90s SONGS Poll: The Results

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:59 pm

26 | Nirvana | Lithium | 1991 | 959.27

Fan: beefsupreme #3 , Harold #4 , Listyguy #9

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1991 poll: 10

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 33

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 86

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Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:00 am

25 | Björk | Bachelorette | 1997 | 959.83

Fan: Moonbeam #3 , Michel #6 , sonofsamiam #11 , nicolas #14

Not a Fan: Greg #143

Place in 1997 poll: 5

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:01 am

24 | Nirvana | Come As You Are | 1991 | 962.16

Fan: Chris K #2 , VanillaFire1000 #8

Not a Fan: Zorg #101/107

Place in 1991 poll: 13

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 88

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Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:02 am

23 | Portishead | Glory Box | 1994 | 963.19

Fan: Henrik #6 , beefsupreme #14

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1994 poll: 7

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 61

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Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:03 am

22 | Buena Vista Social Club | Chan Chan | 1997 | 968.04

Fan: Miguel #3 , nicolas #4 , Henrik #8 , Dan #10 , Honorio #12

Not a Fan: Harold #137/140

Comments:
“Ry Cooder once told that the first time he felt that the best thing he could do was stop playing his guitar and simply listen was when he went to Cuba. Fortunately he changed his mind and played some humble slide on the background like on this delicious "Chan Chan."” Honorio

Place in 1997 poll: 9

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

http://open.spotify.com/track/6Zh1zzzZSF9V1jEUWlFRr4
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Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:05 am

21 | Blur | Song 2 | 1997 | 976.37

Fan: Michel #4 , Olivier #9 , Nick #11

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1997 poll: 6

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 40

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 14

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Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:07 am

Top 20 tomorrow evening (forum time).

Zorg · Post by **Zorg** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:15 am

Great results!

nicolas · Post by **nicolas** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:48 am

Happy to see Buena Vista so high !

Gillingham · Post by **Gillingham** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:10 pm

I didn't participate in the songs poll, but I quite like the results so far.
Let's see the top 20.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:40 pm

20 | Massive Attack | Teardrop | 1998 | 990.37

Fan: Nassim #7 , Henrik #15

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1998 poll: 2

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 18

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 72

http://open.spotify.com/track/67Hna13dNDkZvBpTXRIaOJ
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19 | Oasis | Wonderwall | 1995 | 1001.60

Fan: Michel #3 , Listyguy #8 , Nick #9 , VanillaFire1000 #9 , Miguel #13 , Henry #14 , Olivier #15

Not a Fan: Moonbeam #150 , Zorg #107/107 , beefsupreme #148

Place in 1995 poll: 2

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 21

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 10

YouTube Link
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18 | Red Hot Chili Peppers | Under the Bridge | 1991 | 1003.55

Fan: Kingoftonga #1 , Olivier #3 , Harold #12 , Listyguy #14

Not a Fan: Brad #141

Place in 1991 poll: 6

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 77

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 43

http://open.spotify.com/track/5WeMY5Yfd7LQmHhIQ0Qh39
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17 | R.E.M. | Nightswimming | 1992 | 1014.33

Fan: Listyguy #4 , Harold #9 , Kingoftonga #10 , Greg #15

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1992 poll: 2

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 24

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

http://open.spotify.com/track/2xLSFrm2oBeMtBMjlAoZSC
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16 | Massive Attack | Unfinished Sympathy | 1991 | 1023.34

Fan: Greg #6 , Dan #9 , Henrik #11 , Miguel #11 , Nick #14 , Zorg #14

Not a Fan: None

Comments
“The electronic hymn of the 90s, equally apt for the ecstasy on the dance floor (courtesy of its house rhythm and hip-hop scratching) and for the seclusion in your bedroom (courtesy of its amazing string arrangements and the soulful Shara Nelson vocals).” Honorio

Place in 1991 poll: 4

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 11

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 6

http://open.spotify.com/track/0j5FJJOmmnXPd0XajFWkMF
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15 | Depeche Mode | Enjoy the Silence | 1990 | 1027.69

Fan: Henrik #1 , Dan #8 , Moonbeam #8 , Chris K #11

Not a Fan: VanillaFire1000 #149

Place in 1990 poll: 2

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 35

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 68

http://open.spotify.com/track/2IUgHdkkS3eJaaU1GdC6h4
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14 | Sinead O'Connor | Nothing Compares 2 U | 1990 | 1048.61

Fan: Michel #8 , Moonbeam #14

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1990 poll: 1

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 16

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 7

http://open.spotify.com/track/4j6Hkosuk9xHcowXjtwefs
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13 | Radiohead | Karma Police | 1997 | 1063.37

Fan: Romain #2 , Michel #10 , Listyguy #12 , Dan #13 , nicolas #13

Not a Fan: Henrik #141

Place in 1997 poll: 4

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 20

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 39

http://open.spotify.com/track/4toSP60xmDNCFuXly8ywNZ
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12 | Sigur Rós | Svefn-G-Englar | 1999 | 1068.89

Fan: Zorg #3 , Henrik #7 , Romain #8 , Brad #12 , Chris K #13

Not a Fan: beefsupreme #147

Place in 1999 poll: 2

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 31

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 152

http://open.spotify.com/track/71waKYDRl7DuRNaVXQkTMd
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11 | The Verve | Bittersweet Symphony | 1997 | 1089.89

Fan: Nick #1 , Romain #7 , Chris K #10 , Olivier #10 , Miguel #14

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1997 poll: 3

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 13

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 4

YouTube Link
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I'll try to have the top 10 ready by 22:30 forum time.

