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Postby Henrik » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:21 pm

I've had a conversation with a RYM friend about Latin music lists. We have discussed the Rockenlasamericas list, which she thinks should be eligible, and she also recommends a few new lists. These lists (1-5 below) all look eligible to me. Blanco and others, it would be great to hear what you say about these lists.


This is what she wrote to me:


Hola

I don't know where you get that Rock en las Americas lists are based on other lists, are made by their own criteria as it's on the site. If you want to check you can send them an email.

Some lists I don't see in your section:

1. 50 Grandiosas Canciones Colombianas (Rolling Stone Colombia)
http://rollingstone.com.co/50_canciones_colombianas_intro.html

2. 35 discos imprescindibles del rock venezolano, de acuerdo a selección publicada por revista Ladosis, número 19 (noviembre - diciembre 2011).
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/orlblues/35_discos_imprescindibles_del_rock_venezolano__revista_ladosis_/

3. Los 25 mejores discos colombianos de los últimos 25 años según la revista Semana (2007)
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/JICAMARCA/los_25_mejores_discos_colombianos_de_los_ultimos_25_anos_segun_la_revista_semana__2007_/

4. EL ROCK CUBANO Y SUS AUTORES DESDE 1959
http://www.indyrock.es/cuba.htm

5. Book: 100 Discos Esencial del Rock Mexicano (chronological order)

1. Los Locos del ritmo - Rock! Orfeon 1960
2. Kaleidoscope-Kaleidoscope Orfeon 1968
3. El tarro de mostaza-El tarro de mostaza Capitol 1968
4. La revolución de Emiliano Zapata-La revolución de Emiliano Zapata Polydor 1971
5. Bandido - Bandido Philips/Universal 1973
6. Náhuatl - Náhuatl , Cisne/rAFF 1973
7. Three souls in my mind - Adicto al rock & roll Cisne/raff 1973
8. Dug Dug´s - El loco RCA Victor 1975
9. Nuevo México - Hecho en casa Orféon 1975
10. Chac Mool - Nadie en especial Polygram 1980
11. Decibel - El poeta del ruido Orfeon 1980
12. Botellita de Jerez - Botellita de Jerez , Polygram 1984
13. Iconoclasta - Reminisencias Discos Rosenbach 1984
14. Silueta Pálida - Silueta Pálida Discos A.E.I. 1984
15. Size - El diablo en el cuerpo Independiente 1984
16. Casino Shangai - Film, Comrock 1985
17. Varios Artistas - Comrock Éxitos , 1985
18. Luzbel - Metal caido del cielo, Comrock 1985
19. Rodrigo Gonzalez - Hurbanistorias, Pentagrama, 1986
20. Atoxxxico - Punks de mierda, PPR Records, 1987
21. Jorge Reyes - Comala, Producciones exilio, 1987
22. Cecilia Toussaint - Arpia, Pentagrama,1987
23. Tex Tex - Un toque mágico, Discos gas, 1988
24. Massacre 68 - No estamos conformes, Independiente 1989
25. El Personal - No me hallo, Caracol,1989
26. Secta Suicida Siglo 20-Secta Suicidda Siglo 20 , independiente,1989
27. Caifanes - Volumen II, Ariola, 1990
28. Flor de metal - Ciudad Azul, Discos pueblo 1990
29. Real de Catorce - Mis amigos muertos, Discos pueblo, 1990
30. Maldita Vecindad y los hijos del Quinto Patio - El Circo, Ariola. 1991
31. Caifanes - El Silencio, BMG, 1992
32. El Haragán y Compañía - Valedores Juveniles, Denver, 1992
33. Maná - ¿Dónde jugarán los niños? , Warner, 1992
34. Arturo Meza - A la siniestra del padre, Gente de México, 1992
35. Tijuana No, No!, Culebra 1992
36. Transmetal, Burial at sea, Grincore, 1992
37. 37. Jaime Lopez / Jose Manuel Aguilera, Odio Fonky, Lejos del Paraiso, 1993
38. 38. Artefakto - Des-construcción, Opción Sónica, 1993
39. 39. La Castañeda - Servicios Generales II, Culebra, 1993
