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Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Henrik » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:00 am

The website Ultimate Classic Rock has lists of 100 albums from the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/classic-rock-lists/

They are, however, presented as photo galleries rather than as lists. Who wants to click 100 times to see the albums, with no possibility to get an overlook of the list? Complex and maybe others as well are doing the same thing. Why? Boo!

Anyway I'm thinking about adding these lists, so if someone would like to type down the albums here that would be super.
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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Pierre » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:33 am

I'll do it later today (a bit busy right now). Although a list which omits MBV's "Loveless" is bound to annoy me but it might not be classic rock enough for some tastes...

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby bootsy » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:47 pm

What makes this site different from Complex. I didn't see any reviews on that site which was one of your(Henrik) criteria for why you wouldn't add some of the Complex lists I and others suggested. I don't think this is any different than Complex so why add this if you aren't going to add the Complex lists. So sick of the double standard. Just because this is a list with rock albums doesn't make it more worthy. I don't feel this should added unless you are going to add lists from Complex as well. This was your explanation for not including 'EOY 2014 Complex's 50 Best Albums of 2014' viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2408

Henrik wrote:The stricter rules are necessary for eoy lists, as there would be hundreds of lists without them, and the main sources would drown among all lists. Even when using these rules, there are over 100 albums lists. I know it doesn't make perfect sense to include some Complex lists and some not, but this is the best solution I have come up with.

The reviews criterion is perhaps most important for songs lists, as there are a lot of entertainment/music news sites that lists the top songs of the year. Those lists are basically the bestselling singles.

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Pierre » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:25 pm

Top 100 '60s Rock Albums:

The Beatles | Please Please Me | 1963
Bob Dylan |The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan | 1963
The Beatles | With the Beatles | 1963
The Beatles | A Hard Days' Night | 1964
The Animals | The Animals | 1964
The Beatles | Beatles for Sale | 1964
The Rolling Stones | The Rolling Stones, Now! | 1965
Bob Dylan | Bringing It All Back Home | 1965
The Beatles | Help! | 1965
The Byrds | Mr. Tambourine Man | 1965
The Rolling Stones | Out of Our Heads | 1965
The Beach Boys | The Beach Boys Today! | 1965
Bob Dylan | Highway 61 Revisited | 1965
The Paul Butterfield Blues Band | The Paul Butterfield Blues Band | 1965
The Yardbirds | Having a Rave Up with the Yardbirds | 1965
The Beatles | Rubber Soul | 1965
The Who | My Generation | 1965
The Rolling Stones | Aftermath |1966
The Beach Boys | Pet Sounds | 1966
Bob Dylan | Blonde on Blonde | 1966
The Mothers of Invention | Freak Out! | 1966
John Mayall | Blues Breakers with Eric Clapton | 1966
The Yardbirds | Roger the Engineer | 1966
Donovan | Sunshine Superman | 1966
