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AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:01 am

After a glorious celebration of the 1980s in 2019, I am now ready to present the results of the song poll. A total of 300 songs qualified for the final round. I will present the top 200, and then provide the entire list at the end.

A huge thank you to our 38 voters, which is up from 31 from the last time we did the 80s poll, and up from the most recent decade polls as well. Woo hoo!

Andre
andyd1010
babydoll
Bang Jan
bonnielaurel
Brad
BryanBehar
Chris K.
ColdButterfly
Craig
CupOfDreams
Dan
DaveC
Dexter
Elder
FrankLotion
Fred
Henrik
Henry
Hymie
Listyguy
Live in Phoenix
maverick470
mileswide
Moonbeam
Myself
Nassim
Neil
nicolas
ordinaryperson
phil
Rob
Romain
rumpdoll
SL3
sonofsamiam
StevieFan13
The_Claw

The list:

1. Prince and the Revolution - When Doves Cry
2. The Smiths - There Is a Light That Never Goes Out
3. Michael Jackson - Billie Jean
4. Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart
5. The Smiths - How Soon Is Now?
6. Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill
7. The Cure - Just Like Heaven
8. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain
9. Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
10. New Order - Blue Monday

11. The Cure - A Forest
12. Guns N' Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine
13. Soft Cell - Tainted Love
14. U2 - Sunday Bloody Sunday
15. Madonna - Like a Prayer
16. Echo and the Bunnymen - The Killing Moon
17. David Bowie - Ashes to Ashes
18. Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
19. Bob Marley and the Wailers - Redemption Song
20. The La's - There She Goes

21. Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
22. Tracy Chapman - Fast Car
23. Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
24. Prince - Little Red Corvette
25. U2 - New Year's Day
26. Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five - The Message
27. Eurythmics - Here Comes the Rain Again
28. The Cure - In Between Days
29. Queen - Under Pressure
30. The Cure - Lovesong

31. Prince and the Revolution - Kiss
32. Prince and the Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
33. New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle
34. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - The Mercy Seat
35. The Smiths - This Charming Man
36. Nirvana - About a Girl
37. The Cure - Close to Me
38. U2 - With or Without You
39. Chris Isaak - Wicked Game
40. The Church - Under the Milky Way

41. R.E.M. - Radio Free Europe
42. Michael Jackson - Beat It
43. Dexys Midnight Runners - Come On Eileen
44. Prince - Sign 'O' the Times
45. The Police - Every Breath You Take
46. Crowded House - Don't Dream It's Over
47. Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time
48. R.E.M. - It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
49. Pixies - Debaser
50. Public Enemy - Fight the Power

51. Prince - 1999
52. Bruce Springsteen - The River
53. Blondie - Call Me
54. Violent Femmes - Blister in the Sun
55. Pixies - Monkey Gone to Heaven
56. The Human League - Don't You Want Me
57. The Smiths - Bigmouth Strikes Again
58. The Jam - Going Underground
59. The Specials - Ghost Town
60. Simple Minds - Don't You (Forget About Me)

61. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love
62. Kate Bush - Cloudbusting
63. The Cure - Pictures of You
64. Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World
65. Mot÷rhead - Ace of Spades
66. A-ha - Take On Me
67. Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus
68. The Jam - That's Entertainment
69. Julee Cruise - Falling
70. Suzanne Vega - Luka

71. Bruce Springsteen - Dancing in the Dark
72. Pixies - Here Comes Your Man
73. R.E.M. - The One I Love
74. Madonna - Into the Groove
75. Pet Shop Boys - West End Girls
76. U2 - Where the Streets Have No Name
77. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Just Like Honey
78. The Cure - Lullaby
79. The Pogues - Fairytale of New York
80. Tom Waits - Downtown Train

81. Joy Division - Atmosphere
82. New Order - True Faith
83. U2 - Pride (In the Name of Love)
84. Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again
85. Elvis Costello and The Attractions - I Want You
86. Billy Bragg - A New England
87. Don Henley - The Boys of Summer
88. Bruce Springsteen - I'm on Fire
89. Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
90. Roxy Music - More Than This