40. 40. Fobia - Leche, Ariola, 1993
41. 41.-Lira´n roll - María, Denver, 1993
42. 42. Cafe Tacvba - Re , Warner, 1994
43. 43.-Guillotina - Guillotina , Warner, 1994
44. 44.- Santa Sabina - Simbolos, Ariola, 1994
45. 45. Sergio Arau - Mi frida sufrida, Sony, 1994
46. 46. 34-D - 34-D, Toaj, 1996
47. 47. La Barranca - El fuego de la noche, Opcion Sónica, 1996
48. 48. Control Machete - Mucho Barato, Manicomio, 1996
49. 49. Garrobos - Garrobos, Denver, 1996
50. 50.- Humus - Malleus Crease, Smogless Records, 1996
51. 51. Nine Rain - Nine Rain, Opcion Sónica, 1996
52. 52.- The sweet leaf - take a hit, independiente, 1996
53. 53.-Consumatum Est - Nadie habla perfecto, Intolerancia, 1997
54. 54. Hocico-Odio bajo el alma, Opción Sónica, 1997
55. 55.- Julieta Venegas -Aquí, BMG, 1997
56. 56.- Molotov - ¿Dónde jugarán las niñas? Surco, 1997
57. 57.-Nona Delichas - Nona Delichas, Nimboestatic, 1997
58. 58. Los Esquizitos - Los Esquizitos. Opción Sónica, 1998
59. 59.- La Lupita-Caramelo Macizo, RCA, 1998
60. 60.- Plastilina Mosh - Aquamosh, EMI Happy Fi Tombola, 1998
61. 61.-Sonios - 200 Fonios, Nimboestatic, 1998
62. 62. Cafe Tacvba - Revés/yo soy Warner, 1999
63. 63.-El Sr Gonzalez y los cuates de la chamba-El Sr Gonzalez y los cuates de la chamba, Mulata Records, 1999
64. 64. Jumbo-Restaurant, BMG, 1999
65. 65.- Panteón Rococó - A la izquierda de la tierra , Real Independencia, 1999
66. 66.-Sociedad Café - Sociedad Café, Rap mex, 1999
67. 67. Titan - Elevator, EMI, 1999
68. 68.- Intestino Grueso - A que juventud tan cotorrona, CR 2000
69. 69. Jose Luis Fernández ledezma y Margarita Botello - Sol central, Luna Negra, 2000
70. 70.- Utrasónicas - Yo fui un adolescente terrosatánica, Munster, 2000
71. 71.-V.A.- Nortec Collective, The tijuana sessions Vol 1, Palm Pictures, 2001
72. 72. La Perra - Fricción Visual, Opción Sónica 2001
73. 73. Zurdok - Maquillaje, Universal, 2001
74. 74.- La live band - la live band, Happy Fi, 2002
75. 75.- Los de Abajo - Latin Ska Force, PPLobo Rec, 2002
76. 76.-Charly Montana - Hotel Barcelona, Denver, 2002
77. 77.- Murcof - Martes, Static. 2002
78. 78. V.A.- Emergente, Suave Records, 2002
79. 79. Volován - Volován, Suave, 2002
80. 80.- Banda Elástica-Ai te encargo, Luna Negra, 2002
81. 81. San Pascualito Rey - Sufro sufro sufro, Intolerancia, 2003
82. 82. Zoe - Rocanlover, Sony, 2003
83. 83.- Cabezas de Cera - Metalmusica , Angelito Editor, 2004
84. 84. Lost Acapulco - Acapulco Golden, Mostrissimo, 2004
85. 85. Varios A. Back up expediente tecno pop, 1980-89, AT-AT Records, 2005
86. 86. La Barranca - El Fluir, Fonarte, 2005
87. 87. Los Nena - Volumen II, Discos Nena, 2005
88. 88. Descartes a Kant - Paper Dolls, Intolerancia, 2006
89. 89. Jaime Lopez y su hotel Garage - Grande sexi tos, Inventario, 2006
90. 90. Alonso Arreola - La Ba, Intolerancia, 2007
91. 91. Alex Otaola - Fractales, Intolerancia, 2007
92. 92. Joe Volume & los Vincent Black Shadows - i (heart) broken (heart)´s . Independiente, 2007
93. 93. Los explosivos - los explosivos, Grabaxiones Alicia, 2008
94. 94. Los Fancy Free - Never greens Vol 1 y 2, Independiente, 2008
95. 95. Los llamarada - Take the sky, SSS Records, 2008
96. 96. Nos llamamos - Nos llamamos, Intolerancia, 2008
97. 97. Furland - Historia de la luz, Terrícolas Imbéciles , 2009
98. 98. Robota - Robota, Happy Garlic, 2009
99. 99. Juan Cirerol - Ofrenda al Mictlán, Vale Vergas, 2010
100. 100. Hello Seahorse - Lejos, no tan lejos, MUN, 2010
101. 101. Varios - Brutales Matanzas, Cintas Pepe, 2010

