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Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:14 am

Category 1: Nominate at least five and no more than ten acts that you feel are deserving of being in the AMF Hall. 2019 releases can be included in your evaluations. The point system: #1 = 10 pts., #2 = 9 pts., and so on. This poll is kind of the Wild West here, so if you are so inclined, you can push your most likely inductees (instead of your personal favorites) to the top spots. The acts with the four-highest points will be the inductees.

Category 2: Additionally if you'd like, you can nominate up to three “backstage wing” individuals who you feel deserve to be in the Hall. “Backstage wing” types include songwriters, producers, record company founders/owners, music video directors, and critics/scholars. (This has also included session musicians, wandering guest musicians, and record company house bands. Unofficial band members like Ian Stewart are "allowed" onstage in this category, as are guest musicians; but not a Performer's official backing band like the E Street Band.) The Backstage Wing point system: #1 = 3 pts., #2 = 2 pts., #3 = 1 pt. Whoever gets the highest points will be the inductee.

Category 3: Additionally if you'd like, you can vote on a proposition of mine to induct any and all prominent backing bands for inducted Performers (the vote would look like Backing Band Inductions: Yes or No). This would induct, for instance, the E Street Band, the Revolution, the Bad Seeds, and the Crickets alongside their performers (in parentheses, or right alongside), essentially like we already have with the Miracles, the Wailers, His Magic Band, and the Heartbreakers. I will go more into this in a separate post. Edit: Just to make it tougher on myself, this will also need a minimum of 5 Yes votes to pass, so that it doesn't skate in on sheer apathy.

I will keep this poll up through the end of Saturday, January 18th, UTC timezone. In the case of a tie in any category, a tie-breaker vote will go into effect for 3 days to determine the winner, in which case I will cast the last vote (or abstain) if need be.

With that all said and taken care of, let the voting begin!
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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019

Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:18 am

Regarding Category 3

I'm creating this as a one-time category. Looking at the inducted Performers, I feel like the induction of backing bands has been inconsistent -- Captain Beefheart's Magic Band, but not the E Street Band; the Wailers, but not the Jimi Hendrix Experience; Tom Petty's Heartbreakers, but not Elvis Costello's Attractions; Smokey Robinson's Miracles, but not the Bad Seeds or the Crickets. (Both Nick Cave and Buddy Holly are actually listed with their band on our site's main Top Artists of All Time page!)

I assume these are casual oversights. The Rock and Roll HOF had this problem itself when it suddenly inducted several backing bands in 2012, even if decades after the main performer's induction. (They did induct the Attractions, the Experience, and the Heartbreakers all at the same time as the main performer.) In my mind, these backing bands who were left out should already be considered inducted, but I didn't want to unilaterally decide this.

My proposed changes would maybe look like what is listed below, but it wouldn't be strictly limited to this, to protect my occasional ignorance. This would also cover future inductions, sparing us issues like, "Oh, should I have included Joan Jett's Blackhearts, Bill Haley's Comets..." Only the performer's more prominent backing bands would be used; otherwise Neil Young has about 10 such bands. I greatly prefer the band to have a name, instead of "Bowie had a pretty cool band in the '90s" or whatever. This is not a perfect system, but I feel like it would right some wrongs.

Louis Armstrong (and the Hot Five / Hot Seven)
David Bowie (and the Spiders from Mars)
James Brown (and the Famous Flames / the J.B.'s)
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Elvis Costello (and the Attractions)
Jimi Hendrix / The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Buddy Holly & the Crickets
Bill Monroe (and the Blue Grass Boys)
Prince (and the Revolution)
Bruce Springsteen (and the E Street Band)
Hank Williams (and the Drifting Cowboys)
Neil Young (and Crazy Horse)

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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019

Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:21 am

The list of inductees so far:

Performers:

ABBA
AC/DC
Aerosmith
Animal Collective
Aphex Twin
Arcade Fire
Arctic Monkeys
Louis Armstrong
The Band
Alain Bashung
The Beach Boys
Beastie Boys
The Beatles
Beck
Belle and Sebastian
Chuck Berry
Beyoncé
Big Star
Björk
Black Sabbath
Blondie
Blur
David Bowie
Georges Brassens
Jacques Brel
James Brown
Jeff Buckley
Kate Bush
Buzzcocks
The Byrds
Can
Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band
Johnny Cash
Nick Cave
Ray Charles
The Chemical Brothers
Chic
The Clash
Patsy Cline
Cocteau Twins
Leonard Cohen
Coldplay
Nat King Cole
Ornette Coleman
John Coltrane
Sam Cooke
Elvis Costello
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
The Cure
Daft Punk
Miles Davis
De La Soul
Deep Purple
Depeche Mode
Bo Diddley
DJ Shadow
Dr. Dre
Fats Domino
The Doors
Nick Drake
Bob Dylan
The Eagles
Duke Ellington
Eminem
Brian Eno
Eurythmics
The Everly Brothers
Ella Fitzgerald
The Flaming Lips
Fleetwood Mac
Foo Fighters
The Four Tops -- 2019
Aretha Franklin
Franz Ferdinand
Fugazi -- 2019
Peter Gabriel
Serge Gainsbourg
Marvin Gaye
Genesis
The Grateful Dead
Al Green
Green Day
Guns N’ Roses
Woody Guthrie
Merle Haggard
PJ Harvey
Jimi Hendrix
Billie Holiday
Buddy Holly
Howlin’ Wolf
Hüsker Dü
Janet Jackson
Michael Jackson
The Jam
Jay-Z
Jefferson Airplane
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Billy Joel -- 2019
Elton John
Robert Johnson
George Jones
Janis Joplin/Big Brother and the Holding Company
Joy Division
B. B. King
Carole King
King Crimson
The Kinks
The Knife
Kraftwerk
Fela Kuti
Kendrick Lamar
LCD Soundsystem
Leadbelly
Led Zeppelin
John Lennon
Jerry Lee Lewis
Little Richard
Love
Low
Lynyrd Skynyrd
M.I.A.
Madonna
Bob Marley and the Wailers
Massive Attack
Curtis Mayfield
Metallica
Charles Mingus
Missy Elliott
Joni Mitchell
Thelonious Monk
Bill Monroe
Ennio Morricone
Van Morrison
My Bloody Valentine
Nas
The National
Willie Nelson
Neutral Milk Hotel
New Order
Randy Newman
Joanna Newsom
Nine Inch Nails
Nirvana
The Notorious B.I.G.
N.W.A.
Oasis
Roy Orbison
OutKast
Parliament/Funkadelic
Charlie Parker
Gram Parsons
Pavement
Pearl Jam
Pet Shop Boys
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Edith Piaf
Pink Floyd
Pixies
The Pogues
The Police
Iggy Pop
Portishead
Elvis Presley
Pretenders
Primal Scream
Prince
Public Enemy
Pulp
Queen
Queens of the Stone Age
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Ramones
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Otis Redding
Lou Reed
Django Reinhardt
R.E.M.
The Replacements
Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
The Rolling Stones
Roxy Music
Run-D.M.C.
Santana
Sex Pistols
Sigur Ros
Paul Simon
Simon and Garfunkel
Nina Simone
Frank Sinatra
Siousxie and the Banshees
Sleater-Kinney
Sly and the Family Stone
The Smashing Pumpkins
Bessie Smith
Elliott Smith
Patti Smith
The Smiths
Soda Stereo
Sonic Youth
The Specials
Dusty Springfield
Bruce Springsteen
Steely Dan
Sufjan Stevens
The Stone Roses
The Stooges
The Strokes
St. Vincent -- 2019
Suede
The Supremes
T. Rex
Talk Talk
Talking Heads
Television
The Temptations
A Tribe Called Quest
TV on the Radio
U2
Van Halen
The Velvet Underground
Tom Waits
Scott Walker
Muddy Waters
Weezer
Kanye West
The White Stripes
The Who
Wilco
Hank Williams
Wire
Stevie Wonder
Wu-Tang Clan
X
XTC
Yes
Neil Young
Frank Zappa/The Mothers of Invention
Warren Zevon