91. Talking Heads - The Great Curve
92. The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go
93. David Bowie - Let's Dance
94. Kraftwerk - Computer Love
95. The Smiths - What Difference Does It Make?
96. The Sugarcubes - Birthday
97. The Jam - Town Called Malice
98. Cocteau Twins - Lorelei
99. Metallica - One
100. R.E.M. - So. Central Rain (I'm Sorry)

101. The Waterboys - The Whole of the Moon
102. Prince and the Revolution - Raspberry Beret
103. The Clash - Rock the Casbah
104. Prince - The Cross
105. The Stone Roses - Fools Gold
106. Michael Jackson - Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
107. The Stranglers - Golden Brown
108. The Replacements - I Will Dare
109. Paul Simon - Graceland
110. Bob Marley and the Wailers - Could You Be Loved

111. Neil Young - Rockin' in the Free World
112. Bruce Springsteen - Atlantic City
113. Cyndi Lauper - Girls Just Want to Have Fun
114. Talking Heads - Burning Down the House
115. Michael Jackson - Smooth Criminal
116. The Stone Roses - I Am the Resurrection
117. Kate Bush - This Woman's Work
118. Tears for Fears - Mad World
119. Go-Go's - Our Lips Are Sealed
120. The Smiths - The Boy with the Thorn in His Side

121. AC/DC - Back in Black
122. Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle
123. The Smiths - William, It Was Really Nothing
124. Phil Collins - In the Air Tonight
125. New Order - Age of Consent
126. U2 - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
127. Joe Jackson - Steppin' Out
128. Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Relax
129. Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer
130. The The - This Is the Day

131. Morrissey - Everyday Is Like Sunday
132. Prince - When You Were Mine
133. R.E.M. - Orange Crush
134. R.E.M. - Fall on Me
135. The Stone Roses - I Wanna Be Adored
136. Laurie Anderson - O Superman
137. This Mortal Coil - Song to the Siren
138. Talking Heads - This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)
139. The Primitives - Crash
140. David Bowie - Modern Love

141. Metallica - Master of Puppets
142. Public Enemy - Bring the Noise
143. Run-D.M.C. - Walk This Way
144. Talking Heads - Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)
145. Prince - Controversy
146. Neneh Cherry - Buffalo Stance
147. Talk Talk - It's My Life
148. Elvis Costello - Beyond Belief
149. Modern English - I Melt with You
150. Michael Jackson - Thriller

151. New Order - Temptation
152. Pretenders - Back on the Chain Gang
153. Mission of Burma - That's When I Reach for My Revolver
154. Faith No More - Epic
155. U2 - Bad
156. Tom Waits - Jockey Full of Bourbon
157. The Replacements - Bastards of Young
158. David Sylvian and Ryuichi Sakamoto - Forbidden Colours
159. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton
160. Melle Mel - White Lines (Don't Don't Do It)

161. Hⁿsker Dⁿ - Pink Turns to Blue
162. Leonard Cohen - Hallelujah
163. Fugazi - Waiting Room
164. INXS - Need You Tonight
165. Peter Gabriel - Games Without Frontiers
166. Madonna - Like a Virgin
167. Tears for Fears - Shout
168. Blondie - Rapture
169. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
170. XTC - Dear God

171. Devo - Whip It
172. Duran Duran - Hungry Like the Wolf
173. Madonna - Live to Tell
174. New Order - Ceremony
175. The Smiths - Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
176. Talking Heads - Road to Nowhere
177. Talk Talk - The Rainbow
178. ABBA - The Winner Takes It All
179. Toto - Africa
180. U2 - I Will Follow

181. The Smiths - Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
182. Split Enz - I Got You
183. Pixies - Gigantic
184. Talk Talk - Life's What You Make It
185. Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing
186. Grace Jones - I've Seen That Face Before (Libertango)
187. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.
188. Tom Petty - Free Fallin'
189. Madonna - Borderline
190. Stevie Wonder - Master Blaster (Jammin')