And all Rock en las Américas Lists
Las 120 mejores canciones del rock hispanoamericano (+ extra)
1. Los Fabulosos Cadillacs - Matador
2. Soda Stereo - De Música Ligera
3. Manu Chao - Clandestino
4. Héroes del Silencio - Entre dos tierras
5. Molotov - Gimme tha power
6. Soda Stereo - Persiana americana
7. Aterciopelados - Bolero falaz
8. Santana - Oye como va
9. Los Tres - Déjate caer
10. Caifanes - Afuera
11. Los Rodriguez - Sin documentos
12. Bersuit Vergarabat - Sr. Cobranza
13. Soda Stereo - Cuando pase el temblor
14. Café Tacuba - Las flores
15. Mano Negra - Señor Matanza
16. Mano Negra - Mala vida
17. Los Prisioneros - We are south american rockers
18. Aterciopelados - Florecita rockera
19. El Tri - Triste canción de amor
20. Café Tacuba - La ingrata
21. La Ley - El duelo
22. Soda Stereo - En la ciudad de la furia
23. Los Prisioneros - El baile de los que sobran
24. Héroes del Silencio - La chispa adecuada
25. Los Fabulosos Cadillacs feat. Celia Cruz - Vasos vacíos
26. Caifanes - La celula que explota
27. Rata Blanca - La leyenda del hada y el mago
28. Almendra - Muchacha ojos de papel
29. Charly García - Nos siguen pegando abajo
30. Los Gatos - La balsa
31. Molotov - Frijolero
32. Nacha Pop - Lucha de gigantes
33. Molotov - Puto
34. Los Lobos - La bamba
35. Maldita Vecindad y los Hijos del Quinto Patio - Pachuco
36. La Unión - Lobo hombre en París
37. Los Abuelos de la Nada - Mil horas
38. Fito Páez - Mariposa technicolor
39. Héroes del Silencio - Maldito duende
40. Alaska y Dinarama - Ni tú ni nadie
41. Patricio Rey y sus Redonditos de Ricota - Ji ji ji
42. Soda Stereo - Primavera 0
43. Enanitos Verdes - Lamento boliviano
44. Los Bravos - Black is black
45. Café Tacuba - La locomotora
46. Miguel Mateos - Cuando seas grande
47. Ritchie Valens - La bamba
48. Gustavo Cerati - Puente
49. Robi Draco Rosa - Vagabundo
50. Babasónicos - El loco
51. Fito Páez - El amor después del amor
52. Charly García - Los dinosaurios
53. Sui Generis - Rasguña las piedras
54. Caifanes - No dejes que..
55. Andrés Calamaro - Flaca
56. Charly García - Demoliendo hoteles
57. Caifanes - Nubes
58. Divididos - ¿Qué ves?
59. Miguel Ríos - Bienvenidos
60. Manu Chao - Desaparecido
61. Duncan Dhu - En algun lugar
62. Angeles del Infierno - Maldito sea tu nombre
63. Porter - Espiral
64. Triana - Abre la puerta
65. Los Rodriguez - Para no olvidar
66. Café Tacuba - El baile y el salón
67. La Polla Records - Salve
68. Rockdrigo Gonzáles - El metro Balderas
69. Sumo - Mejor no hablar de ciertas cosas
70. Jarabe de Palo - La flaca
71. Los Prisioneros - Tren al sur
72. Julieta Venegas - De mis pasos
73. Hombres G - Devuéveme a mi chica
74. Barón Rojo - Resistiré
75. Caifanes - Viento
76. Molotov - Voto latino
77. Catupecu Machu - Y lo que quiero es que pises sin el suelo
78. Jaguares - Detrás de los cerros
79. Los Teen Tops - La plaga
80. Alaska y Dinarama - A quien le importa
81. Plastilina Mosh - Mr. P Mosh
82. Enrique Bunbury - Lady blue
83. Héroes del Silencio - Avalancha
84. Control Machete - Comprendes Mendez
85. Los Jaivas - Todos juntos
86. Radio Futura - Veneno en la piel
87. El Último de la Fila - Insurrección
88. Babasónicos - Irresponsables
89. Los Locos del Ritmo - Yo no soy un rebelde
90. Los Fabulosos Cadillacs - Mal bicho
91. La Ley - Día cero
92. Charly García - No voy en tren
93. Soda Stereo - Ella usó mi cabeza como un révolver
94. Puya - Oasis
95. Enanitos Verdes - La muralla verde
96. Barón Rojo - Los rockeros van al infierno
97. Kinky - Soun da mi primer amor
98. Los Auntenticos Decadentes - Me vuelve loco (tu forma de ser)
99. La Ley - Mentira
100. La Cuca - El son del dolor
101. Nacha Pop - Chica de ayer
102. Mecano - Cruz de navajas
103. Botellita de Jerez - Alármala de tos
104. Los Fabulosos Cadillacs - El genio del dub