Post by **Henrik** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:31 pm

There were a few songs that I had never heard before this poll, that I liked a lot. It would have been nice if Daniel Johnston's "Some Things Last a Long Time" had made it, as well as Prince's "A Question of U" (which I had listened to before but completely forgotten). I also wasn't very familiar with Bonnie Raitt's "I Can't Make You Love Me" and it was a surprise grower for me. These all ended up in the 60-80 region for me, which is not bad at all.

And I wonder how far away from the top 100 Yann Tiersen's "La valse des monstres" was, it was my #2!

But now it's all about the top 10 I guess...

Post by **Honorio** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:14 pm

It's surprising to see Oasis falling down so much from the last poll. Well, "Wonderwall" even raised its position (from #21 to #19) but "Don't Look Back in Anger" fell from #36 to #97 and specially "Live Forever" that was on our Top 10 last time (#10) and now is... #64!! And obviously I don't expect to find "Champagne Supernova" on the Top 10. Probably that main reason for that is that Anthony is no longer around. But... where is "One"? Could it get to the Top 10 without the passionate campaign of Anthony? Let's see...
Sadly some of my favourites came down too, three songs from my Top 10 got worse positions than last time: "Like Dylan in the Movies" fell from #45 to #62, "Let Down" fell out of the Top 10 too, from #9 to #34 and "Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space" from #34 to #69 (if Jackson would had voted). Anyway I can't complain, this fact get compensated for the good positions of some favourites that were not on the last poll like "It's Oh so Quiet", "Roads" or "Chan Chan."

Post by **Honorio** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:24 pm

Mmm, 2 of the Top 10 of last poll are already out (the #10 "Live Forever" and #9 "Let Down") and one was not elegible ("There She Goes", #7 last time). Which will be the three new songs? I can't think about two (and I'm not going to reveal it) but I'm not sure about the third... Surprise, surprise...

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:31 pm

10 | U2 | One | 1991 | 1092.82

Fan: Nick #6 , Chris K #8 , Harold #8 , Henry #13 , Dan #15

Not a Fan: beefsupreme #149/149

Place in 1991 poll: 3

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 8

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 9

http://open.spotify.com/track/3PY7bg1gPZIurkWnRguKUF
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9 | Elliott Smith | Waltz #2 (XO) | 1998 | 1110.1

Fan: Nassim #1 , Brad #3 , Honorio #8

Not a Fan: None

Comments:
“One of the best uses of ¾ rhythm on pop music. Some clever references to songs by Linda Ronstadt and the Everly Brothers. A wonderful vocal performance, sweet but emotionally charged. Great lyrics that begins cryptic but ends personal (referencing "his relationship with his estranged father" AMG). Probably the best bridge ever on a pop song (from 2'55" to 3'12"). Oh, and this line: "I'm never gonna know you now / but I'm gonna love you anyhow."” Honorio

Place in 1998 poll: 1

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 14

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 156

http://open.spotify.com/track/6pzmC5wnMeue9QZbuhWaX3
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8 | Beck | Loser | 1993 | 1140.75

Fan: Kingoftonga #2 , Michel #2 , beefsupreme #5 , Nick #8

Not a Fan: Moonbeam #146

Comments:
“Drum machines and slide guitars. Hip hop and talking blues. Rap and folk. "Soy un perdedor / I'm a loser, baby / so why don't you kill me?"” Honorio

Place in 1993 poll: 1

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 17

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 5

http://open.spotify.com/track/4b8GTae6rqb9oPiRzVa3Gy
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7 | Nirvana | All Apologies | 1993 | 1158.47

Fan: Listyguy #3 , Kingoftonga #4 , beefsupreme #11 , Miguel #15 , Romain #15 , sonofsamiam #15

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1993 poll: 2

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 26

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 53

http://open.spotify.com/track/5dOztgRr43gOO0vIQs2N1y
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6 | Radiohead | No Surprises | 1997 | 1186.11

Fan: Chris K #1 , Honorio #1 , Greg #7 , Brad #9 , Nassim #9 , Henrik #10 , Dan #11

Not a Fan: Zorg #104/107

Comments:
“Morrissey recommended us to hang the DJ "because the music that he constantly plays / it says nothing to me about my life." Songs are pieces of other people's lives that only gets its true sense when are integrated in yours. That's why I've decided that "No Surprises" talks about my own life. About the job that slowly kills me. About my pretty house and my pretty garden. About my life with no alarms and no surprises.” Honorio