Backstage Wing:

Steve Albini (Indie record producer)
Burt Bacharach and Hal David (Songwriting team)
Lester Bangs (Music critic)
Irving Berlin (Legendary songwriter)
Rodney Bingenheimer (Best known as the first American D.J. to play hot new punk/new wave/alternative acts)
Chris Blackwell (Founder of Island Records; helped popularize reggae music)
Booker T. & the MG’s (Stax Records house band)
Leonard Chess (Chess Records founder)
Robert Christgau (Music critic)
Miles and Ian Copeland (Miles: I.R.S. Records founder; Ian: Promoter, booker, his "FBI" talent agency helped new wave acts)
Ry Cooder (Guest musician discography a mile long; produced Buena Vista Social Club)
Willie Dixon (Also a prolific blues songwriter)
DJ Kool Herc (Credited with helping originate hip-hop music)
Brian Eno (Also a record producer)
Brian Epstein (Discovered and managed the Beatles)
Michael and Stephen Thomas Erlewine (Michael: Created AllMusic; Stephen: Allmusic critic and senior editor)
Ahmet Ertegun (Atlantic Records founder)
David Fincher (Music video director)
Henrik Franzon (Acclaimed Music founder)
Alan Freed (Early rock and roll D.J.)
Dave Fridmann (Indie record producer)
Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff (Songwriting and production team credited for developing Philadelphia soul)
George Gershwin (Legendary songwriter)
Gerry Goffin and Carole King (1960s songwriting team) -- 2019
Nick Gold (World-music producer)
Michel Gondry (Music video director)
Berry Gordy (Motown founder)
Norman Granz (Founded Verve, and other labels; jazz's most successful impresario)
John Hammond (Talent scout, helped the careers of Dylan, Springsteen, Billie Holiday, Aretha, Leonard Cohen, etc., etc.)
Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier and Eddie Holland (Motown songwriting and production team)
Nicky Hopkins (Session musician, 1960s to 1990s, e.g. the Rolling Stones)
Jimmy Iovine (Record producer; co-founder of Interscope Records)
Quincy Jones (Most famously the record producer for Michael Jackson, "We Are the World")
Spike Jonze (Music video director)
Casey Kasem (D.J. for American Top 40)
Hilly Kristal (Owner of the New York City club CBGB)
Larry Levan (American D.J., dance music pioneer)
Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller (Songwriting team and producers, primarily 1950s)
Alan Lomax (Ethnomusicologist, best known for numerous field recordings of folk music)
Greil Marcus (Music critic)
George Martin (Long-time Beatles producer)
Malcolm McLaren (Promoter and manager of the Sex Pistols, the New York Dolls)
Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section (A group of studio musicians, 1960s to 1980s; most notably played on "Respect")
Les Paul (One of the pioneers of the solid-body electric guitar; credited with many recording innovations)
Bruce Pavitt (Sub Pop founder)
John Peel (Legendary long-time English D.J.)
D.A. Pennebaker (Rock and roll documentary filmmaker, e.g. Don't Look Back)
Lee “Scratch” Perry (Reggae record producer; pioneer in dub music)
Sam Phillips (Record producer, Sun Records founder)
Cole Porter (Legendary songwriter for Broadway and film musicals)
Rick Rubin (Hip-hop/rock producer; Def Jam Recordings co-founder; established American Recordings)
Ryan Schreiber (Pitchfork founder)
Martin Scorsese (Also a rock and roll documentary filmmaker)
Harry Smith (Compiled 1952’s Anthology of American Folk Music)
Phil Spector (Record producer with the "Wall of Sound")
Timbaland (R&B/hip-hop record producer)
Rudy Van Gelder (Long-time jazz engineer, most closely associated with Blue Note Records)
Ivo Watts-Russell (Joint-founder of the indie record label 4AD)
Jann Wenner (Co-founder and publisher of Rolling Stone)
Jerry Wexler (Signed and/or produced numerous Atlantic Records stars)
Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong (Motown songwriting team)
Pharrell Williams (Also a record producer)
The Wrecking Crew (Loose collective of L.A. session musicians, 1960s-1970s; de facto house band for Phil Spector)

(Basic descriptions after the fact, edited by Live in Phoenix)
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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019

Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:23 am

Who is even left? Here are some names you could work with (not strictly recommendations). I don't think there's a very strong correlation between this poll and the Top Artist poll, but the four-highest non-inductees from that poll were: Bee Gees, Billy Joel (both in the top 100), Gorillaz, and Swans.

2pac – Johnny Ace – Adele – Air [France] – Alice in Chains – The Allman Brothers Band – Tori Amos – Laurie Anderson – The Animals – ANOHNI/Antony and the Johnsons – The B-52's – Bad Brains – Lavern Baker – Hank Ballard – Jeff Beck – Bee Gees – Bobby Bland – Blue Öyster Cult – Bon Iver – Boogie Down Productions – Garth Brooks – Roy Brown – Ruth Brown – Jackson Browne – Tim Buckley – Buffalo Springfield – Built to Spill – Solomon Burke – Johnny Burnette – Mariah Carey – The Cars – The Carter Family – Enrico Caruso – Cheap Trick – The Clovers – The Coasters – Eddie Cochran – Joe Cocker – Alice Cooper – Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young) – Bing Crosby – Dick Dale – Dead Kennedys – Def Leppard – Delaney and Bonnie – The Dells – Lana Del Rey – Derek and the Dominos – Devo – Neil Diamond – Dion – Dire Straits – Donovan – Drake – The Drifters – Dr. John – Earth, Wind and Fire – Duane Eddy – Enya – Eric B. and Rakim – Fairport Convention – The Fall – The Flamingos – The Four Seasons – Franco – Benny Goodman – Gorillaz – Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five – Grimes – Buddy Guy – Bill Haley and His Comets – Herbie Hancock – Emmylou Harris – Isaac Hayes – Heart – Julia Holter – John Lee Hooker – Whitney Houston – Ice Cube – Ice-T – Billy Idol – Julio Iglesias – Iron Maiden – The Isley Brothers – Jackson 5 – Etta James – Joan Jett & the Blackhearts – Al Jolson – Louis Jordan – Albert King – Kiss – Gladys Knight and the Pips – Brenda Lee – Little Willie John – LL Cool J – Darlene Love – The Lovin’ Spoonful – Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers – Manic Street Preachers – Martha and the Vandellas – Paul McCartney/Wings – Clyde McPhatter – John Mellencamp – Janelle Monáe – The Moody Blues – The Moonglows – Morrissey – Jelly Roll Morton – Motörhead – Billy Murray – Muse – Ricky Nelson – New York Dolls – Laura Nyro – Frank Ocean – The O’Jays – Mike Oldfield – Carl Perkins – Wilson Pickett – Gene Pitney – The Platters – Lloyd Price – The Prodigy – Bonnie Raitt – The Raspberries – Jimmy Reed – The Righteous Brothers – Robyn – Jimmie Rodgers – Sonny Rollins – The Ronettes – Linda Ronstadt – Todd Rundgren – Rush – Sam and Dave – Bob Seger – Del Shannon – The Shirelles – Slayer – Slint – Soundgarden – The Spinners - Spoon – The Staple Singers – Stereolab – Rod Stewart – Barbra Streisand – Donna Summer – Swans – Taylor Swift – Taj Mahal – Tame Impala – James Taylor – Richard Thompson (w/ or w/o Linda) – TLC – Tool – Traffic – Big Joe Turner – Tina Turner (w/ or w/o Ike) – Ritchie Valens – Vampire Weekend – Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble – Gene Vincent and His Blue Caps – Junior Walker & the All-Stars – John Williams – Lucinda Williams – Jackie Wilson – Bobby Womack – Link Wray – The xx – The Yardbirds – Yeah Yeah Yeahs – The Young Rascals – The Zombies – ZZ Top
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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019

Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:26 am

Here is the master list of eligible Backstage Wing nominations, with short or edited descriptions, plus the name of one forum member who made the nomination. (Let me know if you think my description missed the mark.) I added some names that I thought would be of some note.

William Ackerman and Anne Robinson (Founders of Windham Hill Records, a new age record label from 1976 to 2007) (Live in Phoenix)

Moses Asch (Ran the Asch [later Folkways] label from 1948 until his death in 1986; some of America's greatest folk songs were originally recorded for Asch) (EmilienDelRey)

Kurt Ballou ("Probably the greatest producer of heavy rock and metal albums in the last 20 years, responsible for dozens of modern classics") (FrankLotion)

Pierre Barouh (Introduced Bossa Nova in France before founding the "Saravah" label, on which some seminal French acts recorded) (Pierre)

Adrian Belew (King Crimson frontman has also played and/or toured with Frank Zappa, David Bowie, Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, Nine Inch Nails, Paul Simon, Tom Tom Club) (notbrianeno)

Pedro Bell (Made the elaborate album cover designs and other artwork for numerous Funkadelic and George Clinton solo albums. Bell also wrote many of the liner notes of the records under the name Sir Lleb.) (Live in Phoenix)

Emile Berliner (Inventor best known for inventing the flat disc record and the Gramophone) (Rocky Raccoon)

Otis Blackwell (His compositions include "Fever," "Great Balls of Fire," "Breathless," "Don't Be Cruel," "All Shook Up," "Return to Sender" [with Winfield Scott]; and "Handy Man") (The_Claw)

T-Bone Burnett (Record producer; credits include everyone from B.B. King to the Wallflowers, with over a dozen Grammys [e.g., Raising Sand; O Brother, Where Art Thou?], and one Oscar ["The Weary Kind" from Crazy Heart]) (DocBrown)

John Cale (Record producer and arranger on a number of albums, including the Stooges' debut and a trilogy by Nico; produced Patti Smith's Horses) (luney6)

Julián Carrillo (Composer, conductor, violinist and Mexican scientist, considered by many experts as one of the most important composers in the country and an important microtonal music pioneer) (Blanco)

Dick Clark (From 1956 to 1989, hosted American Bandstand, a popular music-performance and dance show also credited with introducing rock and roll to many Americans) (luvulongTIM)

Michel Colombier, Alain Goraguer, and Jean-Claude Vannier (Three of the Gainsbourg arrangers. And three great composers too.) (Romain)

Anton Corbijn (Director and photographer with his very own style: Nirvana’s “Heart Shaped Box,” Joy Division’s “Atmosphere,” and personal favourite Depeche Mode "Never Let Me Down Again") (Honorio)

Don Cornelius (American television show host and producer who was best known as the creator of the nationally syndicated dance and music show Soul Train [hosted 1971 to 1993]) (luvulongTIM)

Dee Nasty (French DJ who practically created the French hip-hop subculture) (Pierre)

DJ Premier (Has worked with Big Daddy Kane, Christina Aguilera, Common, D'Angelo, Dr. Dre, Game, Janet Jackson, Jay-Z, Kanye West, KRS-One, Ludacris, Mac Miller, Mobb Deep, Mos Def, Nas, The Notorious B.I.G., Rakim, Snoop Dogg) (EmilienDelRey)

Coxsone Dodd (Studio One owner/producer) (Mindrocker)

Tom Dowd (Atlantic Records' chief engineer and a producer; popularized multitrack recording; recorded both for Atlantic, Stax and Muscle Shoals and worked with jazz, R&B, soul and rock legends) (The_Claw)

Dr. Demento (American radio broadcaster specializing in novelty songs, comedy, and strange or unusual recordings; brought ‘Weird Al’ Yankovic to national attention) (luvulongTIM)

Dr. Dre (Produced for -- and in some cases, overseen the careers of -- 2Pac, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, 50 Cent, The Game, Kendrick Lamar, Anderson .Paak) (Live in Phoenix)

The Dust Brothers (Paul's Boutique, Odelay and MmmBop, 'nuff said!) (nassim)

Thomas Edison (His 1877 phonograph is the recording industry's Big Bang [originally too lo-fi for serious music recording, and improved on for years without him]. Co-founded Edison Records in 1888.) (Live in Phoenix)

Daniel Ek (Founder of Spotify. Changed the music listening experience and made streaming albums easier and more accessible.) (Mattceinicram)

El-P (Co-founder of the Definitive Juxrecord label; a major driving force in alternative hip hop, producing for Aesop Rock, Mr. Lif, and Cage, among others) (nassim)

Bob Ezrin (Produced some of the most entertaining hard rock albums in history [credits include Alice Cooper's '70s run, Lou Reed's Berlin, Kiss's Destroyer; co-producer of Pink Floyd's The Wall]) (Pierre)

Anthony Fantano ("Probably the most popular music critic of all time, and second only to Ebert & Roeper among critics of all mediums") (prosecutorgodot)

Flood (Post-punk and alternative rock record producer and audio engineer: New Order, U2, Nine Inch Nails, Nick Cave, PJ Harvey, Sigur Rós, The Smashing Pumpkins, Brian Eno) (notbrianeno)

Kim Fowley (Runaways manager; kinda like the John Waters of 70s glam/hard rock with his wild perversion and raunchy imagery) (luvulongTIM)

The Funk Brothers (Performed the backing to most Motown recordings from 1959 until 1972. One of the most successful groups of studio musicians in music history.) (Live in Phoenix)

Bob Geldof (Singer of the Boomtown Rats, co-founder of Band Aid, actor in The Wall, he has earned his place in pop music history) (Pierre)

Charlie Gillett (Radio presenter, musicologist and writer [e.g. The Sound of the City book]; promoted world music; discovered and promoted such acts as Dire Straits and Ian Dury) (DaveC)

Nigel Godrich (Producer of Radiohead's studio albums since OK Computer. Has worked with Beck, Paul McCartney, U2, R.E.M., Pavement and Roger Waters.) (Gillingham)

Gerry Goffin & Carole King (At the beginning of the ‘60s, they were a real teenage couple writing splendid teenage symphonies from the Brill Building that fulfilled the teenager dreams) (Honorio)

Peter Guralnick (Music biographer, including an acclaimed two-volume Elvis biography in the '90s) (Live in Phoenix)

Rick Hall (Record producer, owner of FAME Studios. "I'd recommend the documentary Muscle Shoals for his story. It's amazing how much great music came out of there, and he had a lot to do with it.") (andyd1010)

