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Hall of Acclaim 2018!

Post by Live in Phoenix » Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:47 am

So how this game works: nominate at least five and no more than ten acts that you feel are deserving of being in the AMF Hall. Additionally, you can nominate up to three “backstage wing” individuals who you feel deserve to be in the Hall. “Backstage wing” types include songwriters, producers, record company founders/owners, music video directors, and critics/scholars. This is entirely optional, however, and your list will not be deemed ineligible if you don’t nominate anyone in this category. 2018 releases can be included in your evaluations.

The point system I will be using is as basic as possible: #1 = 10 pts., #2 = 9 pts., and so on. If you are so inclined, you can push your most likely inductee to the #1 spot.

For the backstage lists, if you only include one person, that person will get 3 points, a 2-person list has the second person get 2 points, and so on. I will keep this poll up through the end of Friday, January 11, UTC timezone. The top four vote getters for each round will be the inductees of 2018. In the case of a tie, a vote will be used to determine the winner.

With that all said and taken care of, let the voting begin!

The list of inductees so far:

Performers:

ABBA
AC/DC
Aerosmith
Animal Collective
Aphex Twin
Arcade Fire
Arctic Monkeys
Louis Armstrong
The Band
Alain Bashung
The Beach Boys
Beastie Boys
The Beatles
Beck
Belle and Sebastian
Chuck Berry
Beyoncé
Big Star
Björk
Black Sabbath
Blondie
Blur
David Bowie
Georges Brassens
Jacques Brel
James Brown
Jeff Buckley
Kate Bush
Buzzcocks
The Byrds
Can
Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band
Johnny Cash
Nick Cave
Ray Charles
The Chemical Brothers
Chic
The Clash
Patsy Cline
Cocteau Twins
Leonard Cohen
Coldplay
Nat King Cole
Ornette Coleman
John Coltrane
Sam Cooke
Elvis Costello
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
The Cure
Daft Punk
Miles Davis
De La Soul
Deep Purple
Depeche Mode
Bo Diddley
DJ Shadow
Dr. Dre
Fats Domino
The Doors
Nick Drake
Bob Dylan
The Eagles
Duke Ellington
Eminem
Brian Eno
Eurythmics
The Everly Brothers
Ella Fitzgerald
The Flaming Lips
Fleetwood Mac
Foo Fighters
Aretha Franklin
Franz Ferdinand
Peter Gabriel
Serge Gainsbourg
Marvin Gaye
Genesis
The Grateful Dead - 2018
Al Green
Green Day
Guns N’ Roses
Woody Guthrie
Merle Haggard
PJ Harvey
Jimi Hendrix
Billie Holiday
Buddy Holly
Howlin’ Wolf
Hüsker Dü
Janet Jackson
Michael Jackson
The Jam
Jay-Z
Jefferson Airplane
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Elton John
Robert Johnson
George Jones
Janis Joplin/Big Brother and the Holding Company
Joy Division
B. B. King
Carole King
King Crimson
The Kinks
The Knife
Kraftwerk
Fela Kuti
Kendrick Lamar
LCD Soundsystem
Leadbelly
Led Zeppelin
John Lennon
Jerry Lee Lewis
Little Richard
Love
Low
Lynyrd Skynyrd
M.I.A.
Madonna
Bob Marley and the Wailers
Massive Attack
Curtis Mayfield
Metallica
Charles Mingus
Missy Elliott - 2018
Joni Mitchell
Thelonious Monk
Bill Monroe
Ennio Morricone
Van Morrison
My Bloody Valentine
Nas
The National
Willie Nelson
Neutral Milk Hotel
New Order
Randy Newman
Joanna Newsom
Nine Inch Nails
Nirvana
The Notorious B.I.G.
N.W.A.
Oasis
Roy Orbison
OutKast
Parliament/Funkadelic
Charlie Parker
Gram Parsons
Pavement
Pearl Jam
Pet Shop Boys
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - 2018
Edith Piaf
Pink Floyd
Pixies
The Pogues
The Police
Iggy Pop
Portishead
Elvis Presley
Pretenders
Primal Scream
Prince
Public Enemy
Pulp
Queen
Queens of the Stone Age
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Ramones
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Otis Redding
Lou Reed
Django Reinhardt
R.E.M.
The Replacements
Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
The Rolling Stones
Roxy Music
Run-D.M.C.
Santana
Sex Pistols
Sigur Ros
Paul Simon
Simon and Garfunkel
Nina Simone
Frank Sinatra
Siousxie and the Banshees
Sleater-Kinney
Sly and the Family Stone
The Smashing Pumpkins
Bessie Smith
Elliott Smith
Patti Smith
The Smiths
Soda Stereo
Sonic Youth
The Specials
Dusty Springfield
Bruce Springsteen
Steely Dan
Sufjan Stevens
The Stone Roses
The Stooges
The Strokes
Suede
The Supremes
T. Rex
Talk Talk
Talking Heads
Television
The Temptations
A Tribe Called Quest
TV on the Radio
U2
Van Halen
The Velvet Underground
Tom Waits
Scott Walker
Muddy Waters
Weezer - 2018
Kanye West
The White Stripes
The Who
Wilco
Hank Williams
Wire
Stevie Wonder
Wu-Tang Clan
X
XTC
Yes
Neil Young
Frank Zappa/The Mothers of Invention
Warren Zevon

Backstage Wing:

Steve Albini
Burt Bacharach and Hal David
Lester Bangs
Irving Berlin
Rodney Bingenheimer - 2018
Chris Blackwell
Booker T. & the MG’s
Leonard Chess
Robert Christgau
Miles and Ian Copeland
Ry Cooder
Willie Dixon
DJ Kool Herc
Brian Eno
Brian Epstein
Michael and Stephen Thomas Erlewine
Ahmet Ertegun
David Fincher
Henrik Franzon
Alan Freed
Dave Fridmann
Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff
George Gershwin
Nick Gold
Michel Gondry
Berry Gordy
Norman Granz
John Hammond
Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier and Eddie Holland
Nicky Hopkins
Jimmy Iovine
Quincy Jones
Spike Jonze
Casey Kasem
Hilly Kristal
Larry Levan
Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller
Alan Lomax
Greil Marcus
George Martin
Malcolm McLaren
Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section
Les Paul
Bruce Pavitt
John Peel
D.A. Pennebaker
Lee “Scratch” Perry
Sam Phillips
Cole Porter
Rick Rubin
Ryan Schreiber
Martin Scorsese
Harry Smith
Phil Spector
Timbaland
Rudy Van Gelder
Ivo Watts-Russell
Jann Wenner
Jerry Wexler
Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong
Pharrell Williams
The Wrecking Crew
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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:01 am

Who is there even left to vote for? Isn't everyone in except Crosby, Stills, and Nash?

Here are some potential names (not strictly recommendations).

2pac – Johnny Ace – Adele – Air – Alice in Chains – The Allman Brothers Band – Tori Amos – Laurie Anderson – The Animals – ANOHNI/Antony and the Johnsons – The B-52's – Bad Brains – Lavern Baker – Hank Ballard – Jeff Beck - Bee Gees – Bobby Bland – Blue Öyster Cult – Bon Iver – Boogie Down Productions – Garth Brooks – Roy Brown – Ruth Brown – Jackson Browne – Tim Buckley – Buffalo Springfield – Built to Spill – Solomon Burke – Johnny Burnette – The Paul Butterfield Blues Band – Mariah Carey – The Cars – The Carter Family – Enrico Caruso – Cheap Trick – The Clovers – The Coasters – Eddie Cochran – Joe Cocker – Alice Cooper – Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young) – Bing Crosby – Dick Dale – Dead Kennedys - Def Leppard – Delaney and Bonnie – The Dells – Lana Del Rey – Derek and the Dominos – Devo – Neil Diamond – Dion – Dire Straits – Donovan – Drake – The Drifters – Dr. John – Earth, Wind and Fire – Duane Eddy – Enya – Eric B. and Rakim – Fairport Convention – The Fall – The Flamingos – The Four Seasons – The Four Tops – Franco – Fugazi - Benny Goodman – Gorillaz – Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five – Grimes – Buddy Guy – Bill Haley and His Comets – Hall & Oates – Herbie Hancock – Emmylou Harris – Isaac Hayes – Heart – The Hollies – Julia Holter – John Lee Hooker – Whitney Houston – Ice Cube – Ice-T – Billy Idol – Julio Iglesias – Iron Maiden – The Isley Brothers – Jackson 5 – Etta James – Joan Jett & the Blackhearts – Billy Joel – Al Jolson - Louis Jordan – Albert King – Kiss – Gladys Knight and the Pips – Brenda Lee – Little Anthony & the Imperials – Little Willie John – LL Cool J – Darlene Love – The Lovin’ Spoonful – Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers – The Mamas and the Papas – Manic Street Preachers – Martha and the Vandellas – Paul McCartney/Wings – Clyde McPhatter – John Mellencamp – Janelle Monáe – The Moody Blues – The Moonglows – Morrissey – Motörhead – Billy Murray - Muse – Ricky Nelson – New York Dolls – Laura Nyro – Frank Ocean – The O’Jays – Carl Perkins – Wilson Pickett – Gene Pitney – The Platters – Lloyd Price – The Prodigy – Bonnie Raitt – The Raspberries – Jimmy Reed – The Righteous Brothers – Jimmie Rodgers – Sonny Rollins – The Ronettes – Linda Ronstadt – Todd Rundgren – Rush – Sam and Dave – Bob Seger – Del Shannon – The Shirelles – Slayer – Percy Sledge – Soundgarden – The Spinners - Spoon – The Staple Singers – Stereolab – Cat Stevens – Rod Stewart – Barbra Streisand – St. Vincent – Donna Summer – Swans – Taylor Swift – Taj Mahal – Tame Impala – James Taylor - Richard Thompson (w/ or w/o Linda) - TLC – Traffic – Big Joe Turner – Tina Turner (w/ or w/o Ike) – Ritchie Valens – Vampire Weekend – Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble – Gene Vincent – Junior Walker & the All-Stars – John Williams – Lucinda Williams – Jackie Wilson – Bill Withers – Bobby Womack – Link Wray – The xx – The Yardbirds – Yeah Yeah Yeahs – The Young Rascals – The Zombies – ZZ Top
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Post by StevieFan13 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:27 am

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Grimes
2Pac
Billy Joel
Tina Turner
Fiona Apple
Weezer
Missy Elliott
St. Vincent
Laura Nyro

Backstage: Rodney Bingenheimer
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Post by luvulongTIM » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:25 am

Backstage Wing: (bday boy) RODNEY BINGENHEIMER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shoot, where do I even start? Well for starters every band I’m nominating was played first in the US on his show on KROQ. He started off a stand in for Davy Jones on the Monkees tv show. He had his own successful glam themed nightclub called the English Disco which was frequented by friends Elvis, David Bowie, Iggy Pop, Blondie, the Sweet, Elton John and Alice Cooper just off the top of my head. He was an influential writer/columnist who got his own legendary 41 year show on LA’s KROQ where he broke more bands careers than you can ever imagine. Need a list? Again off the top of my head cause I’m running low on battery: Bowie, Ramones, Sex Pistols, Clash, The Runaways, Blondie, Go-Gos, The Bangles, the Pandoras,X, The Smiths, Sonic Youth, Jesus and Mary Chain, Elvis Costello, Patti Smith, Television, Roxy Music, Nirvana, Dramarama, New York Dolls, the Cure, Talking Heads, Stone Roses, Oasis, Suede, Blur, Pulp, Ash, Supergrass, Elastica,The Strokes, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Interpol, Doves, Coldplay, Green Day, Suzi Quattro, Siouxsie and the Banshees, No Doubt, Garbage, the Killers, The Regrettes etc.Was brought up under the toot-ledge of Sonny Bono along with Cher. Featured in videos from bands like the Mammas and the Papas. So much more but I’m at 2% so this is what I can think of just skimming the surface but he’s mentioned in plenty of books, documentaries, has complication cds, about or from the mod scene, the punk rock scene, the new wave scene, grunge, britpop, garage revival... everything you can imagine.