191. Prince and the Revolution - Sometimes It Snows in April
192. Rick James - Super Freak
193. AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long
194. Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes
195. Depeche Mode - Just Can't Get Enough
196. The Smiths - Panic
197. Paul Simon - You Can Call Me Al
198. Joan Jett and The Blackhearts - I Love Rock 'n Roll
199. Joy Division - Decades
200. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full

201. Elvis Costello - Shipbuilding
202. The Cure - The Love Cats
203. The Smiths - I Know It's Over
204. Midnight Oil - Beds Are Burning
205. The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up
206. Pet Shop Boys - It's a Sin
207. Paul Simon - Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes
208. Men at Work - Down Under
209. The Pogues - And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda
210. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead (Take Me Back To Dear Old Blighty)

211. Tom Tom Club - Genius of Love
212. Sonic Youth - Schizophrenia
213. Sade - Smooth Operator
214. Tom Waits - Time
215. Public Enemy - Don't Believe the Hype
216. The Police - Don't Stand So Close to Me
217. Dexys Midnight Runners - Geno
218. Nine Inch Nails - Head Like a Hole
219. Queen - Another One Bites the Dust
220. INXS - Never Tear Us Apart

221. Rush - Tom Sawyer
222. Guns N' Roses - Paradise City
223. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Tupelo
224. Public Enemy - Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
225. Bangles - Walk Like an Egyptian
226. Dinosaur Jr. - Freak Scene
227. Wipers - Youth of America
228. Stevie Nicks - Edge of Seventeen (Just Like the White Winged Dove)
229. Goran Bregovic - Ederlezi
230. Iron Maiden - Hallowed Be Thy Name

231. Van Halen - Jump
232. Wham! - Careless Whisper
233. Tears for Fears - Head Over Heels
234. My Bloody Valentine - You Made Me Realise
235. The Replacements - Unsatisfied
236. Talk Talk - Living in Another World
237. R.E.M. - Talk About the Passion
238. Public Enemy - Rebel Without a Pause
239. Bangles - Manic Monday
240. Soul II Soul - Back to Life (However Do You Want Me)

241. N.W.A - F*** Tha Police
242. The Smiths - Girlfriend in a Coma
243. The Fall - The Classical
244. Frank Sinatra - (Theme from) New York, New York
245. Diana Ross - I'm Coming Out
246. Squeeze - Tempted
247. Beastie Boys - No Sleep Till Brooklyn
248. Morrissey - Suedehead
249. The Police - Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic
250. Tina Turner - What's Love Got to Do with It

251. De La Soul - Me Myself and I
252. Eric B. & Rakim - Follow the Leader
253. George Clinton - Atomic Dog
254. Pixies - Wave of Mutilation
255. Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation
256. Run-D.M.C. - It's Tricky
257. Dire Straits - Money for Nothing
258. Pixies - Hey
259. Cameo - Word Up!
260. Katrina and The Waves - Walking on Sunshine

261. Beastie Boys - (You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!)
262. The Psychedelic Furs - Pretty in Pink
263. The Cure - Charlotte Sometimes
264. The Cult - She Sells Sanctuary
265. Bon Jovi - Livin' on a Prayer
266. Daryl Hall & John Oates - I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)
267. ABBA - The Day Before You Came
268. Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms
269. Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force - Planet Rock
270. Beastie Boys - Shake Your Rump

271. The Proclaimers - I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)
272. Black Flag - Rise Above
273. The B-52's - Roam
274. Violent Femmes - Add It Up
275. Run-D.M.C. - It's Like That
276. Depeche Mode - Stripped
277. Tom Petty - I Won't Back Down
278. Bryan Adams - Summer of '69
279. Journey - Don't Stop Believin'
280. The Traveling Wilburys - Handle with Care

