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Post by Hymie » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:05 am

No, I have no problem with those other tracks, although I prefer this re-recording of the Mahalia Jackson record from 1955:


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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Henrik » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:21 am

This discussion seems to go pretty well. Let’s keep it friendly!
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Rob » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:38 am

35. Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction
Year: 2010
From the album: Nightmare
Biggest Fan: Andy1010 (#807)

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by PlasticRam » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:30 am

Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction: 4
I feel like that

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Romain » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:53 am

35. Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction

Not bad. A melodic metal band with an interesting jerky melody 5/10

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Post by fasbjd » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:03 pm

Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction

It’s hard to hear the song outside of its context. It was written by their late drummer who gave his band mates the demo 3 days prior to his overdose death. While not ruled a suicide (pre-existing enlarged heart was deemed a factor in his death), many see the song as a suicide note...and listening to the lyrics it is obvious why.

As for the song, it’s dark and proggy. The drums are overpowering, which makes sense given the background. I think it’s the best song by the band, but admittedly, I’m not a huge fan of the band. 6

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Hymie » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:58 pm

Rob wrote:35. Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction

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Post by andyd1010 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:36 pm

fasbjd wrote:Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction

It’s hard to hear the song outside of its context. It was written by their late drummer who gave his band mates the demo 3 days prior to his overdose death. While not ruled a suicide (pre-existing enlarged heart was deemed a factor in his death), many see the song as a suicide note...and listening to the lyrics it is obvious why.

As for the song, it’s dark and proggy. The drums are overpowering, which makes sense given the background. I think it’s the best song by the band, but admittedly, I’m not a huge fan of the band. 6
I'm impressed someone here knows the context of an Avenged Sevenfold song! Funny that this song came up as Love Will Tear Us Apart is being debated on the other thread, and after talking about the emotion in modern singers. Unpopular opinion here, I know, but personally I've never felt much of any emotion from Joy Division, only through knowing the context. But the way The Rev belts out "Let it burn" is palpable for me and made all the more poignant by the context.

The only thing that keeps me from giving this a 10 is the beginning of the outro, which seems like an unfinished take before his death.

Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction: 9.5

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Rob » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:16 pm

Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction: 6

Knowing some Avenged Sevenfold, I was expecting a straight-up metal song, but for a long time I got just some gentle piano playing. From there on out it develops into a kind of heave metal ballad in the mold of Queensrÿche's Silent Lucidity. I didn't think they made these anymore anno 2010. I can like these kind of things from time to time and this one is quite good, although I think that nothing quite beats that wordless piano opening, regardless of the back story (thanks fasbjd, for providing some context). Perhaps this will become a grower.

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Post by spiritualized » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:19 pm

Hymie wrote: I mean, this site is great and all, but I hope nobody really believes that acts like Radiohead, Nirvana and the Velvet Underground are more significant in musical history than Bing Crosby, Al Jolson and Ella Fitzgerald.
I think that this is a bit short-sighted.
It's like saying that Attila the Hun was more significant in history than Stalin, or for a better analogy, Jesus was more significant than Gandhi. It's a matter of experience in your lifetime. I certainly was more influenced by Nirvana than Al Jolson, the latter just had half a century to be more significant.

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Post by DaveC » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:46 pm

StevieFan13 wrote:
Hymie wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote: At some point I’m going to try and make a “non-covers from the last thirty years that Hymie would like” playlist.
Have at it!
Here you go. Happy to dig for more if these don’t tickle your fancy.
[spotifyplaylist]https://open.spotify.com/user/121516985 ... sIDHIrwbJg[/spotifyplaylist]
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by DaveC » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:59 pm

spiritualized wrote:
Hymie wrote: I mean, this site is great and all, but I hope nobody really believes that acts like Radiohead, Nirvana and the Velvet Underground are more significant in musical history than Bing Crosby, Al Jolson and Ella Fitzgerald.
I think that this is a bit short-sighted.
It's like saying that Attila the Hun was more significant in history than Stalin, or for a better analogy, Jesus was more significant than Gandhi. It's a matter of experience in your lifetime. I certainly was more influenced by Nirvana than Al Jolson, the latter just had half a century to be more significant.
The great calypso singer Atilla the Hun is indeed significant in music history. Stalin not so much.

