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Postby RB » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:57 pm

Oh yes boyos, you thought last years 60 most important albums was all they'd do for another 10 years? Well no, oh no, they are in fact doing the dady of all lists in NEXT WEEKS issue.
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Postby JimmyJazz » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:59 pm

Awesome! I can't wait to see the results, particularly when compared to the American equivalent, Rolling Stone's Top 500.

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Postby JR » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:46 pm

Q magazine has never done a lengthy albums list, has it? It's had multiple 1,000 Songs lists, but never tackled a large albums list, I missed it.

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Postby o.m. » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:30 pm

Q MAGAZINE has done several best albums lists, the latest beingits "250 Best Album Of Q's Lifetime" published in February 2011 but voted by its readers, thus not included in AM.

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Postby JR » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:29 am

Yes, I think Q needs to do a lengthy (250-500 positions) critics' albums list.

In any event, this should be a decent feature.

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Postby peteevans » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:54 am

Oh dear, I shudder to think what the current NME will come up with ! It is staffed by kids who largely think popular music started with Oasis and Nirvana. A fair list should consist of albums voted for by a cross section of journalists, with the age, knowledge and experience to match.,e.g. Rolling Stone, All Music, Vilage Voice, Uncut and Mojo,etc. I can't see the NME meeting these requirements and can the same not be said for many of the lists that contribute to the ranking of artists in this site ?

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Postby Harold » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:00 pm

peteevans wrote:Oh dear, I shudder to think what the current NME will come up with ! It is staffed by kids who largely think popular music started with Oasis and Nirvana. A fair list should consist of albums voted for by a cross section of journalists, with the age, knowledge and experience to match.,e.g. Rolling Stone, All Music, Vilage Voice, Uncut and Mojo,etc. I can't see the NME meeting these requirements and can the same not be said for many of the lists that contribute to the ranking of artists in this site ?


Pete, will all be forgiven if the NME list contains three or four Steely Dan albums? :mrgreen:

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Postby JR » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:44 pm

The website has the cover image, but no content online (that I can see). It reads:

"The final, definitive, definitely last of its kind, never to be repeated, comprehensive and absolutely accurate word on the best records ever."

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Postby peteevans » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:11 pm

Harold wrote:
peteevans wrote:Oh dear, I shudder to think what the current NME will come up with ! It is staffed by kids who largely think popular music started with Oasis and Nirvana. A fair list should consist of albums voted for by a cross section of journalists, with the age, knowledge and experience to match.,e.g. Rolling Stone, All Music, Vilage Voice, Uncut and Mojo,etc. I can't see the NME meeting these requirements and can the same not be said for many of the lists that contribute to the ranking of artists in this site ?


Pete, will all be forgiven if the NME list contains three or four Steely Dan albums? :mrgreen:



Can't see it Harold. The NME has come a long way since the halcyon days of the seventies when the mighty Pretzel Logic was voted their album of the year ! But I might predict the likes of 'Nevermind', 'The Bends', 'The Queen Is Dead' and 'Definitely Maybe' in the top 20 ( shockers the lot of them ! ).

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Postby Merlo » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:02 pm

NME printed one of the first 100 Album lists ever, in 1974. It was very good on the whole. However, here's 10 albums from the 1974 list that I don't think will survive:
32. Gasoline Alley - Rod Stewart 

40. The Soft Machine - Soft Machine 

44. Music From A Dolls House - Family 

47. Strange Days - The Doors 

50. Stand Up - Jethro Tull 

60. Beck, Jeff, Group - Beck-Ola 

71. Winter, Johnny - Johnny Winter And 

75. Rundgren, Todd - A Wizard, A True Star 

81. Country Joe & The Fish - Electric Music For The Mind & Body 

98. Spirit - The 12 Dreams Of Dr Sardonicus 

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Postby Harold » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:15 pm

Merlo wrote:NME printed one of the first 100 Album lists ever, in 1974. It was very good on the whole. However, here's 10 albums from the 1974 list that I don't think will survive:
32. Gasoline Alley - Rod Stewart 

40. The Soft Machine - Soft Machine 

44. Music From A Dolls House - Family 

47. Strange Days - The Doors 

50. Stand Up - Jethro Tull 

60. Beck, Jeff, Group - Beck-Ola 

71. Winter, Johnny - Johnny Winter And 

75. Rundgren, Todd - A Wizard, A True Star 

81. Country Joe & The Fish - Electric Music For The Mind & Body 

98. Spirit - The 12 Dreams Of Dr Sardonicus 

:o


Oh, I don't know - I can see a few of the above possibly surviving into a current top 500. Specifically, numbers 32, 47, and 75. Maybe 81 and 98 as well. If Family is still as highly regarded in the UK as when they were popular, add #44.

