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Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:21 pm
by Rob
Hello everyone, this is indeed the reveal of the rankings of the first 100 songs that appeared in the Biggest Fan game on this forum.
What is Biggest Fan? That is a little game we play here, based on the All-Time Song Poll of last year. In that game, people could vote for their favorite songs of all time, up to a top 1000. Although a lot of songs got multiple votes, there were still a lot of songs that only managed to get one vote. The lonely tunes were then used for this Biggest Fan game, where each day there is a random song from that list is picked. People can than give them a grade and average rating of these votes will be revealed in this topic, ranked from lowest to highest. The plan is to update this top 100 every time we did another 100. People are still allowed to vote for songs that have already appeared here and can also change their votes, so list has the potential to remain dynamic.

If all goes according to plan I will put out the whole top 100 this weekend: tomorrow more than today.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:26 pm
by Rob
At the bottom we find a surprising amount of big hits, party tracks and songs with a positive attitude. What kind of people are we?

100. LMFAO – Yes
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Year: 2009
From the album: Party Rock
Biggest Fan: Acroamor (#422)
Points: 2,375
Votes: 20

99. Fergie, featuring Ludacris – Glamorous
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Year: 2006
From the album: The Dutchess
Biggest Fan: Neil (#862)
Points: 3,235294
Votes: 17

98. The Weeknd – Tell Your Friends
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Year: 2015
From the album: Beauty Behind the Madness
Biggest Fan: PlasticRam (#657)
Points: 3,529412
Votes: 17

97. John Mayer – Love on the Weekend
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Year: 2016
Album: The Search for Everything
Biggest Fan: Neil (#261)
Points: 3,615385
Votes: 13

96. The Chainsmokers & Coldplay – Something Just Like This
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Year: 2017
From the album: Memories Do Not Open (by The Chainsmokers) & the EP Kaleidoscope (by Coldplay)
Biggest Fan: Kaue (#259)
Points: 3,76087
Votes: 23

95. Britney Spears – Everytime
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Year: 2003
Album: In the Zone
Biggest Fan: Depeche Mode (#453)
Points: 3,9
Votes: 15

94. Os Paralamas Do Sucesso – Lanterna dos Afogados
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Year: 1989
Album: Big Bang
Biggest Fan: Elder (#278)
Points: 4,107142857
Votes: 14

93. Mall Grab – B.F.O.D.A.A.S.
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Year: 2017
EP: Pool Party
Biggest Fan: Krurze (#940)
Points: 4,1875
Votes: 16

92. Oliver Koletzki – lyéwaye (Hatzler Remix)
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Year: 2015
EP: lyéwaye Remixed
Biggest Fan: Krurze (#538)
Points: 4,366666667
Votes: 15

91. Riot – You Burn in Me
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Year: 1983
From the album: Born in America
Biggest Fan: Andyramones1234 (#74)
Points: 4,375
Votes: 16

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:35 pm
by acroamor
Proud to have nominated the track placing dead last!

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:56 pm
by Rob
In this group the shortest song, perhaps the strangest song and my favorite discovery (yes, the one at 86):

90. Budka Suflera - Jolka, Jolka pamiętasz
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Year: 1982
Released as a single.
Biggest Fan: Depeche Mode (#13)
Points: 4,4
Votes: 10

89. Inglebirds – Intro
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Year: 2014
Album: Big Bad Birds
Biggest Fan: Krurze (#830)
Points: 4,46875
Votes: 16

88. Klaatu – Long Live Politzania
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Year: 1977
From the album: Hope
Biggest Fan: Zombeels (#839)
Points: 4,605263158
Votes: 19

87. Guns ‘N Roses – Prostitute
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Year: 2008
Album: Chinese Democracy
Biggest Fan: Live in Phoenix (#727)
Points: 4,666666667
Votes: 15

86. Sun City Girls – The Shining Path
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Year: 1990
From the album: Torch of the Mystics
Biggest Fan: Jackson (#860)
Points: 4,738095238
Votes: 21

85. Circle Jerks – Red Tape
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Year: 1980
Album: Group Sex
Biggest Fan: Brad (#509)
Points: 4,75
Votes: 14

83 (tie). Tyler, The Creator, featuring Frank Ocean & Steve Lacy – 911/Mr. Lonely
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Year: 2017
Album: Flower Boy
Biggest Fan: Setherex (#204)
Points: 4,833333
Votes: 15

83 (tie). The Format – She Doesn’t Get It
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Year: 2006
Album: Dog Problems
Biggest Fan: Wezzo (#249)
Points: 4,833333
Votes: 15

82. John Mellencamp – What If I Came Knocking
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Year: 1993
Album: Human Wheels
Biggest Fan: Neil (#664)
Points: 4,866666667
Votes: 15

81. Kevin Coyne – I Only Want to See You Smile
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Year: 1978
From the album: Dynamite Daze
Biggest Fan: Antonius (#912)
Points: 4,882352941
Votes: 17

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 5:39 pm
by Henrik
I only expected a top 100 list of the averages, so this countdown with images and all is a very pleasant surprise. Great job, Rob!