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Brad » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:35 pm

Jesus Jones was pretty bad

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by StevieFan13 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:59 pm

Nirvana never did blackface. That’s a plus.
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Hymie » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:05 am

spiritualized wrote:
Hymie wrote: I mean, this site is great and all, but I hope nobody really believes that acts like Radiohead, Nirvana and the Velvet Underground are more significant in musical history than Bing Crosby, Al Jolson and Ella Fitzgerald.
I think that this is a bit short-sighted.
It's like saying that Attila the Hun was more significant in history than Stalin, or for a better analogy, Jesus was more significant than Gandhi. It's a matter of experience in your lifetime. I certainly was more influenced by Nirvana than Al Jolson, the latter just had half a century to be more significant.
It's not about who was a bigger influence one a particular person or one's personal opinion of an act's music. It's about the objective achievements of each act. Your examples are way off though. If Bing Crosby is Atilla the Hun then Nirvana is like Tanya Harding. Crosby was SO MUCH bigger and more influential in his day than Nirvana was in their day that's it's a joke to put them on equal footing here. Bing has one single that likely has sold more copies than every Nirvana record combined, and that's with Bing being at a big disadvantage because of the era he was part of.

Bing had over 300 singles that made the top 20, including 36 number one singles. Nirvana had ONE single that made the top 20. Nivana's entire catalog is like 50 songs, maybe fewer than that. Bing's catalog is well over 1,000 songs.

Bing was the most influential act ever on vocalists, including being the biggest influence on Frank Sinatra. Nirvana essentially has one song that the mainstream world is familiar with.

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Hymie » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:12 am

DaveC wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:
Hymie wrote:
Have at it!
Here you go. Happy to dig for more if these don’t tickle your fancy.
[spotifyplaylist]https://open.spotify.com/user/121516985 ... sIDHIrwbJg[/spotifyplaylist]
Delete the ? and everything after it and delete the s from https:

Okay, I was able to get there. I've heard "Uptown Funk" before, that's pretty good. Nothing else there that I liked at all.

Did you listen to any of the tracks that I listed as my favorites from this century?

They will give you an idea of what I am looking for. Pretty much unless it is done in a much older style I am not gonna like it.

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by StevieFan13 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:21 am

I very deliberately tried to find more retro-sounding songs. I could’ve sworn you’d go for some of them. I even included Alabama Shakes, and you mentioned liking one of their songs.
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Henrik » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:24 am

I’m glad I woke up from my sleep, because whenever people debate about different artists’ objective achievements, the discussion always derails completely. I intend to sleep several more hours, so I will lock this topic for a while and open it up again when it’s time for Rob to add another fan song. Please don’t start another topic to continue that discussion. Thank you.
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Rob » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:32 am

Please keep things civil.

36. Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by PlasticRam » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:33 am

Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong: 4
I feel like that

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Romain » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:21 am

36. Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong

Ouch, the Genesis 80's synthesizer hurts nowadays. I think I would like it more with a current production... or older production :-) 4,5/10

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Hymie » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:21 pm

Rob wrote:Please keep things civil.
Nothing was uncivil. It's Henrik' site, but IMO there was nothing wrong with what we were discussing.
Rob wrote: 36. Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong
Good singer, nice song, would be much better IMO without the synthesizers and with real instruments.