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Postby JR » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:44 pm

You can see Nos. 376-500 online here (just click the arrow until you get to the last batch of 15 pages):

http://issuu.com/nmemagazine/docs/nme-2 ... 549#search

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Postby JimmyJazz » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:23 am

Artists with More Than 1 Album on the List (So Far):

Big Star: 2
Bjork: 2
David Bowie: 2
Jay-Z: 2
Kings of Leon: 2
The National: 2
Bruce Springsteen: 2
The Verve: 2
The White Stripes: 2
Wire: 2

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Postby JimmyJazz » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:28 am

Gotta say, quite a few of the albums so far are pretty significant and acclaimed albums that are ranked at a relatively low number. Specifically numbers 382, 384, 405, 408, 424, 437, 458, 462, 480, and 500 (didn't want to spoil it too much for those who haven't read the list yet.)

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Postby Chris K. » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:38 am

JimmyJazz wrote:Gotta say, quite a few of the albums so far are pretty significant and acclaimed albums that are ranked at a relatively low number. Specifically numbers 382, 384, 405, 408, 424, 437, 458, 462, 480, and 500 (didn't want to spoil it too much for those who haven't read the list yet.)


I thought the same thing, some of the albums in this region made their top 100 last time out.

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Postby Harold » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:42 am

JimmyJazz wrote:Gotta say, quite a few of the albums so far are pretty significant and acclaimed albums that are ranked at a relatively low number. Specifically numbers 382, 384, 405, 408, 424, 437, 458, 462, 480, and 500 (didn't want to spoil it too much for those who haven't read the list yet.)


Speaking only for myself, of course, but "spoilers" are more of a concern here with regard to our internal forum polls, not so much for new critics' lists - if someone could transcribe what's been made available from the list so far, that would be awesome. I will say I agree how surprising it is to see some of these albums so low - never expected to see #500 all the way down at #500.

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Postby Nick » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:02 am

Here's the first 50...

500. Stankonia- OutKast
499. Star- Belly
498. Berlin- Lou Reed
497. Random Access Memories- Daft Punk
496. Album- Girls
495. Hot Fuss- The Killers
494. The Head on the Door- The Cure
493. Blood- This Mortal Coil
492. Hidden- These New Puritans
491. Actually- Pet Shop Boys
490. Back in the USA- MC5
489. George Best- The Wedding Present
488. I'm Your Man- Leonard Cohen
487. Sound Affects- The Jam
486. Homogenic- Bjork
485. Good Kid, M.A.A.D City- Kendrick Lamar
484. The River- Bruce Springsteen
483. Blood and Chocolate- Elvis Costello & The Attractions
482. Lady in Satin- Billie Holiday
481. Smile- Brian Wilson
480. I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You- Aretha Franklin
479. The Real Ramona- Throwing Muses
478. Trouble Will Find Me- The National
477. Crystal Castles- Crystal Castles
476. Foo Fighters- Foo Fighters
475. Smoke Ring for My Halo- Kurt Vile
474. Tarot Sport- Fuck Buttons
473. A Storm in Heaven- The Verve
472. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness- Smashing Pumpkins
471. Oracular Spectacular- MGMT
470. Graduation- Kanye West
469. Holland- The Beach Boys
468. Chutes Too Narrow- The Shins
467. The Idiot- Iggy Pop
466. The W- Wu-Tang Clan
465. High Violet- The National
464. Because of the Times- Kings of Leon
463. Pod- The Breeders
462. Master of Puppets- Metallica
461. Generation Terrorists- Manic Street Preachers
460. Bleach- Nirvana
459. The Black Album- Jay-Z
458. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot- Wilco
457. Black Cherry- Goldfrapp
456. September of My Years- Frank Sinatra
455. Vampire Weekend- Vampire Weekend
454. The Writing on the Wall- Destiny's Child
453. The House of Love- The House of Love
452. The B-52's- The B-52's
451. Third/Sister Lovers- Big Star

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Postby JimmyJazz » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:00 am

Here's 450-401:

450. Rid of Me - PJ Harvey
449. AM - Arctic Monkeys
448. Sci-Fi Lullabies - Suede
447. Diamond Dogs - David Bowie
446. The Warning - Hot Chip
445. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac
444. Violator - Depeche Mode
443. Sometimes I Wish We Were an Eagle - Bill Callahan
442. Al Green is Love - Al Green
441. Arrival - ABBA
440. Life's a Riot with Spy vs. Spy - Billy Bragg
439. The Futureheads - The Futureheads
438. Aha Shake Heartbreak - Kings of Leon
437. Dear Science - TV on the Radio
436. Mirrored - Battles
435. Easter - Patti Smith
434. Steve McQueen - Prefab Sprout
433. 2001 - Dr. Dre
432. Tindersticks - Tindersticks
431. Badmotorfinger - Soundgarden
430. Scott 4 - Scott Walker
429. Bleed America - Jimmy Eat World
428. Born in the USA - Bruce Springsteen
427. Here Comes the Warm Jets - Brian Eno
426. Goo - Sonic Youth
425. Nancy and Lee - Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazelwood
424. The Joshua Tree - U2
423. Live at Leeds - The Who
422. Too-Rye-Ay - Dexys Midnight Runners
421. Radio City - Big Star
420. People's Instinctive Travels... - A Tribe Called Quest
419. Let It Come Down - Spiritualized
418. Electro-Shock Blues - Eels
417. 1977 - Ash
416. Merriweather Post Pavillion - Animal Collective
415. Chet Baker Sings - Chet Baker
414. Dig Your Own Hole - The Chemical Brothers
413. Pills N Thrills and Bellyaches - Happy Mondays
412. Entroducing... - DJ Shadow
411. Madvillainy - Madvillain
410. Antics - Interpol
409. Tago Mago - Can
408. Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain - Pavement
407. Going Blank Again - Ride
406. Rated B - Queens of the Stone Age
405. Otis Blue - Otis Redding
404. No Other - Gene Clark
403. Vespertine - Bjork
402. Twenty One - Mystery Jets
401. 20 Jazz Funk Greats - Throbbing Gristle

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Postby Nassim » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:00 am

JimmyJazz wrote:Gotta say, quite a few of the albums so far are pretty significant and acclaimed albums that are ranked at a relatively low number. Specifically numbers 382, 384, 405, 408, 424, 437, 458, 462, 480, and 500 (didn't want to spoil it too much for those who haven't read the list yet.)


You forgot Endtroducing !

#1 is The Queen is Dead.

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Postby Nassim » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:12 am

400) The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace
399) Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - The Lyre of Orpheus/Abattoir Blues
398) Neil Young - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
397) Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
396) Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F.
395) The White Stripes - De Stijl
394) Wire - Chairs Missing
393) Prince - Dirty Mind
392) Edan - Beauty and the Beat
391) Burial - Burial
390) The Verve - A Northern Soul
389) Le Tigre - Le Tigre
388) Tim Buckley - Happy Sad
387) The Clash - Combat Rock
386) Gillian Wellch - Revival
385) The White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan
384) Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley
383) The Long Blondes - Someone To Drive You Home
382) Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water
381) David Bowie - Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
380) Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
379) Belle & Sebastian - The Boy With The Arab Strap
378) Wire - Pink Flag
377) Roy Harper - Stormcock
376) Sam Cooke - Live At The Harlem Square Club

A few albums that made various moderately acclaimed poll in there I think (LAMF for sure, Get Behind Me Satan, Chairs Missing... Happy Sad ?) and a netjade fav (Beauty and the Beat was in nj's top 5 hip-hop album of the 00s if I remember well).

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Postby Harold » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:22 pm

Nassim wrote:#1 is The Queen is Dead.


Announced on the NME site in conjunction with the official release of the issue:

"The Smiths' 1986 LP came top of the list, above albums by The Beatles, David Bowie, Pulp, The Stone Roses and Pixies."

Presumably, these would be Revolver, Ziggy Stardust (although it could also be Hunky Dory or Low), Different Class, the eponymous SR debut, and Doolittle. Assuming these are in fact numbers 2-6, the biggest surprise would have to be no Radiohead in the top 5.

Now that it's out and available digitally (not to people with a Discover card, damn the luck), does someone want to volunteer to handle the posting of the top 375? Thanks in advance on behalf of all of us.

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Postby Ddiamondd » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:51 pm

top 10, taken from another forum:

1. the queen is dead
2. revolver
3. hunky dory
4. is this it
5. velvet underground & nico
6. different class
7. stone roses
8. doolittle
9. the beatles s/t
10. definitely maybe

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Postby sonofsamiam » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:53 pm

You forgot Endtroducing !


I honestly think if DJ Shadow were British, Endtroducing would have made the Top 100.

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Postby sonofsamiam » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:02 pm

From the NME blog (http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/how-we-settled-the-500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-once-and-for-all):


"When a magazine with sixty years of grisly and glittering history behind it decides to mark its new era with a definitive list of the best 500 albums ever made, just what does 'definitive' mean? It means emailing a vast array of alumni from across the NME generations, from the sixties swingers through the hip young gunslingers of the 70s right up to today's troupe of rock'n'roll toreadors, and begging/bullying them to submit lists of their favourite fifty albums of all time. Some joined in, others were too busy/famous now, but we managed to gather together around 80 voters to submit lists, at which point the serious number-crunching began. From those dozens of lists, each Number 1 was allotted fifty points, forty-nine points for Number 2 and so on until our teams of list-flinging work experience students began having numerical nightmares and spreadsheet breakdowns, waking up in heaps of lists screaming ''MARQUEE MOON THIRTY SEVEN POINTS!"

Just when they thought they'd finished and could nurse their bloodied typing fingers, we asked them to add in an identical scoring system for NME's Top 50 albums of the year for every year there's been one."

