NPR: The 150 Greatest Albums Made By Women
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Add it to the lists not decided yet thread. Hope it's eligible, because this kind of lists is absolutely essential.
1 | Joni Mitchell | Blue | 1971
2 | Lauryn Hill | The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill | 1998
3 | Nina Simone | I Put a Spell on You | 1965
4 | Aretha Franklin | I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You | 1967
5 | Missy Elliott | Supa Dupa Fly | 1997
6 | Beyoncé | Lemonade | 2016
7 | Patti Smith | Horses | 1975
8 | Janis Joplin | Pearl | 1971
9 | Amy Winehouse | Back to Black | 2006
10 | Carole King | Tapestry | 1971
11 | Dolly Parton | Coat of Many Colors | 1971
12 | Erykah Badu | Baduizm | 1997
13 | Madonna | Like a Prayer | 1989
14 | Whitney Houston | Whitney Houston | 1985
15 | Diana Ross & the Supremes | Where Did Our Love Go | 1964
16 | Fleetwood Mac | Rumours | 1977
17 | Janet Jackson | Control | 1986
18 | Lucinda Williams | Car Wheels on a Gravel Road | 1998
19 | Selena | Amor prohibido | 1994
20 | The Ronettes | Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes Featuring Veronica | 1964
21 | PJ Harvey | Rid of Me | 1993
22 | Sade | Diamond Life | 1984
23 | Aretha Franklin | Amazing Grace | 1972
24 | Loretta Lynn | Coal Miner's Daughter | 1970
25 | Ani DiFranco | Little Plastic Castle | 1998
26 | TLC | CrazySexyCool | 1994
27 | Tori Amos | Little Earthquakes | 1992
28 | Nina Simone | Nina Simone Sings the Blues | 1967
29 | Alanis Morissette | Jagged Little Pill | 1995
30 | Adele | 21 | 2011
31 | Liz Phair | Exile in Guyville | 1993
32 | Björk | Post | 1995
33 | Queen Latifah | All Hail the Queen | 1989
34 | Tina Turner | Private Dancer | 1984
35 | Blondie | Parallel Lines | 1978
36 | Grace Jones | Nightclubbing | 1981
37 | Kate Bush | Hounds of Love | 1985
38 | Odetta | It's a Mighty World | 1964
39 | Gillian Welch | Time (The Revelator) | 2001
40 | The Staple Singers | Be Altitude: Respect Yourself | 1972
41 | Tracy Chapman | Tracy Chapman | 1988
42 | Ella Fitzgerald | Sings the Johnny Mercer Song Book | 1964
43 | M.I.A. | Kala | 2007
44 | Heart | Dreamboat Annie | 1976
45 | Dusty Springfield | Dusty in Memphis | 1969
46 | Emmylou Harris | Wrecking Ball | 1995
47 | Celia Cruz | Son con Guaguanco | 1966
48 | Etta James | Rocks the House | 1964
49 | Rickie Lee Jones | Pirates | 1981
50 | Hole | Live Through This | 1994
51 | Sarah Vaughan | Sassy Swings Again | 1967
52 | Bonnie Raitt | Nick of Time | 1989
53 | Linda Ronstadt | Heart Like a Wheel | 1974
54 | Nico | Chelsea Girl | 1967
55 | The Go-Go's | Beauty and the Beat | 1981
56 | X-Ray Spex | Germfree Adolescents | 1978
57 | Mary J. Blige | What's the 411? | 1992
58 | Labelle | Nightbirds | 1974
59 | Indigo Girls | Indigo Girls | 1989
60 | Pretenders | Pretenders | 1980
61 | Destiny's Child | The Writing's on the Wall | 1999
62 | Dixie Chicks | Wide Open Spaces | 1998
63 | Madonna | Like a Virgin | 1984
64 | Spice Girls | Spice | 1996
65 | Cassandra Wilson | Blue Light 'Til Dawn | 1993
66 | Miriam Makeba | Pata Pata | 1967
67 | Sinéad O'Connor | I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got | 1990
68 | Rosanne Cash | King's Record Shop | 1987
69 | Cyndi Lauper | She's So Unusual | 1983
70 | Stevie Nicks | Bella Donna | 1981
71 | Salt-N-Pepa | Blacks' Magic | 1990
72 | The Runaways | The Runaways | 1976
73 | Astrud Gilberto | The Astrud Gilberto Album | 1965
74 | The Raincoats | The Raincoats | 1979
75 | Donna Summer | Bad Girls | 1979
76 | Tammy Wynette | Stand by Your Man | 1969
77 | Aaliyah | Aaliyah | 2001
78 | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares [credited here to The Bulgarian State Radio & Television Choir] | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | 1987
79 | Portishead | Dummy | 1994
80 | Laurie Anderson | Big Science | 1982
81 | Sleater-Kinney | Dig Me Out | 1997
82 | Laura Nyro | New York Tendaberry | 1969
83 | Bobbie Gentry | Ode to Billie Joe | 1967
84 | Roberta Flack | First Take | 1969
85 | Joan Baez | Diamonds & Rust | 1975
86 | Alice Coltrane | Journey in Satchidananda | 1971
87 | X | Los Angeles | 1980
88 | k.d. lang | Ingénue | 1992
89 | Shania Twain | Come on Over | 1997
90 | Barbra Streisand [The Original Broadway Cast] | Funny Girl | 1964
91 | Alison Krauss & Union Station | New Favorite | 2001
92 | Meshell Ndegeocello | Peace Beyond Passion | 1996
93 | Britney Spears | ...Baby One More Time | 1999
94 | Sheryl Crow | Tuesday Night Music Club | 1993
95 | Shakira | ¿Donde están los ladrones? | 1998
96 | Lil' Kim | Hard Core | 1996
97 | Mariah Carey | Daydream | 1995
98 | Bikini Kill | Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah | 1993
99 | Taylor Swift | Fearless | 2008
100 | Buffy Sainte-Marie | It's My Way! | 1964
101 | Eurythmics | Touch | 1983
102 | Alabama Shakes | Sound & Color | 2015
103 | Umm Kulthum | Enta omri (You Are My Life) | 1964
104 | ESG | Come Away with ESG | 1983
105 | Sheila E. | The Glamorous Life | 1984
106 | No Doubt | Tragic Kingdom | 1995