“I always considered this the highlight of the album.” VanillaFire1000

Place in 1997 poll: 2

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 5

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 112

http://open.spotify.com/track/4uBzDO9wmPEXBKhfwAlMFJ
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5 | Radiohead | Paranoid Android | 1997 | 1202.4

Fan: Harold #1 , Brad #4 , Romain #6 , Nick #7 , Olivier #8 , sonofsamiam #10 , Listyguy #11 , nicolas #11 , Chris K #12

Not a Fan: Zorg #106/107

Place in 1997 poll: 1

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 2

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 15

http://open.spotify.com/track/0LTZD4vTsp0EN1wXatc9IR
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4 | Jeff Buckley | Hallelujah | 1994 | 1207.22

Fan: Listyguy #1 , VanillaFire1000 #2 , Dan #4 , nicolas #7 , Henry #8 , Honorio #9 , Harold #11 , Greg #12

Not a Fan: beefsupreme #146

Comments:
“Probably the most obvious example of a cover that surpasses the original in terms of acclaim and also of artistic achievement. And only features voice and electric guitar. But, what a voice! A voice that justifies all the acclaim (and more), a voice that manages to be simultaneously sweet and passionate, immaculate and chilling, natural and stylish, calmed and poignant…” Honorio

“Perhaps the greatest cover ever? Sadly, it has become the go-to song in Hollywood for “sad but spiritual” moments.” VanillaFire1000

Place in 1994 poll: 1

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 6

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 91

http://open.spotify.com/track/5qv0ohJV2QNwga79jLNDYQ
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3 | Pulp | Common People | 1995 | 1212.11

Fan: Nick #2 , Harold #3 , nicolas #5 , Dan #6 , Zorg #8 , Chris K #9 , Henry #11 , Henrik #14

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1995 poll: 1

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 1

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 2

http://open.spotify.com/track/0LEoCPq4QlV2h41Fm5ENJ3
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2 | R.E.M. | Losing My Religion | 1991 | 1263.56

Fan: Dan #2 , Harold #2 , Nick #3 , Chris K #4 , Honorio #4 , Henry #12 , Michel #14 , Kingoftonga #15 , VanillaFire1000 #15

Not a Fan: Moonbeam #143

Comments:
“Life is bigger, bigger than you. Michael Stipe sending out a string of inscrutable confessions. That's me in the spotlight, losing my religion. Peter Buck playing a mandolin out of time. Consider this the hint of the century. The poetic (and commercial) zenith that R.E.M. were pursuing from the middle eighties. But I've said too much. I haven't said enough.” Honorio

Place in 1991 poll: 1

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 4

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 3

http://open.spotify.com/track/74EV0g12ihUoOUXMprFpZB
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1 | Nirvana | Smells Like Teen Spirit | 1991 | 1517.35

Fan: Dan #1 , Romain #1 , Henrik #5 , Miguel #5 , Nick #5, Henry #6 , Honorio #6 , nicolas #6 , beefsupreme #7 , Kingoftonga #7 , Harold #10 , Michel #15

Not a Fan: None

Comments:
“Krist Novoselic said (for the VH1 "Classic Albums" series, go to 37'10" here) that when Butch Vig showed to the members of the band the rough mix of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" they became shocked: "Did we do that?" The sound was so bright but also so powerful that the song was able to appeal both the alternative and mainstream audiences. And that was exactly what happened.” Honorio

Place in 1991 poll: 2

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 3

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 1

http://open.spotify.com/track/4CeeEOM32jQcH3eN9Q2dGj
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nicolas · Post by **nicolas** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:48 pm

Great top 10! I love the first 2, songs that still rule in spite of radio overplay.
And I'm also happy for Paranoid Android. There's a great comment on that song in the French dictionary of rock that qi habe at home. They say it is built in several segments like "Good Vibrations". It's too long to be quoted and translayed here but it says in the end "Jonny Greenwood plays a chorus like a sonic explosion where Hendrix meets musique concrète, then fading away to leave way to a strange Gregorian chant.
Now I realize that the whole top 10 was in my all time song list except "All Apologies"

Listyguy · Post by **Listyguy** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:25 pm

I'm shocked that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" won (hell, it didn't even win it's year poll). I'm also surprised by the fall of "Paranoid Android".

Post by **Henrik** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:21 am

Impeccable presentation, Dan!!! Thank you so much!

Listyguy, if you're shocked about "Smells Like Teen Spirit" winning (?) then look at the winning margin!

Other notes:
"Under the Bridge" moving up from #77 to #18 is shocking! Suddenly we are lovers and not haters. And as Honorio noted, the opposite happened to "Live Forever".

Beefsupreme is not keen on ballads. At least something that didn't come as a shock.

Post by **Henrik** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:26 am

nicolas wrote:Great top 10! I love the first 2, songs that still rule in spite of radio overplay.
And I'm also happy for Paranoid Android. There's a great comment on that song in the French dictionary of rock that qi habe at home. They say it is built in several segments like "Good Vibrations". It's too long to be quoted and translayed here but it says in the end "Jonny Greenwood plays a chorus like a sonic explosion where Hendrix meets musique concrète, then fading away to leave way to a strange Gregorian chant.
Now I realize that the whole top 10 was in my all time song list except "All Apologies"

I wish all segments were as good as on "Good Vibrations". To me, "OK Computer" is quite a lot like "Grace", marvellous when smooth (I'm happy for "Hallelujah" and "No Surprises") but I have an issue with the rocking parts.