All this publicity, and they only included Top 50s, and then used the awful 50 points to 1 point scoring system? :angry-banghead:

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Postby Chambord » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:03 pm

How they did it
http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/how-we-settled-the-500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-once-and-for-all

Some individual Top10s
http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/nme-staff-pick-their-top-10-greatest-albums-of-all-time

The "funniest" is Laura Snapes. I used to think she's decent, even followed her on twitter at some point. But when she comes up with 5 The National albums in her Top10 (4 of them taking the top spots) it's hard to take her serious anymore. That's not what she thinks the best 10 albums are. She's just trying to push a band in the final chart. And that's pretty much cheating. She got one thing right tho. Boxer is the best The National album.

There's another dude who similarly has 4 Rolling Stones records as his Top4. Not funny.

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Postby Chambord » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:10 pm

Ddiamondd wrote:top 10, taken from another forum:

1. the queen is dead
2. revolver
3. hunky dory
4. is this it
5. velvet underground & nico
6. different class
7. stone roses
8. doolittle
9. the beatles s/t
10. definitely maybe


Reasons why this final top 10 is a joke (and making the whole 500 endeavour look ridiculous):
- No Radiohead but Pulp / Stone Roses / Oasis instead
- Is this it so high. It's a great album. But AT 4th ???

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Postby Blanco » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:17 pm

¡Diantres! By the individual lists, it seems that In Utero will have a higher position than Nevermind. That is risky. And daring. Risky and daring.

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Postby Harold » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:40 pm

Chambord wrote:- No Radiohead but Pulp / Stone Roses / Oasis instead


Agree on SR & Oasis, but I have to say, I have absolutely no problem with Different Class in the top 10. It's a magnificent album, and I'm kind of thrilled it's getting its due here.

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Postby JimmyJazz » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:20 pm

Ouch! Only two acts from the AM Top 100 Artists list have and album in the Top 10! By scrolling through the available individual Top Tens, doesn't look like the excluded acts fair much better outside of the Top 10 either!

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Postby dendre » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:13 pm

Top 100 is here (article's in Hungarian, but hey):

http://recorder.blog.hu/2013/10/23/az_n ... t_a_smiths

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Postby Harold » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:17 pm

dendre wrote:Top 100 is here:


1. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead (1986)
2. The Beatles - Revolver (1966)
3. David Bowie - Hunky Dory (1972)
4. The Strokes - Is This It (2001)
5. The Velvet Underground  - The Velvet Underground & Nico (1966)
6. Pulp - Different Class (1995)
7. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses (1989)
8. Pixies - Doolittle (1989)
9. The Beatles - The Beatles (1968)
10. Oasis - Definitely Maybe (1994)
11. Nirvana - Nevermind (1991)
12. Patti Smith - Horses (1975)
13. Arcade Fire - Funeral (2004)
14. David Bowie - Low (1977)
15. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake (2011)
16. Joy Division - Closer (1980)
17. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back (1988)
18. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless (1991)
19. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
20. Radiohead - OK Computer (1997)
21. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)
22. Blur - Parklife (1994)
23. David Bowie - The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars (1972)
24. The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St. Street (1972)
25. Marvin Gaye - What's Going On (1971)
26. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds (1966)
27. Primal Scream - Screamadelica (1991)
28. Amy Winehouse - Back To Black (2006)
29. Television - Marquee Moon (1977)
30. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)
31. Suede - Dog Man Star (1994)
32. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (1989)
33. Blur - Modern Life Is Rubbish (1993)
34. The Beatles - Abbey Road (1969)
35. Nirvana - In Utero (1993)
36. Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks (1975)
37. Love - Forever Changes (1967)
38. Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks... Here's The Sex Pistols (1977)
39. The Clash - London Calling (1979)
40. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasure (1979)
41. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (1988)
42. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions (1973)
43. The Beatles - Rubber Soul (1965)
44. Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible (1994)
45. Blondie - Parallel Lines (1978)
46. Björk - Debut (1993)
47. The Smiths - Strangeways, Here We Come (1987)
48. Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love (1985)
49. LCD Soundsystem - Sound Of Silver (2007)
50. Dusty Springfield - Dusty In Memphis (1969)
51. Fleetwood Mac - Rumours (1977)
52. The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed (1969)
53. David Bowie - Station To Station (1976)
54. Talking Heads - Remain In Light (1980)
55. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers (1971)
56. Neil Young - After The Gold Rush (1970)
57. Kraftwerk - The Man Machine (1978)
58. Pixies - Surfer Rosa (1988)
59. Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007)
60. Massive Attack - Blue Lines (1991)
61. The Clash - The Clash (1977)
62. Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde (1966)
63. Joni Mitchell - Blue (1971)
64. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited (1965)
65. REM - Automatic For The People (1992)
66. Radiohead - The Bends (1995)
67. Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory (1995)
68. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks (1968)
69. REM - Murmur (1983)
70. The Libertines - Up The Bracket (2002)
71. Neil Young - Harvest (1972)
72. Lou Reed - Transformer (1972)
73. Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home (1965)
74. Nas - IIImatic (1994)
75. Green Day - Dookie (1994)
76. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
77. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells (2001)
78. Suede - Suede (1993)
79. Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue (1959)
80. Iggy And The Stooges - Raw Power (1973)
81. Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express (1977)
82. Carole King - Tapestry (1971)
83. The Band - The Band (1969)
84. Hole - Live Through This (1994)
85. Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run (1975)
86. Jeff Buckley - Grace (1994)
87. The Beatles - Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)
88. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure (1973)
89. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill (1998)
90. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free (2004)
91. Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain (1984)
92. Super Furry Animals - Radiator (1997)
93. Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf (2002)
94. The Rolling Stone - Beggars Banquet (1968)
95. Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden (1988)
96. Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet (1990)
97. The Smiths - The Smiths (1984)
98. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (1998)
99. The Libertines - The Libertines (2004)
100. The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow (1984)

