Final 1980s Poll: Instructions and Links

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Final 1980s Poll: Instructions and Links

Post by Moonbeam » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:21 am

We've spent the last 10 months sharing our love of the 80s, and it's time for one final celebration!

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Summary

Before we do, here are some stats from the monthly polls:

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Year Album Ballots Album Votes Song Ballots Song Votes
1980      39           849         47          3584 
1981      40          1149         50          3743
1982      43           885         47          3834
1983      45           901         51          3800
1984      42           838         50          3778
1985      39           736         46          2840
1986      39           702         44          2737
1987      40           716         45          3006
1988      37           708         46          2655
1989      39           758         45          2876
In total, 2,539 albums and 12,525 songs received at least one vote. That's a lot of love! Because of that, halfway through the poll, I asked whether participants were interested in an expanded final field, particularly as there were some questions regarding the new point system and whether it was more closely aligning with the overall AM list. Most seemed to be in favor of the expanded pool, so in this final round, 200 albums and 300 songs will compete for ultimate 80s glory.

Scoring System

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Those who did were not in favor of an expanded pool said they felt it would be more work to rank more albums and songs, with likely little effect on the final outcome. I sympathise with that sentiment, and this is why I have adopted a point system for the final round which does not punish albums or songs for not being included on many ballots. The final rankings will be based on the Simple Ranking System used in sports. Basically, the submitted lists will give me a count of "wins" and "losses" for each pair of albums/songs, and these win and loss totals will be used to determine the final ranking. For example, if Song A and Song B both appear on 20 different lists, and Song A appears higher on 12 of these lists, this system will treat it as if there was a "game" between Song A and Song B in which Song A scored 12 points and Song B scored 8 points. Albums and songs that don't appear on as many lists will tend to have point differentials closer to 0, such that they should cluster toward the middle of the list.

Consequently, I would encourage you to rank as many albums and songs as you feel you know well enough to evaluate, whether you love them or hate them! There is no minimum number of items to rank for either poll. In theory, you could rank just 2 songs or 2 albums and submit your list.

How to participate

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Here are the templates for submission.

Albums
Songs

These Google sheets are set to "View Only" mode. You can make a copy (File -> Make a Copy) or download (File -> Download) so that you can edit them.

Fill in your rankings in column G for each spreadsheet, and then send your ballot to princepoll2016 [at] gmail.com, either as an attachment or as a shared Google sheet.

Alternatively, feel free to simply write a ranked list and send as a PM to me here - I've built up my spreadsheet skills thanks to this poll, so please don't let technology be a barrier to your participation!

I'll be busy teaching an accelerated course in January and early February, so let's set the deadline for February 10th,2020. I know this eats into the next decade poll a little, but I likely won't have time to collate everything before then.

Version questions

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In some cases, a song is popular in various versions, for example the original 1983 release of "Blue Monday" as well as its 1988 reimagination "Blue Monday '88". As I have combined votes across years for songs (and albums), I'd encourage you to rank songs and albums based on your favorite version released in the 80s.

The Contenders

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These are the 200 albums that will compete for the ultimate 80s album title:

ABC - The Lexicon of Love (1982)
AC/DC - Back in Black (1980)
Arthur Russell - World of Echo (1986)
Arvo Pärt - Tabula Rasa (1984)
Au Pairs - Playing with a Different Sex (1981)
Aztec Camera - High Land, Hard Rain (1983)
Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill (1986)
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (1989)
Black Flag - Damaged (1981)
Bob Marley and the Wailers - Uprising (1980)
Brian Eno - David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts (1981)
Bruce Springsteen - The River (1980)
Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska (1982)
Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. (1984)
Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love (1987)
Cocteau Twins - Head Over Heels (1983)
Cocteau Twins - Treasure (1984)
Cowboy Junkies - The Trinity Session (1988)
Crowded House - Crowded House (1986)
Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual (1983)
David Bowie - Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) (1980)
David Bowie - Let's Dance (1983)
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising (1989)
Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (1987)
Def Leppard - Hysteria (1987)
Depeche Mode - Black Celebration (1986)
Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses (1987)
Dick Gaughan - Handful of Earth (1981)
Dire Straits - Making Movies (1980)
Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms (1985)
Donald Fagen - The Nightfly (1982)
Duran Duran - Rio (1982)
Echo and the Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here (1981)
Echo and the Bunnymen - Ocean Rain (1984)
Elvis Costello - King Of America (1986)
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Get Happy!! (1980)
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Trust (1981)
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Imperial Bedroom (1982)
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - Blood and Chocolate (1986)
Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full (1987)
Eric B. & Rakim - Follow the Leader (1988)
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) (1983)
Eurythmics - Touch (1983)
Galaxie 500 - On Fire (1989)
George Michael - Faith (1987)
Glenn Branca - The Ascension (1981)
Go-Go's - Beauty and the Beat (1981)
Grace Jones - Nightclubbing (1981)
Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction (1987)
Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade (1984)
Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising (1985)
INXS - Kick (1987)
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast (1982)
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking (1988)
Janet Jackson - Control (1986)
Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation 1814 (1989)
Japan - Tin Drum (1981)
Joy Division - Closer (1980)
Julee Cruise - Floating into the Night (1989)
Kate Bush - The Dreaming (1982)
Kate Bush - Hounds of Love (1985)
Kate Bush - The Sensual World (1989)
Kraftwerk - Computer World (1981)
Laurie Anderson - Big Science (1982)
Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man (1988)
Lou Reed - New York (1989)
Madonna - Madonna (1983)
Madonna - Like a Virgin (1984)
Madonna - True Blue (1986)
Madonna - Like a Prayer (1989)
Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II (1984)
Metallica - Kill 'Em All (1983)
Metallica - Ride the Lightning (1984)
Metallica - Master of Puppets (1986)
Michael Jackson - Thriller (1982)
Michael Jackson - Bad (1987)
Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime (1984)
Mission of Burma - Signals, Calls and Marches EP (1981)
Morrissey - Viva Hate (1988)
My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything (1988)
N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton (1988)
Neil Young - Freedom (1989)
Neneh Cherry - Raw Like Sushi (1989)
New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies (1983)
New Order - Low-Life (1985)
New Order - Technique (1989)
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Tender Prey (1988)
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine (1989)
Nirvana - Bleach (1989)
Paul Simon - Graceland (1986)
Pet Shop Boys - Actually (1987)
Peter Gabriel - Peter Gabriel (III) (1980)
Peter Gabriel - So (1986)
Philip Glass - Glassworks (1982)
Philip Glass - Koyaanisqatsi (1983)
Pixies - Surfer Rosa (1988)
Pixies - Doolittle (1989)
Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen/Two Wheels Good (1985)
Pretenders - Pretenders (1980)
Pretenders - Learning to Crawl (1984)
Prince - Dirty Mind (1980)
Prince - Controversy (1981)
Prince - 1999 (1982)
Prince - Sign "☮" the Times (1987)
Prince and The Revolution - Purple Rain (1984)
Prince and The Revolution - Around the World in a Day (1985)
Prince and The Revolution - Parade (1986)
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back (1988)
R.E.M. - Chronic Town (EP) (1982)
R.E.M. - Murmur (1983)
R.E.M. - Reckoning (1984)
R.E.M. - Fables of the Reconstruction (1985)
R.E.M. - Lifes Rich Pageant (1986)
R.E.M. - Document (1987)
R.E.M. - Green (1988)
Richard and Linda Thompson - Shoot Out the Lights (1982)
Roxy Music - Avalon (1982)
Run-D.M.C. - Run-D.M.C. (1984)
Run-D.M.C. - Raising Hell (1986)
Rush - Permanent Waves (1980)
Rush - Moving Pictures (1981)
Sade - Diamond Life (1984)
Sinéad O'Connor - The Lion and the Cobra (1987)
Siouxsie and The Banshees - Juju (1981)
Slayer - Reign in Blood (1986)
Soft Cell - Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret (1981)
Sonic Youth - EVOL (1986)
Sonic Youth - Sister (1987)
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (1988)
Squeeze - East Side Story (1981)
Swans - Children of God (1987)
Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring (1986)
Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden (1988)
Talking Heads - Remain in Light (1980)
Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues (1983)
Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense (1984)
Talking Heads - Little Creatures (1985)
Tears for Fears - The Hurting (1983)
Tears for Fears - Songs from the Big Chair (1985)
The Blue Nile - Hats (1989)
The Chameleons - Script of the Bridge (1983)
The Chameleons - Strange Times (1986)
The Clash - Combat Rock (1982)
The Cure - Seventeen Seconds (1980)
The Cure - Faith (1981)
The Cure - Pornography (1982)
The Cure - The Head on the Door (1985)
The Cure - Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me (1987)
The Cure - Disintegration (1989)
The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour (1982)
The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace (1985)
The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms (1980)
The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane (1988)
The Gun Club - Fire of Love (1981)
The Housemartins - London 0 Hull 4 (1986)
The Human League - Dare! (1981)
The Jam - Sound Affects (1980)
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy (1985)
The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash (1985)
The Pogues - If I Should Fall from Grace with God (1988)
The Police - Zenyatta Mondatta (1980)
The Police - Ghost in the Machine (1981)
The Police - Synchronicity (1983)
The Psychedelic Furs - Talk Talk Talk (1981)
The Replacements - Let It Be (1984)
The Replacements - Tim (1985)
The Rolling Stones - Tattoo You (1981)
The Sisters of Mercy - Floodland (1987)
The Smiths - The Smiths (1984)
The Smiths - Hatful of Hollow (1984)
The Smiths - Meat Is Murder (1985)
The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead (1986)
The Smiths - Strangeways, Here We Come (1987)
The Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight (1980)
The Sound - Jeopardy (1980)
The Sound - From the Lions Mouth (1981)
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses (1989)
The The - Soul Mining (1983)
The Traveling Wilburys - Traveling Wilburys, Volume One (1988)
The Velvet Underground - VU (1985)
The Waterboys - This Is the Sea (1985)
This Heat - Deceit (1981)
This Mortal Coil - It'll End in Tears (1984)
Tom Petty - Full Moon Fever (1989)
Tom Waits - Swordfishtrombones (1983)
Tom Waits - Rain Dogs (1985)
Tom Waits - Franks Wild Years (1987)
Tracy Chapman - Tracy Chapman (1988)
U2 - Boy (1980)
U2 - War (1983)
U2 - The Unforgettable Fire (1984)
U2 - The Joshua Tree (1987)
Van Halen - 1984 (1984)
Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes (1983)
Wipers - Youth of America (1981)
X - Los Angeles (1980)
X - Wild Gift (1981)
XTC - English Settlement (1982)
XTC - Skylarking (1986)
Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth (1980)