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 5:45 pm
by Henrik
In addition to my top 10 in each monthly topic (I still need to make April’s top 10) I plan to go back and rate anything that is listed here with an average above a certain threshold. Perhaps 5.5, since that is the midpoint of the scale, right?

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 6:18 pm
by Rob
Henrik wrote:In addition to my top 10 in each monthly topic (I still need to make April’s top 10) I plan to go back and rate anything that is listed here with an average above a certain threshold. Perhaps 5.5, since that is the midpoint of the scale, right?
Yes, but why only those? To support the songs that are already among the most loved?
There are 54 songs ranking 5,5 or higher, by the way, so from that perspective it's just little than half of them.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 6:24 pm
by Rob
This group contains the longest song, some hip-hop and a song from one of the top 100 albums of all time.

80. Exuma – Love Is Strange
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Year: 1973
From the album: Life
Biggest Fan: PlasticRam (#380)
Points: 4,90625
Votes: 16

79. Puddle of Mud – Blurry
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Year: 2001
From the album: Come Clean
Biggest Fan: Whuntva (#174)
Points: 4,913043
Votes: 23

78. Derek and the Dominos – It’s Too Late
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Year: 1970
From the album: Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs
Biggest Fan: BryanBehar (#937)
Points: 4,916667
Votes: 18

77. Judas Priest – United
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Year: 1980
Album: British Steel
Biggest Fan: Slick (#754)
Points: 4,933333333
Votes: 15

76. Erik B. & Rakim – My Melody
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Year: 1987
Album: Paid in Full
Biggest Fan: Bootsy (#117)
Points: 4,964285714
Votes: 14

75. Organized Konfusion – Bring It On
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Year: 1994
From the album: Stress: The Extinction Agenda
Biggest Fan: Setherex (#877)
Points: 5,029411765
Votes: 17

74. Archie Shepp – Hipnosis
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Year: 1975
Album: A Sea of Faces
Biggest Fan: Fred (#123)
Points: 5,033333333
Votes: 15

73. Raul Seixas – Tente Outra Vez
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Year: 1975
Album: Novo Aeon
Biggest Fan: Elder (#566)
Points: 5,038461538
Votes: 13

72. Flobots – Handlebars
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Year: 2007
Album: Fight with Tools
Biggest Fan: StevieFan13 (#983)
Points: 5,0625
Votes: 16

I know there are only 9 here, but #71 is a tie with #70, so will appear in the next update. That update will be tomorrow.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 6:44 pm
by Live in Phoenix
I'm surprised how many votes there are!

The #76 photo is Public Enemy...

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 7:27 pm
by Romain
Thanks Rob, excellent presentation.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 7:43 pm
by Henrik
Rob wrote:
Henrik wrote:In addition to my top 10 in each monthly topic (I still need to make April’s top 10) I plan to go back and rate anything that is listed here with an average above a certain threshold. Perhaps 5.5, since that is the midpoint of the scale, right?
Yes, but why only those? To support the songs that are already among the most loved?
There are 45 songs ranking 5,5 or higher, by the way, so from that perspective it's just little than half of them.
I want to influence the top of the list, but limit the work. Also, the highly rated songs that I didn’t put in my top 10s are the ones that most deserve another listen, I suppose. But since the songs were not in my top 10s, presumably I will decrease their averages, not support them.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:37 am
by Rob
Live in Phoenix wrote:I'm surprised how many votes there are!
Yes, it sometimes seems there are little votes for a song, because few people post on the day a song appear, but over the course of a few days and sometimes weeks the votes keep dripping in. Although there are very few voters who voted for everything.
The #76 photo is Public Enemy...
Woops, as someone who is not that familiar with the looks of Erik B. & Rakim I looked out for the huge necklaces, but somehow missed that the necklace on this picture was Flavour Flav's iconic clock. Very stupid. Fixed it.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 11:59 am
by Rob
This update contains an infernal journey, two bands using Satanic imagery while dealing with death and an unconventional Christ figure. Obviously we are getting higher up in our list.

Apologies for some of the blurry photo's coming from nineties music video's. Isn't there a business for restoring and remastering these?