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The Sundays
Spiritualized
Teenage Fanclub
Guided by Voices
The Wonder Stuff
Manic Street Preachers
Shonen Knife
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Backstage - Michael Nesmith

1) Bon Iver
2) Weezer
3) Todd Rundgren
4) The Microphones / Mount Eerie
5) Burial
6) Fugazi
7) Guided By Voices
8) Grimes
9) Interpol
10) Gang of Four

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:22 pm

Btw, it's not necessary, but it could prove helpful for a Backstager's chances to briefly state their importance in their field. (Actually, I noticed that luvulongTIM has been trying a long time to get Bingenheimer inducted, and not for lack of rationalizing him, either. In my own words, he was a DJ and scenester awarded his own star on the Hollywood Blvd. Walk of Fame, with a kingmaker status due to his talent of breaking new wave, punk, and alternative acts on the radio before anyone else.)

Backstage
1. Dick Clark (hosted TV show American Bandstand, credited with introducing both rock and roll to many Americans, as well as 30+ years' worth of new artists)
2. Bob Geldof (organized Live Aid and Live 8 concerts)
3. Peter Guralnick (music biographer, including an acclaimed two-volume Elvis biography in the '90s)

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Post by Pierre » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:27 pm

1. The Grateful Dead

Out of the big acts that originated in the 1960s, they're probably one of the very last who made a lasting cultural impact worldwide who are not yet inducted.

2. Léo Ferré

The French moment. In France we usually say that Brassens, Brel and Ferré were the three giants of French chanson in the golden age, and he's therefore the last piece of the puzzle missing.

3. Laura Nyro

Criminally underrated. Why isn't she considered a giant?

4. Sade

As years pass I love her more and more.

5. Grimes

Got some reservations about that Nine Inch Nails tribute album she seems to be cooking, if "We Appreciate Power" is any indication, but, hey, why not?

6. Missy Elliott

Seriously, I thought she should have been a shoe-in long ago.

7. Tina Turner

Another long overdue icon.

8. Andrés Calamaro

Overproductive genius of Spanish-language rock. The footprint he has left among our Spanish-speaking fellows is huge, with his excessively sprawling solo output, and all the bands he's been a part of.

9. Albert Ayler

Between him and Don Cherry it's a tie for which free jazz icon should follow in Ornette Coleman and John Coltrane's footsteps by being inducted.

10. Underworld

Underworld, Orbital and Air are one holy trinity of electronic music acts who should be inducted, so that at least all the big classics would be in. But I know it's still hopeless for now, hence the #10 spot.


Backstage wing:

1. Rodney Bingenheimer

I honestly only ever heard about him here for years through luvulongTIM's fanboying, as he's totally unknown here in France. I recently saw his name mentioned in a book about punk I read, so I guess that's the poor excuse to give him the edge this time, so he finally makes it in.

2. Bob Geldof

For all his contributions in various fields about music.

3. Vivienne Westwood

Got her on my mind as a side-effect of that book about punk that got me voting for Bingenheimer too.

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Post by Jirin » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:31 pm

1) Tim Buckley
2) Magnetic Fields
3) Pere Ubu
4) Erykah Badu
5) Mahmoud Ahmed

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Post by Pierre » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:37 pm

Jirin wrote:1) Tim Buckley
Ups, Tim slipped my mind when I made my top 10. What you get for not looking back at your last ballots and try to piece them back up by memory. Anyway, I like how my ballot turned out for this year, so next year then.

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Post by FrankLotion » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:38 am

1. Frank Ocean
2. The Ronettes
3. Missy Elliott
4. Spoon
5. Slayer

Backstage:

1. Rodney Bingenheimer; glad you all mentioned this guy, he has a pretty impressive resume!
2. Kurt Ballou; probably the greatest producer of heavy rock and metal albums in the last 20 years, responsible for dozens of modern classics.
3. The Neptunes; I know Pharrell is already on the list but I think the Neptunes with Chad Hugo deserve even more recognition for their contribution to pop music.

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Post by Henry » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:24 am

1. Todd Rundgren (top artist for Henry)
2. Style Council (7)
3. Allman Brothers (16)
4. Joe Jackson (20)
5. Billy Joel (28)
6. Chicago (29)
7. Joe Satriani (35)
8. Jackson Browne (37)
9. Doobie Brothers (38)
10. James Taylor (40)

11. Moody Blues (43)
12. Emerson, Lake and Palmer (46)
13. Jethro Tull (59)
14. Grateful Dead (65)

Backstage:

1. Todd Rundgren
2. Brian Wilson
3. Jimmy Miller

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Post by Akhenaten » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:19 pm

1. Spiritualized
2. The KLF
3. Professor Longhair
4. Moby
5. Sisters Of Mercy
6. Polyphonic Spree
7. Manic Street Preachers
8. Mercury Rev
9. Regina Spektor
10. Ruth Brown
(near-misses: The Prodigy, LaVern Baker, St Vincent, Madness, Paul McCartney, The The, George Michael, The Killers, Morrissey, Wilson Pickett, Erasure, The Damned, Carter USM)

