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Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby EmilienDelRey » Fri May 27, 2016 5:12 pm

TOP 10 DES CHANSONS QUI ONT MARQUÉ L’ANNÉE 1966 & 1969

http://www.zicabloc.com/chansons-1966

1966:

1. La poupée qui fait non, Michel Polnareff
2. When a man loves a woman, Percy Sledge
3. Si j’étais un charpentier, Johnny Hallyday
4. These boots are made for walking, Nancy Sinatra
5. La Bohème, Charles Aznavour
6. Wild Thing, The Troggs
7. Et moi, et moi, et moi, Jacques Dutronc
8. Good Vibrations, The Beach Boys
9. Céline, Hugues Aufray
10. Paint it, black, The Rolling Stones

http://www.zicabloc.com/chansons-1969

1969:

1. Vesoul – Jacques Brel
2. Sympathy for the devil – The Rolling Stones
3. Le Métèque – Georges Moustaki
4. Je t’aime (moi non plus) – Birkin et Gainsbourg
5. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da – The Beatles
6. I strated a joke – Bee Gees
7. My Way – Frank Sinatra
8. Que je t’aime – Johnny Hallyday
9. Whole Lotta Love – Led Zeppelin
10. C’est extra – Léo Ferré

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TOP 10 MUSIQUE ANNÉES 60

Postby EmilienDelRey » Fri May 27, 2016 5:14 pm

http://www.zicabloc.com/top-musique-annees-60

1 – Bob Dylan / Like a Rolling Stone
2 – The Rolling Stones / Satisfaction
3 – The Doors / Light My Fire
4 – The Beatles / Hey Jude
5 – Led Zeppelin / Whole Lotta Love
6 – Beach Boys / Surfing USA
7 – Jimi Hendrix / Hey Joe
8 – Johnny Halliday / L’idole des jeunes
9 – Georges Brassens / Les copains d’abord
10 – The Velvet Underground / I’m waiting for the man

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Postby Henrik » Sun May 29, 2016 12:05 pm

Is anyone familiar with this website? It doesn't have the most "professional" look and the comments to these songs are extremely sparse.
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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby EmilienDelRey » Sun May 29, 2016 3:39 pm

Henrik wrote:Is anyone familiar with this website? It doesn't have the most "professional" look and the comments to these songs are extremely sparse.


I presume nobody.
Some of their comments are casual for sure, but IMO that's part of the website concept.
Do their alexa rank (circa 500,000th worldwide) makes them sufficiently regarded to be included on Discogs?
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Postby Henrik » Sun May 29, 2016 3:44 pm

EmilienDelRey wrote:Do their alexa rank (circa 500,000th worldwide) makes them sufficiently regarded to be included on Discogs?

I can't speak for them... :D

The Alexa rank is surprisingly good if, as you say, nobody here is familiar with the website.
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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby EmilienDelRey » Sun May 29, 2016 4:15 pm

Henrik wrote:
EmilienDelRey wrote:Do their alexa rank (circa 500,000th worldwide) makes them sufficiently regarded to be included on Discogs?

I can't speak for them... :D

The Alexa rank is surprisingly good if, as you say, nobody here is familiar with the website.


I just checked the Linkedin page of the website owner, François Grimpret. He has written a book about Rock music (http://www.camionblanc.com/detail-livre ... st-633.php), studied contemporary history at La Sorbonne where he has written essays about Music (Janis Joplin, the counterculture, grunge music...) and worked for Topito (a well-known website in France).

He says that there are 110.000 visitors on his website each month in 2014.

If you have Linkedin, here is his profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fran%C3%A7o ... t-a6195258
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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby Dexter » Mon May 30, 2016 2:13 pm

Pretentious or not, eligible or not please post the site's year-end top 10, even beyond the 1960's. Surprisingly, I dig all the french songs included here.

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Postby Henrik » Mon May 30, 2016 2:30 pm

If it is a single writer, then the lists by year are not eligible.
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TOP 100 DES MEILLEURES CHANSONS DE TOUS LES TEMPS SELON ZICABLOC (2015)

Postby EmilienDelRey » Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:57 pm