107 | The Shangri-Las | Leader of the Pack | 1965
108 | Gladys Knight & the Pips | Imagination | 1973
109 | Against Me! | Transgender Dysphoria Blues | 2014
110 | Miranda Lamber | Platinum | 2014
111 | Diamanda Galás | The Litanies of Satan | 1982
112 | Mercedes Sosa | Mercedes Sosa en Argentina | 1982
113 | Aretha Franklin | Young, Gifted and Black | 1972
114 | Reba McEntire | Rumor Has It | 1990
115 | La Lupe & Tito Puente | La pareja | 1978
116 | Macy Gray | On How Life Is | 1999
117 | Joan Jett | I Love Rock 'n' Roll | 1981
118 | Chaka Khan | I Feel for You | 1984
119 | The Slits | Cut | 1979
120 | Anita Baker | Rapture | 1986
121 | Joni Mitchell | Hejira | 1976
122 | Siouxsie and the Banshees | The Scream | 1978
123 | Cris Williamson | The Changer and the Changed: A Record of the Times | 1975
124 | Carly Simon | No Secrets | 1972
125 | Fiona Apple | Tidal | 1996
126 | The Carpenters | A Song for You | 1972
127 | Sonic Youth | Sister | 1987
128 | Pauline Oliveros, Stuart Dempster & Panaiotis | Deep Listening | 1989
129 | Marianne Faithfull | Broken English | 1979
130 | Teena Marie | Wild and Peaceful | 1979
131 | Shirley Horn | I Thought About You - Live at Vine St. | 1987
132 | Shelby Lynne | I Am Shelby Lynne | 2000
133 | Fanny | Fanny Hill | 1972
134 | Solange | A Seat at the Table | 2016
135 | The B-52's | The B-52's | 1979
136 | Yoko Ono | Plastic Ono Band | 1970
137 | Ofra Haza | 50 Gates of Wisdom (Yemenite Songs) | 1987
138 | Cocteau Twins | Heaven or Las Vegas | 1990
139 | The Bangles | All Over the Place | 1984
140 | Norah Jones | Come Away with Me | 2002
141 | Joanna Newsom | Ys | 2006
142 | Iris DeMent | My Life | 1993
143 | Robyn | Body Talk | 2010
144 | The Breeders | Last Splash | 1993
145 | Oumou Sangaré | Moussolou (Women) | 1989
146 | Patty Griffin | Flaming Red | 1998
147 | Meredith Monk | Dolmen Music | 1981
148 | Terri Lyne Carrington | The Mosaic Project | 2011
149 | Alicia Keys | Songs in A Minor | 2001
150 | The Roches | The Roches | 1979
Pretty neat for an unfortunately rare exercice. Still, I won't play the party-pooper too much but there are a lot of personal favourites and other names that I believe are important who are not featured here (Grimes, Carly Rae Jepsen, Kate and Anna McGarrigle, Neneh Cherry, Pat Benatar, Rihanna, Jefferson Airplane may count if Sonic Youth and Fleetwood Mac do, the Mamas & the Papas, heavy metal acts, French chanteuses, Carla Bley, Jun Togawa, Akiko Yano, Mala Rodriguez, Mecano, Violeta Parra, Yma Sumac, Cesária Évora, Maria Bethânia, Marika Gombitová...). Whatever, it's already cool that such a list exists in the first place.
1 | Joni Mitchell | Blue | 1971
2 | Lauryn Hill | The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill | 1998
3 | Nina Simone | I Put a Spell on You | 1965
4 | Aretha Franklin | I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You | 1967
5 | Missy Elliott | Supa Dupa Fly | 1997
6 | Beyoncé | Lemonade | 2016
7 | Patti Smith | Horses | 1975
8 | Janis Joplin | Pearl | 1971
9 | Amy Winehouse | Back to Black | 2006
10 | Carole King | Tapestry | 1971
11 | Dolly Parton | Coat of Many Colors | 1971
12 | Erykah Badu | Baduizm | 1997
13 | Madonna | Like a Prayer | 1989
14 | Whitney Houston | Whitney Houston | 1985
15 | Diana Ross & the Supremes | Where Did Our Love Go | 1964
16 | Fleetwood Mac | Rumours | 1977
17 | Janet Jackson | Control | 1986
18 | Lucinda Williams | Car Wheels on a Gravel Road | 1998
19 | Selena | Amor prohibido | 1994
20 | The Ronettes | Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes Featuring Veronica | 1964
21 | PJ Harvey | Rid of Me | 1993
22 | Sade | Diamond Life | 1984
23 | Aretha Franklin | Amazing Grace | 1972
24 | Loretta Lynn | Coal Miner's Daughter | 1970
25 | Ani DiFranco | Little Plastic Castle | 1998
26 | TLC | CrazySexyCool | 1994
27 | Tori Amos | Little Earthquakes | 1992
28 | Nina Simone | Nina Simone Sings the Blues | 1967
29 | Alanis Morissette | Jagged Little Pill | 1995
30 | Adele | 21 | 2011
31 | Liz Phair | Exile in Guyville | 1993
32 | Björk | Post | 1995
33 | Queen Latifah | All Hail the Queen | 1989
34 | Tina Turner | Private Dancer | 1984
35 | Blondie | Parallel Lines | 1978
36 | Grace Jones | Nightclubbing | 1981
37 | Kate Bush | Hounds of Love | 1985
38 | Odetta | It's a Mighty World | 1964
39 | Gillian Welch | Time (The Revelator) | 2001
40 | The Staple Singers | Be Altitude: Respect Yourself | 1972
41 | Tracy Chapman | Tracy Chapman | 1988
42 | Ella Fitzgerald | Sings the Johnny Mercer Song Book | 1964
43 | M.I.A. | Kala | 2007
44 | Heart | Dreamboat Annie | 1976
45 | Dusty Springfield | Dusty in Memphis | 1969
46 | Emmylou Harris | Wrecking Ball | 1995
47 | Celia Cruz | Son con Guaguanco | 1966
48 | Etta James | Rocks the House | 1964
49 | Rickie Lee Jones | Pirates | 1981
50 | Hole | Live Through This | 1994
51 | Sarah Vaughan | Sassy Swings Again | 1967
52 | Bonnie Raitt | Nick of Time | 1989
53 | Linda Ronstadt | Heart Like a Wheel | 1974
54 | Nico | Chelsea Girl | 1967
55 | The Go-Go's | Beauty and the Beat | 1981