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by StevieFan13 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:44 pm

Yeah, I think Hymie and I were just having a little debate. No malice from either of us.
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Post by ordinaryperson » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:24 pm

Fergie, featuring Ludacris - Glamorous: 3
Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction: 5
Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong: 6
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Listyguy » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:29 pm

StevieFan13 wrote:Yeah, I think Hymie and I were just having a little debate. No malice from either of us.
Hymie wrote:
Rob wrote:Please keep things civil.
Nothing was uncivil. It's Henrik' site, but IMO there was nothing wrong with what we were discussing.
Rob wrote: 36. Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong
Good singer, nice song, would be much better IMO without the synthesizers and with real instruments.

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Refer to this thread: http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/vi ... sby#p26682

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Post by Hymie » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:31 pm

Listyguy wrote:
Refer to this thread: http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/vi ... sby#p26682
Nothing wrong with that discussion either.

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Post by Henrik » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:32 pm

Hymie wrote:
Listyguy wrote:
Refer to this thread: http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/vi ... sby#p26682
Nothing wrong with that discussion either.
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by DaveC » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:25 pm

34. Fergie, featuring Ludacris - Glamorous: 5
35. Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction: 4
36. Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong: 3

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33. Riot – You Burn in Me 80's hair metal not my cuppa tea 2
34. Fergie, featuring Ludacris - Glamorous 2
35. Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction 4
Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong 3

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Post by Brad » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:59 am

31. Girls in Hawaii - Catwalk 7.25
32. Jenny Lewis – Acid Tongue 5
33. Riot – You Burn in Me 2.5
34. Fergie, featuring Ludacris - Glamorous 3
35. Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction 6.5
36. Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong 3

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Rob » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:44 am

Another week, another Zombeels pick. Also the first artist who appears for the second time in this series:

37. Queen – All Dead, All Dead
Year: 1977
From the album: News of the World
Biggest Fan: Zombeels (#105)

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by PlasticRam » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:26 am

Queen – All Dead, All Dead: 5
I feel like that

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Hymie » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:26 pm

Rob wrote:Queen – All Dead, All Dead
4

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Rob » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:53 pm

Labi Siffre - (Something Inside) So Strong: 8
A case were I'm somewhat surprised at the low ratings it get here. I have a more strong reaction to this. Let me elaborate.
A couple of months ago I heard this song played through the speakers of public area I pass through mostly daily on my way to work. They seem to mostly play ballads from the seventies, eighties and nineties for some reason. This time it stood out to me, because I think I hadn't heard it for ages. I don't think it is played much anymore anywhere and because it is no longer a common sound it brought me back to a time when this song was still a presence. It was released some months before my birth, but I remember this one being around when growing up and hearing it again I was brought back to feeling like a little kid, probably before the age of ten.

Back in the day this song struck me deeply, which wasn't exactly a given, as I really got into the music when I was in my late teens. I don't think I completely grasped what the song was about (although the lyrics are simple enough to be understood with the basic English I knew than), but it sounded profound to me.

The weird thing is that even after listening to it some eight times (if I counted correctly) over the past two days this effect hasn't waned. There were a couple of songs from my youth that seemed deep at the time, but seem schmaltzy, kitschy or even ridiculous when I got older - here's looking at Bryan Adams' (Everything I Do) I Do It For You, Bon Jovi's It's My Life and John Farnham's You're the Voice. So Strong doesn't quite suffer this fate. Yes, the lyrics are simple, but not overdone. Yes, the production is very much of it's time and unfashionable for today, but compared to a lot of similar ballads of it's age it is tastefully done. Above all there is something about Labi Siffre's voice that just sounds sincere and affecting. It finds a mixture between pathos and pride that usually leads to the worst schmaltz, but here evokes a simple honesty. Call me crazy, but to me it is a Many Rivers to Cross for the eighties (Siffre's vocals remind of Jimmy Cliff's somehow). Learning a bit about Siffre's gay background adds a little touch to it, but it already worked without that knowledge.

So this is a half forgotten hit, without acclaim and little love here, but I kind of love this song. Might just make my top 1000 in a few years.



