[Results] Songs of the 1990s

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[Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby DaveC » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:27 pm

Compiled from rankings by

Akhenaten
andyd1010
BangJan
BleuPanda
Bonnielaurel
Brad
Bruno
Chris K.
Craig
CupOfDreams
Dan
DaveC
Elder
FrankLotion
Henry
Listyguy
Live in Phoenix
Maverick470
Nassim
Neil
Nicolas
phil
Rob
rumpdoll
SafetyCat
Sonofsamiam
spiritualized
starchman46
StevieFan13
Toni

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby DaveC » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:39 pm

No great surprises near the bottom of the list, with the points gap between #150 & #149 being the largest points gap outside the top 10.




150. Onyx - Slam
Score: 665 pts
Year of Release: 1993 (#13 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 1547 (9863 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: >350
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Highest rank: Elder(57)
Not Fans: andyd1010(137), BleuPanda(149), bonnielaurel(150), Brad(140), Bruno(149), ChrisK(147), CupOfDreams(139), DaveC(147), Dan(141), FrankLotion(98/106), Henry(150), Listyguy(150), maverick470(123/124), phil(150), rumpdoll(142), spiritualized(141/148)





149. Aphex Twin - Xtal
Score: 776 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#14 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 1177 (7483 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 264
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Highest rank: phil(36)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(136), andyd1010(149), BleuPanda(139), Dan(139), Listyguy(149), Neil(143), StevieFan13(144)





148. LL Cool J - Mama Said Knock You Out
Score: 780.8 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#10 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 177 (1439 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: >350
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 143

Highest rank: maverick470(27)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(139), ChrisK(142), Elder(144), FrankLotion(99/106), Henry(149), Nassim(150), phil(146), spiritualized(140/148)

LiveinPhoenix: Don't ever be stupid enough to get LL Cool J mad. (Conversely, does any of the cast of NCIS: Los Angeles, for the hell of it, ever request LL Cool J to cut a diss track on them?)





147. The Notorious B.I.G. - Hypnotize
Score: 812.3 pts
Year of Release: 1997 (#12 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 155 (1335 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 186
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Highest rank: LiveinPhoenix(32)
Not Fans: DaveC(148), SafetyCat(136/149), spiritualized(143/148), Toni(141)





146. R.E.M. - Country Feedback
Score: 818.4 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#19 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 360 (2534 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: >350
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Highest rank: LiveinPhoenix(21)
Not Fans: Dan(148), Nassim(142), Toni(148)





145. Alice In Chains - Would?
Score: 832 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#16 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 343 (2437 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 113
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Highest rank: Bruno(20)
Not Fans: Dan(150), rumpdoll(149), starchman46(85/87), StevieFan13(141), Toni(143)





144. Scott Walker - Farmer in the City
Score: 835.1 pts
Year of Release: 1995 (#12 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 1029 (6616 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: >350
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: BangJan(7)
Not Fans: andyd1010(150), Bruno(150), DaveC(150), Dan(136), LiveinPhoenix(150), Neil(145), phil(138), Rob(147), rumpdoll(145), SafetyCat(140/149), spiritualized(146/148), StevieFan13(147)





143. Pearl Jam - Yellow Ledbetter
Score: 842.9 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#15 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 1254 (7987 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 238
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Highest rank: LiveinPhoenix(29)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(142), Dan(147), Nassim(141), Rob(138), sonofsamiam(142), Toni(144)





142. Stardust - Music Sounds Better with You
Score: 846.7 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 41 (448 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 90
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: BleuPanda(4), Craig(11)
Not Fans: Brad(139), ChrisK(148), CupOfDreams(140), DaveC(139), Henry(138), LiveinPhoenix(139), Nassim(148), phil(142)





141. Ms. Lauryn Hill - Ex-Factor
Score: 850.1 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#14 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 296 (2198 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 225
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: bonnielaurel(14), FrankLotion(9)
Not Fans: Brad(138), Listyguy(145), Nassim(136)

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby StevieFan13 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:43 pm

Gonna be interesting seeing how rap fares in this poll.
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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Bruno » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:56 pm

Some surprises so far.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby DaveC » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:10 pm

Sadly all the songs in the poll that are unranked on AM all drop in this group. Also we have our first 3 #1 votes.

Wonderful new (to me) word: Melisma is the singing of a single syllable of text while moving between several different notes in succession. Music sung in this style is referred to as melismatic.
I'll have to find a way to use it in conversation as an aide-memoire, something like "I don't like American Idol because..."





140. Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
Score: 857.3 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#12 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 762 (4995 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: >350
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: bonnielaurel(9)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(143), BangJan(144), BleuPanda(147), Brad(148), CupOfDreams(150), Listyguy(142), Nassim(146), nicolas(146), Rob(150), rumpdoll(147), sonofsamiam(146), spiritualized(148/148), starchman46(82/87)

LiveinPhoenix: I preferred Mariah Carey as a pseudo-Whitney Houston act. I've gotten sort of tired of melismatic singing, but this song has the most amazing rendition of a single word ("all").





139. A Tribe Called Quest - Can I Kick It?
Score: 867.3 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#13 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 268 (1956 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 230
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: BleuPanda(14)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(141), ChrisK(145), Henry(140), Listyguy(139), LiveinPhoenix(141)





138. Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You
Score: 868.4 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#13 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: Unacclaimed
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: >350
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Highest rank: Dan(16)
Not Fans: BangJan(139), BleuPanda(141), Brad(149), ChrisK(138), LiveinPhoenix(145), nicolas(150), spiritualized(147/148), starchman46(87/87)





137. Eminem - My Name Is
Score: 872 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 36 (423 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 219
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 127

Highest rank: FrankLotion(32)
Not Fans: BangJan(142), bonnielaurel(149), Brad(136), CupOfDreams(145), Listyguy(143), nicolas(144), rumpdoll(138)





136. Blackstreet feat. Dr. Dre and Queen Pen - No Diggity
Score: 872.3 pts
Year of Release: 1996 (#6 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 75 (737 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 168
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Highest rank: Toni(17)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(138), Brad(145), ChrisK(144), Henry(145), starchman46(84/87)





135. Slowdive - Alison
Score: 872.4 pts
Year of Release: 1993 (#12 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: Bubbling
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 131
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Neil(1)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(145), SafetyCat(138/149), Toni(142)





134. Beck - Sexx Laws
Score: 880.2 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#14 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 247 (1815 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 347
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 102

Highest rank: phil(23)
Not Fans: FrankLotion(105/106), LiveinPhoenix(136), maverick470(115/124), Rob(136)

LiveinPhoenix: This was the soundtrack of me dropping Beck, in retrospect. Besides "Sexx Laws" being less catchy than "Loser" and "Where It's At," the odd edge was gone, and I guess I said to myself, "Well how much of this nonsense do I really want to listen to?"