Backstage
1. Mark Radcliffe
2. Bob Geldof
3. Tony Wilson
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Post by BleuPanda » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:31 pm

1. Missy Elliott
2. Todd Rundgren
3. The Allman Brothers Band
4. Tim Buckley
5. Spiritualized
6. Erykah Badu
7. St. Vincent
8. The xx
9. Grimes
10. Burial

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Post by andyd1010 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:47 pm

1. Thrice
2. Muse
3. Weezer
4. blink-182
5. Vampire Weekend
6. Fiona Apple
7. Lana Del Rey
8. Father John Misty
9. Florence + the Machine
10. Laura Marling

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1. Rick Hall

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Post by Dexter » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:24 am

1. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
2. Soundgarden
3. Alice in Chains
4. Jimmy Cliff
5. Françoise Hardy
6. Antônio Carlos Jobim
7. The B-52's
8. The Allman Brothers Band
9. Sarah Vaughan
10. Donna Summer

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Post by acroamor » Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:56 am

1. Weezer
2. Fiona Apple
3. Blink-182
4. Sharon Van Etten
5. Vampire Weekend

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Post by The_Claw » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:40 pm

1. The Grateful Dead
2. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
3. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
4. Missy Elliott
5. The Bee Gees
6. The Prodigy
7. Frank Ocean
8. The Drifters
9. Ike & Tina Turner
10. St. Vincent

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1. Tom Dowd - Atlantic Records' chief engineer, changed the way that music was recorded with many inventions and innovations, most importantly by popularizing multitrack recording. As engineer and producer, he recorded both for Atlantic, Stax and Muscle Shoals and worked with jazz, R&B, soul and rock legends like John Coltrane ("My Favorite Things"), Ornette Coleman, Charles Mingus, Aretha Franklin ("Respect"), Otis Redding, Bobby Darin ("Mack the Knife"), Ray Charles ("What'd I Say"), Cream ("Disraeli Gears"), Eric Clapton ("Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs"), The Drifters, The Coasters, The Allman Brothers Band ("At Filmore East"), Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc. Might be our biggest omission.
2. Giorgio Moroder
3. Otis Blackwell

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Post by CupOfDreams » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:20 am

1) Swans
2) Guided By Voices
3) Spiritualized
4) Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
5) Ride
6) The Damned
7) Slowdive
8) Toots and the Maytals
9) The Allman Brothers
10) Dead Kennedys

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Post by Nassim » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:30 am

1. Built to Spill
2. Modest Mouse
3. Fugazi
4. Hot Chip
5. Slint
6. Gorillaz
7. Four Tet
8. Run the Jewels
9. Burial
10. Spoon

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Post by Zombeels » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:23 am

1. Built To Spill
2.Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
3. Small Faces/ Faces
4. Emerson, Lake & Palmer
5. Magnetic Fields
6. Moody Blues
7. Jethro Tull
8. Cat Stevens
9. Buffalo Springfield
10. Animals/ Eric Burdon & The Animals

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Post by StevieFan13 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:44 am

Next time around, we totally have to add Courtney Barnett.
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Post by Live in Phoenix » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:08 pm

1. Billy Idol
2. Grateful Dead
3. Oingo Boingo
4. The Moody Blues
5. John Williams
6. Justin Hayward
7. Sting
8. Suzanne Vega
9. James Taylor
10. Soundgarden

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Post by Moonbeam » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:17 pm

Going to add some support for artists that aren't quite among my top 10 that have yet to be inducted but I nonetheless love.

1. Kylie Minogue: maybe the best pop star of the past 25 years. A huge string of great albums and singles.

2. Annie: Probably my favorite artist ever if judging solely by the average quality of each song. Her songs pack such a wallop. Nobody manages the balance between happy and sad like Annie.

3. Janelle Monáe: She's undeniable after Dirty Computer, her third straight excellent album, and IMO, her very best. Plus, the Metropolis: Chase Suite EP is top-notch.

4. Mylène Farmer: Responsible for some of the very best pop music over the past 35 years, and her new album is a stunning return to form.

5. Grace Jones: The most badass woman artist of all, IMO. Anyone who can hula hoop for 10+ minutes while performing "Slave to the Rhythm" over the age of 60 has done things right.

6. Bat for Lashes: She of the beautifully crafted artistic portraits that vary with each album. The Bride is her best yet.

7. The Human League: From their early, experimental dabbling with electronic textures through to their synth pop megastardom, they've earned a place, IMO.

8. Missy Elliott: Arguably the most fun hip hop artist there is, and probably my favorite. Miss E... So Addictive is just that - incredibly addictive from start to finish, and all of her albums are worth a listen or five.

9. Gorillaz: They create such fun and vivid worlds with their albums. Demon Days captured the zeitgeist of the 00s better than any other album, IMO.

10. Donna Summer: So many incredible songs and albums, it's kind of surprising she isn't in yet.

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Post by Rocky Raccoon » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:11 am

Semi-weighted these with a preference to older acts that were around before the turn of the century, just because that's how I think a HOF should work.

1) Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
2) Eric Clapton
3) Rod Stewart
4) John Mellencamp
5) Vampire Weekend
6) Missy Elliott
7) Soundgarden
8) Etta James
9) Crosby, Stills, Nash (& Young)
10) Jackie Wilson

Backstage

1) Dave Marsh for his many written words concerning the world of music and his part in organizing the real RnR HOF
2) Thomas Edison for inventing the phonograph (If he gets in, next year I'll nominate Emile Berliner)
3) That guy luvulongTIM was ranting about, just because I enjoyed the impassioned argument

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Post by DaveC » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:27 am

1. Roy Harper
2. Gentle Giant
3. Camel
4. Manic Street Preachers
5. The Moody Blues
6. Muse
7. Interpol
8. Bessie Smith
9. The Decemberists
10. Yeah Yeah Yeahs

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DaveC wrote: 8. Bessie Smith
She was inducted last year.