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Re: NME - 500 Greatest Albums Of All-Time

Postby JimmyJazz » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:40 pm

I have to say, I thought Radiohead would do way better than they did on this list. They've got three albums in the Top 100, but all ranked at fairly low positions. You can definitely tell that this is a list from a British publication, though. The only Prince album is at 91! No Madonna (not so surprising), but no MJ either, which is. At least hip-hop was better represented than I thought it would be.

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Postby Harold » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:40 pm

Highest-ranked AM album not in top 100: The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Are You Experienced (#12).
Lowest-ranked AM album in top 100 (by a wide, wide margin): Super Furry Animals, Radiator (#1645 at AM).
Biggest thrill: In the Aeroplane Over the Sea in top 100.
Oddest thrill: Seeing Sgt. Pepper's at #87, which I'm sure has all the traditionalists all a-flutter. At least NME kept it in the top 100, unlike Entertainment Weekly. As many of the usual suspects are here, a lot of them are in different positions than we're used to seeing, and it's nice that the canon is being upended enough that the once-unshakable consensus Greatest Album of All Time is floating right around where it probably belongs.

Now let's get the rest of this thing posted!

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Re: NME - 500 Greatest Albums Of All-Time

Postby JR » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:57 pm

So, we have positions 101-375 to see at least one Madonna album. Don't let me down, NME. :mrgreen:

Two solo female albums in the top 20- more than the typical list. hehe

Yes- no Sign o' The Times in the top 100 is kinda shocking.

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Postby Nick » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:25 pm

Hopefully the high placements for the Oasis and Blur albums will help push those artists back in the top 60 on AM where they belong.

Also, really nice to see "Sound of Silver", "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea", and "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" score super high, among others.

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Re: NME - 500 Greatest Albums Of All-Time

Postby Ddiamondd » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:18 pm

#21, yessss

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Postby JimmyJazz » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:36 pm

The female representation in the Top 100 is pretty good, however. I quite like seeing PJ Harvey's Let England Shake all the way at #15. :music-listening:

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Re: NME - 500 Greatest Albums Of All-Time

Postby Chris K. » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:28 am

Got the digital issue, here's the rest:

101. Kraftwerk - Computer World
102. The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
103. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
104. The Stooges - Funhouse
105. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
106. Led Zeppelin - IV
107. Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
108. Weezer - Pinkerton
109. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town
110. Fairport Convention - Liege and Lief
111. The Human League - Dare
112. GZA - Liquid Swords
113. Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
114. Radiohead - Kid A
115. Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
116. The White Stripes - Elephant
117. ABC - The Lexicon of Love
118. Dexys Midnight Runners - Searching or the Young Soul Rebels
119. Pulp - His 'N' Hers
120. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
121. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
122. New Order - Technique
123. Blur - 13
124. Paul Simon - Graceland
125. James Brown - Live at the Apollo
126. Beastie Boys - Ill Communication
127. Ramones - Ramones
128. The Verve - Urban Hymns
129. Neil Young - On the Beach
130. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
131. Michael Jackson - Thriller
132. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
133. John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band - John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
134. PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
135. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
136. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell
137. Blur - Blur
138. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
139. The Cure - Disintegration
140. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
141. Bob Marley and the Wailers - Natty Dread
142. Serge Gainsbourg - Histoire De Melody Nelson
143. Bob Dylan - Desire
144. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced
145. The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle
146. At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
147. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
148. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska
149. Elliot Smith - Either/Or
150. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
151. PJ Harvey - Dry
152. Mercury Rev - Deserter's Songs
153. The La's - The La's
154. PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
155. The Prodigy - Music For the Jilted Generation
156. Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We're Floating In Space
157. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy
158. Wild Beasts - Two Dancers
159. Gang of Four - Entertainment!
160. Primal Scream - XTRMTR
161. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
162. The National - The Boxer
163. Neu - Neu '75!
164. Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison
165. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Let Love In
166. Pulp - This is Hardcore
167. Aretha Franklin - Lady Soul
168. Portishead - Dummy
169. Dexys Midnight Runners - Don't Stand Me Down
170. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
171. Talking Heads - Fear of Music
172. Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
173. Led Zeppelin - III
174. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
175. David Bowie - Young Americans
176. Rufus Wainwright - Want One
177. Mogwai - Young Team
178. The Coral - The Coral
179. Missy Elliott - Miss E…So Addictive
180. X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents
181. Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
182. Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go
183. OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
184. MIA - Kala
185. Eric B and Rakim - Paid in Full
186. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
187. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
188. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
189. Todd Rungren - A Wizard, A True Star
190. Pink Floyd - Piper At the Gates of Dawn
191. Elastica - Elastica
192. Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
193. Ryan Adams - Gold
194. Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
195. The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night
196. The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus
197. AC/DC - Back in Black
198. Prince - Sign O' The Times
199. The Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
200. The Breeders - Last Splash
201. The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour
202. Tricky - Maxinquaye
203. Beach House - Teen Dream
204. Michael Jackson - Bad
205. NWA - Straight Outta Compton
206. Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
207. Janis Joplin - Pearl
208. Chic - Risque
209. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
210. The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
211. Grace Jones - Nightclubbing
212. Kings of Leon - Youth and Young Manhood
213. Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove
214. Air - Moon Safari
215. Massive Attack - Mezzanine
216. New Order - Power, Lies and Corrruption
217. Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
218. The Horrors - Primary Colours
219. The Jam - All Mod Cons
220. The National - Alligator
221. Marianne Faithful - Broken English
222. Fever Ray - Fever Ray
223. Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
224. Echo and the Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here
225. T Rex - Electric Warrior
226. The Doors - The Doors
227. John Lennon - Imagine
228. Pavement - Brighten the Corners
229. Public Image Ltd - Metal Box
230. David Bowie - Aladdin Sane
231. Dr. Dre - The Chronic
232. Leonard Cohen - The Songs of Leonard Cohen
233. Babyshambles - Down In Albion
234. Pet Shop Boys - Behaviour
235. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Murder Ballads
236. Suicide - Suicide
237. The xx - The xx
238. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Show Your Bones
239. Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner
240. Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties!!
241. Madonna - Ray of Light
242. Michael Jackson - Off the Wall
243. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns
244. Wild Beasts - Smother
245. Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic
246. Nirvana - MTV Unplugged In New York
247. Glasvegas - Glasvegas
248. Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
249. Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
250. Weezer - Weezer
251. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up
252. Grimes - Visions
253. Pussy Galore - Exile on Main St
254. The Smiths - Meat is Murder
255. Metronomy - The English Riviera
256. Elvis Costello and the Attractions - This Year's Model
257. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - The Boatman's Call
258. Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
259. Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush the Stage
260. The Specials - The Specials
261. Bob Marley and the Wailers - Live!
262. Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
263. Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
264. The Beatles - Please Please Me
265. Hole - Celebrity Skin
266. Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head
267. Dr. Feelgood - Stupidity
268. Todd Rungren - Todd
269. The Horrors - Skying
270. The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society
271. The Velvet Underground - Loaded
272. Coldplay - Parachutes
273. Kanye West - The College Dropout
274. R.E.M. - Green
275. The Who - Quadrophenia
276. Echo and the Bunnymen - Ocean Rain
277. The Sunday - Reading, Writing and Arithmetic
278. The Slits - Cut
279. Captain Beefhart and his Magical Band - Trout Mask Replica
280. Aphex Twin - Drukqs
281. Elvis Costello - My Aim is True
282. Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix
283. Roxy Music - Roxy Music
284. Fugazi - 13 Songs
285. Marvin Gaye - Midnight Love
286. Screaming Trees - Dust
287. Slayer - Reign In Blood
288. Stevie Wonder - Music of My Mind
289. The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers
290. The Bluetones - Expecting to Fly
291. The Byrds - Younger than Yesterday
292. The New Fellas - The Cribs
293. Aztec Camera - High Land Hard Rain
294. Klaxons - Myths of the Near Future
295. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
296. David Bowie - Let's Dance
297. Can - Ege Bamyasi
298. Malcolm McLaren
299. The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane
300. The Who - The Who By Numbers
301. Arthur Russell - World of Echo
302. Daft Punk - Homework
303. Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um
304. The Orb - UFOrb
305. Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells a Story
306. Bob Dyan - The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
307. Beck - Midnight Vultures
308. Lemonheads - It's a Shame About Ray
309. Metallica - Metallica
310. Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstacy
311. Super Furry Animals - Guerilla
312. Cocteau Twins - Treasure
313. Tom Waits - Frank's Wild Years
314. Slint - Spiderland
315. Big Brother and the Holding Company - Cheap Thrills
316. Elvis Costello and the Attractions - Imperial Bedroom
317. Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel
318. Ice-T - OG Original Gangster
319. The Who - Who's Next
320. Tom Waits - Swordfishtrombones
321. Doves - Lost Souls
322. LCD - This is Happening
323. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
324. R.E.M. - Life's Rich Pageant
325. Beck - Sea Change
326. Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One
327. Beck - Mutations
328. The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
329. David Bowie - "Heroes"
330. Portishead - Third
331. MC5 - Kick out the Jams
332. Shack - HMS Fable
333. Paul McCartney and Wings - Band on the Run
334. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
335. Queens of the Stoneage - …Like Clockwork
336. Neneh Cherry - Raw Like Sushi
337. Danger Mouse - The Grey Album
338. Notorious BIG - Ready to Die
339. Pearl Jam - Ten
340. Sister Sledge - We Are Family
341. Tom Waits - Closing Time
342. Spritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies
343. Bob Dylan - John Wesley Harding
344. Eels - Beautiful Freak
345. Elvis Costello - Punch the Clock
346. New Order - Low Life
347. Sonic Youth - Dirty
348. Whitney Houston - Whitney
349. Alt-J - An Awesome Wave
350. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - BRMC
351. The Byrds - Sweetheart of the Rodeo
352. The Velvet Underground - White Light/White Heat
353. Mclusky - Mclusky Do Dallas
354. Isaac Hayes - Hot Buttered Soul
355. New York Dolls - New York Dolls
356. Pixies - Bossanova
357. Sugar - Copper Blue
358. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
359. The Mothers of Invention - We're Only In it for the Money
360. The Strokes - Room on Fire
361. The Faces - A Nod is as Good as a Wink…the a Bliind Horse
362. Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty
363. Black Flag - Damaged
364. Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
365. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegatables
366. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate
367. Metronomy - Nights Out
368. Radiohead - Hail to the Theif
369. St Vincent - Strange Mercy
370. The Cribs - Men's Needs, Women's Needs, Whatever
371. Beck - Odelay
372. Big Black - Atomizer
373. Curtis Mayfield - There's No Place Like America Today
374. Frank Sinatra - In the Wee Small Hours
375. Morrissey - Vauxhall and I