133. Pavement - Fillmore Jive
Score: 897.2 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#19 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: Unacclaimed
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 154
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 108

Fans: Brad(1), Nassim(4)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(149), BleuPanda(144), bonnielaurel(142), Bruno(141), Dan(144), Neil(137), phil(136), Rob(144), SafetyCat(143/149), spiritualized(134/148)





132. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Scar Tissue
Score: 903.3 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#9 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 145 (1269 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 138
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Henry(9)
Not Fans: Elder(145), rumpdoll(144), sonofsamiam(149)





131. Compay Segundo - Yo vengo aquí
Score: 906.9 pts
Year of Release: 1996 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: Unacclaimed
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 305
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: nicolas(1)
Not Fans: andyd1010(143), BleuPanda(150), ChrisK(136), Elder(138)

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby jamieW » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:59 pm

So sorry I couldn't get my songs list done in time for this. I would've given a huge boost to "Farmer in the City" and "Would?", which both would've likely been in my top 10. My jaw nearly hit the floor when I saw how low "Farmer in the City" was (I thought there were a lot of Scott Walker fans in the forum). And "Would?" is one of the darkest songs I've ever heard, which is great for me, but might not be so wonderful for others. Anyway, I hope to participate in the albums poll to lift my favorites a bit. (Seeing my favorite songs fall so quickly has put the fear of God into me. :P )

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby FrankLotion » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:51 am

Just want to go on record saying I love a lot of the songs I’m listed as not a fan, I just love other ones more!

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby DaveC » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:36 am

FrankLotion wrote:Just want to go on record saying I love a lot of the songs I’m listed as not a fan, I just love other ones more!


Yes. I did think of getting rid of that section, but I got very busy so I just used the program I wrote a few years ago without alteration. Maybe it will be gone for the Albums roll-out.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby CupOfDreams » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:43 am

jamieW wrote:So sorry I couldn't get my songs list done in time for this. I would've given a huge boost to "Farmer in the City" and "Would?", which both would've likely been in my top 10. My jaw nearly hit the floor when I saw how low "Farmer in the City" was (I thought there were a lot of Scott Walker fans in the forum). And "Would?" is one of the darkest songs I've ever heard, which is great for me, but might not be so wonderful for others. Anyway, I hope to participate in the albums poll to lift my favorites a bit. (Seeing my favorite songs fall so quickly has put the fear of God into me. :P )


They both scored fairly high with me: 38 & 33.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Dan » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:13 pm

Thanks very much for doing this again, DaveC. You've hosted quite a few of these big, time-consuming polls, and they always seem to be error-free. You make it look easy, and I know it's not! And the presentation is looking very good once again.

While listening to the 150 songs that made it through to the final this time round, I missed some of the world music / non-English language songs that made the final cut when we did the 1990s polls back in 2012 - songs by artists like Buena Vista Social Club, Rachid Taha, Alain Bashung, Madredeus, Yann Tiersen, William Sheller, and especially my beloved Cesária Évora...

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Some of the people who helped those artists to get through last time didn't participate in the 1990s polls last year, which goes a long way to explaining the omissions. I guess I just miss a time when the forum felt more international and people seemed to be more open to non-anglophone music. But such is life, right? Things change. And it's not like there's a lack of quality (whatever that means) in the 150 songs that are being counted down at the moment. I'm looking forward to the rest of the roll-out and will be following it closely.
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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

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130. 2Pac feat. Dr. Dre and Roger Troutman - California Love
Score: 908.9 pts
Year of Release: 1995 (#14 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 54 (574 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 106
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 141

Highest rank: Dan(17)
Not Fans: Brad(144), Elder(149), phil(144), Rob(146), starchman46(86/87)





129. Ride - Vapour Trail
Score: 910.9 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#7 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 729 (4822 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 147
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 94

Fans: CupOfDreams(8)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(137), andyd1010(138), bonnielaurel(136), Bruno(139), Craig(125/133), Listyguy(136), Nassim(137), Toni(147)





128. Weezer - El Scorcho
Score: 913.8 pts
Year of Release: 1996 (#5 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 275 (1994 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 291
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 132

Fans: Nassim(9), phil(12), Toni(10)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(148), BangJan(148), Dan(146), rumpdoll(146)





127. Tortoise - Djed
Score: 915.2 pts
Year of Release: 1996 (#10 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 661 (4424 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 167
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 118

Fans: BangJan(4), sonofsamiam(14)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(147), andyd1010(148), Bruno(138), Dan(149), Neil(148), StevieFan13(150), Toni(149)





126. Eric Clapton - Tears in Heaven
Score: 922 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#7 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 159 (1357 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 110
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: bonnielaurel(4), Bruno(14), LiveinPhoenix(11)
Not Fans: BangJan(145), BleuPanda(148), Brad(147), FrankLotion(101/106), maverick470(122/124), sonofsamiam(148), spiritualized(142/148), StevieFan13(136)





125. The Chemical Brothers - Hey Boy Hey Girl
Score: 926.3 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#12 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 78 (758 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 330
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: BleuPanda(10)
Not Fans: Henry(142), Listyguy(148)