W.C. Handy ("Possibly the most important backstage guy in popular music. The blues became part of the musical landscape thanks to his compositions [like 'St. Louis Blues'], which also helped developed jazz.") (Rob)

Martin Hannett (Producer, particularly of Joy Division's two LPs, significantly shaping the sound of those records) (Live in Phoenix)

Hipgnosis (English art design group [primarily Storm Thorgerson and Aubrey Powell, and later Peter Christopherson]. Album cover clients included Led Zeppelin, Genesis, Wings, T. Rex, and especially Pink Floyd.) (Live in Phoenix)

Jessica Hopper (American writer; author of The First Collection of Criticism by a Living Female Rock Critic, a compilation of her essays, reported pieces, zines, and reviews) (StevieFan13)

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis (Went from playing in The Time to being major R&B songwriters and producers: Janet Jackson [nine #1 hits], TLC, Michael Jackson, Boyz II Men, Usher, Mary J. Blige, Mariah Carey. Wrote 41 U.S. top ten hits.) (Live in Phoenix)

Eddie Kramer (Recording producer and engineer: Jimi Hendrix [all four original albums], the Beatles, David Bowie, Eric Clapton, The Kinks, Kiss, Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones and Carlos Santana) (Live in Phoenix)

Robert John "Mutt" Lange (Produced some of the most entertaining hard rock albums in history [AC/DC's Highway to Hell, Back in Black; Def Leppard's Pyromania, Hysteria]) (Pierre)

Bill Laswell (Everywhere-at-once figure as a producer, player, composer and multiple-label entrepreneur [Ramones, Swans, Herbie Hancock, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Motörhead, the Last Poets, Whitney Houston, Fela Kuti, etc.]) (Live in Phoenix)

Teo Macero (Jazz saxophonist, composer, record producer; producer at Columbia Records for twenty years; credits include Bitches Brew, and Dave Brubeck's Time Out) (sonofsamiam)

Robert Mapplethorpe (Creator of a disturbing but fascinating universe with his provocative black and white pictures, not hiding pornographic subjects. Favourite cover art: Patti Smith's Horses.) (Honorio)

Marley Marl (DJ, producer [LL Cool J's Mama Said Knock You Out], rapper, record label founder; influenced hip hop icons such as RZA, DJ Premier, and Pete Rock) (StevieFan13)

Dave Marsh (For his many written words concerning the world of music and his part in organizing the real RnR HOF) (Rocky Raccoon)

Jimmy Miller (Producer, notably the Rolling Stones' most famous run [even the main drummer on "You Can't Always Get What You Want," "Tumbling Dice"]; Steve Winwood's '60s run; also Screamadelica) (Henry)

Robert Moog (Inventor of the synthesizer, which is easily as influential on popular music as the electric guitar) (Kingoftonga)

Giorgio Moroder (Dubbed the "Father of Disco", pioneering Italo disco and electronic dance music; his work with synthesizers heavily influenced several music genres) (The_Claw)

Shadow Morton ("For his contributions to my favorite girl group of all time, The Shangri-Las." Wrote and produced "Remember [Walking in the Sand]", "Leader of the Pack", and other hits) (HRS)

James Murphy (Has worked on the side with Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Arcade Fire, Gorillaz, Pulp) (notbrianeno)

The Neptunes (I know Pharrell is already on the list but I think the Neptunes with Chad Hugo deserve even more recognition for their contribution to pop music) (FrankLotion)

Michael Nesmith (Monkee, songwriter [including "Different Drum"], actor, producer, novelist; won the first Grammy for Video of the Year for Elephant Parts; wrote/directed one-hour Monkees '90s comedy special) (jap123)

Jack Nitzsche (Just seemed to pop up in the '60s through '80s -- collaborations with Phil Spector, the Rolling Stones, Neil Young; co-wrote "Needles and Pins"; film work included co-writing "Up Where We Belong" [Oscar winner]) (Live in Phoenix)

Alan Parsons (Assistant recording engineer on "Let It Be" and "Abbey Road," engineer for Dark Side of the Moon, reinvented the Hollies, produced 11 albums as the Alan Parsons Project) (DocBrown)

Lori Petty (American actress and director; Pierre might need to explain this one to me... Perhaps for her roles in rock & roll dramas like Clubland, and Prey for Rock & Roll) (Pierre)

Conny Plank (Principal krautrock producer, also many new wave/postpunk acts in the 80s) (Mindrocker)

Ann Powers (Music critic, writer [NPR, Los Angeles Times, New York Times, Spin, Village Voice]; co-authored book Piece by Piece with Tori Amos) (Pierre)

Mark Radcliffe (Radio broadcaster; best known for his broadcasting work for the BBC since the 1980s [e.g., Mark and Lard, The Folk Show]) (Akhenaten)

The Raelettes (American girl group from the 1950s to 2003, formed, as the name suggests, to provide backing vocals for Ray Charles) (Pierre)

Duke Reid (Jamaican record producer, DJ and label owner; dominated the Jamaican music scene of the 1960s, specializing in ska and rocksteady) (Live in Phoenix)

David Ritz (Autobiographies co-written by Ritz include: Ray Charles, Marvin Gaye, Jerry Wexler, Etta James, B.B. King, Neville Brothers, Janet Jackson, Morris Day. Author of Respect: The Life of Aretha Franklin. Co-wrote "Sexual Healing" song.) (Live in Phoenix)

Sylvia Robinson (Founder and CEO of Sugar Hill Records, "The Mother of Hip–Hop"; credited as the driving force behind "Rapper's Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang, and Grandmaster Flash's "The Message") (EmilienDelRey)

Nile Rodgers (Produced David Bowie's Let's Dance, Madonna's Like a Virgin; later worked with The B-52s, Mick Jagger, Bryan Ferry, Lady Gaga, and Daft Punk [three Grammy Awards]) (bootsy)

(Richard) Rodgers and (Oscar) Hammerstein (Songwriting team behind Oklahoma!, South Pacific, The King and I, and The Sound of Music. The "Lennon/McCartney" style of dual songwriting credit was based on these kinds of teams.) (Live in Phoenix)

Todd Rundgren (Production credits include Badfinger's Straight Up, Grand Funk Railroad's We're an American Band, New York Dolls, Meat Loaf's Bat Out of Hell, XTC's Skylarking) (Henry)

RZA (Produced many Wu-Tang solo and affiliate projects) (Gillingham)

Gustavo Santaolalla (One of the most-awarded and recognized musicians in South America. Santaolalla has produced over a hundred albums, which form a kind of map of Latin alternative music.) (Blanco)

Stéphane Saunier (Arranged the live performances on the French show Nulle Part Ailleurs [including Jeff Buckley, Nirvana, Pulp, and Elliott Smith]. The show was known as the best place to perform.) (Nassim)

Piero Scaruffi (Music critic; he has some unorthodox opinions, but a lot of the time the criticism is objective. He reviews a lot of genres that someone like Robert Christgau hasn't even touched on.) (PlasticRam)

Sly and Robbie (Drummer Sly Dunbar and bassist Robbie Shakespeare, a prolific Jamaican rhythm section and production duo, associated primarily with the reggae and dub genres) (Live in Phoenix)

Charles Stepney (Record producer, arranger, songwriter and musician; noted for his work with The Dells, Ramsey Lewis, Rotary Connection and Earth, Wind & Fire) (EmilienDelRey)