I allow myself to bump this because they also published their top 100 songs of all time last year :

http://www.zicabloc.com/top-100-des-mei ... ylist-avec

1. Arthur C. Clarke’s Mysterious World, The Divine Comedy, Victory for the comic muse, 2006.
2. Smells like teen spirit, Nirvana, Nevermind, 1991.
3. Don’t let me down, The Beatles, single, 1969.
4. Les lacets, JP Nataf, Clair, 2009.
5. Cigarette, Saez, J’accuse, 2010.
6. I say a little prayer, Aretha Franklin, single, 1967.
7. Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Pink Floyd, Wish You Were Here, 1975.
8. L’amour et la mort, Bernard Lavilliers, 15e Round, 1977.
9. Que devient ton poing quand tu tends les doigts, Miossec, Boire, 1995.
10. Lost in the supermarket, The Clash, London Calling, 1979.
11. Johnny B. Goode, Chuck Berry, single, 1958.
12. You cry, Sloy, Plug, 1995.
13. Honey and the Moon, Joseph Arthur, Redemption’s Son, 2002.
14. As Happy As Possible, Les Thugs, éponyme, 1993.
15. Initials BB, Serge Gainsbourg, éponyme, 1968.
16. Softer, Softest, Hole, Live through this, 1995.
17. The only living boy in New York, Simon & Garfunkel, Bridge Over Troubled Water, 1970.
18. Perfect Day, Lou Reed, Transformers, 1972.
19. Quand la bouteille est vide, Jean-Jacques Goldman, Minoritaire, 1982.
20. Disarm, Smashing Pumpkins, Siamese Dream, 1993.
21. The Sound of the Suburbs, The Members, single, 1979.
22. Atomic, Blondie, Eat to the beat, 1979.
23. Like a rolling stone, Bob Dylan, Highway 61 Revisited, 1965.
24. Natural Mystic, Bob Marley, Exodus, 1977.
25. Kozmic Blues, Janis Joplin, I Got Dem Ol’ Kozmic Blues Again Mama!, 1969.
26. Aberdeen, Cage the Elephant, Thank You, Happy Birthday, 2011.
27. Dearest (Ummm Oh Yeah), Buddy Holly, 1957.
28. Fool to cry, The Rolling Stones, Black and Blue, 1976.
29. Unstookie Titled, Babyshambles, Shotter’s Nation, 2007.
30. Madame rêve, Alain Bashung, Osez Joséphine, 1991.
31. Des visages des figures, Noir Désir, éponyme, 2001.
32. Can’t Help Falling in Love, Elvis Presley, single, 1961.
33. Minha Galera, Manu Chao, Clandestino, 1998.
34. Will you be there, Michael Jackson, Dangerous, 1991.
35. Demain c’est loin, IAM, L’école du micro d’argent, 1997.
36. Il ne rentre pas ce soir, Eddy Mitchell, Après minuit, 1978.
37. Blister in the sun, Violent Femmes, éponyme, 1982.
38. You only live once, The Strokes, First Impressions of Hearth, 2006.
39. Unpretty, TLC, FanMail, 1999.
40. I Wanna Be Your Dog, The Stooges, éponyme, 1969.
41. Come Out And Play, Offspring, Smash, 1994.
42. You really got me, Kinks, éponyme, 1964.
43. Close To Me, The Cure, The head on the door, 1985.
44. Sara Perche Ti Amo, Ricchi e Poveri, E penso a te, 1981.
45. Welcome Gorby, Renaud, single, 1992.
46. Killing In The Name, Rage Against The Machine, éponyme, 1993.
47. Fake Plastic Trees, The Bends, 1995.
48. Losing My Religion, R.E.M., Out Of Time, 1991.
49. Les remorques, Les Innocents, Fous à lier, 1992.
50. Solsbury Hill, Peter Gabriel, Peter Gabriel (Car), 1977.
51. Hurt, Nine Inch Nails, The Downward Spiral, 1994.
52. La Poupée qui fait non, Michel Polnareff, single, 1966.
53. Heartbreaker, Mariah Carey, Rainbow, 1999.
54. Ziggy Stardust, David Bowie, The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars, 1972.
55. Politik, Coldplay, A Rush of Blood to the Head, 2002.
56. Valentine, Chokebore, Black Black, 1998.
57. Adeline, Johnny Hallyday, Dans la chaleur de Bercy, 1990.
58. Ring of fire, Johnny Cash, single, 1963.
59. Mother, John Lennon,John Lennon : Plastic Ono Band, 1970.
60. Many Rivers To Cross, Jimmy Cliff,The Harder They Come, 1972.
61. Des fleurs pour Salinger, Indochine, Le Baiser, 1990.
62. Always on My Mind, Brenda Lee, single, 1972.
63. Kashmir, Led Zeppelin, Physical Graffiti, 1975.
64. Love Is All Around, The Troggs, Cellophane, 1967.
65. What Would The Community Think, Cat Power, éponyme, 1996.
66. Here, Pavement, Slanted and Enchanted, 1992.
67. Tu ne pourras plus jamais m’oublier, Herbert Léonard, Laissez-nous rêver, 1987.
68. ABC, Jackson Five, éponyme, 1970.
69. Feel the pain, Dinosaur Jr, Without a Sound, 1994.
70. Hanky Panky Nohow, John Cale, Paris 1919, 1973.
71. Amoureuse, Véronique Sanson, éponyme, 1972.
72. To all of you, Syd Matters, Someday We Will Foresee Obstacles, 2005.
73. You got me, The Roots feat. Erikah Badu, Things Fall Apart, 1999.
74. Exhausted, Foo Fighters, éponyme, 1995.
75. Come On Eileen, Dexys Midnight Runners, Too-Rye-Ay, 1982.
76. Another girl, another planet, The Only Ones, 1978.
77. Celsius, Kent, Isola, 1997.
78. Dans les yeux d’Émilie, Joe Dassin, Les Femmes de ma vie, 1978.
79. Someone like you, Adele, 21, 2011.
80. Shine on my way, Patrice, 2001.
81. Silence, Matisyahu, 2009.
82. (You) Got want i need, Freddie Scott, 1968.
83. Open Book, Cake, Fashion Nugget, 1996.
84. Karen, The Go-Betwwens, single, 1978.
85. Lean on me, Bill Withers, 1972.
86. Rock’n’dollars, William Sheller, éponyme, 1975.
87. Common People, Pulp, Different Class, 1995.
88. I wanna be sedated, The Ramones, 1978.
89. One, two, me and you, The Little Rabbits, Grand Public, 1996.
90. Self Esteem, The Offspring, Smash, 1994.
91. Silence, The Ting Tings, Sounds from nowheresville, 2012.
92. There she goes, The La’s, éponyme, 1990.
93. The Wind cries Mary, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, 1967.
94. Laisse pas trainer ton fils, Suprême NTM, éponyme, 1998.
95. King Kong Five, Mano Negra, Puta’s Fever, 1989.
96. Tiny Dangers, Arch Woodmann, Mighty Scotland, 2010.
97. Song For Guy, Elton John, A Single Man, 1978.
98. Spread, Watermelon Club, [stri:m], 1997.
99. Ton nez, ton cou, ton parfum, Boochon, Les femmes préfèrent prendre le bus, 1996.
100. Ainsi soit-il, Vera Cruz, Demain est un autre aujourd’hui, 2003.

