As much as I love Madonna's best studio sets, Immaculate probably remains my "desert-island" album.
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Maybe the first best-of list I ever saw was Entertainment Weekly's top 100 CDs (1993), which often used compilations. I know it's not purist, but there are also more than a few record buyers out there that just want, say, Bob Marley's Legend, or a compilation for Chuck Berry or whoever else instead of diving into the discography.
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JR wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:07 pm i had forgotten that The Immaculate Collection had a notably higher placement in the 201 update.

cregis- as for compilations: Note that there aren't that many on the list. Something like Immaculate is just such a force to be reckoned with, that it's ingrained in many's minds. It so defined its era, both with the audio and visuals. As much as I love Madonna's best studio sets, Immaculate probably remains my "desert-island" album.
I totally agree re: The Immaculate Collection. Far and away had a bigger impact on my own music journey than any of her individual albums. I guess if we got super technical, it's actually a remix album - which also ruined me for many of the original mixes.

I'm glad to see many of the compilations were removed in this 2020 iteration. My issue is more with the examples where I feel that there are obvious non-compiled alternatives. The Supremes come to mind. I think Where Did Our Love Go would fit nicely in place of Anthology.
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I combined the two lists (2012 and 2020) into one list of 500. I used the AM All-Time Artists formula to assign points to albums and then added them together.


1 | The Beach Boys | Pet Sounds
2 | Marvin Gaye | What's Going On
3 | The Beatles | Revolver
4 | The Beatles | Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
5 | The Beatles | Abbey Road
6 | Bob Dylan | Highway 61 Revisited
7 | Joni Mitchell | Blue
8 | The Rolling Stones | Exile on Main St.
9 | Nirvana | Nevermind
10 | The Clash | London Calling
11 | Bob Dylan | Blood on the Tracks
12 | The Beatles | Rubber Soul
13 | Fleetwood Mac | Rumours
14 | Stevie Wonder | Songs in the Key of Life
15 | Michael Jackson | Thriller
16 | The Beatles | The Beatles (White Album)
17 | The Velvet Underground & Nico | The Velvet Underground & Nico
18 | Bob Dylan | Blonde on Blonde
19 | Miles Davis | Kind of Blue
20 | Bruce Springsteen | Born to Run
21 | The Jimi Hendrix Experience | Are You Experienced?
22 | Prince and the Revolution | Purple Rain
23 | Public Enemy | It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
24 | Stevie Wonder | Innervisions
25 | Carole King | Tapestry
26 | Aretha Franklin | I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You
27 | Chuck Berry | The Great Twenty-Eight
28 | Van Morrison | Astral Weeks
29 | Patti Smith | Horses
30 | Radiohead | Kid A
31 | The Rolling Stones | Let It Bleed
32 | David Bowie | The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
33 | Ramones | Ramones
34 | James Brown | Live at the Apollo
35 | John Lennon | Plastic Ono Band
36 | Lauryn Hill | The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
37 | The Who | Who's Next
38 | Bob Marley and the Wailers | Legend
39 | Pink Floyd | The Dark Side of the Moon
40 | Michael Jackson | Off the Wall
41 | The Band | The Band
42 | The Notorious B.I.G. | Ready to Die
43 | Led Zeppelin | Led Zeppelin
44 | The Jimi Hendrix Experience | Electric Ladyland
45 | John Coltrane | A Love Supreme
46 | Sex Pistols | Never Mind the Bollocks - Here's the Sex Pistols
47 | Paul Simon | Graceland
48 | The Band | Music from Big Pink
49 | U2 | The Joshua Tree
50 | The Doors | The Doors
51 | Guns N' Roses | Appetite for Destruction
52 | Led Zeppelin | Led Zeppelin IV
53 | James Brown | Star Time
54 | Prince | Sign O' the Times
55 | The Eagles | Hotel California
56 | Kanye West | My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
57 | Talking Heads | Remain in Light
58 | Dr. Dre | The Chronic
59 | Bob Dylan | Bringing It All Back Home
60 | The Allman Brothers Band | At Fillmore East
61 | Elvis Presley | Sunrise
62 | Stevie Wonder | Talking Book
63 | Curtis Mayfield | Superfly
64 | Neil Young | Harvest
65 | A Tribe Called Quest | The Low End Theory
66 | Radiohead | OK Computer
67 | Aretha Franklin | Lady Soul
68 | AC/DC | Back in Black
69 | Love | Forever Changes
70 | The Rolling Stones | Sticky Fingers
71 | Neil Young | After the Gold Rush
72 | Dusty Springfield | Dusty in Memphis
73 | The Jimi Hendrix Experience | Axis: Bold as Love
74 | U2 | Achtung Baby
75 | Van Morrison | Moondance
76 | Wu-Tang Clan | Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
77 | Sly and the Family Stone | There's a Riot Goin' On
78 | The Clash | The Clash
79 | Simon and Garfunkel | Bridge Over Troubled Water
80 | Miles Davis | Bitches Brew
81 | Steely Dan | Aja
82 | David Bowie | Hunky Dory
83 | Led Zeppelin | Led Zeppelin II
84 | D'Angelo | Voodoo
85 | The Beatles | Meet the Beatles!