105. Bohemia Suburbana - Peces e iguanas
106. Babasónicos - Viva Satana
107. Café Tacuba - Eres
108. Santa Sabina - Azul casi morado
109. El Otro Yo - No me importa morir
110. Virus - Luna de miel en la mano
111. Virus - Imágenes paganas
112. Jarabe de Palo - El lado oscuro
113. Héroes del Silencio - Héroe de leyenda
114. Mago de Oz - Molinos de viento
115. Los Auntenticos Decadentes feat. Todos Tus Muertos - Gente que no
116. Zoé - Love
117. Los Saicos - Demolición
118. Aterciopelados - Baracunatana
119. Babasónicos - Putita
120. La Revolución de Emiliano Zapata - Nasty Sex
121. Pescado Rabioso - Todas las hojas son del viento
122. El Tri - Las piedras rodantes
123. Illya Kuryaki & The Valderramas - Abarajame
124. El Cuarteto de Nos - Ya no sé que hacer conmigo
125. Pescado Rabioso - Bajan
126. Sui Generis - Canción para mi muerte
127. Jumbo - Fotografía
128. Café Tacuba - María
129. Soda Stereo - Zoom
130. Los Violadores - Uno..dos.. ultraviolento
131. Gustavo Cerati - Crimen
132. Siniestro Total - Bailaré sobre tu tumba
133. Héroes del Silencio - Iberia sumergida
134. Fobia - Veneno vil
135. Serú Girán - Seminare
136. Enrique Bunbury - Infinito
137. Invisible - El anillo del capitán Beto
138. Luis Alberto Spinetta - Barro tal vez
139. Three Souls in My Mind - Oye cantinero
140. Alaska y los Pegamoides - Bailando
141. Hello Seahorse! - Bestia
142. Maldita Vecindad y los Hijos del Quinto Patio - Kumbala
143. Tequila - Dime que me quieres
144. Charly García - Yo no quiero volverme tan loco
145. Charly García - Rezo por vos
146. Los Brincos - Flamenco
147. Zoé - No me destruyas
148. Los Bunkers - Llueve sobre la ciudad
149. El Gran Silencio - Dormir soñando
150. Radio Futura - Escuela de calor
151. Tijuana No! - Pobre de ti
152. Manal - Jugo de tomate
153. Los Jaivas - Sube a nacer conmigo hermano
154. Soda Stereo - Signos
155. Rata Blanca - Mujer amante
156. Los Amigos Invisibles - Playa azul
157. Los Planetas - La playa
158. Loquillo y Trogloditas - La mataré
159. Moris - El oso
160. Sentimiento Muerto - Cabeza
161. Fania All Stars - El ratón
162. Los Amantes de Lola - Beber de tu sangre
163. Attaque 77 - Hácelo por mi
164. Los Amigos Invisibles - Ponerte en cuatro
165. Los Auténticos Decadentes - La guitarra
166. Frágil - Avenida Larco
167. Orishas - A lo cubano
168. Burning - ¿Qué hace una chica como tú en un sitio como este?
169. Enanitos Verdes - Guitarras blancas
170. Panteón Rococó - La carencia
171. Los Blops - Los momentos
172. La Máquina de Hacer Pájaros - Como mata el viento norte
173. Soda Stereo - Juegos de seducción
174. Calle 13 feat. Totó La Momposina, María Rita & Susana Baca - Latinoamérica
175. Los Tres - Un amor violento
176. Soda Stereo - Té para tres
177. Ozomatli - Cumbia de los muertos
178. Natalia Lafourcade - Azul
179. Luis Alberto Spinetta - Seguir viviendo sin tu amor
180. Los Prisioneros - Estrechez del corazón
181. Los Pericos - Pupilas lejanas
182. Charly García - Yendo de la cama al living
183. Extremoduro - So payaso
184. Traffic Sound - Meshkalina
185. Los Fabulosos Cadillacs - Manuel Santillán, El León
186. Café Tacuba - El aparato
187. La Renga - El revelde
188. Sumo - La rubia tarada
189. El Guincho - Bombay
190. Hora Local - Londres
191. La Barranca - Día negro
192. Los Shakers - Rompan todo (Break it all)
193. Dermis Tatú - Corazón gris
194. Desorden Público - Allá cayó
195. Gustavo Cerati feat. Daniel Melero - Vuelta por el universo
196. Pappo's Blues - El tren de las 16
197. Los Prisioneros - Sexo
198. Ska-P - El vals del obrero
199. Ely Guerra - Peligro
200. Jaime López - A la orilla de la carretera
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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Pierre » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:05 pm

