Album of the Month: January 2020

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Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:02 pm

I'm going to explain the concept here but the actual voting process is simple and you can skip to the bottom of this post if you don't care about the purpose and methodology.



Concept:
I've had this idea in the back of my head for a few days and figured I'd try it out; it will involve listening to a large volume of new music each month, which is something I've been wanting to do and figure plenty of others here might be doing already, and I figure we could use an album-focused game kind of like the weekly song charts throughout the year.

Each month, I will take the top ten albums of the previous month from the MCCh released on the 15th (so late month releases can be featured); you will not need to rank them all, but how I plan to process voting will highly favor those who have heard more. Though it is late, I figure I might as well do January so I can cover all of 2020. (I also might do a bonus round every once in a while to focus on those albums which slipped through the cracks and ended up being more relevant than their MCCH position suggested)

The votes will be handled with a weird preferential ballot system I've been meaning to implement more:
1. Only your first place vote counts initially
2. The remaining albums with the least amount of votes are eliminated; those who voted for these eliminated albums have their vote changed to their next highest remaining album
3. Repeat this process until one album has the majority of votes; this album will be the album of the month
4. Repeat this entire process, removing the albums which have already been placed. Eventually, this will result in all ten albums being ranked.

If you have not voted for all of the albums, your vote only begins to count once all of those albums have been eliminated from the current cycle; as in, if you have not heard one album but it also gets immediately eliminated, your vote will then be brought in. This addition will be processed after those albums are eliminated but before any others, in case these additional votes would save an otherwise eliminated album (This part is complex but the other option is to only count votes from those who have listened to all ten albums, and I don't want to be exclusionary - in the end, I'm the only one here who has to worry about these details, I'm just providing them so people can know what I'm doing)

The idea behind using such a complicated system is it favors actual favorites while also providing enough data to meaningfully rank everything being discussed (each round essentially ends up in a one-on-one match between the two strongest)








So, to quickly summarize, try to listen to all of the below albums and rank all that you have listened to; the deadline is April 14th at midnight (which will also be the deadline for February once it goes up on March 15)

January Albums:
Bonny Light Horseman - Bonny Light Horseman
Dan Deacon - Mystic Familiar
Destroyer - Have We Met
Bill Fay - Countless Branches
Georgia - Seeking Thrills
J Hus - Big Conspiracy
Mac Miller - Circles
SLØTFACE - Sorry for the Late Reply
Torres - Silver Tongue
Ben Watt - Storm Damage

If there appear to be any glaring omissions from January 2020, please share; I will not remove anything from those listed above (unless I messed and they're from the next month), but I may add more if I'm told quickly enough (this system should work with more than 10)

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by Schüttelbirne » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:02 pm

8/10

Bonny Light Horseman - Bonny Light Horseman

7/10

Mac Miller - Circles
Destroyer - Have We Met
J Hus - Big Conspiracy

6/10

Bill Fay - Countless Branches
Dan Deacon - Mystic Familiar

5/10

SLØTFACE - Sorry for the Late Reply
Ben Watt - Storm Damage

4/10

Georgia - Seeking Thrills
Torres - Silver Tongue

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by mileswide » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:50 pm

I like the sound of this and I'll take part in earnest once I've heard all the 10 (6 more to go!) From what I understand, voting system is essentially Alternative Vote/Single Transferable Vote
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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by Holden » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:23 pm

mileswide wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:50 pm
I like the sound of this and I'll take part in earnest once I've heard all the 10 (6 more to go!) From what I understand, voting system is essentially Alternative Vote/Single Transferable Vote
I think it varies just a little in that instead of eliminating the last place candidate, it eliminates all non-first place candidates.
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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by mileswide » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:57 pm

Holden wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:23 pm

I think it varies just a little in that instead of eliminating the last place candidate, it eliminates all non-first place candidates.
You've got a point, that's a considerable difference, I must not have read the bit about all entries lower than 1st place! Thanks Holden, I fully get it now :)
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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:11 pm

I think that's the same thing? I may not have explained it well. Only the top choice will be counted, but everything tied for last will be eliminated (there will be ties here due to both the number of options and small voting pool). The main thing will be then repeating that to determine the lower rankings instead of only finding the winner.