The Beatles | Revolver | 1966
Simon and Garfunkel | Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme | 1966
Cream | Fresh Cream | 1966
The Who | A Quick One | 1966
The Doors | The Doors | 1967
The Rolling Stones | Between the Buttons | 1967
The Byrds | Younger Than Yesterday | 1967
Jefferson Airplane | Surrealistic Pillow | 1967
The Velvet Underground and Nico | The Velvet Underground and Nico | 1967
The Jimi Hendrix Experience | Are You Experienced | 1967
The Beatles | Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band | 1967
Moby Grape | Moby Grape | 1967
Pink Floyd | The Piper at the Gates of Dawn | 1967
The Doors | Strange Days | 1967
The Kinks | Something Else by the Kinks | 1967
Buffalo Springfield | Buffalo Springfield Again | 1967
The Beatles | Magical Mystery Tour | 1967
Cream | Disraeli Gears | 1967
Love | Forever Changes | 1967
The Moody Blues | Days of Future Passed | 1967
The Jimi Hendrix Experience | Axis: Bold as Love | 1967
Bob Dylan | John Wesley Harding | 1967
The Who | The Who Sell Out | 1967
The Small Faces | There Are But Four Small Faces | 1967
Traffic | Mr. Fantasy | 1967
The Byrds | The Notorious Byrd Brothers | 1967
The Velvet Underground | White Light/White Heat | 1968
Blue Cheer | Vincebus Eruptum |1968
Steppenwolf | Steppenwolf | 1968
Blood, Sweat & Tears | Child Is Father to the Man | 1968
Fleetwood Mac | Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac | 1968
The Mothers of Invention | We're Only in It for the Money | 1968
Simon and Garfunkel | Bookends | 1968
The Zombies | Odessey and Oracle | 1968
The Small Faces | Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake | 1968
Iron Butterfly | In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida | 1968
The Band | Music from Big Pink | 1968
Cream | Wheels of Fire | 1968
The Grateful Dead | Anthem of the Sun |1968
Bloomfield - Kooper - Stills | Super Session | 1968
Big Brother & the Holding Company | Cheap Thrills | 1968
The Byrds | Sweetheart of the Rodeo | 1968
Jeff Beck | Truth | 1968
Jimi Hendrix | Electric Ladyland | 1968
The Beatles | The Beatles | 1968
The Kinks | The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society | 1968
Van Morrison | Astral Weeks | 1968
The Rolling Stones | Beggars Banquet | 1968
Led Zeppelin | Led Zeppelin | 1969
The Flying Burrito Brothers | The Gilded Palace of Sin | 1969
MC5 | Kick Out the Jams | 1969
Quicksilver Messenger Service | Happy Trails | 1969
The Velvet Underground | The Velvet Underground | 1969
Joe Cocker | With a Little Help from My Friends | 1969
Crosby, Stills & Nash | Crosby, Stills & Nash | 1969
The Who | Tommy | 1969
Neil Young with Crazy Horse | Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere | 1969
Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band | Trout Mask Replica | 1969
Jeff Beck | Beck-Ola | 1969
Delaney & Bonnie | Accept No Substitutes | 1969
Creedence Clearwater Revival | Green River | 1969
Santana | Santana | 1969
The Stooges | The Stooges | 1969
Blind Faith | Blind Faith | 1969
The Beatles | Abbey Road | 1969
The Band | The Band | 1969
Led Zeppelin | Led Zeppelin II | 1969
King Crimson | In the Court of the Crimson King | 1969
Creedence Clearwater Revival | Willy and the Poor Boys | 1969
The Grateful Dead | Live/Dead | 1969
Jefferson Airplane | Volunteers | 1969
David Bowie | Space Oddity | 1969
The Allman Brothers Band | The Allman Brothers Band | 1969
The Rolling Stones | Let It Bleed | 1969
Boz Scaggs | Boz Scaggs | 1969
Grand Funk Railroad | Grand Funk | 1969