124. Pavement - Here
Score: 927.9 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#9 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 350 (2466 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 153
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 81

Fans: Brad(4)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(139), Craig(132/133), Toni(136)





123. Foo Fighters - Learn to Fly
Score: 929.8 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#10 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 218 (1648 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 232
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Henry(8), SafetyCat(14)
Not Fans: BangJan(140), BleuPanda(142), Dan(138), Elder(150), nicolas(138), sonofsamiam(139)





122. Nas - N.Y. State of Mind
Score: 934.7 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#17 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 281 (2072 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 82
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: FrankLotion(5), sonofsamiam(5)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(146), Brad(141), Craig(127/133), DaveC(146), Henry(148), phil(148)





121. Green Day - When I Come Around
Score: 935 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#10 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 314 (2261 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 100
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Listyguy(10), StevieFan13(11)
Not Fans: BangJan(147), Brad(142), CupOfDreams(138), Elder(148)

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Rob » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:42 pm

StevieFan13 wrote:Gonna be interesting seeing how rap fares in this poll.


As it turns out, it's doing really terrible.

DaveC wrote:Wonderful new (to me) word: Melisma is the singing of a single syllable of text while moving between several different notes in succession. Music sung in this style is referred to as melismatic.
I'll have to find a way to use it in conversation as an aide-memoire, something like "I don't like American Idol because..."


I didn't know this either, but this actually a perfect description of the singing style of Mariah Carey/ Celine Dion/ Whitney Houston that I find insufferable. It always sounds like fake drama to me. Vision of Love at #150 was a very easy choice.

jamieW wrote:So sorry I couldn't get my songs list done in time for this. I would've given a huge boost to "Farmer in the City" and "Would?", which both would've likely been in my top 10. My jaw nearly hit the floor when I saw how low "Farmer in the City" was (I thought there were a lot of Scott Walker fans in the forum).


I wouldn't call myself a Scott Walker fan, if only because I know too little of him, but some song of his have gripped me in the past. Farmer in the City, on the other hand, not so much. It is a drag to get through for me honestly. That whole auction part never seems to end. I also can not believe Scott Walker in the role of a farmer. He sounds too much like a posh, elite gentleman. That's the opera influence of course, but I have never gotten into opera either, so there we go.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby jamieW » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:14 pm

Rob wrote:That whole auction part never seems to end. I also can not believe Scott Walker in the role of a farmer. He sounds too much like a posh, elite gentleman.


Ha - that's something I'd never considered before. As someone who grew up around many farmers, it's hard to argue that point! (Though, given it's been a favorite of mine for many years, I'm hoping that thought won't cross my mind much when I listen to it in the future!)

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby DaveC » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:52 pm

I thought Pavement were more popular around here, but first the song with the most last place votes:





120. Santana feat. Rob Thomas - Smooth
Score: 935.9 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#13 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 174 (1429 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 142
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 142

Fans: Henry(1)
Not Fans: BangJan(150), Brad(150), ChrisK(150), FrankLotion(103/106), nicolas(148), phil(141), rumpdoll(150), sonofsamiam(150), spiritualized(137/148)

LiveinPhoenix: Can I be forgiven for thinking for a year (see "Bent" and "If You're Gone" also) that Rob Thomas was maybe a big deal?





119. Neutral Milk Hotel - Holland, 1945
Score: 938.5 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#10 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 135 (1139 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 95
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 92

Fans: Toni(15)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(146), Henry(139), LiveinPhoenix(137), SafetyCat(135/149)





118. Fiona Apple - Paper Bag
Score: 939.1 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#6 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 976 (6333 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 283
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: phil(9), StevieFan13(4)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(136), Bruno(140), LiveinPhoenix(148), Neil(140), spiritualized(136/148), starchman46(79/87)





117. Green Day - Longview
Score: 939.3 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#15 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 140 (1181 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 115
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Highest rank: ChrisK(19)
Not Fans: Brad(146), CupOfDreams(142), Dan(140), nicolas(141), sonofsamiam(140)





116. Pavement - Summer Babe
Score: 941.6 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#20 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 70 (707 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 69
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 71

Fans: Brad(5), CupOfDreams(10)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(150), andyd1010(144), bonnielaurel(144), Craig(133/133), Elder(141), Rob(140), SafetyCat(149/149)





115. Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - I See a Darkness
Score: 945.3 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#7 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 161 (1366 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 84
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Rob(2)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(137), LiveinPhoenix(144), starchman46(83/87)





114. Pixies - Velouria
Score: 950.7 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#9 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 452 (3157 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 226
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 106

Fans: Brad(13), DaveC(10)
Not Fans: Bruno(146), Craig(123/133), Nassim(143), StevieFan13(143)





113. Pavement - Gold Soundz
Score: 953.1 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#16 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 82 (784 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 77
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Brad(3)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(141), bonnielaurel(140), Bruno(136), phil(140), Rob(137), Toni(140)





112. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Otherside
Score: 954.7 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#11 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 498 (3538 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 143
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Henry(2)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(145), BangJan(137), rumpdoll(137), sonofsamiam(147)





111. Slint - Good Morning, Captain
Score: 956.6 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#15 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 303 (2220 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 83
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 73

Fans: BleuPanda(15), CupOfDreams(1)
Not Fans: Craig(124/133), Dan(145), Henry(143), Listyguy(140), maverick470(124/124), Neil(146)

CupOfDreams: From it's slow, methodical build-up to the harrowing shouts of "I Miss You", it's one song that doesn't let go.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Elder » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:50 pm

I wish all the artists who rated several songs had at least some of those songs out of the "top 100". It would be a more interesting list.

I like the non-fans to show up.
In the list of "fans" could have the 3 biggest fans. "I See a Darkness" is in my top 20 and I was not listed (too big the competition).
:D :D :D :D


I'm amazed at the failure of Pavement and the rap tracks.




I hope to be surprised with the list! :happy-partydance:
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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby DaveC » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:27 pm

Yes rap is having a bad time, but it had a bad time in the last 90s poll too while doing better in the all-time songs polls. Maybe something to do with the different scoring systems?