70 (tie). C.A. Quintet – Trip Thru Hell, Pt. 2
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Year: 1969
From the album: Trip Thru Hell
Biggest Fan: Sofofsamiam (#502)
Points: 5,125
Votes: 15

70 (tie). Aphex Twin – On
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Year: 1993
EP: On
Biggest Fan: Ordinaryperson (#353)
Points: 5,125
Votes: 16


69. blink-182 – Stay Together for the Kids
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Year: 2001
Album: Take Off Your Pants and Jacket
Biggest Fan: Nassim (#534)
Points: 5,142857143
Votes: 14

68. Avenged Sevenfold – Fiction
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Year: 2010
From the album: Nightmare
Biggest Fan: Andy1010 (#807)
Points: 5,205882353
Votes: 17

67. Beyoncé – Pray You Catch Me
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Year: 2016
From the album: Lemonade
Biggest Fan: Prosecutorgodot (#461)
Points: 5,222222222
Votes: 18

66. Janet Jackson – If
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Year: 1993
Album: janet.
Biggest Fan: Moonbeam (#409)
Points: 5,25
Votes: 18

65. My Chemical Romance – Famous Last Words
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Year: 2006
Album: The Black Parade
Biggest Fan: Styrofoam Boots (#401)
Points: 5,264705882
Votes: 17

64. Woody Guthrie – I Ain’t Got No Home In This World Anymore
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Year: 1940
Album: Dust Bowl Ballads
Biggest Fan: Panam (#847)
Points: 5,266666667
Votes: 15

63. Game Theory – Like a Girl Jesus
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Year: 1986
Album: The Big Shot Chronicles
Biggest Fan: Listyguy (#368)
Points: 5,285714286
Votes: 14

62. The Harptones – Life is But a Dream
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Year: 1955
Released as a single.
Biggest Fan: Hymie (#528)
Points: 5,3
Votes: 15

61. Rooney – When Did Your Heart Go Missing?
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Year: 2007
Album: Calling the World
Biggest Fan: StevieFan13 (#524)
Points: 5,34375
Votes: 16

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:42 pm
by Rob
This collection contains the best song in this whole poll (accidentally voted at #56 by you all), chain gang sound effects and two female named bands without female members.

60. Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong
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Year: 1987
From the album: So Strong
Biggest Fan: Red Ant (#37)
Points: 5,375
Votes: 16

59. Queen – Good Company
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Year: 1975
From the album: A Night at the Opera
Biggest Fan: Zombeels (#936)
Points: 5,42
Votes: 25

58. Branford Marsalis – Berta, Berta
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Year: 1992
Album: I Heard You Twice the First Time
Biggest Fan: fasbjd (#945)
Points: 5,4375
Votes: 12

57. Architecture in Helsinki – Heart It Races
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Year: 2007
From the album: Places Like This
Biggest Fan: Nassim (#374)
Points: 5,46875
Votes: 16

56. Elton John – You’re Sister Can’t Twist (But She Sure Can Rock ‘n Roll)
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Year: 1973
From the album: Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
Biggest Fan: Rob (#695)
Points: 5,5
Votes: 25

55. Nirvana – Dive
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Year: 1990
Released as a single (the b-side to Sliver)
Biggest Fan: Live in Phoenix (#469)
Points: 5,535714286
Votes: 14

54. Diana Ross – I’m Still Waiting
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Year: 1970
From the album: Everything Is Everything
Biggest Fan: BonnieLaurel (#49)
Points: 5,694444444
Votes: 18

53. Girls in Hawaii – Catwalk
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Year: 2003
From the album: From Here to There
Biggest Fan: Zombeels (#316)
Points: 5,703125
Votes: 16

52. The Fixx – Red Skies
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Year: 1982
Album: Shuttered Room
Biggest Fan: fasbjd (#446)
Points: 5,733333333
Votes: 15

Really, I would have liked to end this post at #51 as it is the halfway point, but sadly we have a three way tie there.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 1:16 pm
by Rob
In this round some religious people invent proto-punk, we reflect on death several times and a big cat gets into hair fashion. Yes, we have reached the upper half of this list.

49 (tie). (Sandy) Alex G – Proud
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Year: 2017
From the album: Rocket
Biggest Fan: Krurze (#692)
Points: 5,75
Votes: 22

49 (tie). The Replacements – Hold My Life
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Year: 1985
Album: Tim
Biggest Fan: 9 (#813)
Points: 5,75
Votes: 17

49. (tie). Lee “Scratch” Perry & The Upsetters – Dread Lion
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Year: 1976
Album: Super Ape
Biggest Fan: Sonofsamiam (#607)
Points: 5,75
Votes: 14

47 (tie). Medeski, Martin & Wood – Anonymous Skulls
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Year: 2004
From the album: End of the World Party (Just In Case)
Biggest Fan: Fred (#853)
Points: 5,78125
Votes: 16

47 (tie). Car Seat Headrest – Not What I Needed
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Year: 2016
Album: Teens of Denial
Biggest Fan: Nassim (#545)
Points: 5,78125
Votes: 16

46. Bruce Springsteen – Take ‘Em As They Come
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Year: 1998
Album: Tracks (a compilation album)
Biggest Fan: Wezzo (#173)
Points: 5,8
Votes: 15