These are the 300 songs that will compete for the title of ultimate 80s song:

A-ha - "Take On Me" (1984)
ABBA - "The Winner Takes It All" (1980)
ABBA - "The Day Before You Came" (1982)
AC/DC - "You Shook Me All Night Long" (1980)
AC/DC - "Back in Black" (1980)
Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force - "Planet Rock" (1982)
Bangles - "Manic Monday" (1986)
Bangles - "Walk Like an Egyptian" (1986)
Beastie Boys - "No Sleep Till Brooklyn" (1986)
Beastie Boys - "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!)" (1986)
Beastie Boys - "Shake Your Rump" (1989)
Billy Bragg - "A New England" (1983)
Black Flag - "Rise Above" (1981)
Blondie - "Call Me" (1980)
Blondie - "Rapture" (1980)
Bob Marley and the Wailers - "Redemption Song" (1980)
Bob Marley and the Wailers - "Could You Be Loved" (1980)
Bon Jovi - "Livin' on a Prayer" (1986)
Bruce Springsteen - "The River" (1980)
Bruce Springsteen - "Atlantic City" (1982)
Bruce Springsteen - "Dancing in the Dark" (1984)
Bruce Springsteen - "Born in the U.S.A." (1984)
Bruce Springsteen - "I'm on Fire" (1984)
Bruce Springsteen - "Glory Days" (1984)
Bryan Adams - "Summer of '69" (1984)
Cameo - "Word Up!" (1986)
Chris Isaak - "Wicked Game" (1989)
Cocteau Twins - "Lorelei" (1984)
Crowded House - "Don't Dream It's Over" (1986)
Crowded House - "Better Be Home Soon" (1988)
Crowded House - "Into Temptation" (1988)
Cyndi Lauper - "Time After Time" (1983)
Cyndi Lauper - "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" (1983)
Daryl Hall & John Oates - "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)" (1981)
David Bowie - "Ashes to Ashes" (1980)
David Bowie - "Modern Love" (1983)
David Bowie - "Let's Dance" (1983)
David Bowie - "Absolute Beginners" (1986)
David Sylvian and Ryuichi Sakamoto - "Forbidden Colours" (1983)
De La Soul - "Me Myself and I" (1989)
Dead Kennedys - "Holiday in Cambodia" (1980)
Def Leppard - "Pour Some Sugar on Me" (1987)
Depeche Mode - "Just Can't Get Enough" (1981)
Depeche Mode - "Stripped" (1986)
Depeche Mode - "Never Let Me Down Again" (1987)
Depeche Mode - "Personal Jesus" (1989)
Devo - "Whip It" (1980)
Dexys Midnight Runners - "Geno" (1980)
Dexys Midnight Runners - "Come On Eileen" (1982)
Diana Ross - "I'm Coming Out" (1980)
Dinosaur Jr. - "Freak Scene" (1988)
Dire Straits - "Brothers in Arms" (1985)
Dire Straits - "Money for Nothing" (1985)
Don Henley - "The Boys of Summer" (1984)
Duran Duran - "Hungry Like the Wolf" (1982)
Echo and the Bunnymen - "The Killing Moon" (1984)
Elvis Costello - "Beyond Belief" (1982)
Elvis Costello - "Shipbuilding" (1983)
Elvis Costello and The Attractions - "I Want You" (1986)
Enya - "Orinoco Flow (Sail Away)" (1988)
Eric B. & Rakim - "Paid in Full" (1987)
Eric B. & Rakim - "Follow the Leader" (1988)
Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" (1983)
Eurythmics - "Here Comes the Rain Again" (1983)
Faith No More - "Epic" (1989)
Frank Sinatra - "(Theme from) New York, New York" (1980)
Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax" (1983)
Fugazi - "Waiting Room" (1988)
George Clinton - "Atomic Dog" (1982)
Go-Go's - "Our Lips Are Sealed" (1981)
Goran Bregovic - "Ederlezi" (1988)
Grace Jones - "I've Seen That Face Before (Libertango)" (1981)
Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five - "The Message" (1982)
Guns N' Roses - "Sweet Child O' Mine" (1987)
Guns N' Roses - "Welcome to the Jungle" (1987)
Guns N' Roses - "Paradise City" (1987)
Hüsker Dü - "Pink Turns to Blue" (1984)
INXS - "Need You Tonight" (1987)
INXS - "Never Tear Us Apart" (1987)
Iron Maiden - "Hallowed Be Thy Name" (1982)
Janet Jackson - "Rhythm Nation" (1989)
Joan Jett and The Blackhearts - "I Love Rock 'n Roll" (1981)
Joe Jackson - "Steppin' Out" (1982)
John Mellencamp - "Pink Houses" (1983)
Journey - "Don't Stop Believin"' (1981)
Joy Division - "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (1980)
Joy Division - "Atmosphere" (1980)
Joy Division - "Decades" (1980)
Julee Cruise - "Falling" (1989)
Kate Bush - "Running Up That Hill" (1985)
Kate Bush - "Hounds of Love" (1985)
Kate Bush - "Cloudbusting" (1985)
Kate Bush - "This Woman's Work" (1988)
Katrina and The Waves - "Walking on Sunshine" (1983)
Kim Carnes - "Bette Davis Eyes" (1981)
Kraftwerk - "Computer Love" (1981)
Laurie Anderson - "O Superman" (1981)
Leonard Cohen - "Hallelujah" (1984)