86 | N.W.A | Straight Outta Compton
87 | The Rolling Stones | Beggars Banquet
88 | Elton John | Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
89 | Kendrick Lamar | To Pimp a Butterfly
90 | Led Zeppelin | Physical Graffiti
91 | Little Richard | Here's Little Richard
92 | Ray Charles | The Birth of Soul
93 | Pink Floyd | The Wall
94 | Amy Winehouse | Back to Black
95 | Jay-Z | The Blueprint
96 | Billy Joel | The Stranger
97 | Bob Marley & The Wailers | Exodus
98 | Elvis Costello | This Year's Model
99 | Bruce Springsteen | Born in the U.S.A.
100 | Robert Johnson | The Complete Recordings
101 | Hank Williams | 40 Greatest Hits
102 | Joni Mitchell | Court and Spark
103 | Eric B. & Rakim | Paid in Full
104 | Ray Charles | Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music
105 | Otis Redding | Otis Blue
106 | Bruce Springsteen | Darkness on the Edge of Town
107 | Kanye West | Late Registration
108 | Television | Marquee Moon
109 | Muddy Waters | The Anthology
110 | Johnny Cash | At Folsom Prison
111 | Sly and the Family Stone | Stand!
112 | Nas | Illmatic
113 | David Bowie | Station to Station
114 | Buddy Holly | 20 Golden Greats
115 | My Bloody Valentine | Loveless
116 | Jay-Z | Reasonable Doubt
117 | Metallica | Master of Puppets
118 | Liz Phair | Exile in Guyville
119 | Elvis Presley | Elvis Presley
120 | John Lennon | Imagine
121 | The Stooges | Fun House
122 | Bob Marley and The Wailers | Catch a Fire
123 | The Who | Tommy
124 | Black Sabbath | Paranoid
125 | Sly & the Family Stone | Greatest Hits
126 | James Taylor | Sweet Baby James
127 | Cream | Disraeli Gears
128 | Beastie Boys | Paul's Boutique
129 | Al Green | Greatest Hits
130 | OutKast | Aquemini
131 | Beyoncé | Lemonade
132 | Kanye West | The College Dropout
133 | OutKast | Stankonia
134 | Blondie | Parallel Lines
135 | Lou Reed | Transformer
136 | Jimmy Cliff & Various Artists | The Harder They Come: Original Soundtrack
137 | Prince | 1999
138 | Various Artists | Saturday Night Fever
139 | The Strokes | Is This It
140 | Etta James | At Last!