45. B.B. King – I Can’t Lose
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Year: 1964
Released as a single (the b-side to Rock Me Baby)
Biggest Fan: Hymie (#838)
Points: 5,807692308
Votes: 13

44. Queen – All Dead, All Dead
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Year: 1977
From the album: News of the World
Biggest Fan: Zombeels (#105)
Points: 5,821428571
Votes: 14

42 (tie). Monks – I Hate You
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Year: 1966
Album: Black Monk Time
Biggest Fan: Woodymac (#430)
Points: 5,833333333
Votes: 15

42 (tie). James Brown & The Famous Flames – Tell Me What I Did Wrong
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Year: 1958
Album: Please Please Please
Biggest Fan: Hymie (#978)
Points: 5,833333333
Votes: 15

41. Hot Tuna – Water Song
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Year: 1972
From the album: Burgers
Biggest Fan: Zombeels (#973)
Points: 5,866666667
Votes: 22

Edit: Hot Tuna needed to be 41 and Iron Maiden 40, which I corrected.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 1:51 pm
by Rob
Two songs about drug use, one from a movie about drug trafficking and of course two more songs about death. Keep the good stuff coming.

40. Iron Maiden – Paschendale
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Year: 2003
Album: Dance of Death
Biggest Fan: Jackson (#911)
Points: 5,866666667
Votes: 15

39. The “5” Royales – Crazy, Crazy, Crazy
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Year: 1953
Released as a single.
Biggest Fan: Hymie (#541)
Points: 5,875
Votes: 16

38. Eminem - Drug Ballad
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Year: 2000
Album: The Marshall Matters LP
Biggest Fan: Nassim (#256)
Points: 5,9
Votes: 15

37. Gnarls Barkley – Run (I’m a Natural Disaster)
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Year: 2008
From the album: The Odd Couple
Biggest Fan: StevieFan13 (#702)
Points: 5,972222222
Votes: 18

36. J.J. Cale – Magnolia
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Year: 1972
From the album: Naturally
Biggest Fan: Antonius (#656)
Points: 5,979166667
Votes: 24

34 (tie). Los Saicos – Demolición
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Year: 1965
Released as a single
Biggest Fan: Panam (#42)
Points: 6,03125
Votes: 16

34 (tie). Giorgio Moroder – (Theme from) Midnight Express
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Year: 1978
Album: Midnight Express: Music from the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Biggest Fan: Nicolas (#511)
Points: 6,03125
Votes: 16

33. Son House – Death Letter
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Year: 1965
Album: Father of Folk Blues
Biggest Fan: Sonofsamiam (#332)
Points: 6,038461538
Votes: 13

32. Jenny Lewis – Acid Tongue
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Year: 2008
From the album: Acid Tongue
Biggest Fan: StevieFan13 (#151)
Points: 6,105263158
Votes: 19

31. Ray Charles – (The Night Time) is the Right Time
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Year: 1958
Album: The Genius Sings the Blues (though it appeared earlier on the live album Ray Charles at Newport)
Biggest Fan: Hymie (#423)
Points: 6,125
Votes: 16

I need a break, but will be back later for the final 30.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 1:53 pm
by Hymie
James Brown & His Furious Flames
It's the Famous Flames.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 1:55 pm
by Rob
Hymie wrote:
James Brown & His Furious Flames
It's the Famous Flames.
Indeed, fixed.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 5:18 pm
by Rob
Strange observations: In this group we have two princes but no spin doctors, country metal and a lot of love - and I mean a lot. Positive emotions are allowed again?

30. Rush – Yyz
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Year: 1981
Album: Moving Pictures
Biggest Fan: FrankLotion (#188)
Points: 6,166666667
Votes: 18

29. Prince – Love
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Year: 2006
From the album: 3121
Biggest Fan: Moonbeam (#404)
Points: 6,178571429
Votes: 14

28. Lucinda Williams – Metal Firecracker
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Year: 1998
Album: Car Wheels On a Gravel Road
Biggest Fan: acroamor (#386)
Points: 6,214285714
Votes: 14

27. Albin de La Simone – Le grand amour
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Year: 2017
Album: L’un de nous
Biggest Fan: Nicolas (#643)
Points: 6,233333333
Votes: 15

26. The Coral – In the Morning
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Year: 2005
From the album: The Invisible Invasion
Biggest Fan: Romain (#362)
Points: 6,277777778
Votes: 18

25. Dusty Springfield – Goin’ Back
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Year: 1966
Released as a single
Biggest Fan: Sonofsamiam (#359)
Points: 6,309524
Votes: 21

24. Rickie Lee Jones – Chuck E’s in Love
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Year: 1979
From the album: Rickie Lee Jones
Biggest Fan: BonnieLaurel (#373)
Points: 6,315217391
Votes: 23

23. The Stooges – Fun House
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Year: 1970
From the album: Fun House
Biggest Fan: Damosuzuki (#400)
Points: 6,32
Votes: 25

22. Brownie McGhee & Sonny Terry – When It’s Love Time
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Year: 1956
Album: Back Country Blues
Biggest Fan: Hymie (#331)
Points: 6,321428571
Votes: 14

21. Prince – Free
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Year: 1982
Album: 1999
Biggest Fan: Moonbeam (#437)
Points: 6,357142857
Votes: 14

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 5:57 pm
by Rob
By coincidence this group contains both the first entry of this poll and the hundredth and therefore last entry. Do you remember which they were? The first one was also the one which got the most votes, which is no surprise.