At the end of the page, it's implied that the list was compiled by a team : "Les membres du comité de sélection"

Is it eligible?

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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby Henrik » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:35 am

Thanks EmilienDelRey! I might include that all-time list.

I don't think I will include the year lists though. From what I understand the titles are "The top 10 songs that marked the year". I think they are recaps of songs that was popular in France, rather than lists of the best music. Or how would you otherwise explain these selections from 2004:

http://www.zicabloc.com/chansons-2004

1. Les Choristes, Vois sur ton chemin
2. Kyo, Le Chemin
3. K-Maro, Femme like you
4. Black Eyed Peas, Shut up
5. Aventura, Obsesion
6. Placebo, The bitter end
7. Corneille, Parce qu’on vient de loin
8. Calogero feat. Passi, Face à la mer
9. O-Zone, Dragostea din tei
10. Francis Cabrel, Bonne nouvelle
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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby Henrik » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:41 am

Perhaps the decade lists could be included too.

http://www.zicabloc.com/top-musique-annees-60

1 – Bob Dylan / Like a Rolling Stone
2 – The Rolling Stones / Satisfaction
3 – The Doors / Light My Fire
4 – The Beatles / Hey Jude
5 – Led Zeppelin / Whole Lotta Love
6 – Beach Boys / Surfing USA
7 – Jimi Hendrix / Hey Joe
8 – Johnny Halliday / L’idole des jeunes
9 – Georges Brassens / Les copains d’abord
10 – The Velvet Underground / I’m waiting for the man


http://www.zicabloc.com/top-musique-annees-70

1 – Gloria Gaynor / I will survive
2 – The Jackson Five / ABC
3 – Donna Summer / Hot Stuff
4 – Lynyrd Skynyrd / Sweet Home Alabama
5 – Barry White / You are the first, my last, my everything
6 – Elton John / Crocodile rock
7 – Claude François / C’est la même chanson
8 – Renaud / Laisse béton
9 – The Temptations / Papa was a Rolling Stone
10 – Johnny Hallyday / Gabrielle


http://www.zicabloc.com/top-musique-annees-80

1 – Michael Jackson / Billie Jean
2 – Prince / Kiss
3 – The Clash / Should i stay or should i go
4 – Bruce Springsteen / Born in the USA
5 – Frankie Goes To Hollywood / Relax
6 – David Bowie / Let’s dance
7 – Daniel Balavoine / L’Aziza
8 – Gilbert Montagné / On va s’aimer
9 – Cyndi Lauper / Girls just want to have fun
10 – Bob Marley / Could you be loved
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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby EmilienDelRey » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:58 am

Henrik wrote:Thanks EmilienDelRey! I might include that all-time list.