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1. Dead Can Dance
2. Robyn
3. George Michael
4. Isaac Hayes
5. Röyksopp
6. Sade
7. The xx
8. Fat Freddys Drop
9. Judas Priest
10. Slowdive
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Post by Rob » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:43 pm

I was going to write a lot again for my choices, but never got around it. So only a list:

1. Dolly Parton
2. Koji Kondo
3. Jimmie Rodgers
4. Bernard Herrmann
5. Jimmy Cliff
6. Sister Rosetta Tharpe
7. Carl Perkins
8. The Grateful Dead
9. 2Pac
10. Missy Elliot

Like last year and also like DaveC I give an edge to older acts, which seem to me the whole point of a Hall of Fame. I also prefer to approach this more from a historic and importance point of view, than a personal vote (I don't like 2Pac much, for example). So no Courtney Barnett or someone as recent in my list for quite a few years, no matter how much I like them.

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January 11, UTC is over!
Hall of Acclaim 2018 is finalized. The winners will initially be posted in alphabetical order. The backstage inductee will appear in the statistics rundown.

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Top Ten point total:

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers -- 54
Missy Elliott -- 42
The Grateful Dead -- 32
Weezer -- 31


Spiritualized – 30
Todd Rundgren -- 27
The Allman Brothers Band -- 21
Built to Spill -- 20
Grimes -- 20
Fiona Apple -- 19

This is actually pretty remarkable for Tom Petty, in that he passed away October 2, 2017, and wasn't a top 10 finalist in the Oct. 17 Hall results that year, or the Nov. 1 results.

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Rodney Bingenheimer!!!!!!!!!!!! -- 13
Bob Geldof -- 6

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Post by Pierre » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:12 am

Two acts in for me this year, so not bad at all. And I think the whole class is very deserving, these are all people who left an undeniable footprint in popular culture. I generally feel like several people have stated that older acts should be given a priority, although here on AM this criterion was specifically left away as a reaction to that other Hall of Fame, so I don't know.

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Yes, a good selection. I also got two in. Nice!

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Pierre wrote:Thanks Live in Phoenix for organizing this!
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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:13 pm

Rocky Raccoon wrote: 2) Thomas Edison for inventing the phonograph (If he gets in, next year I'll nominate Emile Berliner)
Emile Berliner: "best known for inventing the flat disc record (called a 'gramophone record' in British and American English) and the Gramophone." This innovation succeeded Edison's wax cylinders.

Along these lines, another important name would be Guglielmo Marconi: "credited as the inventor of radio ... succeeded in making an engineering and commercial success of radio [by innovating and building on the work of others]."

Records (which you can still buy retail) and radio are 2 vehicles of music that we still essentially enjoy today.

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Live in Phoenix wrote:
Rocky Raccoon wrote: 2) Thomas Edison for inventing the phonograph (If he gets in, next year I'll nominate Emile Berliner)
Emile Berliner: "best known for inventing the flat disc record (called a 'gramophone record' in British and American English) and the Gramophone." This innovation succeeded Edison's wax cylinders.

Along these lines, another important name would be Guglielmo Marconi: "credited as the inventor of radio ... succeeded in making an engineering and commercial success of radio [by innovating and building on the work of others]."

Records (which you can still buy retail) and radio are 2 vehicles of music that we still essentially enjoy today.
Good point

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:57 am

Marconi may be zooming too far out. Edison and Berliner were specifically endeavoring in the music field -- Marconi, not necessarily.

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:43 am

As this is sort of a year-end list in its own way, I'm planning on starting the next Hall of Acclaim the day after Christmas, and running it through the end of Saturday, Jan. 18th. Right now, there are a few things I wanted to bring up, all regarding the Backstage Act nominations.

I felt like the Backstage Act nominations needed some major organizing, and you can look at them below if you'd like, as they currently are.

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Item #1

I've now made or edited a capsule description for every nomination, along with the name of a forum member who nominated the act. I’ve added some more nominees myself.

When possible, I’ve drawn on forum member posts, or Wikipedia. This is a master list and the descriptions are intentionally just a line or two; regardless, if you feel like I've missed the mark on my description, let me know.

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Item #2

I noticed that there was no Backstage winner at all for a couple of years, due to too much vote-splitting. The wait between one poll and the next was very short, at one time; now that we're all caught up since the Class of 1960, and each new Class is playing out in real time, there's no way on Earth I'm going to allow for a vacancy and let 2 years go by without a winner.

It might mean that I cast the last vote, upon closing the poll. That's one option. Or, we have a smoky backroom tie-breaker.

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Item #3
"Backstage wing” types include songwriters, producers, record company founders/owners, music video directors, and critics/scholars.
Should we allow:
1) Gun-for-hire sidemen (for instance, Adrian Belew)
2) Backing band members from largely stable lineups (for instance, Clarence Clemons from The E Street Band)
3) Backing bands with countless members over the years (for instance, the J.B.'s)

Examples from 1), 2), and 3) are currently listed below among the nominations. In my mind, 1) should be allowed; for 2), well-known backing bands should already be considered inducted in the main Performers section, added next to the main performer (making mattceinicram's Clarence Clemons nomination redundant); and as for 3) I don't know. Do they fall through the cracks? If they weren't billed on album covers like the E Street Band, should the J.B.'s be considered inducted next to James Brown's name anyway?