20. The Deathray Davies – The Fall Fashions
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Year: 2005
Album: The Kick and the Snare
Biggest Fan: Zombeels (#681)
Points: 6,365384615
Votes: 13

19. Sweet – The Six Teens
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Year: 1974
Album: Desolation Boulevard
Biggest Fan: Zombeels (#648)
Points: 6,375
Votes: 16

18. Cocteau Twins – Frou-frou Foxes In Midsummer Fires
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Year: 1990
Album: Heaven or Las Vegas
Biggest Fan: Live in Phoenix (#147)
Points: 6,411764706
Votes: 17

17. Prince – Colonized Mind
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Year: 2009
Album: LOtUSFLOW3R
Biggest Fan: Moonbeam (#697)
Points: 6,423076923
Votes: 13

16. Alain Bashung - Madame rêve
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Year: 1991
Album: Osez Joséphine
Biggest Fan: Romain (#93)
Points: 6,455882353
Votes: 17

15. Muddy Waters – Good News
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Year: 1957
Released as a single
Biggest Fan: Hymie (#683)
Points: 6,461538462
Votes: 26

13 (tie). Joan Baez – Silver Dagger
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Year: 1960
Album: Joan Baez
Biggest Fan: BonnieLaurel (#292)
Points: 6,529411765
Votes : 17

13 (tie). Minnie Ripperton – Inside My Love
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Year: 1975
Album: Adventures in Paradise
Biggest Fan: Henrik (#645)
Points: 6,529411765
Votes: 17

12. Empire of the Sun – Walking on a Dream
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Year: 2009
Album: Walking on a Dream
Biggest Fan: Slick (#59)
Points: 6,552631579
Votes: 19

11. Belle and Sebastian – Act of the Apostle (1)
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Year: 2006
Album: The Life Pursuit
Biggest Fan: Romain (#402)
Points: 6,5625
Votes: 16

I wonder how many people could actually name the 10 remaining songs from the top of their heads.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 6:37 pm
by Rob
This update contains... The best! As voted by you!

10. The Smiths – Sheila Take a Bow
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Year: 1987
Released as a single
Biggest Fan: Steviefan13 (#307)
Points: 6,617647059
Votes: 17

9. Nick Drake – Saturday Sun
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Year: 1969
Album: Five Leaves Left
Biggest Fan: Andyd1010 (#640)
Points: 6,631578947
Votes: 19

8. Adam & The Ants – Stand and Deliver
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Year: 1981
Album: Prince Charming
Biggest Fan: Brad (#774)
Points: 6,640625
Votes: 16

7. Les Rita Mitsouko, featuring Sparks – Singing in the Shower
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Year: 1988
Album: Marc & Robert
Biggest Fan: Romain (#49)
Points: 6,642857143
Votes: 14

6. Two Doors Cinema Club – What You Know
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Year: 2010
Album: Tourist History
Biggest Fan: JohnnyBGoode (#490)
Points: 6,65625
Votes: 16

5. Middle Kids – Edge of Town
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Year: 2017
From the EP: Middle Kids
Biggest Fan: StevieFan13 (#903)
Points: 6,659090909
Votes: 22

4. Goldfrapp – Strict Machine
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Year: 2003
From the album: Black Cherry
Biggest Fan: BluePanda (#607)
Points: 6,795454545
Votes: 22

3. Fiona Apple – Limp
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Year: 1999
Album: When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King What He Knows Throws the Blows When He Goes to the Fight and He'll Win the Whole Thing 'fore He Enters the Ring There's No Body to Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might so When You Go Solo, You Hold Your Own Hand and Remember That Depth Is the Greatest of Heights and If You Know Where You Stand, Then You Know Where to Land and If You Fall It Won't Matter, Cuz You'll Know That You're Right.
Biggest Fan: Jirin (#194)
Points: 6,8
Votes: 14

2. KT Tunstall – Suddenly I See
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Year: 2005
Album: Eye to the Telescope
Biggest Fan: Kaue (#323)
Points: 7,055555556
Votes: 18

1. The Heavy – How You Like Me Now
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Year: 2009
Album: The House That Dirt Build
Biggest Fan: Dan (#645)
Points: 7,279411765
Votes: 17

That's it!... Until we hit the next 100.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 6:46 pm
by Rob
I have some reflections and thoughts, but will save them for tomorrow. If there are any questions or comments you want to make about all this, let me know.