56 | X-Ray Spex | Germfree Adolescents | 1978
57 | Mary J. Blige | What's the 411? | 1992
58 | Labelle | Nightbirds | 1974
59 | Indigo Girls | Indigo Girls | 1989
60 | Pretenders | Pretenders | 1980
61 | Destiny's Child | The Writing's on the Wall | 1999
62 | Dixie Chicks | Wide Open Spaces | 1998
63 | Madonna | Like a Virgin | 1984
64 | Spice Girls | Spice | 1996
65 | Cassandra Wilson | Blue Light 'Til Dawn | 1993
66 | Miriam Makeba | Pata Pata | 1967
67 | Sinéad O'Connor | I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got | 1990
68 | Rosanne Cash | King's Record Shop | 1987
69 | Cyndi Lauper | She's So Unusual | 1983
70 | Stevie Nicks | Bella Donna | 1981
71 | Salt-N-Pepa | Blacks' Magic | 1990
72 | The Runaways | The Runaways | 1976
73 | Astrud Gilberto | The Astrud Gilberto Album | 1965
74 | The Raincoats | The Raincoats | 1979
75 | Donna Summer | Bad Girls | 1979
76 | Tammy Wynette | Stand by Your Man | 1969
77 | Aaliyah | Aaliyah | 2001
78 | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares [credited here to The Bulgarian State Radio & Television Choir] | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | 1987
79 | Portishead | Dummy | 1994
80 | Laurie Anderson | Big Science | 1982
81 | Sleater-Kinney | Dig Me Out | 1997
82 | Laura Nyro | New York Tendaberry | 1969
83 | Bobbie Gentry | Ode to Billie Joe | 1967
84 | Roberta Flack | First Take | 1969
85 | Joan Baez | Diamonds & Rust | 1975
86 | Alice Coltrane | Journey in Satchidananda | 1971
87 | X | Los Angeles | 1980
88 | k.d. lang | Ingénue | 1992
89 | Shania Twain | Come on Over | 1997
90 | Barbra Streisand [The Original Broadway Cast] | Funny Girl | 1964
91 | Alison Krauss & Union Station | New Favorite | 2001
92 | Meshell Ndegeocello | Peace Beyond Passion | 1996
93 | Britney Spears | ...Baby One More Time | 1999
94 | Sheryl Crow | Tuesday Night Music Club | 1993
95 | Shakira | ¿Donde están los ladrones? | 1998
96 | Lil' Kim | Hard Core | 1996
97 | Mariah Carey | Daydream | 1995
98 | Bikini Kill | Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah | 1993
99 | Taylor Swift | Fearless | 2008
100 | Buffy Sainte-Marie | It's My Way! | 1964
101 | Eurythmics | Touch | 1983
102 | Alabama Shakes | Sound & Color | 2015
103 | Umm Kulthum | Enta omri (You Are My Life) | 1964
104 | ESG | Come Away with ESG | 1983
105 | Sheila E. | The Glamorous Life | 1984
106 | No Doubt | Tragic Kingdom | 1995
107 | The Shangri-Las | Leader of the Pack | 1965
108 | Gladys Knight & the Pips | Imagination | 1973
109 | Against Me! | Transgender Dysphoria Blues | 2014
110 | Miranda Lamber | Platinum | 2014
111 | Diamanda Galás | The Litanies of Satan | 1982
112 | Mercedes Sosa | Mercedes Sosa en Argentina | 1982
113 | Aretha Franklin | Young, Gifted and Black | 1972
114 | Reba McEntire | Rumor Has It | 1990
115 | La Lupe & Tito Puente | La pareja | 1978
116 | Macy Gray | On How Life Is | 1999
117 | Joan Jett | I Love Rock 'n' Roll | 1981
118 | Chaka Khan | I Feel for You | 1984
119 | The Slits | Cut | 1979
120 | Anita Baker | Rapture | 1986
121 | Joni Mitchell | Hejira | 1976
122 | Siouxsie and the Banshees | The Scream | 1978
123 | Cris Williamson | The Changer and the Changed: A Record of the Times | 1975
124 | Carly Simon | No Secrets | 1972
125 | Fiona Apple | Tidal | 1996
126 | The Carpenters | A Song for You | 1972
127 | Sonic Youth | Sister | 1987
128 | Pauline Oliveros, Stuart Dempster & Panaiotis | Deep Listening | 1989
129 | Marianne Faithfull | Broken English | 1979
130 | Teena Marie | Wild and Peaceful | 1979
131 | Shirley Horn | I Thought About You - Live at Vine St. | 1987
132 | Shelby Lynne | I Am Shelby Lynne | 2000
133 | Fanny | Fanny Hill | 1972
134 | Solange | A Seat at the Table | 2016
135 | The B-52's | The B-52's | 1979
136 | Yoko Ono | Plastic Ono Band | 1970
137 | Ofra Haza | 50 Gates of Wisdom (Yemenite Songs) | 1987
138 | Cocteau Twins | Heaven or Las Vegas | 1990
139 | The Bangles | All Over the Place | 1984
140 | Norah Jones | Come Away with Me | 2002
141 | Joanna Newsom | Ys | 2006
142 | Iris DeMent | My Life | 1993
143 | Robyn | Body Talk | 2010
144 | The Breeders | Last Splash | 1993
145 | Oumou Sangaré | Moussolou (Women) | 1989
146 | Patty Griffin | Flaming Red | 1998
147 | Meredith Monk | Dolmen Music | 1981
148 | Terri Lyne Carrington | The Mosaic Project | 2011
149 | Alicia Keys | Songs in A Minor | 2001
150 | The Roches | The Roches | 1979
Pretty neat for an unfortunately rare exercice. Still, I won't play the party-pooper too much but there are a lot of personal favourites and other names that I believe are important who are not featured here (Grimes, Carly Rae Jepsen, Kate and Anna McGarrigle, Neneh Cherry, Pat Benatar, Rihanna, Jefferson Airplane may count if Sonic Youth and Fleetwood Mac do, the Mamas & the Papas, heavy metal acts, French chanteuses, Carla Bley, Jun Togawa, Akiko Yano, Mala Rodriguez, Mecano, Violeta Parra, Yma Sumac, Cesária Évora, Maria Bethânia, Marika Gombitová...). Whatever, it's already cool that such a list exists in the first place.