Moonbeam · Post by **Moonbeam** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:46 am

Awesome presentation, Dan! Lots of songs I loathe in that top 20. I imagine my correlation with the overall list is quite low... Still, a decent list overall and I made some nice discoveries!

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:27 am

I am looking forward to the 101-150 list.

Post by **Honorio** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:57 am

Aaah, "All Apologies" at #7 was the suprise! Didn't see it coming...

Post by **Honorio** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:20 pm

4 songs on my Top 25 did not get to the overall Top 100: "Beautiful Ones", "Groove Is in the Heart" (Otisredding, I missed you here), "Via Chicago" (Jonathon, I missed you here) and "Red Alert"

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:34 pm

Timings for the rest of the results (forum time):

7pm = #101-120
8pm = #121-140
9pm = #141-150

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:58 pm

101 | Deee-Lite | Groove Is in the Heart | 1990 | 733.13

Fan: Moonbeam #7

Not a Fan: Listyguy #141

Comments:
“An irresistible dance groove, some distinguished collaborations (Bootsy Collins on bass, Q-Tip on rap and samples from Maceo Parker brass) and Lady Miss Kier as the perfect disco diva made one of the best dance numbers ever. Just de-lovely and delicious.” Honorio

Place in 1990 poll: 3

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 32

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 18

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102 | Beck | Sexx Laws | 1999 | 731.41

Fan: None

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1999 poll: 12

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 78

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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103 | Blur | Tender | 1999 | 728.75

Fan: Chris K #5 , Romain #9

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1999 poll: 3

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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104 | Weezer | Buddy Holly | 1994 | 727.64

Fan: Olivier #2

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1994 poll: 12

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 62

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 83

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105 | Wilco | Via Chicago | 1999 | 727.58

Fan: Zorg #11

Not a Fan: Henrik #147

Comments
“I got knocked out seeing this song live, in the middle of the song they sounded like a jet taking off while Jeff Tweedy continued singing, indifferent to the chaos behind him.” Honorio

Place in 1999 poll: 7

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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106 | Pixies | Velouria | 1990 | 723.29

Fan: Brad #23 , nicolas #23

Not a Fan: VanillaFire1000 #144 , Nassim #142

Place in 1990 poll: 11

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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107 | Madredeus | O Pastor | 1990 | 721.74

Fan: Miguel #2

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1990 poll: 15

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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108 | Pavement | Fillmore Jive | 1994 | 721.3

Fan: Brad #1 , Nassim #6

Not a Fan: Henrik #149 , Honorio #149 , Dan #148 , Olivier #142

Place in 1994 poll: 9

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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109 | The Magnetic Fields | Papa Was a Rodeo | 1999 | 720.25

Fan: Greg #8

Not a Fan: beefsupreme #145

Place in 1999 poll: 6

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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110 | Yann Tiersen | La Valse des monstres | 1995 | 719.67

Fan: Henrik #2

Not a Fan: Chris K #146 , Listyguy #142 , VanillaFire1000 #142

Place in 1995 poll: 15

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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111 | Prince | Crystal Ball | 1998 | 717.03

Fan: Moonbeam #2 , Romain #10

Not a Fan: Henry #149 , Olivier #149 , Nassim #147 , Harold #134/140

Place in 1998 poll: 13

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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112 | OutKast | Rosa Parks | 1998 | 715.09

Fan: beefsupreme #6

Not a Fan: Henry #145 , Miguel #141

Place in 1998 poll: 8

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 177

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113 | Noir Désir | Tostaky | 1992 | 714.66

Fan: Romain #11

Not a Fan: Chris K #145 , Harold #136/140

Place in 1992 poll: 12

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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114 | Liz Phair | 6'1" | 1993 | 713.72

Fan: Zorg #4

Not a Fan: Dan #147 , Nassim #146

Place in 1993 poll: 14

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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115 | Belle and Sebastian | The State I'm In | 1996 | 713.31

Fan: Brad #6

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1996 poll: 7

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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116 | Wu-Tang Clan | C.R.E.A.M. | 1993 | 710.45

Fan: beefsupreme #2

Not a Fan: Romain #144

Place in 1993 poll: 12

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 95

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117 | The Sundays | Here’s Where the Story Ends | 1990 | 708.34

Fan: None

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1990 poll: 10

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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118 | Tortoise | Djed | 1996 | 708.24

Fan: Zorg #2

Not a Fan: nicolas #147

Comments:
“Being 20 minutes isn't always a bad thing, but in this case, it is.” Listyguy

Place in 1996 poll: 5

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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119 | Oasis | Champagne Supernova | 1995 | 707.05

Fan: Henry #10

Not a Fan: Honorio #146 , Moonbeam #144 , Henrik #143 , sonofsamiam #141

Place in 1995 poll: 13

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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120 | Hole | Malibu | 1998 | 700.58

Fan: Greg #4

Not a Fan: Dan #141

Place in 1998 poll: 9

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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Post by **Honorio** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:46 pm

Dan wrote:Pavement | Fillmore Jive | 1994
Not a Fan: Henrik #149 , Honorio #149 , Dan #148

Hahaha, not only we agree on the things we like but even on the things we don't like.
Only one exception: Henrik and me are almost antagonistic about... Wilco ("Via Chicago" was my #23 and Henrik's #147!!!)