Oh, and there is also this song:

Queen - All Dead, All Dead: 5
Kind of funny how we got two Queen song by now, but both don't manage to not have Freddy Mercury as a lead singer. This one is a little Good Company, but also less memorable. Personally I have no problem understanding why they both don't belong to the band's big classics.

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Zombeels » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:18 am

37. Queen – All Dead, All Dead My favourite Queen song. 10


On the 40th Anniversary Edition of the album there is a version with Freddie doing the vocals,

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Rob » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:38 am

We already had a cover of a Peruvian song through The Shining Path, but I think it is time for a recording directly from Peru. It is actually on AM, at #9539:

38. Los Saicos - Demolición
Year: 1965
Released as a single
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Post by Romain » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:41 pm

37. Queen – All Dead, All Dead
A sweet ballad, the melody on the piano is very beautiful, a good (re)discovery 7/10

38. Los Saicos - Demolición
:music-rockon: Punk is not my favorite genre but, in the genre, the song is rather pleasant and melodic 5/10

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by PlasticRam » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:51 pm

Los Saicos - Demolición: 5
I feel like that

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Hymie » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:12 pm

Rob wrote:Los Saicos - Demolición
4

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Post by Rob » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:01 pm

Los Saicos - Demolición: 8

A very good discovery! It seems like the Peruvian answer to Surfin' Bird by The Trashmen, what with these wacky vocals and the surf guitar. Like Surfin' Bird it sounds much wilder than anything else around. Hack, the wild energy could pass for garage rock and maybe even - as Romain suggests - punk. Es desternillante! (please Google Translate, don't fail me now)

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Post by Rob » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:12 am

39. KT Tunstall – Suddenly I See
Year: 2005
Album: Eye to the Telescope
Biggest Fan: Kaue (#323)

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by PlasticRam » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:20 am

KT Tunstall – Suddenly I See: 6
I feel like that

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Post by Akhenaten » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:16 am

31. Girls in Hawaii - Catwalk - 5
32. Jenny Lewis – Acid Tongue - 5
33. Riot – You Burn in Me - 2.5
34. Fergie, featuring Ludacris - Glamorous - 1.5
35. Avenged Sevenfold - Fiction - 7.5
36. Labi Siffre – (Something Inside) So Strong - 9
37. Queen – All Dead, All Dead - 5.5
38. Los Saicos - Demolición - 6.5
39. KT Tunstall – Suddenly I See - 8
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Hymie » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:39 pm

Rob wrote:39. KT Tunstall – Suddenly I See
6

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Post by andyd1010 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:03 pm

Fergie, featuring Ludacris - Glamorous - 3
Los Saicos - Demolición - 3.5
KT Tunstall – Suddenly I See - 8.5

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Rob » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:05 pm

KT Tunstall – Suddenly I See: 7

KT Tunstall, it's been too long! I remember very well when this song was frequently on the radio and it was always nice if it was on. I even turned it on myself for a short time, despite not being a typical song I would go for. KT Tunstall hasn't remained in the spotlight since then and she and this song seem halfway forgotten, so it is nice to be reminded that this still exist. There is something about Tunstall's delivery. Her voice is not a powerhouse, but it some girl-next-door kind of charm and her vocals are just the right kind of upbeat. It's hardly the most amazing thing ever created, but it sounds happy not being that.

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by StevieFan13 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:19 pm

Man, how’d that one miss my list? One of my favorite songs from when I was a kid. Suddenly I See is an 8.
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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Henry » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:26 pm

KT Tunstall – Suddenly I See: 7 (comes in at 3835 of my all-time faves)

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Romain » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:59 pm

39. KT Tunstall – Suddenly I See
A nice and catchy pop song. I admit that I didn't know the singer or that it was a "real song", I think I've only ever heard it in commercials before. 6/10

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Re: Biggest Fan - February 2019

Post by Rob » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:14 am

The next song is on the AM, albeit as a bubbler:

40. Rush - Yyz
Year: 1981
Album: Moving Pictures
Biggest Fan: FrankLotion (#188)

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