Living Colour - "Cult of Personality" (1988)
Madonna - "Borderline" (1983)
Madonna - "Like a Virgin" (1984)
Madonna - "Into the Groove" (1985)
Madonna - "Live to Tell" (1986)
Madonna - "Like a Prayer" (1989)
Marvin Gaye - "Sexual Healing" (1982)
Melle Mel - "White Lines (Don't Don't Do It)" (1983)
Men at Work - "Down Under" (1981)
Metallica - "Master of Puppets" (1986)
Metallica - "One" (1988)
Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean" (1982)
Michael Jackson - "Beat It" (1982)
Michael Jackson - "Thriller" (1982)
Michael Jackson - "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin"' (1982)
Michael Jackson - "Smooth Criminal" (1987)
Michael Jackson - "Man in the Mirror" (1987)
Midnight Oil - "Beds Are Burning" (1987)
Mission of Burma - "That's When I Reach for My Revolver" (1981)
Modern English - "I Melt with You" (1982)
Morrissey - "Everyday Is Like Sunday" (1988)
Morrissey - "Suedehead" (1988)
Motörhead - "Ace of Spades" (1980)
My Bloody Valentine - "You Made Me Realise" (1988)
N.W.A - "Straight Outta Compton" (1988)
N.W.A - "F*** Tha Police" (1988)
Neil Young - "Rockin' in the Free World" (1989)
Neneh Cherry - "Buffalo Stance" (1988)
New Order - "Ceremony" (1981)
New Order - "Temptation" (1982)
New Order - "Blue Monday" (1983)
New Order - "Age of Consent" (1983)
New Order - "Bizarre Love Triangle" (1986)
New Order - "True Faith" (1987)
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - "Tupelo" (1985)
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - "The Mercy Seat" (1988)
Nine Inch Nails - "Head Like a Hole" (1989)
Nirvana - "About a Girl" (1989)
Paul Simon - "Graceland" (1986)
Paul Simon - "You Can Call Me Al" (1986)
Paul Simon - "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" (1986)
Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls" (1985)
Pet Shop Boys - "It's a Sin" (1987)
Pet Shop Boys - "Left to My Own Devices" (1988)
Peter Gabriel - "Games Without Frontiers" (1980)
Peter Gabriel - "In Your Eyes" (1986)
Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer" (1986)
Phil Collins - "In the Air Tonight" (1981)
Pixies - "Where Is My Mind?" (1988)
Pixies - "Gigantic" (1988)
Pixies - "Debaser" (1989)
Pixies - "Monkey Gone to Heaven" (1989)
Pixies - "Here Comes Your Man" (1989)
Pixies - "Hey" (1989)
Pixies - "Wave of Mutilation" (1989)
Prefab Sprout - "Goodbye Lucille #1" (1985)
Pretenders - "Back on the Chain Gang" (1982)
Prince - "When You Were Mine" (1980)
Prince - "Controversy" (1981)
Prince - "Little Red Corvette" (1982)
Prince - "1999" (1982)
Prince - "Sign 'O' the Times" (1987)
Prince - "The Cross" (1987)
Prince and the Revolution - "When Doves Cry" (1984)
Prince and the Revolution - "Purple Rain" (1984)
Prince and the Revolution - "Let's Go Crazy" (1984)
Prince and the Revolution - "Raspberry Beret" (1985)
Prince and the Revolution - "Kiss" (1986)
Prince and the Revolution - "Sometimes It Snows in April" (1986)
Public Enemy - "Bring the Noise" (1987)
Public Enemy - "Rebel Without a Pause" (1987)
Public Enemy - "Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos" (1988)
Public Enemy - "Don't Believe the Hype" (1988)
Public Enemy - "Fight the Power" (1989)
Queen - "Another One Bites the Dust" (1980)
Queen - "Under Pressure" (1981)
R.E.M. - "Radio Free Europe" (1981)
R.E.M. - "Talk About the Passion" (1983)
R.E.M. - "So. Central Rain (I'm Sorry)" (1984)
R.E.M. - "Fall on Me" (1986)
R.E.M. - "It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)" (1987)
R.E.M. - "The One I Love" (1987)
R.E.M. - "Orange Crush" (1988)
Rick James - "Super Freak" (1981)
Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock - "It Takes Two" (1988)
Roxy Music - "More Than This" (1982)
Run-D.M.C. - "It's Like That" (1983)
Run-D.M.C. - "Walk This Way" (1986)
Run-D.M.C. - "It's Tricky" (1986)
Rush - "The Spirit of Radio" (1980)
Rush - "Tom Sawyer" (1981)
Sade - "Smooth Operator" (1984)
Simple Minds - "Don't You (Forget About Me)" (1985)
Slayer - "Raining Blood" (1986)
Soft Cell - "Tainted Love" (1981)
Sonic Youth - "Schizophrenia" (1987)
Sonic Youth - "Teen Age Riot" (1988)
Soul II Soul - "Back to Life (However Do You Want Me)" (1989)
Split Enz - "I Got You" (1980)
Squeeze - "Tempted" (1981)
Stevie Nicks - "Edge of Seventeen (Just Like the White Winged Dove)" (1981)
Stevie Wonder - "Master Blaster (Jammin')" (1980)