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William Ackerman and Anne Robinson (Founders of Windham Hill Records, a new age record label from 1976 to 2007) (Live in Phoenix)

Moses Asch (Ran the Asch [later Folkways] label from 1948 until his death in 1986; some of America's greatest folk songs were originally recorded for Asch) (EmilienDelRey)

Kurt Ballou ("Probably the greatest producer of heavy rock and metal albums in the last 20 years, responsible for dozens of modern classics") (FrankLotion)

Pierre Barouh (Introduced Bossa Nova in France before founding the "Saravah" label, on which some seminal French acts recorded) (Pierre)

Adrian Belew (King Crimson frontman has also played and/or toured with Frank Zappa, David Bowie, Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, Nine Inch Nails, Paul Simon, Tom Tom Club) (notbrianeno)

Emile Berliner (Inventor best known for inventing the flat disc record and the Gramophone) (Rocky Raccoon)

Otis Blackwell (His compositions include "Fever," "Great Balls of Fire," "Breathless," "Don't Be Cruel," "All Shook Up," "Return to Sender" [with Winfield Scott]; and "Handy Man") (The_Claw)

T-Bone Burnett (Record producer; credits include everyone from B.B. King to the Wallflowers, with over a dozen Grammys [e.g., Raising Sand; O Brother, Where Art Thou?], and one Oscar ["The Weary Kind" from Crazy Heart]) (DocBrown)

John Cale (Record producer and arranger on a number of albums, including the Stooges' debut and a trilogy by Nico; produced Patti Smith's Horses) (luney6)

Julián Carrillo (Composer, conductor, violinist and Mexican scientist, considered by many experts as one of the most important composers in the country and an important microtonal music pioneer) (Blanco)

Dick Clark (From 1956 to 1989, hosted American Bandstand, a popular music-performance and dance show also credited with introducing rock and roll to many Americans) (luvulongTIM)

Michel Colombier, Alain Goraguer, and Jean-Claude Vannier (Three of the Gainsbourg arrangers. And three great composers too.) (Romain)

Anton Corbijn (Director and photographer with his very own style: Nirvana’s “Heart Shaped Box,” Joy Division’s “Atmosphere,” and personal favourite Depeche Mode "Never Let Me Down Again") (Honorio)

Don Cornelius (American television show host and producer who was best known as the creator of the nationally syndicated dance and music show Soul Train [hosted 1971 to 1993]) (luvulongTIM)

Dee Nasty (French DJ who practically created the French hip-hop subculture) (Pierre)

DJ Premier (Has worked with Big Daddy Kane, Christina Aguilera, Common, D'Angelo, Dr. Dre, Game, Janet Jackson, Jay-Z, Kanye West, KRS-One, Ludacris, Mac Miller, Mobb Deep, Mos Def, Nas, The Notorious B.I.G., Rakim, Snoop Dogg) (EmilienDelRey)

Coxsone Dodd (Studio One owner/producer) (Mindrocker)

Tom Dowd (Atlantic Records' chief engineer and a producer; popularized multitrack recording; recorded both for Atlantic, Stax and Muscle Shoals and worked with jazz, R&B, soul and rock legends) (The_Claw)

Dr. Demento (American radio broadcaster specializing in novelty songs, comedy, and strange or unusual recordings; brought ‘Weird Al’ Yankovic to national attention) (luvulongTIM)

Dr. Dre (Produced for -- and in some cases, overseen the careers of -- 2Pac, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, 50 Cent, The Game, Kendrick Lamar, Anderson .Paak) (Live in Phoenix)

The Dust Brothers (Paul's Boutique, Odelay and MmmBop, 'nuff said!) (nassim)

Thomas Edison (His 1877 phonograph is the recording industry's Big Bang [originally too lo-fi for serious music recording, and improved on for years without him]. Co-founded Edison Records in 1888.) (Live in Phoenix)

Daniel Ek (Founder of Spotify. Changed the music listening experience and made streaming albums easier and more accessible.) (Mattceinicram)

El-P (Co-founder of the Definitive Juxrecord label; a major driving force in alternative hip hop, producing for Aesop Rock, Mr. Lif, and Cage, among others) (nassim)

Bob Ezrin (Produced some of the most entertaining hard rock albums in history [credits include Alice Cooper's '70s run, Lou Reed's Berlin, Kiss's Destroyer; co-producer of Pink Floyd's The Wall]) (Pierre)

Anthony Fantano ("Probably the most popular music critic of all time, and second only to Ebert & Roeper among critics of all mediums") (prosecutorgodot)

Flood (Post-punk and alternative rock record producer and audio engineer: New Order, U2, Nine Inch Nails, Nick Cave, PJ Harvey, Sigur Rós, The Smashing Pumpkins, Brian Eno) (notbrianeno)

Kim Fowley (Runaways manager; kinda like the John Waters of 70s glam/hard rock with his wild perversion and raunchy imagery) (luvulongTIM)

Bob Geldof (Singer of the Boomtown Rats, co-founder of Band Aid, actor in The Wall, he has earned his place in pop music history) (Pierre)

Charlie Gillett (Radio presenter, musicologist and writer [e.g. The Sound of the City book]; promoted world music; discovered and promoted such acts as Dire Straits and Ian Dury) (DaveC)

Nigel Godrich (Producer of Radiohead's studio albums since OK Computer. Has worked with Beck, Paul McCartney, U2, R.E.M., Pavement and Roger Waters.) (Gillingham)

Gerry Goffin & Carole King (At the beginning of the ‘60s, they were a real teenage couple writing splendid teenage symphonies from the Brill Building that fulfilled the teenager dreams) (Honorio)

Peter Guralnick (Music biographer, including an acclaimed two-volume Elvis biography in the '90s) (Live in Phoenix)

Rick Hall ("I'd recommend the documentary Muscle Shoals for his story. It's amazing how much great music came out of there, and he had a lot to do with it.") (andyd1010)

W.C. Handy ("Possibly the most important backstage guy in popular music. The blues became part of the musical landscape thanks to his compositions [like 'St. Louis Blues'], which also helped developed jazz.") (Rob)