Bernie Taupin (Elton John’s long-time lyricist; also co-wrote Heart’s “These Dreams") (luvulongTIM)

Ike Turner (In the ‘50s, a producer/talent scout for innumerous R&B acts including Howlin' Wolf, Bobby Bland and Elmore James, and of course his future wife Tina) (Mindrocker)

Tony Visconti (Producer, including 11 David Bowie studio albums from the ‘60s to Low to Blackstar, and 10 T. Rex albums) (Live in Phoenix)

Andy Warhol (Sticky Fingers and Velvet Underground album covers, among many others; Lou Reed: "In a sense, he really did produce [the Velvets' debut], because he was this umbrella that absorbed all the attacks when we weren't large enough to be attacked.") (Live in Phoenix)

Richard Weize (Founder of Bear Family Records, a Germany-based label that specializes in extravagant reissues of archival material, including country music and 1950s rock and roll) (Live in Phoenix)

Kanye West (Executive producer on his own albums; producing credits include The Blueprint, Common's Be and countless other albums and songs) (PlasticRam)

Vivienne Westwood (British fashion designer, largely responsible for bringing modern punk and new wave fashions into the mainstream; made clothes for Malcolm McLaren's "SEX" boutique) (Pierre)

Joel Whitburn (For decades, he and his company have examined music charts [1890s-onward] and published reference books like The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits 1955–2009) (Live in Phoenix)

Hype Williams (Music video director: "Woo Hah!! Got You All in Check", "Gettin' Jiggy wit It", "No Scrubs", Kanye West's "Gold Digger." Has collaborated with Kanye on 20 videos, and with Busta Rhymes on 16 videos.) (bootsy)

Brian Wilson (Equally as gifted as George Martin and his hero Phil Spector) (madzong)

Tom Wilson (Producer: Bob Dylan, the Mothers of Invention, Simon & Garfunkel, the Velvet Underground [their debut's real producer], Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra, Eddie Harris, Nico, Eric Burdon and the Animals) (Live in Phoenix)

Tony Wilson (Behind some of Manchester's most successful bands. He was one of the five co-founders of Factory Records and the founder and manager of the Haçienda nightclub. Promoted the culture of Manchester throughout his career.) (Akhenaten)

Francis Wolff & Alfred Lion (Wolff: Record company executive, photographer for Blue Note record label. Lion: Record executive, co-founded Blue Note Records, which featured many of the biggest names in jazz 1940s-1960s.) (EmilienDelRey)

Tim Yohannan (Founder of the punk subculture fanzine Maximum Rocknroll [print run 1982 to 2019], and strong presence within it even after his death in 1998. "MRR" continues in its radio show format, along with its website.) (Live in Phoenix)
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1. John Williams
We haven't inducted the guy who's probably been the film soundtrack (several times over) to your childhood/teenage years? The Star Wars films, Schindler's List, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Superman, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, the Indiana Jones films, Jaws, Jurassic Park, 1984 Summer Olympic Games, etc.... 5 Academy Awards, plus the American Film Institute selected the 1977 Star Wars as the greatest American film score of all time.
2. Oingo Boingo
3. Billy Idol
4. The Moody Blues
5. Justin Hayward
6. Sting
7. Suzanne Vega
8. Tori Amos
9. Enya
10. Soundgarden

Backstage
1. Thomas Edison
2. Dr. Dre
3. Bob Geldof

Backing Band Inductions: Yes

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  1. Whitney Houston
  2. Tori Amos
  3. Dire Straits
  4. Billy Joel
  5. Donna Summer
  6. Suzanne Vega
  7. Muse
  8. Grimes
  9. Earth, Wind and Fire
  10. Gladys Knight and The Pips
BACKSTAGE WING
  1. Giorgio Moroder
  2. Gerry Goffin and Carole King
  3. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis

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Post by StevieFan13 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:37 am

1. Billy Joel
2. Tori Amos
3. Gladys Knight and the Pips
4. 2Pac
5. Earth, Wind and Fire
6. Manic Street Preachers
7. Donna Summer
8. LL Cool J
9. Devo
10. Paul McCartney/Wings
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1. Tim Buckley
2. St Vincent
3. Godspeed! You Black Emperor
4. Pere Ubu
5. Arvo Part

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Post by Edre Peraza » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:00 pm

1. Bad Religion
2. The Offspring
3. Yellow Magic Orchestra
4. Dead Kennedys
5. Lil Peep

- Bad Religion really should be in here for their contribution to the punk scene with the founding of Epitaph and pioneering the melodic hardcore and skate punk sound. Without their sound and label it is likely bands such as The Offspring and other 90s punk bands would never had the chance to take off.

- The Offspring go hand and hand with Bad Religion. Not only do The Offspring hold the record for best selling independent album but are one of the main bands in the punk revival.
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1 | Thrice
2 | Muse
3 | Vampire Weekend
4 | Lana Del Rey
5 | Blink-182
6 | Fiona Apple
7 | Father John Misty
8 | Avenged Sevenfold
9 | Florence and the Machine
10 | The Black Keys


I'll reiterate my previous backstage nomination of Rick Hall.

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Post by Schüttelbirne » Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:56 pm

1. Bon Iver
2. Billy Joel
3. Sting
4. Earth, Wind & Fire
5. New York Dolls
6. Laurie Anderson
7. Lauryn Hill
8. Alison Krauss
9. Nina Hagen Band
10. Comedian Harmonists


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1. Manfred Eicher (Founder of ECM Records and record producer)
2. T-Bone Burnett
3. Thomas Edison

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Post by mileswide » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:57 pm

I'm doing all I can to favour impact over personal taste in my top 5 at least but do excuse any egregious biases that seep through!

1. Wiley
The Godfather of Grime, one of the few artists who enjoys unanimous agreement on having created a genre singlehandedly. Every grime artist of the original wave has had firsthand associations with him, be it in the form of mentorship, collaboration, beef or all three in the cases of Dizzee Rascal and Skepta, whom Wiley convinced to swap decks for a mic. The genre has changed dramatically in production values and fortunes since its founder gave it the nascent name of 'eskibeat' but Wiley's foundations remain, namely jungle-inspired rapping over roughed-up, sped-up 2-step beats and, even more crucially, a DIY ethic that has allowed the scene to dominate British culture without ceding an ounce of creative control.

2. Fugazi
Another proponent of DIY, Ian MacKaye started his own label to get his message out there with Minor Threat's debut EP. And his message certainly found an audience; his legacy would be secure solely based on Minor Threat and his later band Fugazi's indelible influence on the formation of post-hardcore, emo and 90s punk. Yet, his name will always be synonymous with the Straight Edge movement borne by the song of the same name's rejection of rock 'n' roll vices, the reverberations of which having only being felt by a relative few but never having left them.

3. Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Admittedly the artist I've heard least of my 10 and one whose story has only just started to be recalled in recent years. Arguably the individual most responsible for gospel's commercial peak on the cusp of the Second World War, Sister Rosetta is most notable in a modern context for allegedly being the first recording artist to use distortion on her electric guitar. Even towards the end of her career, Tharpe was inspiring audiences, her gig supporting Muddy Waters in 1963 at Manchester's Twisted Wheel rivalling the Sex Pistols at the Free Trade Hall in the same city for its reported guestlist, with Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Keith Richards and Brian Jones all supposedly being in attendance.