110. Disco Inferno - The Long Dance
Score: 959.2 pts
Year of Release: 1993 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: Bubbling (Bubbling all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 285
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 133

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109. Primal Scream - Movin' on Up
Score: 960.2 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#14 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 346 (2447 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 133
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Akhenaten(4), BangJan(15)
Not Fans: phil(137)





108. Bob Dylan - Blind Willie McTell
Score: 967.9 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#13 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 113 (969 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 304
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 67

Highest rank: Craig(18)
Not Fans: ChrisK(143), SafetyCat(141/149), Toni(139)





107. Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck
Score: 972.2 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#4 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 98 (874 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 51
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 98

Fans: Nassim(5), sonofsamiam(4)
Not Fans: Craig(130/133), DaveC(141), Henry(144)





106. The Verve - Lucky Man
Score: 973.1 pts
Year of Release: 1997 (#14 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 1354 (8618 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 172
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: CupOfDreams(7), Neil(4), Toni(14)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(143), LiveinPhoenix(146), sonofsamiam(143)





105. Madonna - Vogue
Score: 977.4 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#14 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 64 (632 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 107
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Elder(14), StevieFan13(12)
Not Fans: DaveC(144), maverick470(121/124), nicolas(149), Rob(149)





104. The Cranberries - Dreams
Score: 980.4 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#17 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 830 (5430 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 287
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Henry(7), StevieFan13(7)
Not Fans: BangJan(138), spiritualized(144/148), Toni(137)





103. The Smashing Pumpkins - Mayonaise
Score: 991.7 pts
Year of Release: 1993 (#14 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 479 (3371 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 274
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: nicolas(11)
Not Fans: Bruno(145), Dan(143), StevieFan13(139)





102. Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Nuthin' but a "G" Thang
Score: 991.8 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#2 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 16 (199 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 38
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Neil(11)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(148), Brad(143), DaveC(142), Listyguy(146), Nassim(139), phil(149), Rob(143)





101. Primal Scream - Loaded
Score: 1002.5 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#15 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 27 (332 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 105
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: BleuPanda(3)
Not Fans: ChrisK(140), Listyguy(141), LiveinPhoenix(147)

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Nassim » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:58 pm

DaveC wrote:133. Pavement - Fillmore Jive

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DaveC wrote:Yes rap is having a bad time, but it had a bad time in the last 90s poll too while doing better in the all-time songs polls. Maybe something to do with the different scoring systems?


It sure is impacted by the way the decade polls work, as all the songs are ranked, if a few people have a bias against one genre, it starts with a significant handicap ; in a direct poll, nobody can give negative point, you only push what you love up, so hip-hop struggles less. Probably also what hurts Mariah Carey, Pavement, post-rock and the rare electro songs that made the cut.
Though if I'm being honest, with a couple exceptions, I don't think we picked the very best of the genre to represent it on that round. Mama Said Knock You Out is imo pretty terrible, Onyx's "Let boys be boys" is not a sentence you'd want to hear by now, My Name Is, Hypnotize, Nuthin' But a G-Thang and California Love do nothing to me... Tons of hip-hop songs I'd rather have seen here.

On the other hand, Protect Ya Neck is a freaking masterpiece and should have been way higher ! I don't think there has ever been a track carried by that many rappers' charisma (though the yet to appear Scenario is a great contender), the beat is perfect, it's insanely quotable... heck even the intro skit is awesome !

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Rob » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:43 pm

I feel almost guilty for having Pavement in my bottom 15 three times. I hoped this poll would finally get me to appreciate them, but really I bar a couple of songs (like Here, which I quite like) I have a big problem getting into it. In much of these songs the instrumental part and the singing seem unconnected, and Malkmus way of singing doesn't seem any way musical to me, not even in a Lou Reed way, maybe because his lyrics seem to miss a poetry of their own. Many Pavement songs seem to have the instrumentals and the singer both vying for my attention separately, cancelling each other out in the process. It is a unique way of approaching music for sure, but as of yet it just doesn't connect with me.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Brad » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:11 am

Nassim wrote:
DaveC wrote:133. Pavement - Fillmore Jive

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lol - classic film (but didn't they both end up dying in the end?).
No matter, I've given up trying to convince this generation of Maroon 182 fans - as long as I "get" it, I'm good (but glad to know I have a partner)...
going to see Malkmus solo in May - he's still the man.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby luvulongTIM » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:23 am

Rob wrote:I feel almost guilty for having Pavement in my bottom 15 three times. I hoped this poll would finally get me to appreciate them, but really I bar a couple of songs (like Here, which I quite like) I have a big problem getting into it. In much of these songs the instrumental part and the singing seem unconnected, and Malkmus way of singing doesn't seem any way musical to me, not even in a Lou Reed way, maybe because his lyrics seem to miss a poetry of their own. Many Pavement songs seem to have the instrumentals and the singer both vying for my attention separately, cancelling each other out in the process. It is a unique way of approaching music for sure, but as of yet it just doesn't connect with me.


Amen!!!!! If I had voted Pavement would have ranked even lower. They’re very bland, dry and emotionless and I get nauseous whenever I see people clump them with Sonic Youth and Pixies. No way! Not even close. When I think of the actual word critics or indie music snobs this bad immediately comes the mind.
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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Live in Phoenix » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:36 am

luvulongTIM, I must admit I was expecting some kind of word-gasm when you found out that Bingenheimer finally got inducted here.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Brad » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:42 am

If I wasn't so pretentious, I might have been offended by this thread.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby DaveC » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:45 am

And now, I hope, a less controversial group of songs.