I will likely make a more complicated tiebreaker for ties past the first round (in case we get a 4-3-3 split because I think it might be upsetting to just give the whole thing to the 4; I might check which of the tied would do better with the other eliminated)

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:56 am

Here's my vote

Dan Deacon - Mystic Familiar
Georgia - Seeking Thrills
J Hus - Big Conspiracy
Bonny Light Horseman - Bonny Light Horseman
Destroyer - Have We Met
Torres - Silver Tongue
Bill Fay - Countless Branches
SLØTFACE - Sorry for the Late Reply
Mac Miller - Circles
Ben Watt - Storm Damage

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by mileswide » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:02 pm

BleuPanda wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:11 pm
I think that's the same thing? I may not have explained it well.
You explained it perfectly, just me being dim. Here's my ordering of the original 10!

SLØTFACE - Sorry for the Late Reply [Highlight: Luminous]
Dan Deacon - Mystic Familiar [Highlight: My Friend]
Georgia - Seeking Thrills [Highlight: Ray Guns]
J Hus - Big Conspiracy [Highlight: No Denying]
TORRES - Silver Tongue [Highlight: Silver Tongue]
Ben Watt - Storm Damage [Highlight: Irene]
Bill Fay - Countless Branches [Highlight: Love Will Remain]
Mac Miller - Circles [Highlight: Blue World]
Bonny Light Horseman [Highlight: Mountain Rain]
Destroyer - Have We Met [Highlight: Have We Met]

And my three current favourites from January:
Moon Hooch - Life on Other Planets [Highlight: They're Already Here]
Les Amazones d'Afrique - Amazones Power [Highlight: Smooth]
Alexandra Savior - The Archer [Highlight: Can't Help Myself]
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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:31 pm

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by spiritualized » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:04 pm

I'll play, ranked in order.

SLØTFACE - Sorry for the Late Reply (9/10) - definitely album of the month so far. The Norwegian punk pop band is so immediate that I fell for their sophomore album in an instant. Great singing, hooks by the shovel, nice attitude. I really, really like it.
Dan Deacon - Mystic Familiar - (8/10) = really pleasantly surprised by Dan Deacon. I enjoyed America a while ago, but this is better. The music is terrific, uplifting. His voice is an eerie reminder of Mercury Rev's Jonathan Donahue, don't you think ?

Mac Miller - Circles (7/10)
Torres - Silver Tongue (6/10)
Bill Fay - Countless Branches (6/10)
Bonny Light Horseman - Bonny Light Horseman - (6/10)
Ben Watt - Storm Damage (6/10)
J Hus - Big Conspiracy (5/10)
Destroyer - Have We Met (5/10)
Georgia - Seeking Thrills (4/10)
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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by Holden » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:58 pm

01 | Dan Deacon - Mystic Familiar
02 | Georgia - Seeking Thrills
03 | Bonny Light Horseman - Bonny Light Horseman
04 | Destroyer - Have We Met
05 | Mac Miller - Circles
06 | J Hus - Big Conspiracy
07 | Torres - Silver Tongue
08 | Bill Fay - Countless Branches
09 | Ben Watt - Storm Damage
10 | Sløtface - Sorry For the Late Reply

Aside from the bottom two, which disappointed me despite high expectations, a pretty good crop of albums!
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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by Schüttelbirne » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:41 pm

BleuPanda wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:02 pm

If there appear to be any glaring omissions from January 2020, please share; I will not remove anything from those listed above (unless I messed and they're from the next month), but I may add more if I'm told quickly enough (this system should work with more than 10)
Keeley Forsyth's Debris, a January release, has been added to the Mega Critic Chart in the last update. I guess there weren't enough reviews before.

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:32 am

Two weeks left

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by DaveC » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:06 am

1. Bonny Light Horseman - Bonny Light Horseman
2. Dan Deacon - Mystic Familiar
3. Georgia - Seeking Thrills
4. SLØTFACE - Sorry for the Late Reply
5. Torres - Silver Tongue
6. Bill Fay - Countless Branches
7. J Hus - Big Conspiracy
8. Destroyer - Have We Met
9. Mac Miller - Circles
10. Ben Watt - Storm Damage

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:54 pm

1 week left

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:57 pm

3ish days to get your vote in

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:46 pm

Last day to vote; even if you haven't heard all 10, your vote could still be helpful.