141 | R.E.M. | Automatic for the People
142 | John Coltrane | Giant Steps
143 | The Zombies | Odessey and Oracle
144 | The Pretenders | Pretenders
145 | Bob Dylan | The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
146 | The Smiths | The Queen Is Dead
147 | Nine Inch Nails | The Downward Spiral
148 | Madonna | The Immaculate Collection
149 | Run-DMC | Raising Hell
150 | The Beatles | Please Please Me
151 | The Velvet Underground | Loaded
152 | Derek and the Dominos | Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs
153 | Pavement | Slanted and Enchanted
154 | Phil Spector & Various Artists | Back to Mono (1958-1969)
155 | Frank Sinatra | In the Wee Small Hours
156 | Lucinda Williams | Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
157 | Queen | A Night at the Opera
158 | Radiohead | The Bends
159 | The B-52's | The B-52's
160 | T. Rex | Electric Warrior
161 | Rod Stewart | Every Picture Tells a Story
162 | Sam Cooke | Portrait of a Legend
163 | Janis Joplin | Pearl
164 | Pixies | Doolittle
165 | The Byrds | Sweetheart of the Rodeo
166 | Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Déjà Vu
167 | R.E.M. | Murmur
168 | Pearl Jam | Ten
169 | De La Soul | 3 Feet High and Rising
170 | Bruce Springsteen | Nebraska
171 | The Rolling Stones | Aftermath
172 | Mary J. Blige | My Life
173 | The Who | The Who Sell Out
174 | Eminem | The Marshall Mathers LP
175 | The Cure | Disintegration
176 | The Replacements | Let It Be
177 | Ramones | Rocket to Russia
178 | Michael Jackson | Bad
179 | Steely Dan | Can't Buy a Thrill
180 | Led Zeppelin | Houses of the Holy
181 | B.B. King | Live at the Regal
182 | Crosby, Stills & Nash | Crosby, Stills & Nash
183 | Beastie Boys | Licensed to Ill
184 | Cat Stevens | Tea for the Tillerman
185 | Creedence Clearwater Revival | Chronicle
186 | Willie Nelson | Red Headed Stranger
187 | Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band | Trout Mask Replica
188 | Jeff Buckley | Grace
189 | The Velvet Underground | The Velvet Underground
190 | Bruce Springsteen | The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle
191 | Hole | Live Through This
192 | Joy Division | Closer
193 | Kiss | Alive!
194 | Dr. John | Gris-Gris
195 | Kate Bush | Hounds of Love
196 | Sleater-Kinney | Dig Me Out
197 | David Bowie | Low
198 | Alanis Morrissette | Jagged Little Pill
199 | Portishead | Dummy
200 | Public Enemy | Fear of a Black Planet
201 | Jay-Z | The Black Album
202 | ABBA | The Definitive Collection
203 | Patsy Cline | The Ultimate Collection
204 | The Who | Live at Leeds
205 | Peter Gabriel | So
206 | Sonic Youth | Daydream Nation
207 | Pink Floyd | Wish You Were Here
208 | Green Day | American Idiot
209 | Depeche Mode | Violator
210 | Grateful Dead | American Beauty
211 | Red Hot Chili Peppers | Blood Sugar Sex Magik
212 | Oasis | (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
213 | Fugees | The Score
214 | Creedence Clearwater Revival | Willy and the Poor Boys
215 | PJ Harvey | Rid of Me
216 | Metallica | Metallica
217 | Elvis Presley | The Sun Sessions
218 | Elvis Presley | From Elvis in Memphis
219 | Kraftwerk | Trans Europe Express
220 | Funkadelic | Maggot Brain
221 | Frank Ocean | Blonde
222 | Funkadelic | One Nation Under a Groove
223 | Beyoncé | Beyoncé
224 | Aerosmith | Rocks
225 | Whitney Houston | Whitney Houston
226 | John Prine | John Prine
227 | New York Dolls | New York Dolls
228 | Nick Drake | Pink Moon
229 | Jefferson Airplane | Surrealistic Pillow
230 | Prince | Dirty Mind
231 | Todd Rundgren | Something/Anything?
232 | The Byrds | Mr. Tambourine Man
233 | Marvin Gaye | Let's Get It On
234 | Tracy Chapman | Tracy Chapman
235 | George Michael | Faith
236 | The Police | Synchronicity
237 | Santana | Abraxas
238 | Howlin' Wolf | Moanin' in the Moonlight
239 | Black Sabbath | Master of Reality
240 | Erykah Badu | Baduizm
241 | Green Day | Dookie
242 | Arcade Fire | Funeral
243 | Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers | Damn the Torpedoes
244 | Nirvana | In Utero
245 | Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott | Supa Dupa Fly
246 | Eagles | Eagles
247 | Drake | Take Care
248 | Dolly Parton | Coat of Many Colors
249 | Various Artists | Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era
250 | Madonna | Like a Prayer
251 | Jerry Lee Lewis | All Killer No Filler!