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:55 pm

121 | The Cardigans | Lovefool | 1996 | 698.53

Fan: None

Not a Fan: Greg #147 , Moonbeam #145

Place in 1996 poll: 12

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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122 | William Sheller | Un homme heureux | 1991 | 698.09

Fan: nicolas #10

Not a Fan: Kingoftonga #141

Place in 1991 poll: 15

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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123 | Mogwai | Mogwai Fear Satan | 1997 | 691.75

Fan: Zorg #15

Not a Fan: Greg #144

Comments:
“Half of me loves this song, half of me hates it.” Listyguy

Place in 1997 poll: 15

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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124 | Tom Waits | Jesus Gonna Be Here | 1992 | 689.46

Fan: None

Not a Fan: Henry #150

Place in 1992 poll: 14

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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125 | Prince | The Question of U | 1990 | 689.45

Fan: Moonbeam #4 , Romain #5

Not a Fan: Kingoftonga #149/149 , Olivier #148 , Dan #143

Place in 1990 poll: 12

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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126 | Suede | Beautiful Ones | 1996 | 685.14

Fan: Honorio #11

Not a Fan: Harold #139/140 , Nassim #148

Comments:
“The first four singles from "Coming Up" worked like concept series of songs about those "lazy" "trash" "beautiful ones" you can see on any given "Saturday night." Here they come, the beautiful ones...” Honorio

Place in 1996 poll: 15

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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127 | Eminem | My Name Is | 1999 | 681.63

Fan: Nick #23

Not a Fan: Listyguy #150 , Brad #149 , Miguel #146

Place in 1999 poll: 5

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 88

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 32

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128 | Family | Nadadora | 1994 | 677.79

Fan: Miguel #1

Not a Fan: Olivier #145 , Chris K #143

Place in 1994 poll: 15

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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129 | The Prodigy | Firestarter | 1996 | 672.14

Fan: None

Not a Fan: Listyguy #145

Place in 1996 poll: 8

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 76

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 20

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130 | Moby | Porcelain | 1999 | 671.84

Fan: None

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1999 poll: 15

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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131 | Basement Jaxx | Red Alert | 1999 | 669.8

Fan: Honorio #25

Not a Fan: Michel #149/149 , Kingoftonga #146 , Listyguy #146

Comments:
“And the music keeps on playin' on and on! Vibrant nu-house at the end of the decade. Tonight let's gonna party like it's 1999.” Honorio

Place in 1999 poll: 11

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 85

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 132

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132 | Weezer | El Scorcho | 1996 | 669.35

Fan: Kingoftonga #6 , Nassim #10

Not a Fan: Dan #150 , Brad #142 , Moonbeam #141

Place in 1996 poll: 10

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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133 | Disco Inferno | The Last Dance / The Long Dance | 1993 | 666.77

Fan: sonofsamiam #21

Not a Fan: beefsupreme #141

Place in 1993 poll: 8

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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134 | The Magnetic Fields | 100,000 Fireflies | 1991 | 665.7

Fan: Greg #1

Not a Fan: beefsupreme #144 , Kingoftonga #143 , nicolas #142 , Nassim #141

Comments
“I always imagine this as the saddest Christmas song ever. Early Magnetic fields is like the blueprint for Sufjan Steven's Christmas Eps.” VanillaFire1000

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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135 | Bonnie Raitt | I Can't Make You Love Me | 1991 | 663.66

Fan: Henry #1 , Greg #5

Not a Fan: Olivier #150 , Romain #150 , Chris K #149 , Brad #146, Dan #145 , Michel #145 , Nassim #144 , nicolas #144

Place in 1991 poll: 12

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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136 | Amon Tobin | Nightlife | 1998 | 662.45

Fan: sonofsamiam #2

Not a Fan: Romain #146 , Chris K #142 , Greg #142

Place in 1998 poll: 15

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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137 | New Order | Regret | 1993 | 661.78

Fan: Moonbeam #10

Not a Fan: Nassim #149 , nicolas #145

Place in 1993 poll: 10

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 84

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138 | Daniel Johnston | Some Things Last a Long Time | 1990 | 659.12

Fan: None

Not a Fan: nicolas #149 , VanillaFire1000 #148

Place in 1990 poll: 9

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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139 | R.E.M. | At My Most Beautiful | 1998 | 658.01

Fan: None

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1998 poll: 14

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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140 | Pharcyde | Passin' Me By | 1992 | 656.82

Fan: VanillaFire1000 #5

Not a Fan: Romain #149 , Listyguy #144 , Harold #131/140

Place in 1992 poll: 11

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 178

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Post by **Honorio** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:12 pm

Dan wrote:Bonnie Raitt | I Can't Make You Love Me | 1991
Not a Fan: Olivier #150 , Romain #150 , Chris K #149 , Brad #146, Dan #145 , Michel #145 , Nassim #144 , nicolas #144

Wow, France against Bonnie !!