After a quick look: nice to see more lists to boost Latino music (well, rock, but that's still a beginning). I guess Blanco will be grateful for Café Tacvba, Caifanes and Rockdrigo Gonzáles! Also, great to see lists for Colombia, Venezuela and Cuba, there are not much lists from these countries yet. Once more, AM.net is doing a great job at expanding our musical horizons!

For my part, I hope the Rock en las Americas list is eligible. Seeing more Soda Stereo, Los Prisioneros or Charly García would make me happy, they are still some of my favourite artists. Just a little regret that the combined entries of Andrés Calamaro and his bands don't amount to much, it looks like he is underrated. If it was eligible, would it be included in this year's update?

Thanks Henrik for your dedication!

Edit: Henrik, after a closer look, I'm not sure I understand completely how the fourth list (EL ROCK CUBANO Y SUS AUTORES DESDE 1959) was conceived. Maybe Blanco should double-check its eligibility?

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Blanco » Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:24 am

Henrik wrote:I've had a conversation with a RYM friend about Latin music lists. We have discussed the Rockenlasamericas list, which she thinks should be eligible, and she also recommends a few new lists. These lists (1-5 below) all look eligible to me. Blanco and others, it would be great to hear what you say about these lists.


It is always good to hear from people like your friend. Maybe you can tell her to join the forum? It would be great!

Henrik wrote:This is what she wrote to me:


Hola

I don't know where you get that Rock en las Americas lists are based on other lists, are made by their own criteria as it's on the site. If you want to check you can send them an email.


I think every Rockenlasamericas's lists had a different process. I had mentioned something here. And I quote:
Blanco wrote:the lists from Rock en las Americas are very good lists, but I think they are not eligible because they are created on a blog, not a professional broadcast media. If you are still interested in this lists, It seems that although the blog is run by a single person, to create the lists he asks for suggestions to visitors of the blog, and asks their own lists to other bloggers from other countries in Latin America (more or less about 5 people). Based on these data, between the blog owner and those 5 friends, they agree to create a single list, and they create the result together.

I must say though their lists are great, and although they have a critical selection, they are not professional critics. (Although who is a professional critic?)