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What a great find! And yay, an Israeli album on a non-Israeli list!
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Not a single album by St. Vincent? Ouch...
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A lot of modern artists took the shaft: Grimes, Julia Holter, Angel Olsen, Warpaint, and in older ones, Cat Power or Neko Case... While writing the list down, I almost thought Joanna Newsom wouldn't make it, until she popped up at #141. Meanwhile, Taylor Swift, Miranda Lambert and Adele are here. I'm still not sure we can blame the list for leaning toward the mainstream even though there's room for many major pop acts, as it does feature some punk and alternative acts and does explore a bit beyond the English-speaking world. I dunno.Nick wrote:Not a single album by St. Vincent? Ouch...
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Re: NPR: The 150 Greatest Albums Made By Women
Yes and no. It's true that women are still ignored too much on many lists (although their albums are getting more acclaim nowadays; part of the problem was that they didn't get much attention during the so-called golden days of the sixties). The problem of such a list is that it posits women as a specialty group, perhaps as a genre. It makes them once again an Other. I know this list is meant to be positive, but the fact that nobody would ever see a male-only list as necessary shows we haven't got complete equality yet. You mention yourself a lot of artists that deserve an album on the list. There are even more and most of the women that do rank have multiple deserving albums. 150 is really small for such a small group.Pierre wrote:Whatever, it's already cool that such a list exists in the first place.
Not that the albums selected are bad choices.
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I see your points and of course I agree. Hopefully the day will come where we'll have lists with a real 50/50 ratio between women and men. And also, I agree 150 is way too short. In the meantime, it's always a good thing to have it so as to balance things out a bit here on AM.Rob wrote:Yes and no. It's true that women are still ignored too much on many lists (although their albums are getting more acclaim nowadays; part of the problem was that they didn't get much attention during the so-called golden days of the sixties). The problem of such a list is that it posits women as a specialty group, perhaps as a genre. It makes them once again an Other. I know this list is meant to be positive, but the fact that nobody would ever see a male-only list as necessary shows we haven't got complete equality yet. You mention yourself a lot of artists that deserve an album on the list. There are even more and most of the women that do rank have multiple deserving albums. 150 is really small for such a small group.Pierre wrote:Whatever, it's already cool that such a list exists in the first place.
Not that the albums selected are bad choices.
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Taylor Swift's Red and 1989 are two of my favorite albums of all time. I think Taylor deserves a spot on here. However, I'm not so sure that Fearless should have been the one to represent Taylor, though. Just because she's not indie doesn't mean she's bad.Pierre wrote:A lot of modern artists took the shaft: Grimes, Julia Holter, Angel Olsen, Warpaint, and in older ones, Cat Power or Neko Case... While writing the list down, I almost thought Joanna Newsom wouldn't make it, until she popped up at #141. Meanwhile, Taylor Swift, Miranda Lambert and Adele are here.
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Relatively dull list here, but definitely DEFINITELY we need more of these kinds of lists!
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Yeah, I only meant that the list tended to lean toward the mainstream for the last decade, even though there were some more alternative stuff before, and I found it odd. I didn't want to criticize Taylor. In fact, for the mainstream, I regret Carly Rae Jepsen and Rihanna's absence.babydoll wrote:Taylor Swift's Red and 1989 are two of my favorite albums of all time. I think Taylor deserves a spot on here. However, I'm not so sure that Fearless should have been the one to represent Taylor, though. Just because she's not indie doesn't mean she's bad.Pierre wrote:A lot of modern artists took the shaft: Grimes, Julia Holter, Angel Olsen, Warpaint, and in older ones, Cat Power or Neko Case... While writing the list down, I almost thought Joanna Newsom wouldn't make it, until she popped up at #141. Meanwhile, Taylor Swift, Miranda Lambert and Adele are here.
Now that I've seen this list, I'm left hungry for more. It would have been easy to push the concept way beyond the #150 mark.
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Could be a good idea for a tournament here, actuallyPierre wrote:Yeah, I only meant that the list tended to lean toward the mainstream for the last decade, even though there were some more alternative stuff before, and I found it odd. I didn't want to criticize Taylor. In fact, for the mainstream, I regret Carly Rae Jepsen and Rihanna's absence.babydoll wrote:Taylor Swift's Red and 1989 are two of my favorite albums of all time. I think Taylor deserves a spot on here. However, I'm not so sure that Fearless should have been the one to represent Taylor, though. Just because she's not indie doesn't mean she's bad.Pierre wrote:A lot of modern artists took the shaft: Grimes, Julia Holter, Angel Olsen, Warpaint, and in older ones, Cat Power or Neko Case... While writing the list down, I almost thought Joanna Newsom wouldn't make it, until she popped up at #141. Meanwhile, Taylor Swift, Miranda Lambert and Adele are here.
Now that I've seen this list, I'm left hungry for more. It would have been easy to push the concept way beyond the #150 mark.