Suzanne Vega - "Marlene on the Wall" (1985)
Suzanne Vega - "Luka" (1987)
Talk Talk - "It's My Life" (1984)
Talk Talk - "Life's What You Make It" (1985)
Talk Talk - "Living in Another World" (1986)
Talk Talk - "The Rainbow" (1988)
Talking Heads - "Once in a Lifetime" (1980)
Talking Heads - "The Great Curve" (1980)
Talking Heads - "Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)" (1980)
Talking Heads - "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983)
Talking Heads - "Burning Down the House" (1983)
Talking Heads - "Road to Nowhere" (1985)
Talking Heads - "And She Was" (1985)
Tears for Fears - "Mad World" (1982)
Tears for Fears - "Shout" (1984)
Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" (1985)
Tears for Fears - "Head Over Heels" (1985)
The B-52's - "Roam" (1989)
The Church - "Under the Milky Way" (1988)
The Clash - "Rock the Casbah" (1982)
The Clash - "Should I Stay or Should I Go" (1982)
The Cult - "She Sells Sanctuary" (1985)
The Cure - "A Forest" (1980)
The Cure - "Charlotte Sometimes" (1981)
The Cure - "The Love Cats" (1983)
The Cure - "Close to Me" (1985)
The Cure - "In Between Days" (1985)
The Cure - "Just Like Heaven" (1987)
The Cure - "Lovesong" (1989)
The Cure - "Pictures of You" (1989)
The Cure - "Lullaby" (1989)
The Fall - "The Classical" (1982)
The Human League - "Don't You Want Me" (1981)
The Jam - "Going Underground" (1980)
The Jam - "That's Entertainment" (1980)
The Jam - "Town Called Malice" (1982)
The Jesus and Mary Chain - "Just Like Honey" (1985)
The La's - "There She Goes" (1988)
The Pogues - "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" (1985)
The Pogues - "Fairytale of New York" (1987)
The Police - "Don't Stand So Close to Me" (1980)
The Police - "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" (1981)
The Police - "Every Breath You Take" (1983)
The Primitives - "Crash" (1988)
The Proclaimers - "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)" (1988)
The Psychedelic Furs - "Pretty in Pink" (1981)
The Replacements - "Unsatisfied" (1984)
The Replacements - "I Will Dare" (1984)
The Replacements - "Bastards of Young" (1985)
The Rolling Stones - "Start Me Up" (1981)
The Smiths - "This Charming Man" (1983)
The Smiths - "How Soon Is Now?" (1984)
The Smiths - "What Difference Does It Make?" (1984)
The Smiths - "Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want" (1984)
The Smiths - "William, It Was Really Nothing" (1984)
The Smiths - "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side" (1985)
The Smiths - "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out" (1986)
The Smiths - "Bigmouth Strikes Again" (1986)
The Smiths - "Panic" (1986)
The Smiths - "I Know It's Over" (1986)
The Smiths - "The Queen Is Dead (Take Me Back To Dear Old Blighty)" (1986)
The Smiths - "Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me" (1987)
The Smiths - "Girlfriend in a Coma" (1987)
The Specials - "Ghost Town" (1981)
The Stone Roses - "Fools Gold" (1989)
The Stone Roses - "I Am the Resurrection" (1989)
The Stone Roses - "I Wanna Be Adored" (1989)
The Stranglers - "Golden Brown" (1981)
The Sugarcubes - "Birthday" (1987)
The The - "This Is the Day" (1983)
The Traveling Wilburys - "End of the Line" (1988)
The Traveling Wilburys - "Handle with Care" (1988)
The Waterboys - "The Whole of the Moon" (1985)
This Mortal Coil - "Song to the Siren" (1983)
Tina Turner - "What's Love Got to Do with It" (1984)
Tom Petty - "Free Fallin"' (1989)
Tom Petty - "I Won't Back Down" (1989)
Tom Petty - "Runnin' Down a Dream" (1989)
Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers - "Don't Come Around Here No More" (1985)
Tom Tom Club - "Genius of Love" (1981)
Tom Waits - "Downtown Train" (1985)
Tom Waits - "Time" (1985)
Tom Waits - "Jockey Full of Bourbon" (1985)
Toto - "Africa" (1982)
Tracy Chapman - "Fast Car" (1988)
U2 - "I Will Follow" (1980)
U2 - "Sunday Bloody Sunday" (1983)
U2 - "New Year's Day" (1983)
U2 - "Pride (In the Name of Love)" (1984)
U2 - "Bad" (1984)
U2 - "With or Without You" (1987)
U2 - "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" (1987)
U2 - "Where the Streets Have No Name" (1987)
U2 - "Desire" (1988)
Van Halen - "Jump" (1983)
Violent Femmes - "Blister in the Sun" (1983)
Violent Femmes - "Add It Up" (1983)
Wham! - "Careless Whisper" (1984)
Wipers - "Youth of America" (1981)
XTC - "Dear God" (1986)