281. Suzanne Vega - Marlene on the Wall
282. Rush - The Spirit of Radio
283. Talking Heads - And She Was
284. Living Colour - Cult of Personality
285. David Bowie - Absolute Beginners
286. Crowded House - Better Be Home Soon
287. Crowded House - Into Temptation
288. Slayer - Raining Blood
289. Prefab Sprout - Goodbye Lucille #1
290. Michael Jackson - Man in the Mirror

291. Enya - Orinoco Flow (Sail Away)
292. Pet Shop Boys - Left to My Own Devices
293. U2 - Desire
294. Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers - Don't Come Around Here No More
295. Bruce Springsteen - Glory Days
296. Tom Petty - Runnin' Down a Dream
297. Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock - It Takes Two
298. The Traveling Wilburys - End of the Line
299. John Mellencamp - Pink Houses
300. Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar on Me

Full results here.
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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by mileswide » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:07 am

Ooh..which song is gonna be the best AROUND? Not that one as far as this list's concerned!
If I could hold on to just one thought...

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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:14 am

The presentation of the top 200 will consist of the following:

1. Points: I had to abandon the SRS scoring system I planned, because it turns out it doesn't yield a solution when every item plays every other item exactly once, as I had intended! As such, I have used the scoring system that is present in the Album Ranker program. In essence, a big 300 x 300 matrix was created. Based on the ranked lists, I could then fill each row of the matrix with the number of wins against the other songs. In other words, if the song in row 1 in the matrix finished higher than the song in row 2 on 10 lists, the entry in the 1st row and 2nd column was set to 10. This Win/Loss matrix was then raised to the 8th power (as in the Album Ranking program), and the ratio of this matrix over its transpose determined the final points, after applying the natural logarithm. The effect of this is that each song is given credit not just for the songs it beats, but the songs that those songs beat, etc. The point system produces something close to a bell-shaped curve.

2. W/L%: The overall win/loss percentage for the song. The final ranking lines up fairly closely to the rank of the W/L records - there are a few instances where songs might finish a little higher than others with higher W/L records due to facing tougher competition.

3. Rank in the year poll
4. AM rank for the 1980s
5. Rank in the previous 1980s poll from 2013

6. Polarization index: For each ballot, I could calculate the corresponding percentiles for each song. The polarization index is the standard deviation of these percentiles. The higher the value, the more polarizing the song is among our voters.

7. Lovers: A list of the users who placed the song among the top 10% on their ballot. If no one did so, the highest vote (by percentile).

8. Haters: A list of the users who placed the song among the bottom 10% on their ballot. If no one did so, the lowest vote (by percentile).

9. Deciles: A graph of the deciles for the song - this gives a visual representation of the polarization. The users mentioned in the lovers section would appear in the top decile and the users mentioned in the haters section would appear in the bottom decile.

I have long loved seeing presentations with quotes or interesting factoids, but unfortunately I won't have the time to do that. As such, feel free to comment as the rollout progresses with your own feelings and/or fun facts about these!

Finally, I got a request to share the code I have used to come up with this. I will do so at the end so as not to give away any results.
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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:15 am

[200] Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full

Points: -0.264, W/L Pct: 43.8%

Finished #19 in the 1987 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 61, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 28.85

Cause I'm righteous:

BryanBehar (11/300)

I used to be a stick-up kid:

DaveC (293/300)
Listyguy (292/300)
Henrik (286/300)
Henry (281/300)
bonnielaurel (271/300)

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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:16 am

[199] Joy Division - Decades

Points: -0.262, W/L Pct: 43.76%

Finished #23 in the 1980 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 1397, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 31.32

The door for our wanderings:

Bang Jan (9/300)
DaveC (12/300)
Myself (13/300)
sonofsamiam (18/300)

The doors of Hell's darker chamber:

andyd1010 (299/300)
bonnielaurel (298/300)
maverick470 (244/246)
Neil (294/300)
Dan (279/300)
The_Claw (274/300)

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[198] Joan Jett and The Blackhearts - I Love Rock 'n Roll

Points: -0.261, W/L Pct: 43.97%

Finished #17 in the 1981 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 66, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 28.11