100. Sonic Youth - Kool Thing
Score: 1002.6 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#11 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 124 (1079 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 284
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 87

Fans: Brad(10), DaveC(15)
Not Fans: phil(145)





99. Talk Talk - Ascension Day
Score: 1004 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#18 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: Bubbling (Bubbling all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 292
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: rumpdoll(5)
Not Fans: andyd1010(140), BleuPanda(137), Bruno(143), Neil(147), StevieFan13(148)





98. The Cardigans - Lovefool
Score: 1005.3 pts
Year of Release: 1996 (#7 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 241 (1803 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 295
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 121

Fans: SafetyCat(10)
Not Fans: CupOfDreams(141), Listyguy(144)





97. My Bloody Valentine - When You Sleep
Score: 1005.4 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#4 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 517 (3616 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 36
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: BangJan(13), Brad(9), rumpdoll(9)
Not Fans: ChrisK(139), FrankLotion(106/106), Henry(136), maverick470(117/124), Nassim(145), Neil(138), SafetyCat(144/149), StevieFan13(149)





96. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Score: 1005.7 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#12 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 261 (1916 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 79
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Rob(8), starchman46(7)
Not Fans: Bruno(147), rumpdoll(141)





95. Beastie Boys - Intergalactic
Score: 1007.9 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#11 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 93 (847 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 118
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 84

Fans: Nassim(13)
Lowest rank: DaveC(134)





94. Saint Etienne - Avenue
Score: 1011.6 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#11 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 969 (6289 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: >350
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: BangJan(3), sonofsamiam(15)
Not Fans: andyd1010(147), Bruno(148), nicolas(140)

LiveinPhoenix: The So Tough album cover was featured in my Spin music guide, and in that pre-YouTube era, the odds seemed like I'd never actually get around to St. Etienne. As it turned out, this song ended up being my favorite poll discovery. Incidentally, the vocals sounds like Grimes 15 years ahead of schedule.





93. Michael Jackson - Black or White
Score: 1019.7 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#16 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 371 (2612 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 257
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Bruno(1), SafetyCat(13), Toni(6)
Not Fans: BangJan(143), BleuPanda(146), CupOfDreams(144), Elder(147), Rob(141), sonofsamiam(145)





92. Beck - Where It's At
Score: 1021.1 pts
Year of Release: 1996 (#2 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 38 (434 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 112
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 93

Highest rank: BangJan(21)
Not Fans: DaveC(137), spiritualized(135/148), starchman46(80/87)





91. Pet Shop Boys - Being Boring
Score: 1022.7 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 147 (1282 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 85
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 96

Fans: Elder(4), LiveinPhoenix(3), Neil(15)
Not Fans: andyd1010(136), Nassim(149), phil(147)

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Jap123 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:23 am

I'm really surprised at the relative unpopularity of the more alternative acts here (MBV, Pavement, Talk Talk etc.). I always assumed they would be forum favourites

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby DaveC » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:05 pm

I too was surprised by the number of low rankings for MBV.

Bafflingly, Bjork too has detractors.



90. DJ Shadow - Midnight in a Perfect World
Score: 1023.8 pts
Year of Release: 1996 (#9 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 137 (1158 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 70
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Elder(6), rumpdoll(8)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(145), maverick470(120/124), SafetyCat(142/149)





89. The Beta Band - Dry the Rain
Score: 1027.3 pts
Year of Release: 1997 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 112 (967 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 120
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 41

Fans: rumpdoll(4)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(138), Craig(120/133), LiveinPhoenix(138)





88. Massive Attack - Angel
Score: 1033 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#7 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: Bubbling (Bubbling all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 178
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: BangJan(9), sonofsamiam(10)
Not Fans: andyd1010(141), Craig(128/133), Neil(139), SafetyCat(137/149), StevieFan13(145)





87. Björk - Venus as a Boy
Score: 1033.3 pts
Year of Release: 1993 (#9 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 192 (1505 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 130
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Elder(7)
Not Fans: FrankLotion(100/106), maverick470(118/124), Neil(144), SafetyCat(145/149), StevieFan13(137)

Henry: Bjork placed 6 songs in our top 150 - clearly outperforming her 7th place AM artist rating for the decade.





86. The Notorious B.I.G. - Juicy
Score: 1034.9 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#9 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 49 (540 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 68
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 86

Fans: BleuPanda(6), Listyguy(1)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(144), ChrisK(149), CupOfDreams(143), DaveC(149), Henry(146), spiritualized(145/148)





85. Madonna - Ray of Light
Score: 1035 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#3 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 60 (600 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 60
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Dan(8), Neil(14)
Not Fans: CupOfDreams(137), nicolas(145), rumpdoll(143)





84. A Tribe Called Quest - Scenario
Score: 1035 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 167 (1401 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 58
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Nassim(10)
Not Fans: DaveC(140), SafetyCat(147/149), Toni(145)





83. Björk - Isobel
Score: 1047.6 pts
Year of Release: 1995 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 1261 (8011 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 99
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 29

Fans: bonnielaurel(1), sonofsamiam(6)
Not Fans: maverick470(114/124), Neil(150), SafetyCat(148/149)





82. Björk - Human Behaviour
Score: 1057.4 pts
Year of Release: 1993 (#10 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 178 (1442 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 129
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 91

Fans: bonnielaurel(10)
Lowest rank: Henry(135)





81. Manic Street Preachers - Motorcycle Emptiness
Score: 1062.5 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#13 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 92 (841 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 109
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: DaveC(13), Dan(15), Rob(5)
Not Fans: Bruno(144), CupOfDreams(147)

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Rob » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:43 am

And so Björk refuses to appear and so she has three entries in one update. I wonder if everything by her will show up soon. I always have a feeling that she is a very love it or hate it artist, meaning that people who like her have everything by her ranked high and people who don't have everything low, so it would make sense if the ratings are close together. We'll see.

Human Behavior is probably the song I listened most to thanks of this poll. I fell for it all of a sudden.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby rumpdoll » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:57 am

Interestingly for me she's mostly a like not love artist. I have all her songs somewhere between place 25 and 80. But I would guess too that most of her songs will show up soon.

By the way how can somebody dislike "Dry the rain"? I get it when its mostly listed at middling places, but near the end?