A Spotify playlist of the 298 available songs is below. I've included YouTube links to the unavailable songs by My Bloody Valentine and Tom Tom Club in the list above.


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TLDR:

200 albums. 300 songs. Rank as many (or as few) as you like and submit your lists to princepoll2016 [at] gmail.com by February 10th, 2020.

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Post by DaveC » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:41 am

Had to lookup TLDR, turned out I already had. Thanks for this Moonbeam. Even with spreadsheet skills it is a lot of work.

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Post by mileswide » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:38 pm

Radical lists! Surreal to think that everything from Sinatra to Public Enemy via Arvo Pärt and Swans are covered in one decade!

Today I've started my daily plan of listening to 4 albums and 6 songs from these, can't guarantee I'll keep that up but staying along those lines should allow me to complete this with plenty of time before the deadline...
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Post by Listyguy » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:17 am

Sorry if this was already answered somewhere and I just missed it, but how were the wildcards decided? Were the points normalized by votes cast in that year?

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Post by Listyguy » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:38 am

Also, it looks like 1982 has 17 and 19, but no 18? Not sure if this is a numbering mistake or if the wrong album was added to the final round.

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Post by Moonbeam » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:28 am

Listyguy wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:38 am
Also, it looks like 1982 has 17 and 19, but no 18? Not sure if this is a numbering mistake or if the wrong album was added to the final round.
The wild card points were equal to the number of accumulated points divided by the number of ballots. For songs that had votes for multiple years, I added votes to the most voted year or the year with the AM listing. For example, suppose a song got 150 points in 1982 as a result of 8 votes and 50 points from 1983 as a result of 3 votes. The votes were combined so that the song had 200 points, and the wild card points is equal to 200/(total # of 1982 song ballots + 3). The +3 comes from the fact that I transferred the votes from 1983 to the 1982 poll.

The year place for The Lexicon of Love and Chronic Town was a mistake! I had forgotten to add someone's ballot that year but didn't update the year places.

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Post by Listyguy » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:05 am

Awesome, thanks Moonbeam!

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Post by Rob » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:57 pm

Damn, 300 songs. If that was mentioned before I missed it. It's cool that it encompasses so much, but I feel it is a bit daunting to rank twice as much as usual, especially with this whole end of decade thing coming up, as well as that the eighties have more songs than other decades that I simply don't have burned in my memory. At least the deadline is two months of. I'll have to see if I can make it work.

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Post by Moonbeam » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:31 am

I feel a bit like the teacher who had bad reputation for assigning too much homework!

I am more than happy if people want to submit lists based on just the albums/songs they know. I’m not expecting anyone to listen to all of the albums and songs, or so any additional listening if they don’t want to.

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:46 pm

Absent from last time (which was a top 150):

Au Pairs – Headache for Michelle
Leonard Cohen – Everybody Knows
Ry Cooder – Paris, Texas
The Cure - Plainsong
The Gun Club – She’s Like Heroin to Me
Nick Nicely – Hilly Fields
Arvo Pärt – Cantus in Memory of Benjamin Britten
Astor Piazzolla - Oblivion
Prince – I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man
Ramones – The KKK Took My Baby Away
Run-D.M.C. – Rock Box
Paul Simon – The Boy in the Bubble
Soft Verdict – Struggle for Pleasure
Bruce Springsteen – Brilliant Disguise
Tom Waits – Innocent When You Dream

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Post by Romain » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:05 pm

Moonbeam wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:31 am
I feel a bit like the teacher who had bad reputation for assigning too much homework!

I am more than happy if people want to submit lists based on just the albums/songs they know. I’m not expecting anyone to listen to all of the albums and songs, or so any additional listening if they don’t want to.
Don't worry!
I just finished my first step, putting all the songs in three columns!

I love it! I love it!
I like it, but no more than that!
And I don't like it!

I end up with almost a third of the songs in each group... but it makes the classification much easier afterwards. :mrgreen:

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Post by Safetycat » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:21 am

I've posted lists for all the years, but I won't be able to commit to a list for the final game. Going to be travelling and working a lot next couple of months and don't have the time.

Thanks for a great game, though!
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Post by Jap123 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:13 am

Can we post lists on here or is it better to email them?

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Post by Moonbeam » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:22 am

Safetycat wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:21 am
I've posted lists for all the years, but I won't be able to commit to a list for the final game. Going to be travelling and working a lot next couple of months and don't have the time.

Thanks for a great game, though!
No problem! Enjoy your travels!

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Post by Moonbeam » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:23 am

Jap123 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:13 am
Can we post lists on here or is it better to email them?
You can send them to me via PM, but I think it's best not to post your lists publicly, as I'd like the final results to have some element of surprise.

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Post by Henry » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:55 am

There were some decent albums that made it to the decade poll in 2013, and did not fare so well this time around, including":

6/98. (my decade rating/decade poll rating) Joe Jackson Body and Soul
12/150. Whitney Houston Whitney
51/112. Marillion Misplaced Childhood
65/145. Living Colour Vivid
67/135. Rick James Street Songs
74/122. Simple Minds New Gold Dream (81-82-83-84)
82/108. Mary Margaret O'Hara Miss America
89/139. Echo and the Bunnymen Porcupine
109/146. Prince Lovesexy

Most disappointing is the decline for Joe Jackson' "Body and Soul" which actually made it to the top 100 of the decade last time.