Put another dime in the jukebox, baby:

Hymie (26/300)

Cause it's all the same:

Nassim (299/300)
sonofsamiam (290/300)
Bang Jan (287/300)
FrankLotion (186/198)
babydoll (276/300)

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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:18 am

[197] Paul Simon - You Can Call Me Al

Points: -0.258, W/L Pct: 43.91%

Finished #8 in the 1986 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 498, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: 70

Polarization Index: 26.59

I can be your long lost pal:

nicolas (29/300)

You know, I don't find this stuff amusing anymore:

CupOfDreams (296/300)
Moonbeam (295/300)
Bang Jan (276/300)
SL3 (272/300)
babydoll (271/300)
Neil (270/300)

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[196] The Smiths - Panic

Points: -0.256, W/L Pct: 44.05%

Finished #15 in the 1986 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 158, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 26.88

Hopes may rise on the grasmere:

andyd1010 (10/300)

It says nothing to me about my life:

bonnielaurel (289/300)
rumpdoll (280/292)
Elder (286/300)
Myself (278/300)

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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:22 am

[195] Depeche Mode - Just Can't Get Enough

Points: -0.240, W/L Pct: 44.42%

Finished #30 in the 1981 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 174, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 25.36

It's getting hotter, it's a burning love:

Hymie (10/300)
StevieFan13 (18/249)
Romain (23/300)

I go out of my head:

Rob (293/300)
babydoll (283/300)

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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:23 am

[194] Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes

Points: -0.238, W/L Pct: 44.48%

Finished #29 in the 1981 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 260, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 28.62

She'll turn her music on you:

Hymie (27/300)

Greta Garbo stand off sighs:

Brad (298/300)
sonofsamiam (288/300)
phil (284/300)
Bang Jan (283/300)
CupOfDreams (276/300)

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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:25 am

[193] AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long

Points: -0.236, W/L Pct: 44.38%

Finished #12 in the 1980 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 77, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: 113

Polarization Index: 35.77

The best damn woman I had ever seen:

Hymie (7/300)
SL3 (14/300)
Henry (18/300)
Listyguy (19/300)

My mind was aching:

Moonbeam (300/300)
sonofsamiam (300/300)
phil (299/300)
babydoll (298/300)
Bang Jan (297/300)
DaveC (290/300)
Elder (284/300)
Nassim (270/300)
The_Claw (270/300)

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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:26 am

[192] Rick James - Super Freak

Points: -0.235, W/L Pct: 44.59%

Finished #22 in the 1981 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 136, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 24.88

She says that I'm her all time favorite:

Hymie (8/300)

The kind you don't take home to mother:

maverick470 (236/246)
DaveC (282/300)
Brad (275/300)

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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 am

[191] Prince and the Revolution - Sometimes It Snows in April

Points: -0.232, W/L Pct: 44.45%

Finished #18 in the 1986 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 1218, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: 125

Polarization Index: 31.32

A time for lovers holding hands in the rain:

sonofsamiam (5/300)
Elder (9/300)
Romain (17/300)

The fools he left here:

DaveC (295/300)
Rob (290/300)
SL3 (278/300)
Live in Phoenix (277/300)
Neil (276/300)
andyd1010 (270/300)

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Post by Listyguy » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:28 am

Individual love/hate lyrics for every song? You're a madman! (But I love it)

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Post by DaveC » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:49 am

AC/DC polarising: Well known fact. 'Decades' polarising: Surprise.

This is rather awesome Moonbeam. Goodness knows how much effort you put into those love/hate lyric snips.

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Holden » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:55 am

What is meant by the Album Ranker Program?
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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Sweepstakes Ron » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:31 am

Holden wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:55 am
What is meant by the Album Ranker Program?
Only the most vital piece of software for any user of this forum! https://mega.nz/#!HwRGFD4D!jB77rCviVj3Q ... NWRNjUeQU0

Moonbeam can explain in more detail, but basically, it allows you to enter a list of albums or songs and then pits them in matchups to aggregate to a total rank.
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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by andyd1010 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:57 am

The AC/DC graph is hilarious. One person in the middle two sections.