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

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80. Pulp - This is Hardcore
Score: 1065.4 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#13 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 123 (1076 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 201
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 74

Fans: BangJan(8), Nassim(12), rumpdoll(13)
Not Fans: Bruno(137), Dan(137)





79. Blur - Coffee and TV
Score: 1067.2 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#5 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 290 (2165 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: >350
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 90

Fans: SafetyCat(7), spiritualized(9)
Not Fans: Elder(136), LiveinPhoenix(143), Rob(142)

LiveinPhoenix: Blur can't seem to do much that interests me. Oddly enough, Damon Albarn turned things around for me when he pretended to be a gorilla.





78. Deee-Lite - Groove is in the Heart
Score: 1073.6 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#4 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 28 (336 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 50
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 101

Fans: Dan(10), LiveinPhoenix(4), rumpdoll(10)
Not Fans: ChrisK(146), DaveC(145), Listyguy(138), Rob(148)





77. Fatboy Slim - The Rockafeller Skank
Score: 1078.2 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#6 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 43 (469 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 157
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 95

Fans: Dan(13), SafetyCat(8), Toni(5)
Not Fans: BangJan(141), ChrisK(137), DaveC(138), Elder(139), Henry(147), Listyguy(147), sonofsamiam(144)

LiveinPhoenix: It was especially taxing that music like this was pushed on me right after the alternative guitar rock scene abruptly fell apart. Isolated by its lonesome, this sort of DJ music seems awfully slight; the music videos are usually above-average, though.





76. Björk - Jöga
Score: 1083.3 pts
Year of Release: 1997 (#13 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 243 (1805 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 73
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 45

Fans: nicolas(3)
Not Fans: Neil(142)





75. Aimee Mann - Save Me
Score: 1084.3 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#2 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 497 (3526 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 241
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Akhenaten(13), CupOfDreams(3), Neil(9), Rob(7)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(140), Craig(121/133), Toni(146)

CupOfDreams: Magnolia is one of my All-Time favorite films and this song fits perfectly.





74. The Smashing Pumpkins - Disarm
Score: 1085.1 pts
Year of Release: 1993 (#11 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 176 (1436 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 54
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 61

Fans: Listyguy(14), Nassim(15)
Not Fans: FrankLotion(97/106)





73. Tori Amos - Silent All These Years
Score: 1092.3 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#17 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 576 (3916 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 177
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: bonnielaurel(2), Neil(12), StevieFan13(14)
Lowest rank: Listyguy(126)





72. The Cure - Friday I'm in Love
Score: 1096.2 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 122 (1068 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 62
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 83

Fans: Akhenaten(5)
Not Fans: CupOfDreams(146), Nassim(144)

CupOfDreams: If I were to rank every Cure song, it would be bottom 3. A Cure song for people who don't really like the Cure.





71. DJ Shadow - Building Steam with a Grain of Salt
Score: 1103.8 pts
Year of Release: 1996 (#1 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 269 (1960 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 67
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 56

Fans: Listyguy(12), Nassim(3), rumpdoll(11), sonofsamiam(2)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(147), Craig(122/133), FrankLotion(104/106), maverick470(119/124)

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Nassim » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:07 am

« Friday I’m In Love » is a fun example of cultural divide in my opinion.

If Wikipedia is to be believe, 14 Cure songs charted in France, Friday I’m In Love didn’t (High, from the same album, did), and while Close to Me, Boys Don’t Cry, Just Like Heaven or In Between Days are staples of rock radios, and you sometimes hear Lullaby or Lovesong, I don’t think I ever heard Friday I’m In Love on there growing up. So imagine my surprise when I discovered it was the one on heavy rotation in the US and that everybody seemed to know it.
Similarly, all the Cure albums since the Head on the Door made it to the top 10 in the French charts, except Wish, one of the 2 that achieved the same feat in the US.
So, do I dislike it because I’m French ? Probably not, that’d be an unsatisfying reason (and I have friends who love it), but for a Cure song, it seems way too restrained and unconvincing, rarely do Robert Smith seem less into what he is singing. It’s not an issue of being upbeat, The Cure can pull that magnificently, but when you listen to The Lovecats for instance, you can really hear the excitement in all instruments and in Smith’s delivery. Friday, on the other hand, just falls flat to my hears.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Akhenaten » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:43 am

Rob wrote:And so Björk refuses to appear and so she has three entries in one update. I wonder if everything by her will show up soon. I always have a feeling that she is a very love it or hate it artist, meaning that people who like her have everything by her ranked high and people who don't have everything low, so it would make sense if the ratings are close together. We'll see.


I ranked the Björk tracks as 12, 43, 81, 85, 97 & 116. (Also, if Play Dead was in the list, I'd have it in the top 3. Army of Me would've top 10 too).

So, personally, well as you can see, I've not got her tracks all ranked high or all ranked low. But, I have got a love/hate thing with her. Some of her songs I absolutely love, others I just don't get.
When you say it's gonna happen "now"
When exactly do you mean?

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Rob » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:26 pm

Akhenaten wrote:
Rob wrote:And so Björk refuses to appear and so she has three entries in one update. I wonder if everything by her will show up soon. I always have a feeling that she is a very love it or hate it artist, meaning that people who like her have everything by her ranked high and people who don't have everything low, so it would make sense if the ratings are close together. We'll see.


I ranked the Björk tracks as 12, 43, 81, 85, 97 & 116. (Also, if Play Dead was in the list, I'd have it in the top 3. Army of Me would've top 10 too).

So, personally, well as you can see, I've not got her tracks all ranked high or all ranked low. But, I have got a love/hate thing with her. Some of her songs I absolutely love, others I just don't get.


To be fair, despite what I wrote I have the same thing as you and my votes for her were spread out too. Although I feel that with Björk it isn't so much a song to song thing as an album to album case, unsuprising as her albums tend to have a very uniform sound. So songs from the first three albums as well as Vulnicura do generally well with me, but the ones from for example Vespertine and the impenetrable (to me) Utopia somehow fail to captivate me. Still, I like that she dares to find a new sound for each album even if it doesn't always connect with me personally.