They sure have their favorites. David Bowie and The Smiths are two of my favorite artists ever but even I think they may have gone a little overboard with their albums.

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Re: NME - 500 Greatest Albums Of All-Time

Postby JR » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:36 am

Thanks much, Chris K.

At least one of Madonna's seminal albums made the cut (the omission of Like a Prayer is kinda surprising, though).

And the Whitney album over Whitney Houston? Really?

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Postby Nick » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:45 am

Great showing for a lot of great albums. Especially happy to see "This Is Happening" made it.

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Postby Harold » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:08 am

Thanks for posting the rest of the list, Chris!

A couple of corrections:
#292: You have the band name and album title reversed - it's The New Fellas by The Cribs, not the other way around.
#298: No title listed. Presumably, it's Duck Rock.

Very interesting list. One comment right now: I wish jazz wasn't treated in such a typically perfunctory way - two Miles, one Coltrane, one Mingus, all exactly the ones you'd expect (with the arguable exception of Mingus Ah Um being there instead of Black Saint).

One Dan album, Pete! Better than none.

It takes a lot to stump me, but I can honestly say that I had never heard of The Bluetones until seeing them at #290. Apparently they were quite popular in the 1990s.

Haven't digested the whole list yet, but am I wrong in thinking that Arctic Monkeys' AM turned out to be the only 2013 release to make it?

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Postby JimmyJazz » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:31 am

Actually, Harold, regarding your last question, there is another 2013 release on the list: Random Access Memories, albeit ranked near the bottom. I do wish jazz and early rock acts were represented a little better, but besides Miles, Trane, and Mingus, a few other pre-Beatles acts did appear: Holiday, Elvis, Cash, Cooke, and Chet Baker all have an album on the list, and Sinatra actually has two.

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Postby Harold » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:43 am

JimmyJazz wrote:Actually, Harold, regarding your last question, there is another 2013 release on the list: Random Access Memories, albeit ranked near the bottom.


Right, thanks! And, I just spotted another album from this year - Queens of the Stone Age's ...Like Clockwork. Given My Bloody Valentine's strong presence on the list, it's a little surprising that m b v didn't make it.