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Or a good old poll, but not so soon after the "general" albums one.StevieFan13 wrote:Could be a good idea for a tournament here, actuallyPierre wrote:Yeah, I only meant that the list tended to lean toward the mainstream for the last decade, even though there were some more alternative stuff before, and I found it odd. I didn't want to criticize Taylor. In fact, for the mainstream, I regret Carly Rae Jepsen and Rihanna's absence.babydoll wrote: Taylor Swift's Red and 1989 are two of my favorite albums of all time. I think Taylor deserves a spot on here. However, I'm not so sure that Fearless should have been the one to represent Taylor, though. Just because she's not indie doesn't mean she's bad.
Now that I've seen this list, I'm left hungry for more. It would have been easy to push the concept way beyond the #150 mark.
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Rolling Stone June 22, 2012: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... e-20120622prosecutorgodot wrote:Relatively dull list here, but definitely DEFINITELY we need more of these kinds of lists!
1. Aretha Franklin: I Never Loved A Man The Way I Loved You
2. Joni Mitchell: Blue
3. Dusty Springfield: Dusty in Memphis
4. Fleetwood Mac: Rumours
5. Patti Smith: Horses
6. Adele: 21
7. Missy Elliott: Under Construction
8. Blondie: Parallel Lines
9. The Supremes: Anthology
10. Bikini Kill: The Singles
11. Lady Gaga: Born This Way
12. Janis Joplin: Pearl
13. Mary J Blige: My Life
14. The Pretenders: The Pretenders
15. Patsy Cline: The Patsy Cline Collection
16. Labelle: Nightbirds
17. Sleater-Kinney: The Hot Rock
18. Madonna: Like A Prayer
19. Joan Jett: Bad Reputation
20. Etta James: At Last
21. Carole King: Tapestry
22. Liz Phair: Exile in Guyville
23. Donna Summers: Bad Girls
24. Hole: Live Through This
25. Heart: Little Queen
26. Janet Jackson: Rythym Nation
27. Dionne Warwick: Presenting…
28. Yeah Yeah Yeahs: It’s Blitz!
29. M.I.A.: Kala
30. Alicia Keys: As I Am
31. PJ Harvey: Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
32. Dolly Parton: Best of Dolly Parton
33. Irma Thomas: Soul Queen of New Orleans
34. Go-Go’s: Beauty and the Beat
35. The Ronnettes: The Best of the Ronnettes
36. X-Ray Spex: Germ Free Adolescents
37. Beyonce: 4
38. Bjork: Post
39. Fiona Apple: Extraordinary Machine
40. Yoko Ono: Walking on Thin Ice
41. Cyndi Lauper: She’s So Unusual
42. Linda Ronstadt: Heart Like a Wheel
43. Lauryn Hill: The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
44. Sioxsie and the Banshees: Once Upon a Time
45. Taylor Swift: Speak Now
46. Salt N Peppa: Hot, Cool and Vicious
47. Lucinda Williams: Car Wheels On A Gravel Road
48. Bonnie Raitt: Give It Up
49. The Breeders: Last Splash
50. Alanis Morissette: Jagged Little Pill
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I believe this one is already on the site, and another similar list is set to be added for the next update (from Flavorwire, I believe).carlos74 wrote:Rolling Stone June 22, 2012: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... e-20120622prosecutorgodot wrote:Relatively dull list here, but definitely DEFINITELY we need more of these kinds of lists!
1. Aretha Franklin: I Never Loved A Man The Way I Loved You
2. Joni Mitchell: Blue
3. Dusty Springfield: Dusty in Memphis
4. Fleetwood Mac: Rumours
5. Patti Smith: Horses
6. Adele: 21
7. Missy Elliott: Under Construction
8. Blondie: Parallel Lines
9. The Supremes: Anthology
10. Bikini Kill: The Singles
11. Lady Gaga: Born This Way
12. Janis Joplin: Pearl
13. Mary J Blige: My Life
14. The Pretenders: The Pretenders
15. Patsy Cline: The Patsy Cline Collection
16. Labelle: Nightbirds
17. Sleater-Kinney: The Hot Rock
18. Madonna: Like A Prayer
19. Joan Jett: Bad Reputation
20. Etta James: At Last
21. Carole King: Tapestry
22. Liz Phair: Exile in Guyville
23. Donna Summers: Bad Girls
24. Hole: Live Through This
25. Heart: Little Queen
26. Janet Jackson: Rythym Nation
27. Dionne Warwick: Presenting…
28. Yeah Yeah Yeahs: It’s Blitz!
29. M.I.A.: Kala
30. Alicia Keys: As I Am
31. PJ Harvey: Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
32. Dolly Parton: Best of Dolly Parton
33. Irma Thomas: Soul Queen of New Orleans
34. Go-Go’s: Beauty and the Beat
35. The Ronnettes: The Best of the Ronnettes
36. X-Ray Spex: Germ Free Adolescents
37. Beyonce: 4
38. Bjork: Post
39. Fiona Apple: Extraordinary Machine
40. Yoko Ono: Walking on Thin Ice
41. Cyndi Lauper: She’s So Unusual
42. Linda Ronstadt: Heart Like a Wheel
43. Lauryn Hill: The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
44. Sioxsie and the Banshees: Once Upon a Time
45. Taylor Swift: Speak Now
46. Salt N Peppa: Hot, Cool and Vicious
47. Lucinda Williams: Car Wheels On A Gravel Road
48. Bonnie Raitt: Give It Up
49. The Breeders: Last Splash
50. Alanis Morissette: Jagged Little Pill
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Hi, I used the search engine but I did not find Rolling Stone's list. Flavorwire's list did not know it, thanks.StevieFan13 wrote: I believe this one is already on the site, and another similar list is set to be added for the next update (from Flavorwire, I believe).
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Re: NPR: The 150 Greatest Albums Made By Women
For comparison, here are the 150 Worst Albums Made by Men, as compiled by Jezebel:
http://themuse.jezebel.com/the-150-wors ... 1797242454
Surprising albums in bold.