4. Dr. Feelgood
The missing link between the rock of the old guard and UK punk. Yes, punk wouldn't have happened without Ramones but the Feelgoods signposted how British youth could make the sound authentic to them. Their back-to-basics approach appealed to bands starting out who felt stadium rock was beyond their reach but it was Wilko Johnson's jagged riffs that really distinguished the band, finding their largest echo in Gang of Four's funky post-punk, thereby indirectly influencing an untold number of artists.

5. Emmylou Harris
It doesn't feel right to me to see Gram Parsons in the Hall without Emmylou, his solo albums would lack their emotional core without her- to think, she was never a country singer before starting sessions for GP. Whatever Gram discovered in her was worth unearthing even if it were only for her innate talent for harmony singing- when I've seen performances of her, whoever she's singing with, she seems to know how best to bring the best out of their voices while not trying to seize the spotlight. Thankfully, she is of course a mellifluous solo singer as well and one that has made her best run of albums since hitting 50.

6. Iron Maiden
7. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
8. 2Pac
9. The Carter Family (Can the Circle Be Unbroken?, not Can I Get A...?)
10. Madness

Backstage wing
1. Nile Rodgers
2. Sylvia Robinson
3. Martin Hannett
(I am incredulous that The Funk Brothers haven't been nominated though, which kind of brings me to...)

Backing band inductions: 100% yes. Music seems to be becoming ever-more collaborative with some would-be solo geniuses being increasingly loath to acknowledge outside involvement. Even in the past and even with the greatest talents, probably only Prince could do it all. There's no way for us to include every contributor to the music we love but automatically inducting backing bands would help redress the balance.
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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:20 pm

mileswide wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:57 pm

Backstage wing
1. Nile Rodgers
2. Sylvia Robinson
3. Martin Hannett
(I am incredulous that The Funk Brothers haven't been nominated though, which kind of brings me to...)
I imagine the issue is that there are people (like myself) who don't know studio musicians that well. Looking at their description ("performed the backing to most Motown recordings from 1959 until 1972. They are considered one of the most successful groups of studio musicians in music history"), the Funk Brothers seem like a no-brainer to be inducted within at least the next few years. I will add them to the master list above. (Incidentally, I am going to add a very brief description next to the Backstage Wing members who have been inducted -- there are some I'm not even familiar with.)

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Post by CupOfDreams » Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:49 pm

1) Swans
2) Stereolab
3) Fugazi
4) Gang of Four
5) Donovan
6) The Four Tops
7) Tame Impala
8) Dr. John
9) Air
10) Bobby Womack

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2) Gerry Goffin & Carole King
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Post by mileswide » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:56 pm

Live in Phoenix wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:20 pm
I imagine the issue is that there are people (like myself) who don't know studio musicians that well.
I'd only first heard of the Funk Brothers through the doc Standing in the Shadows of Motown, I was just surprised there was something you knowledgeable people weren't aware of!

I suppose it didn't help that Motown didn't credit session musicians in liner notes until 1971. Due to this loss in royalties, they also appeared on other labels' recordings under pseudonyms to avoid Gordy Berry's attention, including Jackie Wilson's Higher and Higher, John Lee Hooker's Boom Boom, Band of Gold by Freda Payne and Give Me Just a Little More Time by Chairmen of the Board (the latter two at Invictus, the label founded by their former Motown colleagues Holland-Dozier-Holland).

There simply wouldn't be a Motown Sound as we know it without them, so I'm grateful you've added them to the master list :mrgreen:
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Post by Henry » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:59 am

1) Todd Rundgren/Utopia
2) The Style Council
3) Chicago
4) Steve Winwood
5) The Allman Brothers
6) The Doobie Brothers
7) The English Beat
8) Journey
9) Joe Satriani
10) Joe Jackson

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Post by acroamor » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:19 am

1. Sharon Van Etten
2. Mitski
3. Titus Andronicus
4. The Olivia Tremor Control
5. Fugazi
6. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
7. St. Vincent
8. Taylor Swift
9. Yeah Yeah Yeahs
10. Vampire Weekend

Backstage:
1. Robert Mapplethorpe
2. Martin Scorsese
3. T-Bone Burnett

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:18 pm

acroamor wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:19 am

Backstage:
1. Robert Mapplethorpe
2. Martin Scorsese
3. T-Bone Burnett
Scorsese was already inducted in the 2008 class :geek:
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1) Todd Rundgren/Utopia
Henry, usually you just put Todd Rundgren…?

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:41 pm

mileswide wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:56 pm

(Sidenote: if anyone's voting for either Minor Threat or Fugazi, I'll be willing to alter my entry to the relevant band)
By now, I've mentally considered this a Fugazi vote. (Maybe Henry is doing the same dynamic with his #1 vote.)

=============================================

At the moment, we have a four-way tie for Backstage Wing. If that sort of thing keeps up, I'll probably run a tie-breaker vote for a whole week.

=============================================

At the moment, Category 3 (the Backing Bands induction vote) doesn't look like it is getting traction. Perhaps people favor the status quo on this.

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Post by mileswide » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:50 pm

Live in Phoenix wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:41 pm
By now, I've mentally considered this a Fugazi vote.
I've now edited it to such to make it official :)
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Post by Wisnu Tirta Aji » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:08 am

1. Journey
2. Taylor Swift
3. Chicago
4. Four Tops
5. The Allman Brothers Band
6. Joe Jackson
7. Steve Winwood
8. The Doobie Brothers
9. Bobby Womack
10. Emmylou Harris
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Post by Live in Phoenix » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:25 pm

A little over a week left :text-bump:

Consider it a hard deadline, since you only have to cough up 5 to 13 names (instead of hundreds of songs/albums).

For the record, Rush isn't in yet...

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Post by luvulongTIM » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:58 pm

Tom Snyder for the backstage wing for giving the punk rock movement a platform to thrive by frequenting his show.

1. Lush
2. Shonen Knife
3. Teenage Fanclub
4. Guided by Voices
5. Manic Street Preachers
6. Supergrass
7. Sinead O’ Conner
8. Billy Bragg
9. Vampire Weekend

And since pop stars are really finally getting over with critics especially female, I decided to see how well this individual was listing.....0 albums even bubbling and her arch rival Britney ranks 500 notices ABOVE her???? She deserves better for someone who’s got Britney beat by miles in the talent department so, breaking tradition.......
10. Christina Aguilera
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Post by Dexter » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:33 am

1. Soundgarden
2. Alice in Chains
3. Jimmy Cliff
4. Françoise Hardy
5. Antônio Carlos Jobim
6. The B-52's
7. The Allman Brothers Band
8. Sarah Vaughan
9. Donna Summer
10. Yellow Magic Orchestra

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Post by Pierre » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:45 am

1. Rush

Suddenly in a Rush mood after Neil Peart's death. At the moment they are the most underrated band for me.

2. Léo Ferré

The French moment. In France we usually say that Brassens, Brel and Ferré were the three giants of French chanson in the golden age, and he's therefore the last piece of the puzzle missing.

3. Laura Nyro

Criminally underrated. Why isn't she considered a giant?

4. Sade

As years pass I love her more and more.

5. Tina Turner

An overdue icon.

6. Andrés Calamaro

Overproductive genius of Spanish-language rock. The footprint he has left among our Spanish-speaking fellows is huge, with his excessively sprawling solo output, and all the bands he's been a part of.

7. Albert Ayler

Between him and Don Cherry it's a tie for which free jazz icon should follow in Ornette Coleman and John Coltrane's footsteps by being inducted.