Martin Hannett (Producer, particularly of Joy Division's two LPs, significantly shaping the sound of those records) (Live in Phoenix)

Hipgnosis (English art design group [primarily Storm Thorgerson and Aubrey Powell, and later Peter Christopherson]. Album cover clients included Led Zeppelin, Genesis, Wings, T. Rex, and especially Pink Floyd.) (Live in Phoenix)

Jessica Hopper (American writer; author of The First Collection of Criticism by a Living Female Rock Critic, a compilation of her essays, reported pieces, zines, and reviews) (StevieFan13)

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis (Went from playing in The Time to being major R&B songwriters and producers: Janet Jackson [nine #1 hits], TLC, Michael Jackson, Boyz II Men, Usher, Mary J. Blige, Mariah Carey. Wrote 41 U.S. top ten hits.) (Live in Phoenix)

Eddie Kramer (Recording producer and engineer: Jimi Hendrix [all four original albums], the Beatles, David Bowie, Eric Clapton, The Kinks, Kiss, Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones and Carlos Santana) (Live in Phoenix)

Robert John "Mutt" Lange (Produced some of the most entertaining hard rock albums in history [AC/DC's Highway to Hell, Back in Black; Def Leppard's Pyromania, Hysteria]) (Pierre)

Bill Laswell (Everywhere-at-once figure as a producer, player, composer and multiple-label entrepreneur [Ramones, Swans, Herbie Hancock, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Motörhead, the Last Poets, Whitney Houston, Fela Kuti, etc.]) (Live in Phoenix)

Teo Macero (Jazz saxophonist, composer, record producer; producer at Columbia Records for twenty years; credits include Bitches Brew, and Dave Brubeck's Time Out) (sonofsamiam)

Robert Mapplethorpe (Creator of a disturbing but fascinating universe with his provocative black and white pictures, not hiding pornographic subjects. Favourite cover art: Patti Smith's Horses.) (Honorio)

Marley Marl (DJ, producer [LL Cool J's Mama Said Knock You Out], rapper, record label founder; influenced hip hop icons such as RZA, DJ Premier, and Pete Rock) (StevieFan13)

Dave Marsh (For his many written words concerning the world of music and his part in organizing the real RnR HOF) (Rocky Raccoon)

Jimmy Miller (Producer, notably the Rolling Stones' most famous run [even the main drummer on "You Can't Always Get What You Want," "Tumbling Dice"]; Steve Winwood's '60s run; also Screamadelica) (Henry)

Robert Moog (Inventor of the synthesizer, which is easily as influential on popular music as the electric guitar) (Kingoftonga)

Giorgio Moroder (Dubbed the "Father of Disco", pioneering Italo disco and electronic dance music; his work with synthesizers heavily influenced several music genres) (The_Claw)

Shadow Morton ("For his contributions to my favorite girl group of all time, The Shangri-Las." Wrote and produced "Remember [Walking in the Sand]", "Leader of the Pack", and other hits) (HRS)

James Murphy (Has worked on the side with Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Arcade Fire, Gorillaz, Pulp) (notbrianeno)

The Neptunes (I know Pharrell is already on the list but I think the Neptunes with Chad Hugo deserve even more recognition for their contribution to pop music) (FrankLotion)

Michael Nesmith (Monkee, songwriter [including "Different Drum"], actor, producer, novelist; won the first Grammy for Video of the Year for Elephant Parts; wrote/directed one-hour Monkees '90s comedy special) (jap123)

Jack Nitzsche (Just seemed to pop up in the '60s through '80s -- collaborations with Phil Spector, the Rolling Stones, Neil Young; co-wrote "Needles and Pins"; film work included co-writing "Up Where We Belong" [Oscar winner]) (Live in Phoenix)

Alan Parsons (Assistant recording engineer on "Let It Be" and "Abbey Road," engineer for Dark Side of the Moon, reinvented the Hollies, produced 11 albums as the Alan Parsons Project) (DocBrown)

Lori Petty (American actress and director; Pierre might need to explain this one to me... Perhaps for her roles in rock & roll dramas like Clubland, and Prey for Rock & Roll) (Pierre)

Conny Plank (Principal krautrock producer, also many new wave/postpunk acts in the 80s) (Mindrocker)

Ann Powers (Music critic, writer [NPR, Los Angeles Times, New York Times, Spin, Village Voice]; co-authored book Piece by Piece with Tori Amos) (Pierre)

Mark Radcliffe (Radio broadcaster; best known for his broadcasting work for the BBC since the 1980s [e.g., Mark and Lard, The Folk Show]) (Akhenaten)

The Raelettes (American girl group from the 1950s to 2003, formed, as the name suggests, to provide backing vocals for Ray Charles) (Pierre)

Duke Reid (Jamaican record producer, DJ and label owner; dominated the Jamaican music scene of the 1960s, specializing in ska and rocksteady) (Live in Phoenix)

David Ritz (Autobiographies co-written by Ritz include: Ray Charles, Marvin Gaye, Jerry Wexler, Etta James, B.B. King, Neville Brothers, Janet Jackson, Morris Day. Author of Respect: The Life of Aretha Franklin. Co-wrote "Sexual Healing" song.) (Live in Phoenix)

Sylvia Robinson (Founder and CEO of Sugar Hill Records, "The Mother of Hip–Hop"; credited as the driving force behind "Rapper's Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang, and Grandmaster Flash's "The Message") (EmilienDelRey)

Nile Rodgers (Produced David Bowie's Let's Dance, Madonna's Like a Virgin; later worked with The B-52s, Mick Jagger, Bryan Ferry, Lady Gaga, and Daft Punk [three Grammy Awards]) (bootsy)

Todd Rundgren (Production credits include Badfinger's Straight Up, Grand Funk Railroad's We're an American Band, New York Dolls, Meat Loaf's Bat Out of Hell, XTC's Skylarking) (Henry)