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Postby peteevans » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:41 am

Ha ha Harold, yes I suppose one Steely Dan album is better than none ! Of course the list is utterly predictable. Perhaps in the same way as I would say a much fairer poll would be to take a proper cross section of journalists and musicians of all ages, which this clearly is not. This poll ( of just 80 so called music journalists was it, mainly kids no doubt ? ) cannot be regarded in any way as representative of the music industry and should be discounted as completely worthless. Only polls that take several hundred musicians, journalists and artists of all ages and countries can be regarded as genuinely representative. On that basis Steely Dan have always been highly regarded and represented, e.g. Colin Larkin's all time 1000 albums poll. This pool is an utter joke and should be tretaed as such. The Smiths might come number one in a UK kiddy biased poll ,but they are barely heard of in the US, not one single top fifty album in their entire career !

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Re: NME - 500 Greatest Albums Of All-Time

Postby Bruno » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:10 pm

Some greatest artists with no album on the list:

Ray Charles, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, Elton John, The Supremes, Queen, Run-DMC, Black Sabbath, etc ...

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Postby Nassim » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:58 pm

Bruno wrote:Some greatest artists with no album on the list:

Ray Charles, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, Elton John, The Supremes, Queen, Run-DMC, Black Sabbath, etc ...


The Supremes, Fats Domino, Chuck Berry and Ray Charles would probably have done well in a song poll but are not usually considered great albums artists (I don't think any of them had an album in our top 500 eithers).
Elton John and Queen probably still suffer some critical backlash, and I think as far as Queen go they should have many more songs in AM3000 but were not so good at making albums good from front to back (but A Night at the Opera, the blatant exception, would have been expected there !).
Black Sabbath and Run DMC are more surprising for me... especially given that the 1st are British.

Even if listening to a Smiths album is still a painful time for me, I genuinely like this list, which I would not have expected coming from NME. It changes a bit from the "60s are fantastic, everything but 3 or 4 artists since is subpar" lists by RS and co and it mixes genres (at least those we currently rank under rock) and decades (at least the past 6) quite evenly. So yeah, brit pop is too represented (but what did you expect from NME), electronic music underrepresented (a bit strange from a UK magazine), there are some oddities (Glasvegas self titled...) and some strange omission but overall I find it pretty good, or at least not worse than most all time lists I have seen.
And of course, seeing Paul's Boutique and Enter the Wu Tang in the 30s, Songs for the Deaf in the top 100 and Either/Or and Relationship of Command not too far kinda blurred my judgement.
And sure it is UK biased, but not more than any US list is US biased. And I doubt kids would have voted for an 80s band as number one, blame them for Arctic Monkeys and The Strokes being this high if you really want to blame the youngest voters for something.

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Postby Bruno » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:22 pm

Nassim wrote:
Bruno wrote:Some greatest artists with no album on the list:

Ray Charles, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, Elton John, The Supremes, Queen, Run-DMC, Black Sabbath, etc ...


The Supremes, Fats Domino, Chuck Berry and Ray Charles would probably have done well in a song poll but are not usually considered great albums artists (I don't think any of them had an album in our top 500 eithers).
Elton John and Queen probably still suffer some critical backlash, and I think as far as Queen go they should have many more songs in AM3000 but were not so good at making albums good from front to back (but A Night at the Opera, the blatant exception, would have been expected there !).
Black Sabbath and Run DMC are more surprising for me... especially given that the 1st are British.

Agreed about The Supremes, Fats, and Berry. But Ray Charles has "Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music".

Queen: "A Night At The Opera" and maybe "Sheer Heart Attack"
Elton John: "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" and "Captain Fantastic & The Brown Dirt Cowboy"
Run D.M.C: "Raising Hell" and "Run-D.M.C.".
Black Sabbath - "Paranoid" and "Black Sabbath".

The albums in bold are almost mandatory in any top 500, imo.

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Postby VanillaFire1000 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:37 pm

Lack of jazz on the list is expected but still saddening.

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Postby luvulongTIM » Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:48 pm

Harold wrote:
Chambord wrote:- No Radiohead but Pulp / Stone Roses / Oasis instead


Agree on SR & Oasis, but I have to say, I have absolutely no problem with Different Class in the top 10. It's a magnificent album, and I'm kind of thrilled it's getting its due here.


I do agree Pulp made 2 back to back classics but if youre gonna rank The Queen is Dead as #1 Oasis and Stone Roses damn well should be not be far behind. Well Morning Glory not DM. I think Oasis themseves sways voters to vote for Definitely Maybe since theyre known for dispising its follow up. Stone Roses should in fact rank much higher than The Queen is Dead. Where there are a couple of stinker dull moments on The Queen is Dead the only real flaw with SR js that the UK edition lacks two of their best songs: I Am the Ressurrection and Elephant Stone. They may have dropped the ball once the 90s came around but that shouldnt affect the brilliance of this classic.
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Postby Harold » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:08 pm

luvulongTIM wrote: the only real flaw with SR js that the UK edition lacks two of their best songs: I Am the Ressurrection and Elephant Stone.


I think you may have meant "Fools Gold" - "I Am the Resurrection" is definitely the closing track of the UK edition.


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