❓ Andrew Southwood - 500 Great Albums (2015)

[lagire]

Seems To be an ordered list
https://www.amazon.fr/GREAT-ALBUMS-Engl ... VQ0VW1JQDJ

[Harold]

Who is this guy, though? This looks like a self-published book. Are we just going to start declaring eligible every list ever made by anybody?

[lagire]

Seems to be an author in AHS Publications in London, but don't know more about relation with music.
https://ca.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Andrew/Southwood

[panam]

Who is this guy, though? This looks like a self-published book. Are we just going to start declaring eligible every list ever made by anybody?

Why not?

[Harold]

Seems to be an author in AHS Publications in London, but don't know more about relation with music.
https://ca.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Andrew/Southwood

Hmm, I wonder what the A and S in AHS stand for...

[Harold]

Who is this guy, though? This looks like a self-published book. Are we just going to start declaring eligible every list ever made by anybody?

Why not?

Seriously? So, any time any self-styled music writer decides to self-publish, or post online, a list of his or her 100 or 500 favorite songs or albums, it should be deemed eligible for AM, no questions asked? Maybe Henrik should incorporate our own lists for the forthcoming albums poll (and yes, I'm aware that people in the past have actually asked, half-seriously, whether that was a possibility, and yes, I'm aware that any of our own lists probably have just as much credibility as many of the "official" ones).

[StevieFan13]

Who is this guy, though? This looks like a self-published book. Are we just going to start declaring eligible every list ever made by anybody?

Why not?

Seriously? So, any time any self-styled music writer decides to self-publish, or post online, a list of his or her 100 or 500 favorite songs or albums, it should be deemed eligible for AM, no questions asked? Maybe Henrik should incorporate our own lists for the forthcoming albums poll (and yes, I'm aware that people in the past have actually asked, half-seriously, whether that was a possibility, and yes, I'm aware that any of our own lists probably have just as much credibility as many of the "official" ones).

If it got published by an actual company, it's more legit than just some random schmo's list.

[Harold]

If it got published by an actual company, it's more legit than just some random schmo's list.

But it's not an actual company! I'm pretty sure Southwood IS the company - I'm 99.9999% sure that this is a self-published book. Which makes him exactly the "random schmo" you mention above. Again, that doesn't negate the value of his opinions - it just means that the list shouldn't be included here.

[StevieFan13]

If it got published by an actual company, it's more legit than just some random schmo's list.

But it's not an actual company! I'm pretty sure Southwood IS the company - I'm 99.9999% sure that this is a self-published book. Which makes him exactly the "random schmo" you mention above. Again, that doesn't negate the value of his opinions - it just means that the list shouldn't be included here.

Oh yeah, like that 100 songs book I shared a while back. In which case, yeah, he is a random schmo.

[Henrik]

If it got published by an actual company, it's more legit than just some random schmo's list.

But it's not an actual company! I'm pretty sure Southwood IS the company - I'm 99.9999% sure that this is a self-published book. Which makes him exactly the "random schmo" you mention above. Again, that doesn't negate the value of his opinions - it just means that the list shouldn't be included here.

Oh yeah, like that 100 songs book I shared a while back. In which case, yeah, he is a random schmo.

That 100 songs book (Eric Mack, right?) was an e-book only, while this is also a printed book. If I would exclude this list from AM, that would really be an exception from all other books that have ever been suggested to me. It is however kind of refreshing that the eligibilty is questioned by somebody else for a change. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one who think there should be any rules at all. Harold, is this a one-thing, or do you think that I have accepted too many other lists, and this was the drop that got the cup to flow over (as we say in Sweden)?

[StevieFan13]

But it's not an actual company! I'm pretty sure Southwood IS the company - I'm 99.9999% sure that this is a self-published book. Which makes him exactly the "random schmo" you mention above. Again, that doesn't negate the value of his opinions - it just means that the list shouldn't be included here.

Oh yeah, like that 100 songs book I shared a while back. In which case, yeah, he is a random schmo.

That 100 songs book (Eric Mack, right?) was an e-book only, while this is also a printed book. If I would exclude this list from AM, that would really be an exception from all other books that have ever been suggested to me. It is however kind of refreshing that the eligibilty is questioned by somebody else for a change. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one who think there should be any rules at all. Harold, is this a one-thing, or do you think that I have accepted too many other lists, and this was the drop that got the cup to flow over (as we say in Sweden)?

Yeah, that's the one. I try to stay mindful of the rules - only way to get an accurate picture. I remember that book of '80s and '70s songs I suggested is a similar criteria to this one, and it was declared eligible (and I sure hope it's still eligible).

[Harold]

That 100 songs book (Eric Mack, right?) was an e-book only, while this is also a printed book. If I would exclude this list from AM, that would really be an exception from all other books that have ever been suggested to me. It is however kind of refreshing that the eligibilty is questioned by somebody else for a change. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one who think there should be any rules at all. Harold, is this a one-thing, or do you think that I have accepted too many other lists, and this was the drop that got the cup to flow over (as we say in Sweden)?

I don't know why I reacted so strongly - it might just be list fatigue, or something. Are there other similar, completely self-published books by otherwise unknown writers that are included on AM? If the only criterion is, "if it's available between actual bound covers, it's eligible," then I guess there's no need to set a precedent. But that opens the door to ... well, to exactly this kind of thing.

[StevieFan13]

That 100 songs book (Eric Mack, right?) was an e-book only, while this is also a printed book. If I would exclude this list from AM, that would really be an exception from all other books that have ever been suggested to me. It is however kind of refreshing that the eligibilty is questioned by somebody else for a change. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one who think there should be any rules at all. Harold, is this a one-thing, or do you think that I have accepted too many other lists, and this was the drop that got the cup to flow over (as we say in Sweden)?

I don't know why I reacted so strongly - it might just be list fatigue, or something. Are there other similar, completely self-published books by otherwise unknown writers that are included on AM? If the only criterion is, "if it's available between actual bound covers, it's eligible," then I guess there's no need to set a precedent. But that opens the door to ... well, to exactly this kind of thing.

I think getting it published physically as opposed to digitally, especially if the author fancies themselves some kind of music critic, adds a level of legitimacy that just quickly publishing it for cheap online doesn't. And eligibility is something I've monitored with both the lists I've shared and others' (such as the recent influx of New Zealand lists).

[panam]

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/258 ... eat-albums