I must say that in my personal Latin music project, I actually use some RockEnLasAméricas's lists as a reference, and I would be happy if they were included here too. Actually, over time I have found that Rockenlasamericas have many other lists, so I will investigate the process in which each was developed, but meanwhile I will tell you my opinion of the other ones:


Henrik wrote:Some lists I don't see in your section:

1. 50 Grandiosas Canciones Colombianas (Rolling Stone Colombia)
http://rollingstone.com.co/50_canciones_colombianas_intro.html

I have not updated the Latin music thread, but this list has already been uploaded here:
viewtopic.php?p=19722



Henrik wrote:2. 35 discos imprescindibles del rock venezolano, de acuerdo a selección publicada por revista Ladosis, número 19 (noviembre - diciembre 2011).
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/orlblues/35_discos_imprescindibles_del_rock_venezolano__revista_ladosis_/

This looks great! I had not heard of it before. Great Find!

Henrik wrote:3. Los 25 mejores discos colombianos de los últimos 25 años según la revista Semana (2007)
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/JICAMARCA/los_25_mejores_discos_colombianos_de_los_ultimos_25_anos_segun_la_revista_semana__2007_/

This one it's a great find too. It does not say how the list was made, but it seems eligible.

Henrik wrote:4. EL ROCK CUBANO Y SUS AUTORES DESDE 1959
http://www.indyrock.es/cuba.htm

I'm afraid this one is not eligible. It even has some embarrassing misspellings. The top of the page looks somewhat choppy, so if you want to see the list, you can found it in the middle of the page, or here: http://www.indyrock.es/cuba.htm#lista.
It also says the following:
"se han concebido a partir de su representación histórica dentro de la vida cotidiana profundizando en las opiniones de las huestes amantes del genero y tomando en cuenta sin desdeñar las opiniones del publico en general."
Which means:
"They have been conceived based from its historical representation (?) in everyday life delving into the opinions of the followers of the genre and taking into account without disdaining the opinions of the general public."
I think that means that it was based on an audience poll.

Henrik wrote:5. Book: 100 Discos Esenciales del Rock Mexicano

Yup! I have this book. It is eligible, yes.

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Blanco » Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:56 am

Pierre wrote:After a quick look: nice to see more lists to boost Latino music (well, rock, but that's still a beginning). I guess Blanco will be grateful for Café Tacvba, Caifanes and Rockdrigo Gonzáles! Also, great to see lists for Colombia, Venezuela and Cuba, there are not much lists from these countries yet.

Yeah, you're right! I'm specially happy for Rockdrigo González; and from the other countries, too.

Pierre wrote:For my part, I hope the Rock en las Americas list is eligible. Seeing more Soda Stereo, Los Prisioneros or Charly García would make me happy, they are still some of my favourite artists. Just a little regret that the combined entries of Andrés Calamaro and his bands don't amount to much, it looks like he is underrated. If it was eligible, would it be included in this year's update?

I have the same doubt as you. And yes, I also think we need more Calamaro. I would not say it's underrated, although it seems that with this list. It is very strange that he does not appear more often. Maybe we can fix that finding more lists.

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Pierre » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:02 pm

Blanco wrote:I have the same doubt as you. And yes, I also think we need more Calamaro. I would not say it's underrated, although it seems that with this list. It is very strange that he does not appear more often. Maybe we can fix that finding more lists.


Ah ah, yeah of course, but I guess that just typing "mejores canciones argentinas" in Google won't be enough at this point :D Who knows, if I feel like it maybe I'll just try some research one of these days!

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby panam » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:08 pm

Pierre wrote:
For my part, I hope the Rock en las Americas list is eligible. Seeing more Soda Stereo, Los Prisioneros or Charly García would make me happy, they are still some of my favourite artists. Just a little regret that the combined entries of Andrés Calamaro and his bands don't amount to much, it looks like he is underrated. If it was eligible, would it be included in this year's update?



According to that link, it was made by votation. I don't know if is eligible or not
http://rockenlasamericas.blogspot.pe/20 ... es_25.html

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Pierre » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:59 am

panam wrote:
Pierre wrote:
For my part, I hope the Rock en las Americas list is eligible. Seeing more Soda Stereo, Los Prisioneros or Charly García would make me happy, they are still some of my favourite artists. Just a little regret that the combined entries of Andrés Calamaro and his bands don't amount to much, it looks like he is underrated. If it was eligible, would it be included in this year's update?



According to that link, it was made by votation. I don't know if is eligible or not
http://rockenlasamericas.blogspot.pe/20 ... es_25.html


It looks like it was public vote, and therefore it's ineligible :?