8. Underworld

Underworld, Orbital and Air are one holy trinity of electronic music acts who should be inducted, so that at least all the big classics would be in.

9. Journey

The biggest AOR act. Love the genre or not, I've come to the conclusion that the general critical approach is sometimes wrong, and Journey played a big role in that evolution. Their music is just good.

10. Death

For fun. They are not the creators of death metal, but they were critical in the genre's breakout.


Backstage wing:

1. Bob Geldof

For all his contributions in various fields about music.

2. Vivienne Westwood

Got her on my mind as a side-effect of that book about punk that got me voting for Bingenheimer too.

3. Nigel Godrich

Unpopular opinion time :violence-duel: I think he might be the real genius in Radiohead's career. I've always felt their music was more interesting for their production than the actual songs.

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Post by Rocky Raccoon » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:52 pm

Only including acts whose first album came out no later than 2009.

1. John Mellencamp
2. The Four Tops
3. Derek and the Dominos
4. Vampire Weekend
5. Buddy Guy
6. Soundgarden
7. St. Vincent
8. Living Colour
9. The Zombies
10. Bill Haley and His Comets

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Post by Akhenaten » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:10 pm

1. Madness
2. Paul McCartney
3. Donna Summer
4. Manic Street Preachers
5. St. Vincent
6. Sinéad O’Connor
7. Tori Amos
8. Billy Joel
9. Muse
10. Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine
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Post by DaveC » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:39 am

1. Roy Harper
2. Manic Street Preachers
3. Four Tops
4. Gentle Giant
5. Camel
6. The Moody Blues
7. Muse
8. Fiona Apple
9. Songs: Ohia/Jason Molina
10. Gang of Four

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:36 am

A little under 48 hours left (UTC time zone ... so about 45 1/2 hours left). Some exciting/heartbreaking finalist changes of late.

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Post by The_Claw » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:33 pm

1. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
2. Paul McCartney & Wings
3. Bee Gees
4. The Prodigy
5. Ike & Tina Turner
6. Eric B & Rakim
7. St. Vincent
8. Donna Summer
9. The Four Tops
10. LL Cool J

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1. Otis Blackwell
2. Goffin & King
3. Anton Corbijn

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:02 am

24 hours!

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Post by Nassim » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:56 pm

1. Built to Spill
2. Modest Mouse
3. Fugazi
4. Hot Chip
5. Car Seat Headrest
6. Gorillaz
7. Four Tet
8. Run the Jewels
9. Burial
10. Slint

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Post by Neil » Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:26 pm

1. Lana Del Rey
2. Taylor Swift
3. Robyn
4. Kacey Musgraves
5. Vampire Weekend
6. Courtney Barnett
7. Sade
8. Frank Ocean
9. Father John Misty
10.Grimes

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1. Todd Rundgren

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:11 am

This poll is CLOSED.

Sort of. It looks like three performers are locked in, and then there's a tie; and then the Backstage Wing got surprisingly tied up again. I will start a tie-breaker poll tomorrow. As for the results, I think it's better to present everything at once. (Backing Band Inductions didn't pass, anyway.)

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:11 am

The winners have all been determined, and I will roll out the results tomorrow morning (i.e. 12+ hours from now).

You're not necessarily supposed to know one of the quotes or references below, but if you do, you'll have figured out one of the performer inductees early.

I feel like I almost died making [redacted] ... The thing you don't have control over is writing--you have to pull it out of yourself, stretch yourself … you pace the room with something like the dry heaves, having no control over the muse, horrified that it won't come. You're always in the desert looking for the oasis ... You have to lay your guts on the table...
This singer was greatly inspired by a part from Jimi Hendrix's "If 6 Was 9" ("I'm the one that's gonna die when it's time for me to die / So let me live my life the way I want to"), and made his/her own sort of assertion of it.
Q: What do you do when you’re not together? Does it ever happen? Take vacations away from each other?
A: … We actually we see each other every day in [redacted]. We play golf a little bit, we’ll go to the football game, or we’ll come over--
Q: --I don’t believe this story!
[T]here was a woman who had been sent to the insane asylum ... [then] she created an entire wedding dress out of toilet paper and spit--and it was the most beautiful thing you’ve ever seen. So: creators create.

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Post by StevieFan13 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:56 am

I’m gonna have to wait another year to get Billy Joel in, aren’t I? And he’s gonna lose to an artist who’s been around four decades less than he has, right?
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Billy Joel

Some kind words: "[A]s the first disc [of The Essential Billy Joel] unfurls, even cynics may wonder why he's been dogged by the critics, since singer/songwriter pop doesn't come better than 'Say Goodbye to Hollywood,' 'New York State of Mind,' 'Only the Good Die Young,' 'My Life,' 'It's Still Rock and Roll to Me,' 'Don't Ask Me Why,' 'Allentown,' and their seven companions." (Allmusic)

Top 10 rated studio albums (Rate Your Music)
1. The Stranger (#1 Acclaimed Music)
2. 52nd Street (#2 Acclaimed Music)
3. Turnstiles
4 (tie). Glass Houses
4 (tie). The Nylon Curtain
6. An Innocent Man
7. Piano Man
8. Cold Spring Harbor
9. Streetlife Serenade
10. Storm Front

Top rated best-of: The Essential Billy Joel

Top 10 Acclaimed Music songs:
1. Piano Man
2. Just the Way You Are
3. Uptown Girl
4. New York State of Mind
5. Scenes from an Italian Restaurant
6. Allentown
7. The Longest Time
8. The River of Dreams
9. Only the Good Die Young
10. I’ve Loved These Days
"I feel like I almost died making The Nylon Curtain," [Billy Joel] said. "The thing you don't have control over is writing--you have to pull it out of yourself, stretch yourself...you pace the room with something like the dry heaves, having no control over the muse, horrified that it won't come. You're always in the desert looking for the oasis, and all that's out there with you is the piano, this big, black beast with 88 teeth. You have to lay your guts on the table and go through them 11 times on an album. Fifty thousand packs of cigarettes later, you start getting it."

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The Four Tops

Some kind words: "[N]othing outside of Phil Spector's epic work for the Righteous Brothers and Ike and Tina Turner rivals the sweep of 'Baby I Need Your Loving,' 'It's the Same Old Song,' 'I Can't Help Myself' or, especially, 'Reach Out I'll Be There' and 'Standing in the Shadows of Love.' On the last two numbers, both released in 1966, the Tops and Motown came of age--cinematic orchestral arrangements, lyrics of an utmost poetic immediacy, and the straining of [Levi] Stubbs's voice toward a pitch of just-short-of-transcendent frustration make for music of spine-tingling intensity." (Rolling Stone)

Top 10 rated studio albums (Rate Your Music):
1. Reach Out (#1 Acclaimed Music)
2. Second Album
3. Main Street People
4. Four Tops
5. Meeting of the Minds
6. Still Waters Run Deep
7. Nature Planned It
8. Keeper of the Castle
9 (tie). Dynamite
9 (tie). Four Tops Now!

Top rated best-of: Anthology (1974)

Top Acclaimed Music songs:
1. Reach Out I'll Be There
2. I Can't Help Myself
3. Baby I Need Your Loving
4. Bernadette
5. It's the Same Old Song
6. Standing in the Shadows of Love
7. 7 Rooms of Gloom
8. Still Water (Love)
9. Ask the Lonely
American Bandstand, 1981
Dick Clark: What do you do when you’re not together? Does it ever happen? Take vacations away from each other?
The Four Tops: … We actually we see each other every day in Detroit. We play golf a little bit, we’ll go to the football game, or we’ll come over--
Dick Clark: --I don’t believe this story! Naw, this can’t be!
The Four Tops: It’s the truth, we see each other. In fact, Lawrence and I [Levi] stay about two blocks from each other; Duke and Obie stay next door!