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:58 pm

141 | 2Pac feat. Dr. Dre | California Love | 1996 | 649.84

Fan: beefsupreme #10 , VanillaFire1000 #11

Not a Fan: Honorio #148 , Michel #147 , Brad #145 , Romain #145 , Miguel #144

Comments:
“Defining song of 2Pac's career, which I guess is a little ironic.” VanillaFire1000

Place in 1996 poll: 4

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 97

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 56

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142 | Santana feat. Rob Thomas | Smooth | 1999 | 637.14

Fan: Henry #4 , VanillaFire1000 #13

Not a Fan: Brad #150 , Chris K #150 , Greg #150 , sonofsamiam #150 , Harold #140/140 , Romain #148 , Michel #143 , Olivier #143

Place in 1999 poll: 13

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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143 | LL Cool J | Mama Said Knock You Out | 1990 | 628.57

Fan: Harold #24

Not a Fan: Nick #75/75 , Henry #148 , Miguel #142 , Romain #141

Place in 1990 poll: 6

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 113

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144 | Manic Street Preachers | A Design for Life | 1996 | 620.45

Fan: None

Not a Fan: Michel #142

Place in 1996 poll: 2

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 42

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 94

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145 | Aphex Twin | Windowlicker | 1999 | 602.16

Fan: Nick #10

Not a Fan: Listyguy #148 , Henry #142

Place in 1999 poll: 9

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 87

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 28

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146 | They Might Be Giants | Birdhouse in Your Soul | 1990 | 596.7

Fan: sonofsamiam #23

Not a Fan: Greg #146 , Henrik #144 , Olivier #144

Place in 1990 poll: 14

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 102

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147 | Third Eye Blind | Semi-Charmed Life | 1997 | 591.79

Fan: Henry #7 , VanillaFire1000 #12

Not a Fan: Nassim #150 , Greg #149 , Moonbeam #149 , sonofsamiam #149 , Brad #148 , nicolas #148 , Henrik #146 , Honorio #145 , Dan #142 , Kingoftonga #142 , Michel #141

Comments:
“An incredibly morbid song is hidden underneath the late 90s power pop/punk sound.” VanillaFire1000

Place in 1997 poll: 14

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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148 | Robin S. | Show Me Love | 1993 | 574.83

Fan: None

Not a Fan: Michel #148 , Brad #147 , Kingoftonga #147 , Romain #147 , nicolas #146 , Honorio #142 , Harold #132/140

Place in 1993 poll: 11

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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149 | The Charlatans | The Only One I Know | 1990 | 558.44

Fan: None

Not a Fan: None

Place in 1990 poll: 8

Place in 90s poll of 2007: 94

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): 117

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150 | Travis | Driftwood | 1999 | 530.91

Fan: None

Not a Fan: sonofsamiam #148 , Harold #135/140

Place in 1999 poll: 10

Place in 90s poll of 2007: -

Acclaimed Music 90s rank (top 200): -

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"Smooth" had the largest amount of #150s, "Semi-Charmed Life" had the largest amount of bottom 10 placements, but it was "Driftwood" that was met with the least amount of enthusiasm in general.

Mattceinicram · Post by **Mattceinicram** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:13 pm

I think Smells Like Teen Spirit deserves the number 1 spot just for it's impact. Beyond that, just the opening rift automatically draws you in in a way alot of songs can't accomplish.

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:13 pm

Bonnie Raitt's "I Can't Make You Love Me" was my favorite song among those included in the poll. It's powerful message of unrequited love is delivered impeccably by Raitt and has moved many others including the following who have recorded versions of this wonderful song: Prince, Bon Iver, George Michael, Bonnie Tyler, Nancy Wilson, Patti LaBelle and Adele. My guess is that those who were not fans found the song to be predictable and somewhat uninteresting. But, I was glad to see that Greg also appreciates this masterpiece.

Santana's collaboration with Dave Matthews, "Smooth" was my 4th favorite song among those included in the poll. The songs certainly rocks and the vocals by Matthews are powerful. The song has great hooks and is clearly accessible and had popular appeal. The non-fans for this song are plentiful in this poll. I respect the views of all the poll voters, and appreciate VanillaFire's support of this magnificent song which won three grammy awards including: song of the year, record of the year, and best pop collaboration with vocals. Thomas co-wrote the song with Itaal Shur who had extensive musical training and now has his own artist development and production company.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:40 pm

Henry wrote:Bonnie Raitt's "I Can't Make You Love Me" was my favorite song among those included in the poll. It's powerful message of unrequited love is delivered impeccably by Raitt and has moved many others including the following who have recorded versions of this wonderful song: Prince, Bon Iver, George Michael, Bonnie Tyler, Nancy Wilson, Patti LaBelle and Adele. My guess is that those who were not fans found the song to be predictable and somewhat uninteresting. But, I was glad to see that Greg also appreciates this masterpiece.