150. Pearl Jam, No Code
149. Skinny Puppy, Too Dark Park
148. Mother Love Bone, Apple
147. Chris Brown, Graffiti
146. Ace Frehley, Ace Frehley
145. Dave Matthews Band, Before These Crowded Streets
144. Morrissey, Years of Refusal
143. Jay-Z & Linkin Park, Collision Course
142. Good Charlotte, Cardiology
141. Kanye West, 808s and Heartbreaks
140. Stevie Wonder, Characters
139. Big Sean, Finally Famous
138. Jay-Z & R. Kelly, Unfinished Business
137. Guns N Roses, Chinese Democracy
136. Diplo, Decent Work for Decent Pay
135. Dr. Dre, Dr. Dre Presents… The Aftermath
134. Tool, Ænima
133. Chief Keef, Finally Rich
132. Drake, Views (though I can see why)
131. Phish, Lawn Boy
130. David Guetta, Listen
129. Jamie Foxx, Best Night Of My Life
128. Slint, Spiderland
127. Pat Boone, the Greatest Story Ever Told
126. Flo-Rida, Wild Ones
125. Dee Dee Ramone, Dee Dee King
124. The National, Boxer (but I'm not crazy about The National either)
123. Snoop Lion, Reincarnated
122. Julio Iglesias, 1100 Bel Air Place
121. Daniel Powter, Daniel Powter
120. Yung Lean, Unknown Memory
119. Eamon, I Don’t Want You Back
118. Usher, Raymond v. Raymond
117. Stephen Malkmus & the Jicks, Pig Lib
116. Warrant, Cherry Pie
115. Prince, The Rainbow Children
114. The Crystal Method, Tweekend
113. Bon Iver, For Emma, Forever Ago
112. Soulja Boy, iSouljaBoyTellEm
111. Duran Duran, Thank You
110. Gene Simmons, Gene Simmons
109. Neil Young, Are You Passionate?
108. Michael Bolton, Soul Provider
107. Hoobastank, Every Man for Himself
106. Kula Shaker, Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts
105. The Weeknd, Kiss Land
104. The Beatles, Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band ( )
103. Vanilla Ice, Bi-Polar
102. Russell Crowe & The Ordinary Fear of God, My Hand, My Heart
101. Bo Bice, 3
100. Muse, Drones
99. Lifehouse, No Name Face
98. Bobby Brown, The Masterpiece
97. The Cure, Wild Mood Swings
96. The Shins, Oh, Inverted World (Not crazy about The Shins either)
95. Philly’s Most Wanted, Get Down or Lay Down
94. Action Bronson, Mr. Wonderful
93. AC/DC, Fly on the Wall
92. U2, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (I mean, it's not The Joshua Tree, but I'd go with Pop or No Line on the Horizon for a bad U2 album, and neither are that bad)