For now I will post my top 10 from this top 100:
1. Elton John – You’re Sister Can’t Twist (But She Sure Can Rock ‘n Roll)
2. Sun City Girls – The Shining Path
3. Rickie Lee Jones – Chuck E’s in Love
4. Labi Siffre - (Something Inside) So Strong
5. The Heavy – How You Like Me Now
6. Sweet – The Six Teens
7. Jenny Lewis – Acid Tongue
8. Cocteau Twins - Frou-frou Foxes in Midsummer
9. C.A. Quintet - Trip Thru Hell, Pt. 2
10. Architecture in Helsinki – Heart It Races

Least favorite song:
Britney Spears - Everytime

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 6:58 pm
by Romain
Not a surprise for The Heavy, and thanks to Dan for this discovery. Their albums are excellent.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:11 pm
by Honorio
Excellent presentation, Rob! And an excellent Top 5!

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:24 pm
by PlasticRam
Great work, Rob! Nice picture you found of Exuma.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 5:32 pm
by Rob
PlasticRam wrote:Great work, Rob! Nice picture you found of Exuma.
Thanks, there weren't all that many great Exuma pictures with a decent size around, so I was happy to find that one.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:30 pm
by Rob
So now we have had the first 100 – or really the first 125 – I have a question: do people like this game?

I ask this because although it has quite consistent participation the grades in general aren’t that good, which frequently give me the impression that people don’t get much out of it. The averages aren’t great either. Of course there is a low participation threshold, since it is only one song a day. But do people want to continue with it?

Myself, I got more than a few good discoveries out of it that makes it worthwhile, but I don’t set this thing up for me alone. And even with steady participation there are quite a few people who seem to vote only when they already know the song beforehand and few make any comment. Is it worth it as a discovery game for most participants? Maybe people get fun out of it without discovering of course, but I’d like to know what you all think about this?

Another point, Spiritualized didn’t make a top 1000 songs, but wants to nominate some songs he loves that didn’t get any votes. I’m a little weary of including too many of these requests. In a way because I don’t want to keep on updating my starting list on every whim, but if someone hasn’t hand in a top 1000 originally I don’t mind too much. Again what do you all think?


Finally, some fun facts:
• The following people rated every song, in order of appearance: Hymie, PlasticRam, Rob, DaveC, Akhenaten and Honorio. Romain didn’t vote for Red Tape and Berta, Berta, though he mentioned in both cases not knowing how to rate them. Brad and Zombeels both missed three songs and SafetyCat two (an oversight?). TheLastEnemy faltered at the finish line, as he votes for the first 96 songs, but hasn’t participated since.
• Conversely, Acroamar only voted for Stay Together for the Kids (and gave a 10). LiveInPhoenix also only voted twice. I even wondered if they were official votes.
• Most voters however, were more erratic. Either voting for a specific period of time (not necessarily at the start) and then dropping of again. Others just vote every now and then, but of those only Andy1010 explained this.
• Only 15 songs got over 20 votes, with Good News – typically the first song – winning with 26 votes.
• Jolka, Jolka pamiętasz got only 10 votes and therefore the least. It is not on Spotify, which might have hurt it. Non-Spotify songs got less votes, even if Jolka, Jolka underperforms regardless. Seems people likes to use my playlist for this.
• Hymie and Zombeels tie with the most nominated songs on the list, with seven apiece. Hymie’s score clearly better than Zombeels, as six of his songs made the top 50.
• Speaking of doing well, StevieFan, who came after Zombeels and Hymie with most songs present (at six) once posted in one of the topics that he felt that people didn’t like his nominations much. Actually, in general his suggestions did better than most and he even has two songs in the top 10!
• You probably already noticed, but Prince had the most songs here, all nominated by Moonbeam. With placements at #17, #21 and #29 The Purple One’s presence was deemed welcome.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:05 pm
by Romain
Rob, I still love this "game" as much as ever, it allows me to listen to what I would never have listened to on my own.

Perhaps a suggestion to attract more voters, take a song not at random on all the lists, but by taking a song at random in each list and go around each forumers so as not to "disadvantage" them. (50 songs -> 50 separate forumers) ?

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:16 pm
by Henrik
I know I am sort of one of the erratics, but I like this game. It’s a bit sad to see so many low ratings, but I suppose that people are just being honest, so that’s an observation, not a complain.

I have been thinking along the same lines as Romain about the random selections. Perhaps with a bigger chance of getting a song selected for people who are rating songs?

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:48 pm
by Moonbeam
Thanks, Rob! The countdown was a surprise!

I do enjoy the game (though I've fallen a bit behind now). I love the idea of putting a spotlight on songs that are less known but beloved by one of our users. I have made some nice discoveries, as well!