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Pierre » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:48 pm

Top 100 '70s Rock Albums:

Simon and Garfunkel | Bridge Over Troubled Water | 1970
Black Sabbath | Black Sabbath | 1970
Van Morrison | Moondance | 1970
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young |Déjà vu | 1970
The Beatles | Let It Be | 1970
The Who | Live at Leeds | 1970
The Grateful Dead | Workingman's Dead | 1970
The Stooges | Fun House | 1970
Creedence Clearwater Revival | Cosmo's Factory | 1970
Neil Young | After the Gold Rush | 1970
Black Sabbath | Paranoid | 1970
Santana | Abraxas | 1970
Led Zeppelin | Led Zeppelin III | 1970
George Harrison | All Things Must Pass | 1970
Derek and the Dominos | Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs | 1970
The Velvet Underground | Loaded | 1970
The Grateful Dead | American Beauty | 1970
John Lennon | John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band |1970
Alice Cooper | Love It to Death | 1970
Janis Joplin | Pearl | 1971
Jethro Tull | Aqualung | 1971
The Rolling Stones | Sticky Fingers | 1971
The Doors | L.A. Woman | 1971
Rod Stewart | Every Picture Tells a Story | 1971
The Allman Brothers Band | At Fillmore East | 1971
Black Sabbath | Masters of Reality | 1971
The Who | Who's Next | 1971
John Lennon | Imagine | 1971
T. Rex | Electric Warrior | 1971
Led Zeppelin | Led Zeppelin IV | 1971
Yes | Fragile | 1971
David Bowie | Hunky Dory | 1971
Paul Simon | Paul Simon | 1972
Neil Young | Harvest | 1972
Todd Rundgren | Something/Anything? | 1972
Deep Purple | Machine Head | 1972
The Rolling Stones | Exile on Main St. | 1972
David Bowie | The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars | 1972
Steely Dan | Can't Buy a Thrill | 1972
The Stooges | Raw Power | 1973
Alice Cooper | Billon Dollar Babies | 1973
Led Zeppelin | Houses of the Holy | 1973
Pink Floyd | The Dark Side of the Moon | 1973
ZZ Top | Tres Hombres | 1973
Mott the Hoople | Mott | 1973
Lynyrd Skynyrd | (Pronounced Leh-Nerd Skin-Nerd) | 1973
Montrose | Montrose | 1973
The Who | Quadrophenia | 1973
Elton John | Goodbye Yellow Brick Road | 1973
Paul McCartney and Wings | Band on the Run | 1973
Eric Clapton | 461 Ocean Boulevard | 1974
Bachman-Turner Overdrive | Not Fragile | 1974
Jackson Browne | Late for the Sky | 1974
Bob Dylan | Blood on the Tracks | 1975
Led Zeppelin | Physical Graffiti | 1975
Rush | Fly by Night | 1975
Aerosmith | Toys in the Attic | 1975
Elton John | Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy | 1975
Neil Young | Tonight's the Night | 1975
Bob Dylan & the Band | The Basement Tapes | 1975
Fleetwood Mac | Fleetwood Mac | 1975
Bruce Springsteen | Born to Run | 1975
Kiss | Alive! | 1975
Ted Nugent | Ted Nugent | 1975
Pink Floyd | Wish You Were Here | 1975
Queen | A Night at the Opera | 1975
Ramones | Ramones | 1976
Kiss | Destroyer | 1976
Thin Lizzy | Jailbreak | 1976
Rush | 2112 | 1976
Aerosmith | Rocks | 1976
The Steve Miller Band | Fly Like an Eagle | 1976
Boston | Boston | 1976
Eagles | Hotel California | 1976
Pink Floyd | Animals | 1977
David Bowie | Low | 1977
Fleetwood Mac | Rumours | 1977
AC/DC | Let There Be Rock | 1977
Cheap Trick | In Color | 1977
Steely Dan | Aja | 1977
Billy Joel | The Stranger | 1977
The Sex Pistols | Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols | 1977
Meat Loaf | Bat Out of Hell | 1977
Eric Clapton | Slowhand | 1977
Van Halen | Van Halen | 1978
Elvis Costello and the Attractions | This Year's Model | 1978
The Rolling Stones | Some Girls | 1978
The Cars | The Cars | 1978
Bruce Springsteen | Darkness on the Edge of Town | 1978
Blondie | Parallel Lines | 1978
Billy Joel | 52nd Street | 1978
The Police | Outlandos d'Amour | 1978
Cheap Trick | At Budokan | 1979
Neil Young and Crazy Horse | Rust Never Sleeps | 1979
AC/DC | Highway to Hell | 1979
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers | Damn the Torpedoes | 1979
ZZ Top |Degüello | 1979
Pink Floyd | The Wall | 1979
The Police | Reggatta de Blanc | 1979
The Clash | London Calling | 1979

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Pierre » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:11 pm

Top 100 '80s Rock Albums:

Pretenders | Pretenders | 1980
Rush | Permanent Waves | 1980
Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band | Against the Wind | 1980
Elvis Costello and the Attractions | Get Happy!! | 1980
Van Halen | Women and Children First | 1980
Black Sabbath | Heaven and Hell | 1980
Judas Priest | British Steel | 1980
Pete Townshend | Empty Glass | 1980
AC/DC | Back in Black | 1980
David Bowie | Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps) | 1980
Ozzy Osbourne | Blizzard of Ozz | 1980
Bruce Springsteen | The River | 1980
Dire Straits | Making Movies | 1980
Talking Heads | Remain in Light | 1980
John Lennon & Yoko Ono | Double Fantasy | 1980
The Clash | Sandinista! | 1980
Phil Collins | Face Value | 1980
Styx | Paradise Theatre | 1981
Rush | Moving Pictures | 1981
The Police | Ghost in the Machine | 1981
Billy Squier | Don't Say No | 1981
Van Halen | Fair Warning | 1981
Foreigner | 4 | 1981
Journey | Escape | 1981
Stevie Nicks | Bella Donna | 1981
The Rolling Stones | Tattoo You | 1981
Genesis | Abacab | 1981
King Crimson | Discipline | 1981
Mötley Crüe | Too Fast for Love | 1981
Ozzy Osbourne | Diary of a Mad Man | 1981
Asia | Asia | 1982
Iron Maiden | The Number of the Beast | 1982
Richard and Linda Thompson | Shoot Out the Lights | 1982
Paul McCartney | Tug of War | 1982
Toto | Toto IV | 1982
Roxy Music | Avalon | 1982
Fleetwood Mac | Mirage | 1982
Joe Jackson | Night and Day | 1982
Elvis Costello | Imperial Bedroom | 1982
Judas Priest | Screaming for Vengeance | 1982
Bruce Springsteen | Nebraska | 1982
Peter Gabriel | Security | 1982
Kiss | Creatures of the Night | 1982
Def Leppard | Pyromania | 1983
ZZ Top | Eliminator | 1983
David Bowie | Let's Dance | 1983
Dio | Holy Diver | 1983
Iron Maiden | Piece of Mind | 1983
Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble | Texas Flood | 1983
The Police | Synchronicity | 1983
Metallica | Kill 'Em All | 1983
Billy Joel | Innocent Man | 1983
Mötley Crüe | Shout at the Devil | 1983
Billy Idol | Rebel Yell | 1983
Yes | 90125 | 1983
Van Halen | 1984 | 1984
The Cars | Heartbeat City | 1984
Twisted Sister | Stay Hungry | 1984
Bruce Springsteen | Born in the USA | 1984
Metallica | Ride the Lightning | 1984
Talking Heads | Stop Making Sense | 1984
Bryan Adams | Reckless | 1984
Don Henley | Building the Perfect Beast | 1984
Los Lobos | How Will the Wolf Survive? | 1984
John Fogerty | Centerfield | 1985
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers | Southern Accents | 1985
Dire Straits | Brothers in Arms | 1985
Sting | The Dream of the Blue Turtles | 1985
John Cougar Mellencamp | Scarecrow | 1985
Tom Waits | Rain Dogs | 1985
Bob Dylan | Biograph | 1985
Metallica | Master of Puppets | 1986
Van Halen | 5150 | 1986
Peter Gabriel | So | 1986
David Lee Roth | Eat 'Em and Smile | 1986
Bon Jovi | Slippery When Wet | 1986
Motörhead | Orgasmatron | 1986
Paul Simon | Graceland | 1986
Def Leppard | Hysteria | 1987
U2 | The Joshua Tree | 1987
The Cult | Electric | 1987
Guns N' Roses | Appetite for Destruction | 1987
John Cougar Mellencamp | The Lonesome Jubilee | 1987
Warren Zevon | Sentimental Hygiene | 1987
Bruce Springsteen | Tunnel of Love | 1987
Joe Satriani | Surfing with the Alien | 1987
Robert Plant | Now and Zen | 1988
Eric Clapton | Crossroads | 1988
Living Colour | Vivid | 1988
Jane's Addiction | Nothing's Shocking | 1988
Metallica | ...And Justice for All | 1988
Keith Richards | Talk Is Cheap | 1988
The Traveling Wilburys | Traveling Wilburys, Volume One | 1989
Lou Reed | New York | 1989
Tom Petty | Full Moon Fever | 1989
Don Henley | The End of the Innocence | 1989
Aerosmith | Pump | 1989
Bob Dylan | Oh Mercy | 1989
Mötley Crüe | Dr. Feelgood | 1989
Neil Young | Freedom | 1989

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Pierre » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:36 pm

Top 100 '90s Rock Albums:

The Black Crowes | Shake Your Money Maker | 1990
Damn Yankees | Damn Yankees | 1990
Midnight Oil | Blue Sky Mining | 1990
Robert Plant | Manic Nirvana | 1990
Billy Idol | Charmed Life | 1990
Jeff Lynne | Armchair Theatre | 1990
The Allman Brothers Band | Seven Turns | 1990
Jane's Addiction | Ritual do lo Habitual | 1990
Living Colour | Time's Up | 1990
Queensrÿche | Empire | 1990
AC/DC | The Razors Edge | 1990
Neil Young & Crazy Horse | Ragged Glory | 1990
Judas Priest | Painkiller | 1990
Megadeth | Rust in Peace | 1990
Paul Simon | The Rhythm of the Saints | 1990
Cinderella | Heartbreak Station | 1990
Queen | Innuendo | 1991
Bob Dylan | The Bootleg Series Volumes 1-3 | 1991
Temple of the Dog | Temple of the Dog | 1991
Van Halen | For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge | 1991
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers | Into the Great Wide Open | 1991
Metallica | Metallica | 1991
John Mellencamp | Whenever We Wanted | 1991
Pearl Jam | Ten | 1991
Guns N' Roses | Use Your Illusion I | 1991
Guns N' Roses | Use Your Illusion II | 1991
Ozzy Osbourne | No More Tears | 1991
Nirvana | Nevermind | 1991
Red Hot Chili Peppers | Blood Sugar Sex Magik | 1991
Rush | Roll the Bones | 1991
Soundgarden | Badmotorfinger | 1991
U2 | Achtung Baby | 1991
Pantera | Vulgar Display of Power | 1992
Kiss | Revenge | 1992
The Black Crowes | The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion | 1992
Los Lobos | Kiko | 1992
Black Sabbath | Dehumanizer | 1992
Kyuss | Blues for the Red Sun | 1992
Lindsey Buckingham | Out of the Cradle | 1992
Eric Clapton | Unplugged | 1992
Peter Gabriel | Us | 1992
Roger Waters | Amused to Death | 1992
Alice in Chains | Dirt | 1992
Stone Temple Pilots | Core | 1992
Tom Waits | Bone Machine | 1992
Neil Young | Harvest Moon | 1992
R.E.M. | Automatic for the People | 1992
Keith Richards | Main Offender | 1992
Masters of Reality | Sunrise on the Sufferbus | 1993
Mick Jagger | Wandering Spirit | 1993
Sting | Ten Summoners Tales | 1993
Robert Plant | Fate of Nations | 1993
The Smashing Pumpkins | Siamese Dream | 1993
Nirvana | In Utero | 1993
Pearl Jam | Vs. | 1993
Rush | Counterparts | 1993
Motörhead | Bastards | 1993
Mötley Crüe | Mötley Crüe | 1994
Pink Floyd | The Division Bell | 1994
Elvis Costello | Brutal Youth | 1994
Johnny Cash | American Recordings | 1994
Pretenders | Last of the Independents | 1994
John Mellencamp | Dance Naked | 1994
Stone Temple Pilots | Purple | 1994
The Rolling Stones | Voodoo Lounge | 1994
Alice Cooper | The Last Temptation | 1994
Neil Young and Crazy Horse | Sleeps with Angels | 1994
R.E.M. | Monster | 1994
Soundgarden | Superunkwown | 1994
The Melvins | Houdini | 1994
Jimmy Page and Robert Plant | No Quarter | 1994
The Black Crowes | Amorica | 1994
Tom Petty | Wildflowers | 1994
Pearl Jam | Vitalogy | 1994
Nirvana | Unplugged in New York | 1994
The Beatles | Live at the BBC | 1994
Motörhead | Sacrifice | 1994
David Bowie | Outside | 1995
Oasis | (What's the Story) Morning Glory? | 1995
Bruce Springsteen | The Ghost of Tom Joad | 1995
Eric Clapton | Crossroads 2: Live in the '70s | 1996
Metallica | Load | 1996
Rush | Test for Echo | 1996
Sammy Hagar | Marching to Mars | 1997
Foo Fighters | The Colour and the Shape | 1997
Paul McCartney | Flaming Pie | 1997
Bruce Dickinson | Accident of Birth | 1997
Fleetwood Mac | The Dance | 1997
Bob Dylan | Time Out of Mind | 1997
Led Zeppelin | BBC Sessions | 1997
The Beach Boys | The Pet Sounds Sessions | 1997
Jimmy Page and Robert Plant | Walking Into Clarksdale | 1998
The Jimi Hendrix Experience | BBC Sessions | 1998
Bob Dylan | The Bootleg Series Vol. 4 - Live 1966: The "Royal Albert Hall" Concert | 1998
Metallica | Garage Inc. | 1998
Bruce Springsteen | Tracks | 1998
Tom Waits | Mule Variations | 1998
Red Hot Chili Peppers | Californication | 1999
Def Leppard | Euphoria | 1999
Paul McCartney | Run Devil Run | 1999