91. Bee Gees, Living Eyes
90. Ray J, Raydiation
89. Jack White, Blunderbuss
88. Twenty One Pilots, Blurryface
87. The-Dream, IV Play
86. Swedish House Mafia, Until Now
85. Wilco, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
84. Moby, Destroyed
83. Jet, Get Born
82. Jason Mraz, We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things.
81. Gavin DeGraw, Gavin DeGraw
80. Deadmau5, Random Album Title
79. Radiohead, Kid A (Never cared for it, but I don't think it's that bad)
78. Fun, Some Nights
77. One Direction, Four
76. Korn, Korn
75. Coldplay, Ghost Stories
74. Papa Roach, Infest
73. Elvis Presley, Today
72. Robbie Williams, Swing When You’re Winning
71. Giorgio Moroder, Déja-Vu
70. Weezer, Make Believe
69. Ed Sheeran, +
68. Daughtry, Leave This Town
67. Calvin Harris, I Created Disco
66. Maroon 5, Hands All Over
65. Metallica, Death Magnetic
64. Steve Miller Band, The Joker
63. Lil Wayne, Rebirth
62. Mötley Crüe, Generation Swine
61. Timbaland, Shock Value
60. Sufjan Stevens, Illinois
59. The Rolling Stones, Dirty Work
58. Borgore, #NEWGOREORDER
57. Sting, Ten Summoner’s Tales
56. Chingy, Hate It or Love It
55. Arcade Fire, The Suburbs
54. Toby Keith, Shock’n Y’all
53. Uncle Kracker, No Stranger to Shame
52. Plain White T’s, All That We Needed
51. Imagine Dragons, Smoke + Mirrors
50. Staind, Break the Cycle
49. Miles Davis, Doo Bop
48. Cee Lo Green, Heart Branch
47. 98 Degrees, Revelation
46. Ted Nugent, Cat Scratch Fever
45. Oasis, Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
44. Brad Paisley, Wheelhouse
43. Savage Garden, Savage Garden
42. Josh Groban, Closer
41. Nelly, 5.0
40. Sting, Sacred Love
39. Belle & Sebastian, Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant
38. Orgy, Punk Statik Paranoia
37. The Black Eyed Peas, Elephunk
36. Jack Johnson, In Between Dreams
35. Magic!, Primary Colours
34. Charlie Puth, Nine Track Mind
33. The Strokes, Comedown Machine
32. Enrique Iglesias, Sex and Love
31. Placebo, Placebo
30. Nickelback, Silver Side Up
29. Rapeman, Two Nuns and a Pack Mule
28. Limp Bizkit, Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water
27. Lou Reed, Metal Machine Music
26. The Doors, Strange Days (Is it just me, or have The Doors been getting a lot of hate lately?)
25. James Blunt, Back to Bedlam
24. 311, 311
23. Jay-Z, Kingdom Come
22. Barenaked Ladies, Stunt
21. Matchbox Twenty, Mad Season
20. Robin Thicke, Paula
19. Trapt, Amalgamation
18. Methods of Mayhem, A Public Disservice Announcement
17. Train, Bulletproof Picasso
16. James Taylor, Greatest Hits
15. Justin Timberlake, 20/20 Part II
14. Creed, Human Clay
13. U2, Songs of Innocence
12. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis, This Unruly Mess I’ve Made
11. Joe Scarborough Band, Mystified
10. Maná, Drama y Luz
9. Eminem, Relapse
8. Bruce Willis, The Return of Bruno
7. Bob Dylan, Christmas in the Heart
6. Kevin Federline, Playing With Fire
5. Toby Keith, 35 MPH Town
4. Chainsmokers, Memories... Do Not Open
3. Lou Reed & Metallica, Lulu
2. Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Last Rebel
1. Kid Rock, Rock N Roll Jesus
Obvious choices (Hoobastank, Nickelback, Creed, Kid Rock), some I'd defend to an extent (Twenty One Pilots, Barenaked Ladies, Macklemore, "Songs of Innocence"), some big shock value entries (Kid A, Sgt. Pepper, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot). The "no blurbs so we don't have to listen to these again" justification feels like a lazy way to weasel out of explaining how the more beloved albums wound up here.
http://themuse.jezebel.com/the-150-wors ... 1797242454
Surprising albums in bold.
150. Pearl Jam, No Code
149. Skinny Puppy, Too Dark Park
148. Mother Love Bone, Apple
147. Chris Brown, Graffiti
146. Ace Frehley, Ace Frehley
145. Dave Matthews Band, Before These Crowded Streets
144. Morrissey, Years of Refusal
143. Jay-Z & Linkin Park, Collision Course
142. Good Charlotte, Cardiology
141. Kanye West, 808s and Heartbreaks
140. Stevie Wonder, Characters
139. Big Sean, Finally Famous
138. Jay-Z & R. Kelly, Unfinished Business
137. Guns N Roses, Chinese Democracy
136. Diplo, Decent Work for Decent Pay
135. Dr. Dre, Dr. Dre Presents… The Aftermath
134. Tool, Ænima
133. Chief Keef, Finally Rich
132. Drake, Views (though I can see why)
131. Phish, Lawn Boy
130. David Guetta, Listen
129. Jamie Foxx, Best Night Of My Life
128. Slint, Spiderland
127. Pat Boone, the Greatest Story Ever Told
126. Flo-Rida, Wild Ones
125. Dee Dee Ramone, Dee Dee King
124. The National, Boxer (but I'm not crazy about The National either)
123. Snoop Lion, Reincarnated
122. Julio Iglesias, 1100 Bel Air Place
121. Daniel Powter, Daniel Powter
120. Yung Lean, Unknown Memory
119. Eamon, I Don’t Want You Back
118. Usher, Raymond v. Raymond
117. Stephen Malkmus & the Jicks, Pig Lib
116. Warrant, Cherry Pie
115. Prince, The Rainbow Children
114. The Crystal Method, Tweekend
113. Bon Iver, For Emma, Forever Ago
112. Soulja Boy, iSouljaBoyTellEm
111. Duran Duran, Thank You
110. Gene Simmons, Gene Simmons
109. Neil Young, Are You Passionate?
108. Michael Bolton, Soul Provider
107. Hoobastank, Every Man for Himself
106. Kula Shaker, Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts
105. The Weeknd, Kiss Land
104. The Beatles, Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band ( )
103. Vanilla Ice, Bi-Polar
102. Russell Crowe & The Ordinary Fear of God, My Hand, My Heart
101. Bo Bice, 3
100. Muse, Drones
99. Lifehouse, No Name Face
98. Bobby Brown, The Masterpiece
97. The Cure, Wild Mood Swings
96. The Shins, Oh, Inverted World (Not crazy about The Shins either)
95. Philly’s Most Wanted, Get Down or Lay Down
94. Action Bronson, Mr. Wonderful
93. AC/DC, Fly on the Wall
92. U2, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (I mean, it's not The Joshua Tree, but I'd go with Pop or No Line on the Horizon for a bad U2 album, and neither are that bad)