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:35 pm
by Brad
Wow - thought I caught them all... any idea which ones I missed? Regardless, excellent work!

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 11:12 pm
by andyd1010
This has been fun! I think I would be overwhelmed if I rated them all, but it's been interesting to see how you guys react to some personal favorites that haven't been discussed here before. With my limited exploratory listens, it's been great for discovery too - Acid Tongue and What You Know are two of the best discoveries I've made this year, and going through the top ones from the rollout, Edge of Town is another great one. I'll give it a high rating soon after giving it a few more spins.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 11:31 pm
by andyd1010
I would also be curious to see how established classics would fare on a 1-10 scale here for comparison’s sake.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 11:40 pm
by Hymie
I like this even though I don't like most of the records much. I did like The Heavy record, so I'm glad that ended up on top. I also like it because it exposes the other members to lesser known stuff from my list that they otherwise would never listen to.

As for scores being low, by definition these are songs that only one member here loves, so it's very likely that they either don't have wide appeal, or in my case, are mainly from an era and of styles that are now well known by most members here.
Hymie and Zombeels tie with the most nominated songs on the list, with seven apiece. Hymie’s score clearly better than Zombeels
Naturally :music-rockon:

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 11:53 pm
by StevieFan13
Rob wrote: • Speaking of doing well, StevieFan, who came after Zombeels and Hymie with most songs present (at six) once posted in one of the topics that he felt that people didn’t like his nominations much. Actually, in general his suggestions did better than most and he even has two songs in the top 10!
And what a pleasant surprise it is! I'm glad people enjoyed those songs, especially "Edge of Town." I love introducing songs to people.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:06 am
by Sweepstakes Ron
Aw, none of my songs have been picked yet. Then again, there's only 19 of them. And many of them have been nominated by me in forum games already.

And sorry I haven't participated, I think I'm just not yet ready to assign a numerical rating to individual songs. Largely because song ratings would probably me far more volatile than album ratings. I'd like to start once Sonemic comes about, but that could take years...

Remember after the previous all-time artists poll, there was a spreadsheet where people assigned ratings out of 10 to the different artists? I believe there was a plan to make one for songs as well, but it never came to fruition. Would that be an idea worth pursuing?

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:27 am
by BobPatience
I like the game. I'm still planning on eventually rating all of them. But, besides those few weeks in March, I haven't really had the right mindset to sit down and listen to music, instead of just having it on as background noise all day.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:31 am
by Moonbeam
Sweepstakes Ron wrote: Remember after the previous all-time artists poll, there was a spreadsheet where people assigned ratings out of 10 to the different artists? I believe there was a plan to make one for songs as well, but it never came to fruition. Would that be an idea worth pursuing?
That was me! I'm happy to start one, but I was waiting on the AM update and never got around to it.

One thing that held me back a bit though was details about data security. With an openly editable Google Sheet, it would be easy for someone to accidentally (or deliberately, though I doubt anyone would do this) delete or edit the ratings of someone else. Does anyone who is more familiar with this sort of thing with me know if there is a way to "lock" a column of a spreadsheet such that only one person can edit it?

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 5:08 am
by CupOfDreams
Rob wrote: • Most voters however, were more erratic. Either voting for a specific period of time (not necessarily at the start) and then dropping of again.
I'm guilty of this. Think I voted for about a month and got behind. I've been really focused on completing my Top 10,000 Songs list & Playlist that I started about 8 months ago. I've also been contributing some long lists on the 80s threads as I go through years for my Top 10,000.

I actually like the thread as it exposes the unique tastes of certain members. I joined right about the time the original list was counting down. Wish I had joined soon enough to contribute a list as I imagine I would have finished pretty high here.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 8:57 am
by spiritualized
Rob wrote:
Another point, Spiritualized didn’t make a top 1000 songs, but wants to nominate some songs he loves that didn’t get any votes. I’m a little weary of including too many of these requests. In a way because I don’t want to keep on updating my starting list on every whim, but if someone hasn’t hand in a top 1000 originally I don’t mind too much. Again what do you all think?
Rob, I think this is a smashing idea :) Joke aside, I am pretty sure that most forumers did submit a list on the original poll, so I don't think you'll get many requests. I was an exception.
As for the game, it is a good channel to expose our fellow forumers to our favorite tunes. I like the idea of doing a "user-focused" random entry as well, but it favors the forumers who haven't had many entries...and therefore is not totally random anymore.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:55 pm
by Akhenaten
I love the "game". I prefer it to Unclaimed Songs one - I find the songs far more varied (and more fun). I've discovered Alain Bashing, that bonkers Klatu track (and Klatu themselves). I've never heard those daft Queen and Elton John tracks before, and enjoyed them. I've never delved into post-2000 Prince tracks before either.

I didn't join the forum until after the top 1000 songs poll, and would love to submit a list of unvoted songs too, but I understand your concern about taking extra lists on Rob, so happy enough just listening to everyone's else songs!