I also never thought when I joined this forum that I would be by far the biggest fan of a Smiths song! I used to hate The Smiths, but that song is so good. What really got me into it was an episode of Black Mirror called Hang the DJ, named after a lyric from the song, and featuring the song.

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:00 am

andyd1010 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:57 am
The AC/DC graph is hilarious. One person in the middle two sections.

I also never thought when I joined this forum that I would be by far the biggest fan of a Smiths song! I used to hate The Smiths, but that song is so good. What really got me into it was an episode of Black Mirror called Hang the DJ, named after a lyric from the song, and featuring the song.
Love that show, and I love the song! Just tight competition.

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:00 am

Listyguy wrote:
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Individual love/hate lyrics for every song? You're a madman! (But I love it)
I'm having to really stretch to make some fit, but it's worth it!

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:02 am

Sweepstakes Ron wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:31 am
Holden wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:55 am
What is meant by the Album Ranker Program?
Only the most vital piece of software for any user of this forum! https://mega.nz/#!HwRGFD4D!jB77rCviVj3Q ... NWRNjUeQU0

Moonbeam can explain in more detail, but basically, it allows you to enter a list of albums or songs and then pits them in matchups to aggregate to a total rank.
Yep - it is ranking software for albums or songs (or anything else, really) that is based upon win/loss records from 1-on-1 comparisons. There should be a readme in that folder with details.

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Henry » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:48 am

Fantastic presentation Moonbeam!!

I am already looking forward to the next poll you roll out :-)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by slick » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:12 am

This is absolutely fantastic!!! Sorry, I missed out on the vote. The past 5 or 6 weeks have been ridiculously busy. Looking forward to the rest of the results.

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:49 am

[190] Stevie Wonder - Master Blaster (Jammin')

Points: -0.230, W/L Pct: 44.62%

Finished #25 in the 1980 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 307, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 28.74

You're moving in the positive:

Nassim (8/300)
Hymie (19/300)
bonnielaurel (24/300)

They want us to join their fighting:

Chris K (295/300)
StevieFan13 (244/249)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:50 am

[189] Madonna - Borderline

Points: -0.225, W/L Pct: 44.78%

Finished #16 in the 1983 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 119, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 25.76

Cause you got the best of me:

Neil (2/300)
Henry (22/300)

Feels like I'm going to lose my mind:

Henrik (282/300)
Rob (280/300)
Romain (272/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:51 am

[188] Tom Petty - Free Fallin'

Points: -0.219, W/L Pct: 44.79%

Finished #9 in the 1989 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 120, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: 111

Polarization Index: 31.64

I wanna write her name in the sky:

maverick470 (8/246)
Listyguy (10/300)
Rob (29/300)

I'm a bad boy, 'cause I don't even miss her:

babydoll (297/300)
sonofsamiam (295/300)
Bang Jan (294/300)
Nassim (292/300)
Myself (284/300)
Romain (280/300)
DaveC (278/300)
Henrik (277/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:51 am

[187] Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A.

Points: -0.218, W/L Pct: 44.83%

Finished #10 in the 1984 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 22, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 30.05

I'm a cool rocking Daddy in the U.S.A.:

Dexter (20/300)
nicolas (20/300)
andyd1010 (26/300)

The first kick I took was when I hit the ground:

CupOfDreams (291/300)
ordinaryperson (160/169)
mileswide (284/300)
StevieFan13 (232/249)
Nassim (277/300)
Moonbeam (270/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:52 am

[186] Grace Jones - I've Seen That Face Before (Libertango)

Points: -0.203, W/L Pct: 45.25%

Finished #23 in the 1981 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 896, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 30.72

Sans regret, sans mélo:

SL3 (13/300)
Elder (19/300)
Moonbeam (27/300)

Toi aussi, tu détestes la vie?:

Cold Butterfly (30/30)
Listyguy (299/300)
Neil (295/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:53 am

[185] Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing

Points: -0.199, W/L Pct: 45.31%

Finished #15 in the 1982 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 41, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: 65

Polarization Index: 28.7

Helps to relieve my mind:

Dexter (17/300)
bonnielaurel (19/300)
andyd1010 (28/300)

I think I'm capsizin':

Nassim (296/300)
Moonbeam (289/300)
Bang Jan (278/300)
Myself (274/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:54 am

[184] Talk Talk - Life's What You Make It

Points: -0.197, W/L Pct: 45.45%

Finished #27 in the 1985 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 416, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 25.44

Celebrate it, anticipate it:

Andre (13/300)
Listyguy (13/300)
rumpdoll (21/292)

Don't you hate it?:

Neil (285/300)
phil (280/300)
Rob (278/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:54 am

[183] Pixies - Gigantic

Points: -0.194, W/L Pct: 45.46%

Finished #8 in the 1988 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 122, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: 141

Polarization Index: 28.5

A big, big love:

rumpdoll (1/292)
CupOfDreams (15/300)
Brad (22/300)

What a big black mass:

Moonbeam (293/300)
StevieFan13 (235/249)
Live in Phoenix (280/300)
bonnielaurel (278/300)
Nassim (275/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:57 am

[182] Split Enz - I Got You

Points: -0.190, W/L Pct: 45.73%

Finished #21 in the 1980 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 332, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 24.88

I got you, that's all I want:

Hymie (34/300)

Something's wrong, I feel uneasy:

nicolas (296/300)
Rob (285/300)
rumpdoll (263/292)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:58 am

[181] The Smiths - Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me

Points: -0.188, W/L Pct: 45.57%

Finished #24 in the 1987 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 860, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: 130

Polarization Index: 27.36

Real arms around me:

Moonbeam (12/300)
Bang Jan (24/300)
DaveC (28/300)
Brad (30/300)

Just another false alarm:

bonnielaurel (297/300)
Live in Phoenix (294/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by babydoll » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:59 am

Well, that was a shocker coming from StevieFan13.

"Sexual Healing" did so poorly compared to last time. :(

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:05 am

babydoll wrote:
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Well, that was a shocker coming from StevieFan13.
Haha, indeed! Maybe he should rebrand himself as StevieExceptForMasterBlasterFan13. :P
"Sexual Healing" did so poorly compared to last time. :(
I know a lot of people love this song, but it's always creeped me out for some reason.

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Romain » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:47 am

The presentation that crushes all other presentations ever created.
I hope my Prince will come in the first place :-)
Thanks Moonbeam.

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Nassim » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:32 am

Moonbeam wrote:
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This Win/Loss matrix was then raised to the 8th power (as in the Album Ranking program), and the ratio of this matrix over its transpose determined the final points, after applying the natural logarithm. The effect of this is that each song is given credit not just for the songs it beats, but the songs that those songs beat, etc. The point system produces something close to a bell-shaped curve.
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I hope my Prince will come in the first place :-)
That's bold to call him "your" Prince when it is Moonbeam who is hosting!

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Henrik » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:35 am

Nassim wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:32 am
Moonbeam wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:14 am
This Win/Loss matrix was then raised to the 8th power (as in the Album Ranking program), and the ratio of this matrix over its transpose determined the final points, after applying the natural logarithm. The effect of this is that each song is given credit not just for the songs it beats, but the songs that those songs beat, etc. The point system produces something close to a bell-shaped curve.
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I hope my Prince will come in the first place :-)
That's bold to call him "your" Prince when it is Moonbeam who is hosting!
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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Romain » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:46 am

Nassim wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:32 am

Romain wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:47 am
I hope my Prince will come in the first place :-)
That's bold to call him "your" Prince when it is Moonbeam who is hosting!