91. Bee Gees, Living Eyes
90. Ray J, Raydiation
89. Jack White, Blunderbuss
88. Twenty One Pilots, Blurryface
87. The-Dream, IV Play
86. Swedish House Mafia, Until Now
85. Wilco, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
84. Moby, Destroyed
83. Jet, Get Born
82. Jason Mraz, We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things.
81. Gavin DeGraw, Gavin DeGraw
80. Deadmau5, Random Album Title
79. Radiohead, Kid A (Never cared for it, but I don't think it's that bad)
78. Fun, Some Nights
77. One Direction, Four
76. Korn, Korn
75. Coldplay, Ghost Stories
74. Papa Roach, Infest
73. Elvis Presley, Today
72. Robbie Williams, Swing When You’re Winning
71. Giorgio Moroder, Déja-Vu
70. Weezer, Make Believe
69. Ed Sheeran, +
68. Daughtry, Leave This Town
67. Calvin Harris, I Created Disco
66. Maroon 5, Hands All Over
65. Metallica, Death Magnetic
64. Steve Miller Band, The Joker
63. Lil Wayne, Rebirth
62. Mötley Crüe, Generation Swine
61. Timbaland, Shock Value
60. Sufjan Stevens, Illinois
59. The Rolling Stones, Dirty Work
58. Borgore, #NEWGOREORDER
57. Sting, Ten Summoner’s Tales
56. Chingy, Hate It or Love It
55. Arcade Fire, The Suburbs
54. Toby Keith, Shock’n Y’all
53. Uncle Kracker, No Stranger to Shame
52. Plain White T’s, All That We Needed
51. Imagine Dragons, Smoke + Mirrors
50. Staind, Break the Cycle
49. Miles Davis, Doo Bop
48. Cee Lo Green, Heart Branch
47. 98 Degrees, Revelation
46. Ted Nugent, Cat Scratch Fever
45. Oasis, Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
44. Brad Paisley, Wheelhouse
43. Savage Garden, Savage Garden
42. Josh Groban, Closer
41. Nelly, 5.0
40. Sting, Sacred Love
39. Belle & Sebastian, Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant
38. Orgy, Punk Statik Paranoia
37. The Black Eyed Peas, Elephunk
36. Jack Johnson, In Between Dreams
35. Magic!, Primary Colours
34. Charlie Puth, Nine Track Mind
33. The Strokes, Comedown Machine
32. Enrique Iglesias, Sex and Love
31. Placebo, Placebo
30. Nickelback, Silver Side Up
29. Rapeman, Two Nuns and a Pack Mule
28. Limp Bizkit, Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water
27. Lou Reed, Metal Machine Music
26. The Doors, Strange Days (Is it just me, or have The Doors been getting a lot of hate lately?)
25. James Blunt, Back to Bedlam
24. 311, 311
23. Jay-Z, Kingdom Come
22. Barenaked Ladies, Stunt
21. Matchbox Twenty, Mad Season
20. Robin Thicke, Paula
19. Trapt, Amalgamation
18. Methods of Mayhem, A Public Disservice Announcement
17. Train, Bulletproof Picasso
16. James Taylor, Greatest Hits
15. Justin Timberlake, 20/20 Part II
14. Creed, Human Clay
13. U2, Songs of Innocence
12. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis, This Unruly Mess I’ve Made
11. Joe Scarborough Band, Mystified
10. Maná, Drama y Luz
9. Eminem, Relapse
8. Bruce Willis, The Return of Bruno
7. Bob Dylan, Christmas in the Heart
6. Kevin Federline, Playing With Fire
5. Toby Keith, 35 MPH Town
4. Chainsmokers, Memories... Do Not Open
3. Lou Reed & Metallica, Lulu
2. Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Last Rebel
1. Kid Rock, Rock N Roll Jesus
Obvious choices (Hoobastank, Nickelback, Creed, Kid Rock), some I'd defend to an extent (Twenty One Pilots, Barenaked Ladies, Macklemore, "Songs of Innocence"), some big shock value entries (Kid A, Sgt. Pepper, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot). The "no blurbs so we don't have to listen to these again" justification feels like a lazy way to weasel out of explaining how the more beloved albums wound up here.
Music is a world within itself, with a language we all understand - Sir Duke (1976)
Re: NPR: The 150 Greatest Albums Made By Women
Overall interesting list that leans mainstream at times but also surprisingly finds room for Alice Coltrane, Nico, the Raincoats, and Laurie Anderson (the inclusion of these artists makes me surprised/disappointed Julia Holter didn't make it).
I wonder how this one ended up on here given the band is 2/3 male.Pierre wrote: 79 | Portishead | Dummy | 1994
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I'm all for increased popularity of female artists, but why should there be a 50/50 ratio between men and women? In genres like rap, punk, electronic, jazz, metal, etc. there simply aren't enough female artists who've made music worthy of being included in all-time lists (though women have contributed some important albums in each of those genres).Pierre wrote:I see your points and of course I agree. Hopefully the day will come where we'll have lists with a real 50/50 ratio between women and men. And also, I agree 150 is way too short. In the meantime, it's always a good thing to have it so as to balance things out a bit here on AM.Rob wrote:Yes and no. It's true that women are still ignored too much on many lists (although their albums are getting more acclaim nowadays; part of the problem was that they didn't get much attention during the so-called golden days of the sixties). The problem of such a list is that it posits women as a specialty group, perhaps as a genre. It makes them once again an Other. I know this list is meant to be positive, but the fact that nobody would ever see a male-only list as necessary shows we haven't got complete equality yet. You mention yourself a lot of artists that deserve an album on the list. There are even more and most of the women that do rank have multiple deserving albums. 150 is really small for such a small group.Pierre wrote:Whatever, it's already cool that such a list exists in the first place.
Not that the albums selected are bad choices.
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I always go by the perhaps idealistic assumption that we believe some genres have less great female artists because they have in average less media coverage than male artists, and for reasons that can lead to endless discussions less commercial success.Jackson wrote:I'm all for increased popularity of female artists, but why should there be a 50/50 ratio between men and women? In genres like rap, punk, electronic, jazz, metal, etc. there simply aren't enough female artists who've made music worthy of being included in all-time lists (though women have contributed some important albums in each of those genres).Pierre wrote:I see your points and of course I agree. Hopefully the day will come where we'll have lists with a real 50/50 ratio between women and men. And also, I agree 150 is way too short. In the meantime, it's always a good thing to have it so as to balance things out a bit here on AM.Rob wrote:
Yes and no. It's true that women are still ignored too much on many lists (although their albums are getting more acclaim nowadays; part of the problem was that they didn't get much attention during the so-called golden days of the sixties). The problem of such a list is that it posits women as a specialty group, perhaps as a genre. It makes them once again an Other. I know this list is meant to be positive, but the fact that nobody would ever see a male-only list as necessary shows we haven't got complete equality yet. You mention yourself a lot of artists that deserve an album on the list. There are even more and most of the women that do rank have multiple deserving albums. 150 is really small for such a small group.
Not that the albums selected are bad choices.
Perhaps in hip-hop I'm wrong. In electronic, punk, jazz and metal, I'm actually more optimistic. If you go read the specialist press in these genres, they will most likely reflect far more male artists than female ones, but you will also discover a decent amount of great female acts you just never heard about elsewhere. I recently experienced that myself in both metal and electronic music.
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Re: NPR: The 150 Greatest Albums Made By Women
Can we just say that I totally called it?StevieFan13 wrote:Could be a good idea for a tournament here, actuallyPierre wrote:Yeah, I only meant that the list tended to lean toward the mainstream for the last decade, even though there were some more alternative stuff before, and I found it odd. I didn't want to criticize Taylor. In fact, for the mainstream, I regret Carly Rae Jepsen and Rihanna's absence.babydoll wrote: Taylor Swift's Red and 1989 are two of my favorite albums of all time. I think Taylor deserves a spot on here. However, I'm not so sure that Fearless should have been the one to represent Taylor, though. Just because she's not indie doesn't mean she's bad.
Now that I've seen this list, I'm left hungry for more. It would have been easy to push the concept way beyond the #150 mark.
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