Very happy to see Save Me make the top half of the list, albeit barely. Thought it wouldn't make the top 100, so that is a nice surprise.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby BleuPanda » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:16 pm

I think an important thing when considering lows here is that sometimes they're simply low among the pack. There's only two songs among these 150 that I would give less than a 7/10, and about 120 are in the top 3000 update I'm currently working on. I'm usually on the more extreme end with my taste lining up with the general critic/forum taste, but I'm sure there are a few of us who like most of these songs but still had to rank something last due to the nature of the system.

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Postby Live in Phoenix » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:05 pm

I'm not trying to knock anyone's ice cream off their cone, but I seem to like rock music that is kind of larger than life, and Beta Band -- and they'd hardly be the only indie rockers like this -- seem like some very ordinary people. (The name choice of the band might even be speaking to this.) A current example in the other direction would be the Swans -- who are not a new band but I've been enjoying their Seer album, and will likely enjoy their followup.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Rocky Raccoon » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:55 pm

CupOfDreams: If I were to rank every Cure song, it would be bottom 3. A Cure song for people who don't really like the Cure.

This quote accurately describes me.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby StevieFan13 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:21 pm

Rocky Raccoon wrote:CupOfDreams: If I were to rank every Cure song, it would be bottom 3. A Cure song for people who don't really like the Cure.

This quote accurately describes me.

I mean, uh...I’d consider myself a Cure fan and it’s at least top 5 for me. And this is even taking into account all their other stuff.
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Postby Listyguy » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:02 pm

Rocky Raccoon wrote:CupOfDreams: If I were to rank every Cure song, it would be bottom 3. A Cure song for people who don't really like the Cure.

This quote accurately describes me.


I wouldn't go that far personally, but I definitely wouldn't rank it among my favorites.

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Postby CupOfDreams » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:17 pm

Didn't mean to stir up controversy with my comment on "Friday I'm In Love". I think for a lot of older Cure fans like myself who were into the band long before this song came out it was a huge disappointment. While it's true they had some mainstream success in the US since 1987, this song seemed to appeal more to people who were not necessarily big fans of the band than those who were big fans of the band in the 80s. I realize that those who were not around or too young at that time may view it differently.

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Postby Live in Phoenix » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:55 pm

Hadn't Robert Smith done a lot of pop moves before that? Off the top of my head, In Between Days and Why Can't I Be You? would seem like a major shift for Pornography fans.

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Postby DaveC » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:04 pm

Coming up the highest ranked song only bubbling on AM.




70. The Smashing Pumpkins - Today
Score: 1104.5 pts
Year of Release: 1993 (#7 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 125 (1081 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 174
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 38

Fans: ChrisK(6), maverick470(7)
Not Fans: Elder(137)





69. Weezer - Buddy Holly
Score: 1104.8 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#7 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 61 (603 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 71
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 104

Fans: andyd1010(14), phil(2)
Not Fans: Rob(145), rumpdoll(139)





68. Ms. Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing)
Score: 1105.7 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#5 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 68 (676 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 132
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Bruno(6), Elder(11)
Lowest rank: BangJan(118)





67. Portishead - Roads
Score: 1111.6 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#18 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 848 (5532 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 88
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 31

Fans: Nassim(6), rumpdoll(2), spiritualized(5)
Not Fans: Neil(136)





66. Nine Inch Nails - Closer
Score: 1116.1 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#8 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 46 (485 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 43
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: FrankLotion(4), LiveinPhoenix(12), spiritualized(4)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(143), Henry(137), nicolas(142)





65. Air - Sexy Boy
Score: 1118.8 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#9 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 96 (863 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 126
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 59

Fans: Brad(11), CupOfDreams(9)
Lowest rank: Akhenaten(132)





64. R.E.M. - Find the River
Score: 1119.6 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#10 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: Bubbling
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 116
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: Brad(2), nicolas(14)
Not Fans: rumpdoll(136)





63. The Cranberries - Zombie
Score: 1124.1 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#11 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 160 (1364 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 64
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: bonnielaurel(5), DaveC(1), Neil(13), SafetyCat(1)
Not Fans: Elder(140), FrankLotion(102/106), sonofsamiam(141)





62. Mercury Rev - Holes
Score: 1127.6 pts
Year of Release: 1998 (#4 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 563 (3876 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 173
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 37

Fans: BangJan(1), sonofsamiam(9)
Not Fans: Listyguy(137), SafetyCat(146/149)

Henry: This song has been growing on me during the past few months.





61. Manic Street Preachers - A Design for Life
Score: 1129.8 pts
Year of Release: 1996 (#4 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 116 (985 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 92
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 144

Fans: Akhenaten(1), DaveC(5)
Not Fans: CupOfDreams(148), Nassim(147)

DaveC: Everything about this song says top ten of the decade to me. It's relatively low positions in polls just seems anachronous.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Sweepstakes Ron » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:28 pm

So... which Radiohead song will be the first to drop?
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Postby CupOfDreams » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:34 pm

Live in Phoenix wrote:Hadn't Robert Smith done a lot of pop moves before that? Off the top of my head, In Between Days and Why Can't I Be You? would seem like a major shift for Pornography fans.


Yes. "Boys Don't Cry" is an even earlier example of a pure pop song. The Cure always had elements of pop in their music even in their darker days. I guess "Friday I'm In Love" just came across as a more blatant attempt at mainstream success to me. Obviously a lot of people love this song, and I believe it's the 5th or 6th highest ranked Cure song on AM. Ironically the band's mainstream popularity didn't last long after this, nor did their critical appeal. I think the lasting influence of the Cure is pretty much the 80s output.

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60. They Might Be Giants - Birdhouse in Your Soul
Score: 1136.8 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#5 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 251 (1829 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 86
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 146

Fans: Akhenaten(11), BangJan(12), phil(1), StevieFan13(3)
Not Fans: rumpdoll(140)

LiveinPhoenix: That's an awfully nasally voice, but there's no use resisting TMBG here. (Random comment: Whenever I look at my Poliwrath pokemon, I think of the video to this song.)