RZA (Produced many Wu-Tang solo and affiliate projects) (Gillingham)

Gustavo Santaolalla (One of the most-awarded and recognized musicians in South America. Santaolalla has produced over a hundred albums, which form a kind of map of Latin alternative music.) (Blanco)

Stéphane Saunier (Arranged the live performances on the French show Nulle Part Ailleurs [including Jeff Buckley, Nirvana, Pulp, and Elliott Smith]. The show was known as the best place to perform.) (Nassim)

Piero Scaruffi (Music critic; he has some unorthodox opinions, but a lot of the time the criticism is objective. He reviews a lot of genres that someone like Robert Christgau hasn't even touched on.) (PlasticRam)

Sly and Robbie (Drummer Sly Dunbar and bassist Robbie Shakespeare, a prolific Jamaican rhythm section and production duo, associated primarily with the reggae and dub genres) (Live in Phoenix)

Charles Stepney (Record producer, arranger, songwriter and musician; noted for his work with The Dells, Ramsey Lewis, Rotary Connection and Earth, Wind & Fire) (EmilienDelRey)

Bernie Taupin (Elton John’s long-time lyricist; also co-wrote Heart’s “These Dreams") (luvulongTIM)

Ike Turner (In the ‘50s, a producer/talent scout for innumerous R&B acts including Howlin' Wolf, Bobby Bland and Elmore James, and of course his future wife Tina) (Mindrocker)

Tony Visconti (Producer, including 11 David Bowie studio albums from the ‘60s to Low to Blackstar, and 10 T. Rex albums) (Live in Phoenix)

Andy Warhol (Sticky Fingers and Velvet Underground album covers, among many others; Lou Reed: "In a sense, he really did produce [the Velvets' debut], because he was this umbrella that absorbed all the attacks when we weren't large enough to be attacked.") (Live in Phoenix)

Richard Weize (Founder of Bear Family Records, a Germany-based label that specializes in extravagant reissues of archival material, including country music and 1950s rock and roll) (Live in Phoenix)

Kanye West (Executive producer on his own albums; producing credits include The Blueprint, Common's Be and countless other albums and songs) (PlasticRam)

Vivienne Westwood (British fashion designer, largely responsible for bringing modern punk and new wave fashions into the mainstream; made clothes for Malcolm McLaren's "SEX" boutique) (Pierre)

Joel Whitburn (For decades, he and his company have examined music charts [1890s-onward] and published reference books like The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits 1955–2009) (Live in Phoenix)

Hype Williams (Music video director: "Woo Hah!! Got You All in Check", "Gettin' Jiggy wit It", "No Scrubs", Kanye West's "Gold Digger." Has collaborated with Kanye on 20 videos, and with Busta Rhymes on 16 videos.) (bootsy)

Brian Wilson (Equally as gifted as George Martin and his hero Phil Spector) (madzong)

Tom Wilson (Producer: Bob Dylan, the Mothers of Invention, Simon & Garfunkel, the Velvet Underground [their debut's real producer], Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra, Eddie Harris, Nico, Eric Burdon and the Animals) (Live in Phoenix)

Tony Wilson (Behind some of Manchester's most successful bands. He was one of the five co-founders of Factory Records and the founder and manager of the Haçienda nightclub. Promoted the culture of Manchester throughout his career.) (Akhenaten)

Francis Wolff & Alfred Lion (Wolff: Record company executive, photographer for Blue Note record label. Lion: Record executive, co-founded Blue Note Records, which featured many of the biggest names in jazz 1940s-1960s.) (EmilienDelRey)

Tim Yohannan (Founder of the punk subculture fanzine Maximum Rocknroll [print run 1982 to 2019], and strong presence within it even after his death in 1998. "MRR" continues in its original radio show format, along with its website.) (Live in Phoenix)
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Item #2

I noticed that there was no Backstage winner at all for a couple of years, due to too much vote-splitting. The wait between one poll and the next was very short, at one time; now that we're all caught up since the Class of 1960, and each new Class is playing out in real time, there's no way on Earth I'm going to allow for a vacancy and let 2 years go by without a winner.

It might mean that I cast the last vote, upon closing the poll. That's one option. Or, we have a smoky backroom tie-breaker.
Didn't see any feedback, so, my solution is that if we have a tie, we will have a tie-breaker vote, like we have for some yearly polls. I will be the last vote, if necessary.

I'm going through this fuss because long-gone are the days when we could simply have a vacancy, and it didn't really matter because we'd go right into "next year's" voting just a week later. (The 2009 through 2013 polls were all begun within less than the space of a month!) We're all caught up and can't do "see you next week" anymore, and a 2-year vacancy between winners is too long.

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Item #3

"Backstage wing” types include songwriters, producers, record company founders/owners, music video directors, and critics/scholars.


Should we allow:
1) Gun-for-hire sidemen (for instance, Adrian Belew)
2) Backing band members from largely stable lineups (for instance, Clarence Clemons from The E Street Band)
3) Backing bands with countless members over the years (for instance, the J.B.'s)

Examples from 1), 2), and 3) are currently listed below among the nominations. In my mind, 1) should be allowed; for 2), well-known backing bands should already be considered inducted in the main Performers section, added next to the main performer (making mattceinicram's Clarence Clemons nomination redundant); and as for 3) I don't know. Do they fall through the cracks? If they weren't billed on album covers like the E Street Band, should the J.B.'s be considered inducted next to James Brown's name anyway?
No feedback, so, I've decided that 2) and 3) shouldn't even be here. No backing bands. When the poll opens, I'll have a sort of Proposition vote on inducting all prominent backing bands for inducted Performers. The backing band inductions have otherwise been very inconsistent so far.

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