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Pierre » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:37 pm

bootsy wrote:What makes this site different from Complex. I didn't see any reviews on that site which was one of your(Henrik) criteria for why you wouldn't add some of the Complex lists I and others suggested. I don't think this is any different than Complex so why add this if you aren't going to add the Complex lists. So sick of the double standard. Just because this is a list with rock albums doesn't make it more worthy. I don't feel this should added unless you are going to add lists from Complex as well. This was your explanation for not including 'EOY 2014 Complex's 50 Best Albums of 2014' viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2408

Henrik wrote:The stricter rules are necessary for eoy lists, as there would be hundreds of lists without them, and the main sources would drown among all lists. Even when using these rules, there are over 100 albums lists. I know it doesn't make perfect sense to include some Complex lists and some not, but this is the best solution I have come up with.

The reviews criterion is perhaps most important for songs lists, as there are a lot of entertainment/music news sites that lists the top songs of the year. Those lists are basically the bestselling singles.


Buried this (sorry bootsy!) but valid point is valid, even if it's told with the diplomatic skills of a chainsaw. If it's valid.

Besides, now that I've written them down, I have to say that I don't like those lists.

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Henrik » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:54 pm

bootsy wrote:What makes this site different from Complex. I didn't see any reviews on that site which was one of your(Henrik) criteria for why you wouldn't add some of the Complex lists I and others suggested. I don't think this is any different than Complex so why add this if you aren't going to add the Complex lists. So sick of the double standard. Just because this is a list with rock albums doesn't make it more worthy. I don't feel this should added unless you are going to add lists from Complex as well. This was your explanation for not including 'EOY 2014 Complex's 50 Best Albums of 2014' viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2408

Henrik wrote:The stricter rules are necessary for eoy lists, as there would be hundreds of lists without them, and the main sources would drown among all lists. Even when using these rules, there are over 100 albums lists. I know it doesn't make perfect sense to include some Complex lists and some not, but this is the best solution I have come up with.

The reviews criterion is perhaps most important for songs lists, as there are a lot of entertainment/music news sites that lists the top songs of the year. Those lists are basically the bestselling singles.

Yes, I consider Ultimate Classic Rock similar to Complex, so I won't add EOY lists from this site either (as they don't write album reviews). I do however add other kind of lists from both sites. I already have included decade lists from Complex, and both sites already have best-of-artist lists on AM.

I use the EOY criteria for the end of 2000s decade lists as well (these Complex are on the critics' lists page, but should be removed). I decided to use the stricter criteria, since there were so many lists coming out at the same time, and I don't want AM's lists to be too much stuck with the opinion that was around that time. However, Complex presented their "Complex decade" (2002-2012) lists soon thereafter, and I included them so this isn't much of an issue anyway.
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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby bootsy » Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:54 pm

Pierre wrote:
bootsy wrote:What makes this site different from Complex. I didn't see any reviews on that site which was one of your(Henrik) criteria for why you wouldn't add some of the Complex lists I and others suggested. I don't think this is any different than Complex so why add this if you aren't going to add the Complex lists. So sick of the double standard. Just because this is a list with rock albums doesn't make it more worthy. I don't feel this should added unless you are going to add lists from Complex as well. This was your explanation for not including 'EOY 2014 Complex's 50 Best Albums of 2014' viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2408

Henrik wrote:The stricter rules are necessary for eoy lists, as there would be hundreds of lists without them, and the main sources would drown among all lists. Even when using these rules, there are over 100 albums lists. I know it doesn't make perfect sense to include some Complex lists and some not, but this is the best solution I have come up with.

The reviews criterion is perhaps most important for songs lists, as there are a lot of entertainment/music news sites that lists the top songs of the year. Those lists are basically the bestselling singles.


