The complete schedule for the two options would be:
- 2020 1970s
- 2021 1960s
- 2022 pre-1960s
- 2023 2010s
- 2020 2010s
- 2021 1970s
- 2022 1960s
- 2023 pre-1960s
Or, since the pre-1960s usually have less participation, we can do a pre-1960s poll with a simpler format (one for albums and one for songs without the year-per-month format) the same year of the 1960s poll. But we could decide it later. Now we should vote between 1970s and 2010s for next year.
If the option A wins we could also do a poll next year for the 2010s decade with the simple format (one for albums and one for songs).
Moonbeam wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:34 pm I'm not sure yet! Normally, it would be the 1970s, but the 2010s could also be done as the decade will have finished. I know some people have said they want to wait until 2021 to do the 2010s, but the way these polls work, I think enough time would have passed by the time we get to the later years - the 2019 poll would be done in November, 2020, which I feel is enough time to let those releases settle.
Brad wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:49 pm Personally, I'd rather do 70's then '60's then pre-'60's and wait until 2023 to do 2010s but I realize I'm more patient in my old age than many here. Doing the 2010's in 2020 would put us in line to do the same decade again 4 years later.
Just a notion I wanted to throw in the ring to see if anyone else agrees.
Rob wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:40 am For selfish reasons I wanted to do 2010's now. For me, after the eighties, I have gone full circle with these polls. Did one for each decade, except the 2010's. I always listen to a lot from the poll's decade, but am not going to do that once again now I have all of them. The 2010's would be a good cap. That's just me though.
Live in Phoenix wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:57 pm My "con" argument against the '10s being cycled next is that we will have just done a substantial '10s poll (and would we cycle back normally to the '10s again in 2023 -- or much later?). My "pro" argument is that if a bunch of '10s polls would risk being a retread, another '70s poll could certainly be called a retread; plus someone like me has not done a deep dive into the '10s, which our year-long poll would help remedy.
If we kept with the normal cycle, the '10s would come up in 2023, which doesn't seem like a long time to wait, so I'm leaning toward waiting until then.
Brad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:10 pm Maybe the answer then is to utilize the "end of decade" poll for the 2010's to satisfy those looking to summarize their favorites from the recent past, then continue to treat the year-by-year decade polls in the same order we have always done, with the 2010's coming up in 2023 (it may seem like a long way away, but trust me it's not!).
I guess I'm just furthering my own case here, but is it really necessary to break stride with how we've proceeded over the last 12+ years? No matter how many times we go over each decade (I've been through two 70's polls already), I find there's ALWAYS more to explore from our past, if you're willing to open up a bit.
Listyguy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:15 pm I strongly agree with this point. There's a lot of great music to be found in the lower ranks of the AM lists that I certainly haven't heard yet, and having a focus of a given year or decade really makes it easier to focus on that. And I didn't even mention unranked stuff...
Cold Butterfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:33 pm I looked through the Old Forum a while back, and for the 2000s they did a poll for 2000s albums and songs after the decade ended, and waited until the cycle of albums came back to the 2000s a year later for the cycle of decade polls. I feel like we should do the same thing here. Plus, it'd be interesting to get a perspective on what albums from the decade we loved now, and how tastes changed by the time 2023 rolled around. I don't think we should wait until 2021 to release the first 2010s poll (I wouldn't be too happy about that personally). Let's do the 70s once the 80s poll ends, as expected.
DaveC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:22 pm I'm being persuaded that it is wise to hold back on the 2010s until 2023, I feel that my 2010s lists will be rather preliminary at the end of this year, but maybe a breathing space will provide a better perspective than launching straight into year polls. Anyway, I do love the music of the 1970s.
Fred wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:05 pm 00's or the freakin' 70's. A hard choice. If we do the 00's we get the opportunity to become frontrunners on the web! Also remember that for every good song of the 00's there are 5-10 from the 70's. It will be almost SHOCKING diving right into the year 1970 now in january. Jobim, Rodriguez, Velvets!
Father2TheMan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:33 am As to the "What next?" debate:
I vote we let EOD take care of the 2010s for now and do the 2010s year by year in 2023.
I personally would like to do the 2000s next for year by year since I started to get "out of touch" musically around then and it would force me to do some deep diving into the decade's tunes.
But I am sure I would still make some new discoveries from the 70s if we did them next.
Another option would be to do a pre-1950 poll...but I am guessing there is less interest from most of the forum in those years.
Nassim wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:45 pmThat's the other way round for me, the 70s is by far the decade I like the least (if we start with the 60s to the 2010s). There are obviously a couple exceptions a year, but the 71 to 76 stretch is the crossing of the desert for me.
The 00s though ? Bet there are a few years I can come up with a top 30 albums without going below 4 stars.
Fred wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:09 pm Yeah, maybe we should do 2010s first. Dig up every future classic possible. Then let it rest a few years and then re-do it. The 1970s don't go anywhere.
For fun or reflection perhaps, the number of songs from each 70s and 10s year on my ever evolving top thousand list:
1970: 49 songs
2014: 2 [The 'Interstellar' (indian) drone chase song ("Cornfield Chase" by Hans Zimmer) and "Ben's My Friend" by Sun Kil Moon]
2018: 1 (sorry, Frank, MGMT and Beach House, even Julia Holter is not very interresting anymore...)
2019: 1 (a jazz tune so it doesn't really count...)
PS. "Rock by older people was often made when they were young". "Youth is wasted on the young" (Greenberg)
Brad wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:02 pm I don't know who's decision this is ultimately, but here's how the schedule would lay out if we continued doing this the same way we have since the inception of the yearly decade polls:
2020 - 1970s
2021 - 1960s
2022 - 1900-1959
2023 - 2010s
2024 - 2000s
2025 - 1990s
2026 - 1980s
2027 - 1970s
2028 - 1960s
2029 - 1900-1959
2030 - 2020s
Then global destruction.
Honorio wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:35 am My option would also be the 2010s first. In fact I half assumed that it was going to be like that and I thought it was my opportunity to have a much delayed catch-up with the decade. But I could perfectly wait until 2023 for that. Anyway I'm not going to participate on the 1970s, 1960s and 1950s poll if this is the final decision, I'm not participating on the 1990s and 1980s. I'm an old member of the forum and I already participated twice. I enjoyed it a lot the first time and even the second but I prefer to dedicate my spare listening time to other things/games.
Since the opinions on this thread are quite divided (the first ones were mostly keen to the 1970s but lately some people chose the 2010s) maybe the best way to decide is to make a poll on the subject. Moreover this thread is for 1989, maybe it's better to continue with the comments on an specific thread.
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