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Henrik » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:56 pm

Pierre wrote:
panam wrote:According to that link, it was made by votation. I don't know if is eligible or not
http://rockenlasamericas.blogspot.pe/20 ... es_25.html


It looks like it was public vote, and therefore it's ineligible :?

My browser blocks this link!

Here's what they say about the 2010-2014 lists (Google translate):
http://rockenlasamericas.blogspot.se/2014/12/encuesta-especializada-2010-2014-mas.html
We call people we respect and consider musical friends. The vast majority work in the media, and among them are from respectable radio programs in their countries to blogs.

I think the lists could be eligible because of the bolded sentence. Is the 2009 list a pure readers' poll?
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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby panam » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:08 pm

Henrik wrote:
Pierre wrote:
panam wrote:According to that link, it was made by votation. I don't know if is eligible or not
http://rockenlasamericas.blogspot.pe/20 ... es_25.html


It looks like it was public vote, and therefore it's ineligible :?

My browser blocks this link!

Here's what they say about the 2010-2014 lists (Google translate):
http://rockenlasamericas.blogspot.se/2014/12/encuesta-especializada-2010-2014-mas.html
We call people we respect and consider musical friends. The vast majority work in the media, and among them are from respectable radio programs in their countries to blogs.

I think the lists could be eligible because of the bolded sentence. Is the 2009 list a pure readers' poll?


It was voted by 5 digital music journalists (but songs were suggested by more than 300 people, according to the link)

José Luis Mercado
(Lima, Perú. Editor y creador de Rock en las Américas. Creador del programa Rock en las Américas en Radio Zona PUCP. Colaborador de medios escritos como Al Borde-Los Angeles, CA y para radio como Oxigeno-Washington DC)

David Delio
(Guatemala, Guatemala. Músico - Proyecto "Londonero". Creador del blog Rock n Roll Times)

Demon "El Amarillo" Balooni
(Barranquilla, Colombia. Creador del blog El Amarillo)

Pablo Vera
(Santa Fé, Argentina. Creador del extinto medio electrónico LaCalaca.com dedicado a la cobertura regional del rock latinoamericano y conductor de "Mañana Campestre" en FM 99.1 Cayasta, Santa Fe)

Santiago Estevarena
(Buenos Aires, Argentina. Creador del blog Imfreakalot)

http://rockenlasamericas.blogspot.pe/20 ... -rock.html

http://rockenlasamericas.blogspot.pe/20 ... -rock.html

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Pierre » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:45 am

For the 2009 list, I sort of understand it was popular vote, but it's not very very clear. I think it should stay ineligible until we know better.

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby panam » Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:18 pm

I think it's clear. So why they discuss the final decision of those 5 people at the end?

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Pierre » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:13 pm

panam wrote:I think it's clear. So why they discuss the final decision of those 5 people at the end?


Oh, yeah, you were talking about the 2009 list too? I didn't click the links you provided so I thought you were answering about the 2010-2014 lists. Now I did it and indeed it was done by music journalists. Sorry for the confusion, it's probably eligible then :angry-banghead:

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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Henrik » Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:16 pm

Pierre wrote:
panam wrote:I think it's clear. So why they discuss the final decision of those 5 people at the end?


Oh, yeah, you were talking about the 2009 list too? I didn't click the links you provided so I thought you were answering about the 2010-2014 lists. Now I did it and indeed it was done by music journalists. Sorry for the confusion, it's probably eligible then :angry-banghead:

So now you think the 2010-2014 list is ineligible? It wasn't anybody who could vote, but selected people, mostly working in media.
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Re: More lists of music in Spanish!

Postby Pierre » Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:28 pm

Henrik wrote:
Pierre wrote:
panam wrote:I think it's clear. So why they discuss the final decision of those 5 people at the end?


Oh, yeah, you were talking about the 2009 list too? I didn't click the links you provided so I thought you were answering about the 2010-2014 lists. Now I did it and indeed it was done by music journalists. Sorry for the confusion, it's probably eligible then :angry-banghead:

So now you think the 2010-2014 list is ineligible? It wasn't anybody who could vote, but selected people, mostly working in media.


No, no, forget everything I said! "Me estuve hecho un lio", as Spanish people say, because I got confused between both lists and I initially thought the 2009 one was ineligible while it was. Both lists seem eligible :text-imsorry:


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