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:50 am
by Dan
Rob wrote: 1. The Heavy – How You Like Me Now
Image
Year: 2009
Album: The House That Dirt Build
Biggest Fan: Dan (#645)
Points: 7,279411765
Votes: 17
Oooooohhh. I admit that I haven't been paying close attention to the Biggest Fan game, but after listening to a few of the songs on this list I feel that I should be participating. Anyway, I'm glad to have introduced this exhilarating funk rock tune to a few people on the forum who didn't know it. But I actually discovered it from one of Henrik's lists, so he's to thank or blame, depending on the score you gave it.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:55 pm
by Rob
Brad wrote:Wow - thought I caught them all... any idea which ones I missed?
Yes, the following:

Water Song by Hot Tuna, Free by Prince and Stay Together for the Kids by Blink 182. These last two came right after each other.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:11 pm
by Rob
andyd1010 wrote:I would also be curious to see how established classics would fare on a 1-10 scale here for comparison’s sake.
Better, I'm sure. I think that songs that are more ingrained in our systems will allow for more powerful responses. You see it very well in those weekly classics games on this forum, where unknown quantities don't stand a chance to famous songs.
Hymie wrote: As for scores being low, by definition these are songs that only one member here loves, so it's very likely that they either don't have wide appeal, or in my case, are mainly from an era and of styles that are now well known by most members here.
That's true to an extend. A big hit like Something Just Like This was probably known by most here, but not liked enough to get a top 1000 vote from them, so it figures that it would do badly here. However, there also so many songs out there, that the reason they only appear on one list is because only one person here knew about it. The general song here falls probably more in the middle of these extremes.
Romain wrote: Perhaps a suggestion to attract more voters, take a song not at random on all the lists, but by taking a song at random in each list and go around each forumers so as not to "disadvantage" them. (50 songs -> 50 separate forumers) ?
I'm not sure that will attract more voters, but it is an interesting approach that I might consider, although some people have few unique songs nominated and will be done quickly.
Henrik wrote: I have been thinking along the same lines as Romain about the random selections. Perhaps with a bigger chance of getting a song selected for people who are rating songs?
I'm not very fond of this. Perhaps people here attach more importance to having their song appear here than I thought, but if we are going to disadvantage some nominators we will also lose some of the entries of out most out-there-minded nominators (Fred, Sonofsamiam, Prosecutorgodot), which I think would be a shame.
spiritualized wrote: I like the idea of doing a "user-focused" random entry as well, but it favors the forumers who haven't had many entries...and therefore is not totally random anymore.
That's my concern as well, even if it isn't a big one. What works best for me I think is to allow one song each month per person. At the start of the month we start over and everybody can get a new one in. But since a month has less days then there are participants, we can somewhat favor people who have more unique votes. The songs are still random of course; I want to keep it that way.

Let me know what you all think. I have prepared all songs up and until Sunday, so any new selection system will probably start at Monday. What option do you prefer:

1. Keep selections completely random.
2. Go with a random song from each person, then start over.
3. Allow for only one nomination per user a month.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:23 pm
by Rob
spiritualized wrote: Rob, I think this is a smashing idea :) Joke aside, I am pretty sure that most forumers did submit a list on the original poll, so I don't think you'll get many requests. I was an exception.
Akhenaten wrote: I didn't join the forum until after the top 1000 songs poll, and would love to submit a list of unvoted songs too, but I understand your concern about taking extra lists on Rob, so happy enough just listening to everyone's else songs!
Here's what I'll do. I accept new lists by people, but under these conditions:

- Only people who didn't make a top 1000. Should be obvious.
- The list may only consists of songs that didn't get a single vote for the All Time Songs Poll. I leave it to you to find out if this is the case.
- Once the list is handed over to me, no changes can be made anymore.
- The list can contain no more than 210 songs. Why 210? That is the average amount on unique songs on all the combined lists.

I think that should be okay with most people.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:28 pm
by Henrik
Option 3 above is perfect, I think.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 8:50 pm
by DaveC
I'm quite happy with option 1. I have no particular desire to have songs I already know well introduced in a non-random fashion in this game.

As to the low scores: As an example - when I look at the scores for albums on metacritic, almost everything is scored between 60 & 90 on what is supposed to be a 100 point scale. If everything is going to be scored between 5 & 10, then why have a 10 point scale? I think quite a few people are using the full 1-10 scale here and I think that is a good thing. So I don't see a score of 5 as implying a bad song. In context, songs scoring over 7 on average is very impressive.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:09 am
by Akhenaten
Thanks Rob, I'll send you a list as soon as I can.
And I'd vote for option 3.

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:38 am
by Zombeels
Option 4: Only songs by Zombeels


:D

Re: Biggest Fan - The First Top 100

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 7:24 am
by PlasticRam
I guess 3.