Sure, but the reference would be less obvious! :mrgreen:

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by mileswide » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:29 am

Moonbeam wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:05 am

Haha, indeed! Maybe he should rebrand himself as StevieExceptForMasterBlaster
AndIJustCalledtoSayILoveYou13Fan to make it that much catchier!
If I could hold on to just one thought...

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:00 am

[180] U2 - I Will Follow

Points: -0.186, W/L Pct: 45.80%

Finished #20 in the 1980 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 165, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 22.38

I was lost, I am found:

Hymie (3/300)
DaveC (23/300)

I was blind, I could not see:

Elder (279/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:01 am

[179] Toto - Africa

Points: -0.182, W/L Pct: 45.56%

Finished #20 in the 1982 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 318, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 30.31

I hear the drums echoing tonight:

Myself (27/300)

But she hears only whispers of some quiet conversation:

mileswide (298/300)
SL3 (298/300)
Chris K (286/300)
babydoll (282/300)
ordinaryperson (153/169)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:02 am

[178] ABBA - The Winner Takes It All

Points: -0.182, W/L Pct: 45.78%

Finished #17 in the 1980 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 151, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 27.27

I was in your arms thinking I belonged there:

bonnielaurel (2/300)
SL3 (2/300)
babydoll (28/300)

The loser has to fall:

phil (294/300)
Brad (292/300)
Listyguy (277/300)
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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:02 am

[177] Talk Talk - The Rainbow

Points: -0.181, W/L Pct: 45.75%

Finished #18 in the 1988 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: Bubbling, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: 122

Polarization Index: 30.65

Repented, changed:

Bang Jan (3/300)
sonofsamiam (3/300)

Unfound, corrupt:

Neil (292/300)
Dan (290/300)
SL3 (289/300)
nicolas (272/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:05 am

[176] Talking Heads - Road to Nowhere

Points: -0.178, W/L Pct: 45.91%

Finished #21 in the 1985 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 232, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 22.81

We're on the road to paradise:

DaveC (33/300)

But they'll make a fool of you:

SL3 (264/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:06 am

[175] The Smiths - Please, Please, Please, Let Me Get What I Want

Points: -0.176, W/L Pct: 45.79%

Finished #22 in the 1984 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 358, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 27.5

Let me get what I want this time:

CupOfDreams (12/300)
phil (17/300)
SL3 (17/300)
mileswide (20/300)

The life I've had can make a good man bad:

bonnielaurel (295/300)
The_Claw (280/300)
Live in Phoenix (274/300)
Henrik (271/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:07 am

[174] New Order - Ceremony

Points: -0.168, W/L Pct: 45.93%

Finished #15 in the 1981 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 184, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 26.01

Watching love grow, forever:

SL3 (1/300)
Moonbeam (21/300)

No mercy shown:

bonnielaurel (285/300)
Dan (277/300)
Henrik (273/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:07 am

[173] Madonna - Live to Tell

Points: -0.159, W/L Pct: 46.21%

Finished #16 in the 1986 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 285, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: 134

Polarization Index: 29.14

I know where beauty lives:

sonofsamiam (11/300)
bonnielaurel (15/300)
Live in Phoenix (17/300)
The_Claw (24/300)

Too blind to see the writing on the wall:

Nassim (297/300)
Rob (292/300)
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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:09 am

[172] Duran Duran - Hungry Like the Wolf

Points: -0.156, W/L Pct: 46.30%

Finished #24 in the 1982 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 257, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 26.28

Mouth is alive with juices like wine:

Listyguy (36/300)

Burning the ground, I break from the crowd:

rumpdoll (285/292)
CupOfDreams (288/300)
DaveC (273/300)

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Re: AMF Top songs of the 1980s!

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:09 am

[171] Devo - Whip It

Points: -0.154, W/L Pct: 46.45%

Finished #31 in the 1980 Poll

AM 1980s Rank: 128, Previous 1980s Poll Rank: Unranked

Polarization Index: 25.92

Move ahead:

Hymie (12/300)

Break your momma's back:

FrankLotion (188/198)
Rob (273/300)
andyd1010 (271/300)
Dan (271/300)

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