I was one of those who put "I Can't Make You Love Me" towards the bottom of my list. Raitt's singing is wonderful, the melody is lovely and the message is touching - in fact, I have found myself humming the chorus a few times while walking down the street. But I really don't like the production. No matter how hard I try not to mind it, the production just sounds very, very corny to me and it has dated badly. But that's of course just a matter of preference/taste. It's a nice song though. I think if a female singer-songwriter performed it alongside more traditional country instruments I probably would've loved it (actually, if it was a Gillian Welch song it would probably have been towards the top of my list). But again, that's just a matter of preference...

Post by **Honorio** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:21 pm

I said it before but let me say it again: many thanks Dan (and nicolas of course) for this 90s songs poll. The presentation was superb. Now it's time to replace the old CD-mp3 for the new one with the 150 songs. I liked a lot the old list but the new one is better!

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:51 pm

Honorio wrote:
Dan wrote:Pavement | Fillmore Jive | 1994
Not a Fan: Henrik #149 , Honorio #149 , Dan #148
Hahaha, not only we agree on the things we like but even on the things we don't like.

Yes, I smiled every time I saw my name next to the name of one of the 3 guys I will meet in Dublin later this year... and I ended up smiling quite a lot.

And thanks for your kind words about the presentation, Honorio (and everyone else). Nicolas can buy me a beer in Dublin.

I don't know how to do the correlations thing in Excel, but I'll post the spreadsheet of the songs list in case anyone is interested in doing it:

Post by **Henrik** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:45 pm

Honorio wrote:
Dan wrote:Pavement | Fillmore Jive | 1994
Not a Fan: Henrik #149 , Honorio #149 , Dan #148
Hahaha, not only we agree on the things we like but even on the things we don't like.
Only one exception: Henrik and me are almost antagonistic about... Wilco ("Via Chicago" was my #23 and Henrik's #147!!!)

Interestingly, I put "Fillmore Jive" and "Via Chicago" at the bottom because of the same reason. Boring noisy guitars.

Post by **Henrik** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:10 pm

Here are the correlations spreadsheet. Comments coming in a few minutes.

Post by **Henrik** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:42 pm

Highest correlation with the overall results:

1. Harold 0.57
2. nicolas 0.55
3. Romain 0.54
4. Chris K 0.52
5. Michel 0.49

Lowest correlation with the overall results:

1. Zorg 0.01
2. Greg 0.15
3. Beefsupreme 0.16
4. Sonofsamiam & Moonbeam 0.18

Highest correlation between voters:

1. Romain & Michel 0.50
1. Chris K & Harold 0.50
3. Honorio & Dan 0.46
4. Olivier & Chris K 0.43
5. Romain & Chris K 0.41
5. Honorio & nicolas 0.41
7. Romain & Olivier 0.40
8. Romain & nicolas 0.39
8. Brad & Olivier 0.39
8. Dan & nicolas 0.39
11. Dan & Henrik 0.37
12. Listyguy & Harold 0.36
12. Olivier & Michel 0.36
12. Honorio & Henrik 0.36
15. Harold & Michel 0.35

Everyone's best and worst friend:
Sonofsamiam: Moonbeam 0.22 and VanillaFire -0.25
Miguel: Honorio 0.29 and Beefsupreme -0.16
Listyguy: Harold 0.36 and Zorg -0.26
Romain: Michel 0.5 and Greg -0.14
Henry: Listyguy 0.32 and Zorg -0.20
VanillaFire: Harold 0.32 and Moonbeam -0.30
Brad: Olivier 0.39 and Nick -0.11
Olivier: Chris K 0.43 and Greg -0.12
Chris K: Harold 0.50 and Zorg -0.12
Nassim: nicolas 0.28 and Dan & Beefsupreme -0.07
Harold: Chris K 0.50 and Moonbeam -0.12
Honorio: Dan 0.46 and VanillaFire -0.15
Greg: Henry 0.21 and Michel -0.16
Moonbeam: Henrik 0.34 and VanillaFire -0.30
Michel: Romain 0.50 and Greg -0.16
Dan: Honorio 0.46 and Zorg -0.15
Henrik: Dan 0.37 and VanillaFire -0.13
Beefsupreme: VanillaFire 0.17 and Miguel -0.16
Kingoftonga: Michel 0.31 and Moonbeam -0.06
Zorg: Sonofsamiam 0.20 and Listyguy -0.26
Nick: Harold 0.26 and Brad -0.11
nicolas: Honorio 0.41 and Zorg -0.12

Moonbeam · Post by **Moonbeam** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:50 pm

Thanks for the correlation summary, Henrik! I feared mine would be low. I suppose it's not surprising that I'm part of the most highly negative correlation.

beefsupreme · Post by **beefsupreme** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:34 am

Henrik wrote:Impeccable presentation, Dan!!! Thank you so much!