252 | The Velvet Underground | White Light/White Heat
253 | Rage Against the Machine | Rage Against the Machine
254 | Taylor Swift | Red
255 | Madonna | Ray of Light
256 | The Beatles | A Hard Day's Night
257 | TLC | CrazySexyCool
258 | The Notorious B.I.G. | Life After Death
259 | Janet Jackson | The Velvet Rope
260 | Ike & Tina Turner | Proud Mary: The Best of Ike and Tina Turner
261 | Cream | Fresh Cream
262 | Neil Young | Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
263 | Black Sabbath | Black Sabbath
264 | The Flying Burrito Brothers | The Gilded Palace of Sin
265 | Randy Newman | Sail Away
266 | Cyndi Lauper | She's So Unusual
267 | The Stooges | The Stooges
268 | Nirvana | MTV Unplugged in New York
269 | Pink Floyd | The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
270 | Al Green | I'm Still in Love with You
271 | The Beatles | Help!
272 | Weezer | Weezer (The Blue Album)
273 | Fiona Apple | When the Pawn...
274 | Lil Wayne | Tha Carter III
275 | Buzzcocks | Singles Going Steady
276 | Elton John | Honky Château
277 | The Meters | Looka Py Py
278 | Pavement | Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
279 | Run-D.M.C. | Run-D.M.C.
280 | Janet Jackson | Control
281 | X | Los Angeles
282 | The Mamas and The Papas | If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears
283 | Janet Jackson | Rhythm Nation 1814
284 | Massive Attack | Blue Lines
285 | Kendrick Lamar | good kid, m.A.A.d city
286 | Bo Diddley | Bo Diddley/Go Bo Diddley
287 | Eminem | The Slim Shady LP
288 | The Rolling Stones | Out of Our Heads
289 | Bob Dylan & The Band | The Basement Tapes
290 | The Kinks | The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society
291 | Stevie Wonder | Music of My Mind
292 | Neil Young | Tonight's the Night
293 | Parliament | Mothership Connection
294 | The Cars | The Cars
295 | Bob Dylan | John Wesley Harding
296 | Ornette Coleman | The Shape of Jazz to Come
297 | MC5 | Kick Out the Jams
298 | Raekwon | Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
299 | Neil Young | Rust Never Sleeps
300 | Sam Cooke | Live at the Harlem Square Club, 1963
301 | Moby Grape | Moby Grape
302 | Grateful Dead | Workingman's Dead
303 | The Byrds | Younger Than Yesterday
304 | Wilco | Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
305 | Björk | Post
306 | Iggy and The Stooges | Raw Power
307 | Minutemen | Double Nickels on the Dime
308 | The Modern Lovers | The Modern Lovers
309 | Devo | Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!
310 | Bonnie Raitt | Nick of Time
311 | Smokey Robinson | Going to a Go Go
312 | Otis Redding | Dictionary of Soul
313 | Paul Simon | Paul Simon
314 | Joni Mitchell | Hejira
315 | Red Hot Chili Peppers | Californication
316 | Elton John | Greatest Hits
317 | Adele | 21
318 | The Replacements | Tim
319 | The Meters | Rejuvenation
320 | Van Halen | Van Halen
321 | Various Artists | A Christmas Gift For You From Phil Spector
322 | Al Green | Call Me
323 | Pixies | Surfer Rosa
324 | The Smashing Pumpkins | Siamese Dream
325 | The Beach Boys | The Beach Boys Today!
326 | The Rolling Stones | Some Girls
327 | Big Brother & The Holding Company | Cheap Thrills
328 | Big Star | 3rd/Sister Lovers
329 | Wire | Pink Flag
330 | Frank Ocean | Channel Orange
331 | Beck | Odelay
332 | Santana | Santana
333 | Radiohead | In Rainbows
334 | Gang of Four | Entertainment!
335 | Toots & the Maytals | Funky Kingston
336 | The Clash | Sandinista!