I don't think I will include the year lists though. From what I understand the titles are "The top 10 songs that marked the year". I think they are recaps of songs that was popular in France, rather than lists of the best music. Or how would you otherwise explain these selections from 2004:

http://www.zicabloc.com/chansons-2004


You're welcome! Otherwise, I agree with you concerning the year lists.

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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby JR » Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:47 pm

That all-time list is... peculiar. But, variety is the spice of Acclaimed Music life. :mrgreen:

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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby Henrik » Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:29 pm

JR wrote:That all-time list is... peculiar.

It is indeed. Almost every song is either highly acclaimed or has never appeared in any other critics' lists (even though I have several lenghty French chansons lists in my spreadsheet). No less than half of the top 20 has never appeared in other critics' lists, see list below.

1. The Divine Comedy | Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World
4. J.P. Nataf | Les Lacets
5. Saez | Cigarette
8. Bernard Lavilliers | L’amour et la mort
9. Miossec | Que devient ton poing quand tu tends les doigts
12. Sloy | You Cry
13. Joseph Arthur | Honey and the Moon
14. Les Thugs | As Happy as Possible
16. Hole | Softer, Softest
19. Jean-Jacques Goldman | Quand la bouteille est vide
26. Cage the Elephant | Aberdeen
27. Buddy Holly | Dearest (Ummm Oh Yeah)
29. Babyshambles | Unstookie Titled
33. Manu Chao | Minha Galera
45. Renaud | Welcome Gorby
49. Les Innocents | Les remorques
56. Chokebore | Valentine
57. Johnny Hallyday | Adeline
61. Indochine | Des fleurs pour Salinger
62. Brenda Lee | Always on My Mind
65. Cat Power | What Would the Community Think
67. Herbert Léonard | Tu ne pourras plus jamais m’oublier
70. John Cale | Hanky Panky Nohow
72. Syd Matters | To All of You
74. Foo Fighters | Exhausted
77. Kent | Celsius
78. Joe Dassin | Dans les yeux d’Émilie
80. Patrice | Shine on My Way
81. Matisyahu | Silence
82. Freddie Scott | (You) Got What I Need
83. Cake | Open Book
84. The Go-Betweens | Karen
89. The Little Rabbits | One, Two, Me and You
91. The Ting Tings | Silence
96. Arch Woodmann | Tiny Dangers
98. Watermelon Club | Spread
99. Boochon | Ton nez, ton cou, ton parfum
100. Vera Cruz | Ainsi soit-il

I'm unfamiliar with most of these songs. It would be great if someone (French) could confirm that there are not a lot of "jokes" in this list.
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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby JR » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:56 pm

Of all the Michael Jackson tracks, "Will You Be There"? There also are tracks that have received very mild acclaim thus far (for instance, Mariah Carey's "Heartbreaker," which I'd hardly consider one of her best- those verses sound like she's sleepwalking through em, and the beat itself is similar to "Fantasy," even though they sample different tracks).

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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby Henrik » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:57 pm

Songs that will be added to AM because of Zicabloc's all-time and decade lists:

Coldplay | Politik
Elton John | Song for Guy
IAM | Demain c'est loin
Johnny Hallyday | L’Idole des jeunes
Véronique Sanson | Amoureuse
William Sheller | Rock 'n' Dollars
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Re: Zicabloc (France) - 1960s lists

Postby Pierre » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:17 pm

Henrik wrote:Songs that will be added to AM because of Zicabloc's all-time and decade lists:

Coldplay | Politik
Elton John | Song for Guy
IAM | Demain c'est loin
Johnny Hallyday | L’Idole des jeunes
Véronique Sanson | Amoureuse
William Sheller | Rock 'n' Dollars


I don't like "L'Idole des jeunes" or Johnny's yéyé period as a whole, but that's a tribute I'm OK to pay if it means "Demain c'est loin" gets in :D This track is the all time masterpiece of French hip-hop.


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