Listyguy, if you're shocked about "Smells Like Teen Spirit" winning (?) then look at the winning margin!

Other notes:
"Under the Bridge" moving up from #77 to #18 is shocking! Suddenly we are lovers and not haters. And as Honorio noted, the opposite happened to "Live Forever".

Beefsupreme is not keen on ballads. At least something that didn't come as a shock.

Ya got me! The white guy + acoustic guitar genre is one of the most difficult for me to get into. The heavy emotion conveyed in the genre usually doesn’t come off as authentic emotion to me, so “One”, “Hallelujah”, Elliott Smith, and “Disarm” didn’t score high on my list. And I hate it when the backstory of how a song was created is used to help justify a song’s greatness. The heartfelt stories behind “One”, or Clapton’s “Tears in Heaven” (from the all time poll)? – ewww! Judge the music for the music, not the backstory, imo the music sucks.

“Blue” by the Jayhawks was my favorite first time listen; great power pop, the song leaves me smiling (despite the song’s subject) & feeling nostalgic (even though it’s new to me).

I thought this was a pretty cool list overall, the correlations are pretty interesting too

Zorg · Post by **Zorg** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:30 am

Moonbeam wrote:Thanks for the correlation summary, Henrik! I feared mine would be low. I suppose it's not surprising that I'm part of the most highly negative correlation.

I'm worse!! Who woulda thunk it?

I just looked at my correlations with everyone. I'm not green with anyone!!! On top of that, I'm worst friends with Listyguy, Henry, Chris K, Dan and Nicolas. Never have I felt more unloved!

Jackson · Post by **Jackson** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:53 am

Chan Chan at 22 in this poll, Ondatropica at 21 in the EOY poll...is it fair to say that Dan and Nicolas are the most influential AMF posters?

I wasn't too keen on the top 20 here, but the 21-40 section is really great. Soon, Down By the Water, Isobel...so many pleasant surprises.

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:34 am

Zorg wrote:
Moonbeam wrote:Thanks for the correlation summary, Henrik! I feared mine would be low. I suppose it's not surprising that I'm part of the most highly negative correlation.

I'm worse!! Who woulda thunk it?

I just looked at my correlations with everyone. I'm not green with anyone!!! On top of that, I'm worst friends with Listyguy, Henry, Chris K, Dan and Nicolas. Never have I felt more unloved!

I am very happy that we are so different. This means that you may potentially broaden my taste more than others. It's not hate or disdain, but diversity. It's all good.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:25 pm

Zorg wrote:I just looked at my correlations with everyone. I'm not green with anyone!!! On top of that, I'm worst friends with Listyguy, Henry, Chris K, Dan and Nicolas. Never have I felt more unloved!

No need to feel unloved. It just means you're the most unique listmaker around here, like Henry said. I don't think of you as a "worst" friend at all!

Post by **Henrik** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:36 pm

Dan wrote:
Zorg wrote:I just looked at my correlations with everyone. I'm not green with anyone!!! On top of that, I'm worst friends with Listyguy, Henry, Chris K, Dan and Nicolas. Never have I felt more unloved!
No need to feel unloved. It just means you're the most unique listmaker around here, like Henry said. I don't think of you as a "worst" friend at all!

Yes, sorry for that choice of word. As shown in your song list special thread, there's a lot of love and admiration for your lists, Zorg.

Nassim · Post by **Nassim** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:55 am

I'm surprised by the correlation too, highest correlation with nicolas seems unlikely ! Lowest with beefsupreme too, though his low votes for Elliott Smith probably had a big impact.

I'm happy to see my favorite song ever in the top 10, it's barely in the top 200 of the decade in the AM3000 so I hope critics will slowly recognize it as a true classic.

Isobel over Joga, It's oh So Quiet and especially Hyper-Ballad (a forum fav) was surprising too. I like all the Bjork songs that made the list, but Isobel still seems like the lesser one.

Show Me Love on the bottom 10 was to be expected, but it's a shame 'cause it's truly a freakishly fun song, and quite a "one of a kind" among the 149 others.

Dry the Rain took the same fall in the overall ranking as in my list, I grew a bit tired of it though I still find it pretty great.

I'm a bit disappointed by Daniel Johnston low ranking, when beefsupreme talked about "authentic emotion", I think this guy usually nails it, I'm not sure he is sane enough to fake anything.
Disappointed by El Scorcho ranking too (and surprised Brad doesn't like it !), it's one of my favorite sing a long song (truly, if I ever find it in a karaoke, I'll jump on the mic immediately !)

I think I voted for "Here's where the story ends" with "Skins & Bones" in mind so I probably would have put it about 20 places lower

I'm not as big on Hallelujah as most people here (though it's fair to say, as VanillaFire pointed it out, that it might be Hollywood who kinda ruined it for me). That being said, the only stand out timeless track in this album for me is Grace.

And I can't understand how someone can dislike Fillmore Jive, it has to be one the most beautiful, epic and intense songs of all-time. My 2 favorite syllables of the decade are the "Why" in Sabotage and the last "Boy" on this one.