337 | Brian Eno | Here Come the Warm Jets
338 | The Beatles | Let It Be
339 | Merle Haggard | Down Every Road: 1962-1994
340 | PJ Harvey | Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea
341 | Aretha Franklin | Amazing Grace
342 | The Kinks | Something Else by the Kinks
343 | Erykah Badu | Mama's Gun
344 | Elton John | Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy
345 | Roxy Music | For Your Pleasure
346 | Talking Heads | More Songs About Buildings and Foods
347 | Otis Redding | The Dock of the bay
348 | Tom Waits | Rain Dogs
349 | Pulp | Different Class
350 | Linda Ronstadt | The Very Best of Linda Ronstadt
351 | Brian Eno | Another Green World
352 | Big Star | Radio City
353 | Elvis Costello | Imperial Bedroom
354 | Dire Straits | Brothers in Arms
355 | The Temptations | Anthology
356 | Elvis Costello | My Aim Is True
357 | Coldplay | A Rush of Blood to the Head
358 | The Byrds | The Notorious Byrd Brothers
359 | Brian Wilson | Smile
360 | Lynyrd Skynyrd | (Pronounced 'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd)
361 | Bob Dylan | Desire
362 | Kendrick Lamar | DAMN.
363 | The Carpenters | Close To You
364 | The Stone Roses | The Stone Roses
365 | Bob Dylan | Love and Theft
366 | Curtis Mayfield and the Impressions | The Anthology 1961-1977
367 | George Harrison | All Things Must Pass
368 | The Rolling Stones | The Rolling Stones, Now!
369 | Bob Marley & The Wailers | Natty Dread
370 | Fleetwood Mac | Fleetwood Mac
371 | D'Angelo | Brown Sugar
372 | Black Flag | Damaged
373 | The Go-Go's | Beauty and the Beat
374 | Sly and The Family Stone | Fresh
375 | Ice Cube | AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
376 | Buffalo Springfield | Buffalo Springfield Again
377 | Happy Trails | Quicksilver Messenger Service
378 | LCD Soundsystem | Sound of Silver
379 | The White Stripes | Elephant
380 | Leonard Cohen | Songs of Leonard Cohen
381 | John Mayall with Eric Clapton | Bluesbreakers
382 | Robyn | Body Talk
383 | Little Walter | The Best of
384 | Sade | Diamond Life
385 | AC/DC | Highway to Hell
386 | A Tribe Called Quest | Midnight Marauders
387 | Björk | Homogenic
388 | Simon and Garfunkel | Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme
389 | Kanye West | Graduation
390 | Bob Dylan | Modern Times
391 | Cream | Wheels of Fire
392 | Sinéad O'Connor | I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got
393 | The Magnetic Fields | 69 Love Songs
394 | Joy Division | Unknown Pleasures
395 | Various Artists | The Indestructible Beat of Soweto
396 | Nina Simone | Wild Is the Wind
397 | Fiona Apple | The Idler Wheel...
398 | The Rolling Stones | Tattoo You
399 | Tom Petty | Wildflowers
400 | Los Lobos | How Will the Wolf Survive?
401 | Elliott Smith | Either/Or
402 | Oasis | Definitely Maybe
403 | Bobby Bland | Two Steps From the Blues
404 | Professor Longhair | New Orleans Piano
405 | Earth, Wind & Fire | That's the Way of the World
406 | U2 | War
407 | Big Star | #1 Record
408 | Dixie Chicks | Fly
409 | Neil Diamond | The Neil Diamond Collection
410 | The Ronettes | Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes
411 | Hüsker Dü | New Day Rising
412 | De La Soul | De La Soul Is Dead
413 | Aerosmith | Toys in the Attic
414 | Rihanna | Anti
415 | The Kinks | The Kink Kronikles
416 | Tori Amos | Little Earthquakes
417 | Simon and Garfunkel | Bookends
418 | Daft Punk | Discovery
419 | Jackie Wilson | Mr. Excitement!