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Post by DaveC » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:31 am

Henry wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:55 am
There were some decent albums that made it to the decade poll in 2013, and did not fare so well this time around, including":

6/98. (my decade rating/decade poll rating) Joe Jackson Body and Soul
12/150. Whitney Houston Whitney
51/112. Marillion Misplaced Childhood
65/145. Living Colour Vivid
67/135. Rick James Street Songs
74/122. Simple Minds New Gold Dream (81-82-83-84)
82/108. Mary Margaret O'Hara Miss America
89/139. Echo and the Bunnymen Porcupine
109/146. Prince Lovesexy

Most disappointing is the decline for Joe Jackson' "Body and Soul" which actually made it to the top 100 of the decade last time.
"Body and Soul" and "Miss America" are currently in my to 100 of all time, so they will be missed. Also in my top 100 AT is "Life's a Riot with Spy vs. Spy", but I expect that everyone has a few disappointments.

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Post by mileswide » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:36 am

DaveC wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:31 am
Also in my top 100 AT is "Life's a Riot with Spy vs. Spy", but I expect that everyone has a few disappointments.
Also stunned that not a single Bragg album made the cut, despite me having each in my top 5 for the relevant year! I would've had Almost Blue instead of Imperial Bedroom and The Gift rather than Sound Affects but I know those ain't exactly consensus choices...
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Post by Nassim » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:28 pm

Looking at the album list, I have listened to most of them but so many fall in the "I have heard that but have no recollection of it" category that I have no idea how I'm going to rank them (and also am mad at myself for not taking quick notes after listening to them).

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Post by Romain » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:12 pm

Ouf, I just I sent you the list of songs.

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Post by Andre » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:27 pm

Moonbeam, I missed the whole year-by-year polls, but hopefully you let me still join the finals for "my" decade?
I might not manage to vote for the albums, but the songs should definitely be possible.

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Post by CupOfDreams » Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:29 am

Lists sent.

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Post by Hymie » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:51 am

Just sent my song list.

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Post by Moonbeam » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:07 pm

Andre wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:27 pm
Moonbeam, I missed the whole year-by-year polls, but hopefully you let me still join the finals for "my" decade?
I might not manage to vote for the albums, but the songs should definitely be possible.
Absolutely! All are welcome!

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Post by Moonbeam » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:09 pm

I have received 8 album lists and 11 song lists so far.

Albums:

Bang Jan
bonnielaurel
Cold Butterfly
CupOfDreams
Gillingham
Henry
Holden
Myself

Songs:

Bang Jan
bonnielaurel
CupOfDreams
Henry
Hymie
Listyguy
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Neil
phil
Romain
StevieFan13

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Post by FrankLotion » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:15 am

Trying to listen to all 300 songs before I finish my list, I’ll have it in before the deadline!

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Post by babydoll » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:11 pm

I'm definitely submitting the albums and songs list, but it'll be towards the very end. I'm currently at the 155 albums mark and hoping to get some more before the deadline.

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Post by Listyguy » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:44 pm

I sent my album list

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Post by Moonbeam » Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:46 am

There are now 15 song lists:

Bang Jan
bonnielaurel
CupOfDreams
Dan
DaveC
Henry
Hymie
Listyguy
Live in Phoenix
mileswide
Neil
phil
Romain
sonofsamiam
StevieFan13

14 album lists have come in:

Bang Jan
bonnielaurel
carlos74
Cold Butterfly
CupOfDreams
DaveC
Gillingham
Henry
Holden
Listyguy
Live in Phoenix
mileswide
Myself
sonofsamiam

Please don't be dissuaded by the larger pool of albums and songs. Any number of albums and/or songs greater than 1 on your ballot is welcome!

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Post by Bang Jan » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:14 am

Moonbeam wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:46 am
Please don't be dissuaded by the larger pool of albums and songs. Any number of albums and/or songs greater than 1 on your ballot is welcome!
How many people have ranked all 200 albums and/or all 300 songs?
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Post by Moonbeam » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:53 am

Bang Jan wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:14 am
Moonbeam wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:46 am
Please don't be dissuaded by the larger pool of albums and songs. Any number of albums and/or songs greater than 1 on your ballot is welcome!
How many people have ranked all 200 albums and/or all 300 songs?
Got another song and album ballot thanks to Chris K.

14 of the 16 song ballots so far have included ranks for all 300 songs. 9 of the 15 album ballots have ranks for all 200 albums.

That said, there shouldn't be any pressure on anyone to fill a complete ballot. I might not be able to get there, especially for the albums poll!

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Post by Safetycat » Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:38 am

had some renewed energy for ranking these so im going to try get a song ballot in before the 10th. probably won't be complete. no album list because I'm not much of an album listener.
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Post by Elder » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:02 am

I sent my list of sounds :music-listening: :music-listening: :music-listening: :music-rockon:

The amazing thing about making these lists is that I just sent them and I already want to make changes about two hours later
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Post by Safetycat » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:46 am

Safetycat wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:38 am
had some renewed energy for ranking these so im going to try get a song ballot in before the 10th. probably won't be complete. no album list because I'm not much of an album listener.
Disregard this, I was apparently feeling way too optimistic about my available free time a few days ago. Absolutely no chance.
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Post by Andre » Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:42 pm

Hey Moonbeam,

during the past weeks I listened to all 300 songs that reached the final round of the 80s poll.
That was quite some work, but also a lot of fun.