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:39 pm

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Fugazi

Some kind words: Fugazi produces "pure, high-intensity punk rock of rare intelligence and artistry without any concession to the tug of commercialism … [Their debut] blends a classic DC-core sensibility with a mature, objective outlook and crisply produced mid-tempo songs that are dynamic, aggressive and accessible. Repeater is a blueprint for the post-hardcore world … [T]heir sound reiterates why punk rock still matters." (Trouser Press/Pitchfork)

Albums, ranked (Acclaimed Music / Rate Your Music for the last three)
1. Repeater
2. The Argument
3. 13 songs [compilation of debut EPs]
4. In on the Kill Taker
5. Red Medicine
6. Steady Diet of Nothing
7. End Hits
8. First Demo [archival]
9. Instrument soundtrack

Top 5 Acclaimed Music songs:
1. Waiting Room
2. Repeater
3. Merchandise
4. Margin Walker
5. Bed for the Scraping
Q: [Y]ou're often looked at as the ultimate DIY punk. You're even admired by people who don't seem to follow your example at all. Is that weird?

Ian MacKaye: No, because I was a Hendrix fan, and he had a deep impact on me, and I certainly didn’t do what he did. In his song "If 6 Was 9," he had the line "I'm the one that's gonna die when it's time for me to die / So let me live my life the way I want to." I think most people would agree, especially considering that song was used on the Easy Rider soundtrack, that it was sort of a declaration of the right to be a freak and do whatever drugs you wanted to. But what I heard was exactly what he said—live your life the way you want to—and it deeply inspired me to think about that in my own life and make my own sort of declaration of that.

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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019 (poll closed)

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St. Vincent

Some kind words: "The smartest indie-rock star of her generation." Over the course of her career through her self-titled album "she has gone from a prodigiously talented, occasionally precious genre-juggler to an assured pop visionary -- establishing herself along the way as a bona fide guitar god" (Rolling Stone)

Albums, ranked (Acclaimed Music / Rate Your Music for the last three)
1. St. Vincent
2. MASSEDUCTION
3. Strange Mercy (#1 Rate Your Music)
4. Actor
5. Marry Me
6. MassEducation
7. Love This Giant (with David Byrne)

Top 10 Acclaimed Music songs:
1. Digital Witness
2. New York
3. Cruel
4. Los Ageless
5. Prince Johnny
6. Birth in Reverse
7. Who
8. Surgeon
9. Krokodil
10. Pills
Creators create. I was at a museum once [in Switzerland] and there was a woman who had been sent to the insane asylum. Her dream in life was that she wanted to get married, and so, she created an entire wedding dress out of toilet paper and spit. And it was the most beautiful thing you’ve ever seen. So: creators create; the people have an irresistible urge to make something no matter where they are. They’re going to find a way to build it, make it. And that’s really the thing that drives me the most is a desire to just make things. I just want to make things. And hopefully make great things. And play shows that people may like or dislike, but they won’t forget.

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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019 (poll closed)

Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:56 pm

Top Eleven point total:

The Four Tops -- 31 points (tie)
Fugazi -- 31 (tie)
Billy Joel -- 29
St. Vincent -- 27 pts. and fourteen tie-breaker votes

Manic Street Preachers -- 27 pts. and six tie-breaker votes
Tori Amos -- 25
Vampire Weekend -- 24
Donna Summer -- 23
Taylor Swift -- 21
Paul McCartney/Wings -- 19 (tie)
Muse -- 19 (tie)



Backstage Wing:
Gerry Goffin & Carole King -- 6 pts. and thirteen tie-breaker votes
Giorgio Moroder -- 6 pts. and four tie-breaker votes
Todd Rundgren -- 6 pts. and four tie-breaker votes

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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019 (poll closed)

Post by StevieFan13 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:28 pm

Wow. Very glad I was proven wrong!
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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019 (poll closed)

Post by mileswide » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:00 am

A lovingly curated rollout, Live in Phoenix, and the quotes amused me- I thought they were all going to be from the same act, which I guessed was St. Vincent based on the "Creators create" anecdote. The Nylon Curtain couldn't have been more stressful for Billy Joel to make than his solo debut when he tried to end it all by drinking furniture polish.
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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:53 pm

Thanks mileswide. My quotes were intended to cause at least a little bit of confusion. Back in the '90s when I came of age, there were all these lines drawn in publications and interviews over who was cool (practically over who was even supposed to be allowed to record music). So it's kind of funny that I can use some quotes of musicians from different backgrounds and eras, and then a lot of the musicians can sound a little bit like each other -- apparently they can all even sound like someone from a later era than their respective heydays!

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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019 (poll closed)

Post by mileswide » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:48 am

I spose it shows that musicians have always resorted to some pretty questionable things in realising their vision, like pushing themselves close to death or playing golf :D
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Re: Hall of Acclaim 2019 (poll closed)

Post by Live in Phoenix » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:16 pm

I'll probably edit trivia into this post throughout the year...


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Number of Performer inductees: 240

(Number of Performer inductees in Cleveland's Rock & Roll Hall of Fame: 227. We have more induction years, but they induct more acts per year, so they will eventually overtake our number.)

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Of our non-inductees:

Artists in the top 100 of the AMF All Time Artists List 2019 poll:
Bee Gees (#72)

Additional names (ranked among #102-138):
Gorillaz, Swans, Muse, Mariah Carey;
Whitney Houston, Paul McCartney (and Wings), Stereolab, Lana Del Rey, Spiritualized

(Highlighting the disparity between the two polls, the Four Tops tied for first in their induction here, while they fell out of the top 500 in the Artists poll!)

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Artists with a top 100 all-time album, main page:
Derek and the Dominos (#89 album)

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The Top Artist of the Decade, main page:
1890-1949: Benny Goodman (#7)
(1890s: #1 decade | Sousa's Band)
(1900s: #1 decade | Fisk Jubilee Singers)
(1910s: #1 decade | Original Dixieland Jazz Band)
(1920s: #3 decade | Jelly Roll Morton)
(1930s: #4 decade | Benny Goodman)
(1940s: #5 decade | Louis Jordan)
1950s: Sonny Rollins (#10)
1960s: Nico (#38)
1970s: Rod Stewart (#41)
1980s: Echo and the Bunnymen (#31)
1990s: The Prodigy (#25)
2000s: Yeah Yeah Yeahs (#15)
2010s: Frank Ocean (#3)


Henrik provided the individual decade info for 1890-1949. ("Note: This ranking is based on a somewhat different all-time ranking of albums and songs than the online version.")

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Remaining Top 101-200 Artists of All Time, main page:
102. Frank Ocean
116. Vampire Weekend
117. Bon Iver
127. Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young)
141. Drake
144. Paul McCartney
154. Rod Stewart
165. Spoon
175. Tame Impala
176. Yeah Yeah Yeahs
178. The Prodigy
181. Alice Cooper
185. The xx
189. Herbie Hancock
190. Air [France]
192. Morrissey
194. Manic Street Preachers
198. ANOHNI/Antony and the Johnsons
199. Bee Gees
200. Dire Straits

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