59. Stereolab - French Disko
Score: 1144.9 pts
Year of Release: 1993 (#5 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 472 (3306 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 98
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 63

Fans: BangJan(10), CupOfDreams(6), rumpdoll(1), spiritualized(8)
Not Fans: andyd1010(145), ChrisK(141), Craig(126/133)

CupOfDreams: Simply addictive.

LiveinPhoenix: Sort of like the Velvet Underground meets French sing-along pop. Easy to like.





58. Blur - Tender
Score: 1148.1 pts
Year of Release: 1999 (#3 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 297 (2202 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 270
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 103

Fans: ChrisK(8), StevieFan13(6)
Not Fans: LiveinPhoenix(142)





57. Weezer - Say It Ain't So
Score: 1152.1 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#6 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 85 (812 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 39
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: andyd1010(2), phil(6)
Not Fans: Akhenaten(138), Dan(142), nicolas(143), rumpdoll(148)





56. R.E.M. - Drive
Score: 1152.5 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#12 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 213 (1599 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 94
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 50

Fans: CupOfDreams(11), Listyguy(7), Toni(11)
Lowest rank: sonofsamiam(132)

LiveinPhoenix: I remember recording the video for this on VHS (!) off of Friday Night Videos (!!), after seeing a segment on the filming of it on Entertainment Tonight (!!!). As the lead single, I wanted this to be their next "Losing My Religion", but if that was any song on this album, it was "Man on the Moon."





55. Björk - Hyper-Ballad
Score: 1157.5 pts
Year of Release: 1995 (#7 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 87 (814 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 29
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 49

Fans: BleuPanda(11), bonnielaurel(3), DaveC(12), Elder(1)
Not Fans: andyd1010(142), FrankLotion(96/106), maverick470(112/124), SafetyCat(139/149)





54. R.E.M. - Nightswimming
Score: 1160.1 pts
Year of Release: 1992 (#3 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 244 (1806 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 76
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 17

Fans: Brad(15), Listyguy(3)
Lowest rank: Bruno(132)





53. Pearl Jam - Black
Score: 1163.2 pts
Year of Release: 1991 (#10 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 403 (2854 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 27
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: FrankLotion(7), maverick470(9), phil(14)
Not Fans: Craig(129/133), spiritualized(138/148)





52. My Bloody Valentine - Soon
Score: 1172.5 pts
Year of Release: 1990 (#3 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 79 (759 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 66
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: 33

Fans: BangJan(5), CupOfDreams(2), sonofsamiam(1), spiritualized(11)
Not Fans: nicolas(147), StevieFan13(140)





51. Green Day - Basket Case
Score: 1180.4 pts
Year of Release: 1994 (#3 in year poll)
AM 1990s songs rank: 74 (732 all-time)
AMF 2018 All-time poll 1990s rank: 33
AMF 2012 1990s poll rank: N/A

Fans: phil(8), StevieFan13(8)
Not Fans: BangJan(136), Brad(137), CupOfDreams(136)

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Elder » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:28 pm

And the great loser of the second part of the research was Bjork.
That sad...
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Nirvana and Radiohead have 25% of the top 50 this leaves a tedious list.
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But the result is very similar to previous forum polls, so it's no surprise.
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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby DaveC » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:46 pm

The first Radiohead song will drop at #50: The only song in the 50-41 range to perform worse than it did in the all-time songs poll last year.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Rob » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:01 pm

Elder wrote:Nirvana and Radiohead have 25% of the top 50 this leaves a tedious list.


Yes, I was just thinking how striking it is that all of their songs made the top 50. It is a bit much, although I ranked the Radiohead's rather favorably myself, so I'm part of the problem. With Nirvana, not so much, they are very spread out over my list.

A bigger surprise is that French Disko and Birdhouse in Your Soul ranked so high. I thought they would be in the bottom 50 for sure. Birdhouse made a huge jump compared to the last 90's poll, but French Disko was apparently already very popular last time around. I never knew.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby StevieFan13 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:47 pm

Rob wrote:
Elder wrote:Nirvana and Radiohead have 25% of the top 50 this leaves a tedious list.


Yes, I was just thinking how striking it is that all of their songs made the top 50. It is a bit much, although I ranked the Radiohead's rather favorably myself, so I'm part of the problem. With Nirvana, not so much, they are very spread out over my list.

A bigger surprise is that French Disko and Birdhouse in Your Soul ranked so high. I thought they would be in the bottom 50 for sure. Birdhouse made a huge jump compared to the last 90's poll, but French Disko was apparently already very popular last time around. I never knew.

I'm the reverse. Nirvana made up a decent chunk of my top 50 (I know for sure one of them was my #1) but Radiohead was spread out. I'm almost positive I'll be the lowest vote for Street Spirit (Fade Out).
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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby andyd1010 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:55 pm

Count me among the people who isn't that into The Cure but loves Friday I'm in Love.

My brain has a hard time comprehending the notion that people exist who do not like Say It Ain't So. Surprised it has 4 "Not Fans."

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby Listyguy » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:59 am

Surprised to see the two R.E.M. songs fall outside of the top 50, and so close together.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby prosecutorgodot » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:41 am

andyd1010 wrote:My brain has a hard time comprehending the notion that people exist who do not like Say It Ain't So. Surprised it has 4 "Not Fans."

Yes, I would like to hear from the people who don't like "Buddy Holly," and thoughts on Weezer in general.

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Re: [Results] Songs of the 1990s

Postby rumpdoll » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:10 am

prosecutorgodot wrote:
andyd1010 wrote:My brain has a hard time comprehending the notion that people exist who do not like Say It Ain't So. Surprised it has 4 "Not Fans."

Yes, I would like to hear from the people who don't like "Buddy Holly," and thoughts on Weezer in general.

Well, i'm probably underating their first albums a bit because they became so insufferable over time. But to be honest even teen me back in the nineties thought they were kind of boring.


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