Buried this (sorry bootsy!) but valid point is valid, even if it's told with the diplomatic skills of a chainsaw. If it's valid.

Besides, now that I've written them down, I have to say that I don't like those lists.

No problem Pierre. Thanks

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby bootsy » Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:59 pm

Henrik wrote:
bootsy wrote:What makes this site different from Complex. I didn't see any reviews on that site which was one of your(Henrik) criteria for why you wouldn't add some of the Complex lists I and others suggested. I don't think this is any different than Complex so why add this if you aren't going to add the Complex lists. So sick of the double standard. Just because this is a list with rock albums doesn't make it more worthy. I don't feel this should added unless you are going to add lists from Complex as well. This was your explanation for not including 'EOY 2014 Complex's 50 Best Albums of 2014' viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2408

Henrik wrote:The stricter rules are necessary for eoy lists, as there would be hundreds of lists without them, and the main sources would drown among all lists. Even when using these rules, there are over 100 albums lists. I know it doesn't make perfect sense to include some Complex lists and some not, but this is the best solution I have come up with.

The reviews criterion is perhaps most important for songs lists, as there are a lot of entertainment/music news sites that lists the top songs of the year. Those lists are basically the bestselling singles.

Yes, I consider Ultimate Classic Rock similar to Complex, so I won't add EOY lists from this site either (as they don't write album reviews). I do however add other kind of lists from both sites. I already have included decade lists from Complex, and both sites already have best-of-artist lists on AM.

I use the EOY criteria for the end of 2000s decade lists as well (these Complex are on the critics' lists page, but should be removed). I decided to use the stricter criteria, since there were so many lists coming out at the same time, and I don't want AM's lists to be too much stuck with the opinion that was around that time. However, Complex presented their "Complex decade" (2002-2012) lists soon thereafter, and I included them so this isn't much of an issue anyway.

Well I guess I don't really get this. Whether it's an EOY list or decade list, if you are going to include Complex for certain criteria and this site for certain criteria why not just go all the way one way or the other. It doesn't make much sense to me to include these lists because it is not EOY. I just don't understand how you include some Complex lists but not others if they don't write reviews because it is EOY vs. decade. So confusing.

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Henrik » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:34 pm

That's because the number of EOY lists exploded about five years ago. It became too much work for Harold and everyone who helped me with EOY spreadsheets. It also felt necessary because the main publications got buried in the mass. Complex is perhaps the biggest publication that is not included, but they don't write reviews so how much critics are they?

On the other hand, should I use decade lists from sources that don't review albums? Yes, I think they add value to AM. It is still recommendations from people who work with music.
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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby lagire » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:24 am

Henrik wrote:On the other hand, should I use decade lists from sources that don't review albums? Yes, I think they add value to AM. It is still recommendations from people who work with music.


So, why this shouldn't be included on AM?
http://www.complex.com/music/2011/12/th ... the-2000s/

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Henrik » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:57 am

You got me confused there for a while. I thought maybe they did three decade lists within three years' time. But...

"This feature was originally published on December 2, 2009"

So this is the list that I removed because I use the EOY criteria for EOD lists that came out in the end of 2009 or beginning of 2010.
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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Henrik » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:39 am

Thousand thanks Pierre!
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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby StevieFan13 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:08 pm

Have these already been added to the spreadsheets? I'm guessing yes, but I just want to be sure.
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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby Pierre » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:46 am

StevieFan13 wrote:Have these already been added to the spreadsheets? I'm guessing yes, but I just want to be sure.


Yup. 60s and 70s are mentioned in the list of lists Henrik added himself in the Help Wanted! thread, while the 80s and 90s are in the other spreadsheet I talked to you about.

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Re: Ultimate classic rock decade lists

Postby StevieFan13 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:47 am

Pierre wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:Have these already been added to the spreadsheets? I'm guessing yes, but I just want to be sure.


Yup. 60s and 70s are mentioned in the list of lists Henrik added himself in the Help Wanted! thread, while the 80s and 90s are in the other spreadsheet I talked to you about.

Gotcha. One less group to worry about. The individual year lists, I'm still working on. (The real slog at this point are the Radio X lists, which involve adding a lot of more recent albums).
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