With such low numbers, I'll definitely have to implement a tiebreaker system - most likely, in case of a tie, average rank will be used

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:11 pm

This poll is officially closed (it takes some time to process results this way, so I need to make sure no one votes after the deadline as I would have to start over from the beginning)

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by BleuPanda » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:37 pm

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how well this system works with such low vote numbers. We had six participants:
BleuPanda
DaveC
Holden
mileswide
Schuttelbirne
spiritualized

I think luckily for such low numbers, the final results and average rank line up almost perfectly; only #6 and #7 flipped. The tiebreaker was determined at each individual level. This won't necessarily always be so similar, since an album must receive at least one first place vote to have a chance at moving forward in the current round.



1st Place: Dan Deacon - Mystic Familiar
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Average Rank: 2.33
#1 Voters: BleuPanda, Holden

First round process:
Bonny Light Horseman, Dan Deacon, and SLØTFACE tied with 2 votes each; SLØTFACE was eliminated due to having lowest average rank of 5.17. mileswide and spiritualized switched their votes from SLØTFACE to Dan Deacon, giving Mystic Familiar a 4-2 win

2nd Place: Bonny Light Horseman - Bonny Light Horseman
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Average Rank: 4.00
#1 Voters: DaveC, Schuttelbirne

Second round process:
Bonny Light Horseman, Georgia, and SLØTFACE received 2 votes each; SLØTFACE was eliminated due to lowest average of 4.5 (out of the 9 remaining albums). mileswide switched to Georgia while spritualized switched to Bonny Light Horseman. Bonny Light Horseman won due to a tiebreaking average of 3.33 to 3.83

3rd Place: Georgia - Seeking Thrills
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Average Rank: 4.83

Third round process:
Georgia received three votes, SLØTFACE received 2, Mac Miller received 1; Mac Miller was eliminated, so Schuttelbirne's vote moved to SLØTFACE. Tied with three votes, Georgia wins with a tiebreaking average of 3.33 to 3.83

4th Place: SLØTFACE - Sorry for the Late Reply
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Average Rank: 5.17
#1 Voters: mileswide, spiritualized

Fourth Round Process:
SLØTFACE received three votes while Mac Miller, J Hus, and Destroyer received one vote each. Destroyer was eliminated through the tiebreaker, and Holden's vote changed to Mac Miller. J Hus was eliminated due to having less votes, and BleuPanda's vote changed to SLØTFACE, giving it a 4-2 victory over Mac Miller

5th Place: J Hus - Big Conspiracy
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Average Rank: 5.33

Fifth round process:
J Hus and Mac Miller received two first place votes while Destroyer and Torres received 1 each. Destroyer was eliminated through the tiebreaker and Holden's vote changed to Mac Miller. Torres was eliminated due to still only having one vote, so DaveC's vote changed to J Hus. J Hus won with the tiebreaking average of 2.67 compared to 3.17

6th Place: Torres - Silver Tongue
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Average Rank: 6.17

Sixth round process:
Mac Miller, Destroyer, and Torres each received 2 votes; Destroyer was eliminated due to a tiebreaker. BleuPanda switched their vote to Torres while Holden switched to Mac Miller. Torres won with a tiebreaker of 2.33 to 2.67.

7th Place: Mac Miller - Circles
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Average Rank: 6.00

Seventh round process:
Mac Miller and Destroyer each received 2 votes, Ben Watt and Bill Fay received one each. Ben Watt was eliminated and mileswide's vote changed to Bill Fay. Destroyer was eliminated due to the tiebreaker. BleuPanda changed to Bill Fay while Holden switched to Mac Miller. Mac Miller and Bill Fay were tied with a 2.17 average in the current round, so I went back to the initial tiebreaker to determine Mac Miller's Circles as the winner

8th Place: Bill Fay - Countless Branches
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Average Rank: 6.33

Eighth round process:
Destroyer had three votes, Bill Fay had two votes, Ben Watt had one; Ben Watt was eliminated and mileswide switched to Bill Fay. Bill Fay won with a tiebreaking average of 1.67 to 1.83

9th Place: Destroyer - Have We Met
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Average Rank: 6.50

10th Place: Ben Watt - Storm Damage
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Average Rank: 8.33

Final round process:
Destroyer won 4-2

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Re: Album of the Month: January 2020

Post by DaveC » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:39 pm

Thanks BleuPanda. For me those first four really stood out, so the result is pleasing.

I just can't imagine the critics putting our 9th & 10th ranked albums into their year end lists.

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