420 | The Who | My Generation
421 | Suicide | Suicide
422 | Howlin' Wolf | Howlin' Wolf
423 | Boogie Down Productions | Criminal Minded
424 | Marvin Gaye | Here, My Dear
425 | Kanye West | 808s & Heartbreak
426 | Cocteau Twins | Heaven or Las Vegas
427 | LL Cool J | Mama Said Knock You Out
428 | The Mothers of Invention | Freak Out!
429 | Richard and Linda Thompson | I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight
430 | Sade | Love Deluxe
431 | Live/Dead | Grateful Dead
432 | Bruce Springsteen | The River
433 | Herbie Hancock | Head Hunters
434 | Joni Mitchell | The Hissing of Summer Lawns
435 | The Slits | Cut
436 | Willie Nelson | Stardust
437 | Beastie Boys | Check Your Head
438 | New Order | Power, Corruption & Lies
439 | Pavement | Wowee Zowee
440 | Ray Charles | The Genius of Ray Charles
441 | Blood, Sweat and Tears | Child is Father to the Man
442 | The Who | Quadrophenia
443 | Kanye West | Yeezus
444 | The Jesus and Mary Chain | Psychocandy
445 | Kacey Musgraves | Golden Hour
446 | Mary J. Blige | What's the 411?
447 | Labelle | Nightbirds
448 | Curtis Mayfield | Curtis
449 | Alicia Keys | The Diary of Alicia Keys
450 | Harry Smith, ed | Anthology of American Folk Music
451 | David Bowie | Aladdin Sane
452 | 50 Cent | Get Rich or Die Tryin'
453 | U2 | All That You Can't Leave Behind
454 | Harry Nilsson | Nilsson Schmilsson
455 | Muddy Waters | Folk Singer
456 | Donna Summer | Bad Girls
457 | Barry White | Can't Get Enough
458 | Grateful Dead | Anthem of the Sun
459 | OutKast | Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
460 | Destiny's Child | The Writing's on the Wall
461 | Talking Heads | Talking Heads: 77
462 | The Breeders | Last Splash
463 | Daft Punk | Random Access Memories
464 | Leonard Cohen | Songs of Love and Hate
465 | The Smiths | Meat Is Murder
466 | The Mothers of Invention | We're Only In It For the Money
467 | Tom Petty | Full Moon Fever
468 | Shania Twain | Come On Over
469 | Bill Withers | Just As I Am
470 | Frank Sinatra | Songs for Swingin' Lovers
471 | Neil Young | On the Beach
472 | Various Artists | The Sun Records Collection
473 | Solange | A Seat at the Table
474 | Jane's Addiction | Nothing's Shocking
475 | Aaliyah | One in a Million
476 | Rosalía | El Mal Querer
477 | Billie Holiday | Lady in Satin
478 | The O'Jays | Back Stabbers
479 | Bob Marley and the Wailers | Burnin'
480 | Radiohead | Amnesiac
481 | Lana Del Rey | Norman Fucking Rockwell!
482 | The Police | Ghost in the Machine
483 | Eric Clapton | Slowhand
484 | Vampire Weekend | Modern Vampires of the City
485 | DJ Shadow | Endtroducing...
486 | James Brown | In the Jungle Groove
487 | Richard and Linda Thompson | Shoot Out the Lights
488 | Bill Withers | Still Bill
489 | X | Wild Gift
490 | Graham Parker | Squeezing Out Sparks
491 | Soundgarden | Superunknown
492 | Roxy Music | Avalon
493 | Jethro Tull | Aqualung
494 | Tom Waits | The Heart of Saturday Night
495 | Snoop Doggy Dogg | Doggystyle
496 | Moby | Play
497 | Meat Loaf | Bat Out of Hell
498 | Lou Reed | Berlin
499 | Talking Heads | Stop Making Sense
500 | Arctic Monkeys | AM
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Re: Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time (2020 edition)

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StevieFan13 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:30 pm Now that I see what’s been cut, obviously I have reservations (I’m always sad seeing Whatever People Say I Am... not getting its due), but also seeing how many albums are just compilations, arbitrary picks for famous artists, or albums I’ve pretty much only heard old school critics praise (like Happy Trails).
To me it's wild that they included AM over Whatever People Say I Am...
I mean, AM is a pretty good album, but I always think of their debut as a damn classic....
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