I just sent you the Excel file with my favorite 100 songs ranked in column G. Let me know if this is OK.
And hopefully my #1 will make it to the top 10!

Andre

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Post by Elder » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:31 am

It's been less than a week since I sent my list and changed my mind about a lot of it, "Shake Your Rump" and "Monkey Gone to Heaven" have improved.
Some bands in which I realized that the name of the band were bigger than the songs lost some positions.
And, mainly, I have a huge difficulty in classifying the bottom positions of the list.
Anyway, now just wait for the results...
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Post by Moonbeam » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:05 am

Elder wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:31 am
It's been less than a week since I sent my list and changed my mind about a lot of it, "Shake Your Rump" and "Monkey Gone to Heaven" have improved.
Some bands in which I realized that the name of the band were bigger than the songs lost some positions.
And, mainly, I have a huge difficulty in classifying the bottom positions of the list.
Anyway, now just wait for the results...
It's not too much work to re-enter your list if you'd like to submit a change.

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Post by Moonbeam » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:21 am

I have gotten album lists from 22 members so far:

babydoll
Bang Jan
bonnielaurel
Brad
carlos74
Chris K.
ColdButterfly
CupOfDreams
DaveC
FrankLotion
Gillingham
Henry
Holden
Listyguy
Live in Phoenix
maverick470
mileswide
Myself
Nassim
Rocky Raccoon
rumpdoll
sonofsamiam

I have song lists from 27 members:

Andre
babydoll
Bang Jan
bonnielaurel
Brad
Chris K.
CupOfDreams
Dan
DaveC
Elder
FrankLotion
Henry
Hymie
Listyguy
Live in Phoenix
maverick470
mileswide
Myself
Nassim
Neil
phil
Rob
Romain
rumpdoll
sonofsamiam
StevieFan13
The_Claw

Keep those lists rolling in!

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Post by Nassim » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:58 am

Andre wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:42 pm
Hey Moonbeam,

during the past weeks I listened to all 300 songs that reached the final round of the 80s poll.
That was quite some work, but also a lot of fun.

I just sent you the Excel file with my favorite 100 songs ranked in column G. Let me know if this is OK.
And hopefully my #1 will make it to the top 10!

Andre
If you have the time you should rank all the songs you have an opinion on. Because of the win/loss calculation used by Moonbeam, even just putting the song you dislike the most at 101 will help your top 100 more than not ranking it.
Basically, your #100, which is still a song you liked more than 200 others, is now losing against 99 songs and has no bonus against the 200 others so you're not doing it any favor !

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Post by PlasticRam » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:43 pm

I sent a private message containing my album list to Moonbeam, but it's stuck in my outbox :(
I feel like that

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Post by Rob » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:44 pm

PlasticRam wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:43 pm
I sent a private message containing my album list to Moonbeam, but it's stuck in my outbox :(
Moonbeam put his e-mail address in the instructions.

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Post by PlasticRam » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:50 pm

Rob wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:44 pm
PlasticRam wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:43 pm
I sent a private message containing my album list to Moonbeam, but it's stuck in my outbox :(
Moonbeam put his e-mail address in the instructions.
Thanks, done.
I feel like that

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Post by Andre » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:45 pm

Nassim wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:58 am
Andre wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:42 pm
Hey Moonbeam,

during the past weeks I listened to all 300 songs that reached the final round of the 80s poll.
That was quite some work, but also a lot of fun.

I just sent you the Excel file with my favorite 100 songs ranked in column G. Let me know if this is OK.
And hopefully my #1 will make it to the top 10!

Andre
If you have the time you should rank all the songs you have an opinion on. Because of the win/loss calculation used by Moonbeam, even just putting the song you dislike the most at 101 will help your top 100 more than not ranking it.
Basically, your #100, which is still a song you liked more than 200 others, is now losing against 99 songs and has no bonus against the 200 others so you're not doing it any favor !
Moonbeam, just resent my list to you as discussed and promised. :music-rockon:

Nassim, thanks a lot for pointing that out. I now ranked 150 songs #1 to #150 and put the other half on #151. :music-guitarred:

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Post by Jirin » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:31 am

Sent my album list right under deadline, won't be doing a song list.

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If it's ok, can I ask for a 24hr extension?

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Post by Moonbeam » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:12 am

Dexter wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:34 am
If it's ok, can I ask for a 24hr extension?
Why not? A few other people have sent files that aren't working for me, so try to get your list in!

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Post by Moonbeam » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:12 am

Up to 30 album ballots and 34 song ballots now. The 90s poll had 29 and 30 and the 00s poll had 24 and 24, so this is good!

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Post by Moonbeam » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:53 am

32 and 36 now. Woo hoo!

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Post by mileswide » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:20 am

PlasticRam wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:43 pm
I sent a private message containing my album list to Moonbeam, but it's stuck in my outbox :(
This won't be relevant to you now but, as far as I understand, a message on here will stay in your outbox until the recipient logs in next. While it's not massively reassuring to see your PM just sitting there, it will eventually get to its destination! :angry-tappingfoot:
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