EOD 2010s Albums Spreadsheet Updates

Critics’ end of decade 2010-2019 lists.
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Re: EOD 2010s Albums Spreadsheet Updates

Post by jdizzle83 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:48 pm

How come the needle drop isn’t included? I’m not a Fantano fanatic but it seems like he definitely is a respected voice in music criticism.

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Post by panam » Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:15 pm

jdizzle83 wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:48 pm
How come the needle drop isn’t included? I’m not a Fantano fanatic but it seems like he definitely is a respected voice in music criticism.
It's not eligible according the rules. But I think in this case Henrik should be more flexible because a list of such a consistent and influential critic source along the decade should not be set aside.

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Post by Nick » Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:46 pm

I really didn't think 2016 was all that special of a year, but apparently the critics disagree. 4 of the top 10 albums on the spreadsheet are from that year.

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Post by Nick » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:02 pm

Also, it's quite funny how the 2017 albums are faring. Many of the top 10 albums of 2017 on AM are doing quite poor on the EOD lists. It's probably not due to an anti-recency bias (which is what's most likely dragging the 2019 albums down), as 2007 albums did great on the 2000s EOD lists. Instead, it's probably due to the fact that many of the artists in the top 10 had released even higher acclaimed albums this decade, and critics are just defaulting to the more acclaimed album.

Anyway, here's the top 10 albums of 2017 on AM, and their position on the EOD spreadsheet in parentheses. Some real interesting stuff here...

1. Kendrick Lamar- DAMN (#19)
2. LCD Soundsystem- American Dream (#776)
3. Lorde- Melodrama (#14)
4. St. Vincent- MASSEDUCTION (#273)
5. The War on Drugs- A Deeper Understanding (#596)
6. Vince Staples- Big Fish Theory (#177)
7. The National- Sleep Well Beast (#938)
8. SZA- Ctrl (#28)
9. King Krule- The Ooz (#119)
10. Slowdive- Slowdive (#154)

On the other hand...

11. Mount Eerie- A Crow Looked at Me (#45)
13. Arca- Arca (#63)
21. Tyler, The Creator- Flower Boy (#87)
17. Fever Ray- Plunge (#96)

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Re: EOD 2010s Albums Spreadsheet Updates

Post by prosecutorgodot » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:59 am

Nick wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:46 pm
I really didn't think 2016 was all that special of a year, but apparently the critics disagree. 4 of the top 10 albums on the spreadsheet are from that year.
For me, 2016 was the top year for albums. The worst might be 2015, just because it's the only year of the decade where I don't have a solid top 10...

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Re: EOD 2010s Albums Spreadsheet Updates

Post by Nick » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:06 pm

prosecutorgodot wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:59 am
Nick wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:46 pm
I really didn't think 2016 was all that special of a year, but apparently the critics disagree. 4 of the top 10 albums on the spreadsheet are from that year.
For me, 2016 was the top year for albums. The worst might be 2015, just because it's the only year of the decade where I don't have a solid top 10...
Pretty funny you say that, as 2015 was a great year in music for me. If I had to take a rough stab at ranking the years in music, it’d probably go something like...

1. 2010
2. 2013
3. 2015
4. 2012
5. 2018
6. 2011
7. 2014
8. 2016
9. 2017
10. 2019

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Post by Rocky Raccoon » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:04 pm

Nick wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:02 pm
Also, it's quite funny how the 2017 albums are faring. Many of the top 10 albums of 2017 on AM are doing quite poor on the EOD lists. It's probably not due to an anti-recency bias (which is what's most likely dragging the 2019 albums down), as 2007 albums did great on the 2000s EOD lists. Instead, it's probably due to the fact that many of the artists in the top 10 had released even higher acclaimed albums this decade, and critics are just defaulting to the more acclaimed album.

Anyway, here's the top 10 albums of 2017 on AM, and their position on the EOD spreadsheet in parentheses. Some real interesting stuff here...

1. Kendrick Lamar- DAMN (#19)
2. LCD Soundsystem- American Dream (#776)
3. Lorde- Melodrama (#14)
4. St. Vincent- MASSEDUCTION (#273)
5. The War on Drugs- A Deeper Understanding (#596)
6. Vince Staples- Big Fish Theory (#177)
7. The National- Sleep Well Beast (#938)
8. SZA- Ctrl (#28)
9. King Krule- The Ooz (#119)
10. Slowdive- Slowdive (#154)

On the other hand...

11. Mount Eerie- A Crow Looked at Me (#45)
13. Arca- Arca (#63)
21. Tyler, The Creator- Flower Boy (#87)
17. Fever Ray- Plunge (#96)
It would be interesting to see this sort of breakdown for every year.

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Re: EOD 2010s Albums Spreadsheet Updates

Post by Holden » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:44 pm

We were all talking about ranking years, so I used the current spreadsheets in order to rank them based on current albums and songs. I took the Top 100 from each category, and used the formula for the AM Artists Ranking List and treated each year as an artist. Here are the results:
Song Rankings (Points)
01 | 2010 (4.33)
02 | 2012 (4.20)
03 | 2016 (3.94)
04 | 2015 (3.70)
05 | 2011 (3.63)
06 | 2013 (2.51)
07 | 2018 (1.89)
08 | 2014 (1.88)
09 | 2017 (1.47)
10 | 2019 (0.81)

Album Rankings (Points)
01 | 2016 (4.99)
02 | 2015 (4.34)
03 | 2010 (4.31)
04 | 2013 (3.48)
05 | 2012 (3.27)
06 | 2014 (2.23)
07 | 2011 (2.20)
08 | 2017 (1.88)
09 | 2018 (1.32)
10 | 2019 (0.36)

Overall Rankings (Points)
01 | 2016 (8.93)
02 | 2010 (8.64)
03 | 2015 (8.04)
04 | 2012 (7.47)
05 | 2013 (5.99)
06 | 2011 (5.83)
07 | 2014 (4.10)
08 | 2017 (3.35)
09 | 2018 (3.21)
10 | 2019 (1.18)
Last edited by Holden on Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: EOD 2010s Albums Spreadsheet Updates

Post by andyd1010 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:00 pm

This is pretty striking. Henrik, I'm curious what your plans are to counteract 2019 getting obviously shortchanged on these lists. Did a similar thing happen with 2009?

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Re: EOD 2010s Albums Spreadsheet Updates

Post by Holden » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:26 pm

More looks like a bias against the list three years of the decade together, not just 2019, though that does get a much more severe treatment.
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Post by Henrik » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:33 pm

I do have counteracting methods! And yes, it happened to 2009 as well.
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Re: EOD 2010s Albums Spreadsheet Updates

Post by Jackson » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:24 pm

andyd1010 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:00 pm
This is pretty striking. Henrik, I'm curious what your plans are to counteract 2019 getting obviously shortchanged on these lists. Did a similar thing happen with 2009?
This is a good reason for publications to wait until after the decade has officially ended before releasing an EOD list. Think of how many EOD lists came out before albums like Ghosteen, Magdalene, and All Mirrors were even released.

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Re: EOD 2010s Albums Spreadsheet Updates

Post by Jimoincolor » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:50 pm

Is anybody updating the new lists after Harold requested? We had quite a few.

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