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Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:54 am

Right now there are eight nominees:

The Explorer's Club - Run Run Run (Miguel)
Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers (HRS)
Lower Dens - Nootropics (Brad)
King Tuff - King Tuff (Romain)
Jenny Scheinmen - Mischief and Mayhem (Jirin)
Peaking Lights - Lucifer (Jackson)
Ondatropica - Ondatropica (Nicolas)
The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now (Stephan)

I'm leaving nomination open for another week due to the low nomination turnout. (Come on Gillingham/Henrik/Moonbeam/other people who hear a lot of ecclectic albums)

Rules are simple, just submit a ranked list of all the albums on this list you have heard. You don't need to have nominated in order to vote, and don't need to rank more than two albums for your vote to be considered.

Scoring will work as follows: For each pair of albums, each will receive points based on the percentage of lists that contain them both it ranks higher on. For instance, if album A and album B appear on six of the same lists, and album A ranks higher on four of them, album A will receive 4/6 * 100 (66.7) points and album B will receive 2/6 * 100 (33.3) points. This way, if you have not heard an album your vote will count neither for nor against it.

Deadline is December 31st, the end of the year.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jackson » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:15 am

Looking forward to listening to these! I haven't heard a note from any of them except my nomination.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Stephan » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:12 pm

The Explorer's Club's album is called Grand Hotel, not Run, Run, Run.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by sonofsamiam » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:26 pm

Not sure if Bish Bosch will end up qualifying or not...what if something is nominated and finds it's way into the Top 50? It's very hard to predict whether it will.

Either way, Ten Freedom Summers is now my top album of 2012, and Ondatropica is Top 5. Amazing albums both. Of course, Ten Freedom Summers is nearly 5 hours long -- I hope people give it a shot.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:34 am

sonofsamiam wrote:Not sure if Bish Bosch will end up qualifying or not...what if something is nominated and finds it's way into the Top 50? It's very hard to predict whether it will.

Either way, Ten Freedom Summers is now my top album of 2012, and Ondatropica is Top 5. Amazing albums both. Of course, Ten Freedom Summers is nearly 5 hours long -- I hope people give it a shot.
Judgement call. I'm not going to disqualify an album because it snuck in at 49 in otisredding's end of year list, but if it's getting hyped up and you have reason to think it probably will crack top 50 best to leave it off.

Agree Ten Freedom Summers is excellent.

@Stephan

Sorry about that, is Run Run Run a song name?

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Ddiamondd » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:24 am

been off the boards a good long while - since the switch-over, in fact - but it's great to return and see King Tuff up for the Moderately Acclaimed prize! One of my favourite records of the year, lurking just outside the top 10. 'Bad Thing' is a monster

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:59 pm

Three more nominations made in the other thread, bringing the total to 11:

The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel (Miguel)
Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers (HRS)
Lower Dens - Nootropics (Brad)
King Tuff - King Tuff (Romain)
Jenny Scheinmen - Mischief and Mayhem (Jirin)
Peaking Lights - Lucifer (Jackson)
Ondatropica - Ondatropica (Nicolas)
The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now (Stephan)
John Mark Nelson - Reminisce (Rodney On The Block)
iamwhoami - kin (Moonbeam)
Claro Intelecto - Reform Club (Ddiamondd)

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:23 pm

Has anyone listened to Mischief & Mayhem yet? I'm thinking of changing my nomination but won't do so if other people have already spent time to listen to it.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Stephan » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:22 am

I haven't listened to it yet! And yeah, Run, Run, Run is one of the songs. I didn't like Ten Freedom Summers, but it's rare for me to like Third Stream--it's too much like free jazz. Very happy to see Moonbeam nominate kin, I was very close to nominating it as well. Another small error there though, the artist's moniker is iamamiwhoami, not iamwhoami.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:14 pm

Provided nobody objects, I am changing my nomination to Pepe Deluxe - Queen Of The Wave.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:43 pm

Last call for nominations and nomination changes. Nominations will close at midnight Friday 12/7 Eastern US time.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Stephan » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:03 am

Rodneyontheblock's nomination is also a song, but you can listen to the entire Waiting and Waiting album on http://johnmarknelson.bandcamp.com.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Stephan » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:21 am

Quick preliminary list. I'll try to listen to all of them (except for the top 2 and Ten Freedom Summers, which I'm pretty set on) at least once more before the deadline. I'll let you know if the list changes.

1. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
2. iamamiwhoami - kin
3. Ondatrópica - Ondatrópica
4. Lower Dens - Nootropics
5. John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting
6. King Tuff - King Tuff
7. Pepe Deluxé - Queen of the Wave
8. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
9. Peaking Lights - Lucifer
10. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club
11. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Zorg » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:20 am

Can I nominate Sleigh Bells' Reign of Terror? I feel a bit naughty doing so, as even though they're "moderately acclaimed", the aim of this game clearly isn't to listen to a well-known pitchfork-et-al acclaimed band's second album...

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by slick » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:30 am

Zorg wrote:Can I nominate Sleigh Bells' Reign of Terror? I feel a bit naughty doing so, as even though they're "moderately acclaimed", the aim of this game clearly isn't to listen to a well-known pitchfork-et-al acclaimed band's second album...

I was going to nominate this album as well...

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:15 am

50 minutes more to make a nomination, current nomination list is:

The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel (Miguel)
Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers (HRS)
Lower Dens - Nootropics (Brad)
King Tuff - King Tuff (Romain)
Pepe Deluxe - Queen of The Wave (Jirin)
Peaking Lights - Lucifer (Jackson)
Ondatropica - Ondatropica (Nicolas)
The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now (Stephan)
John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting (Rodney On The Block)
iamwhoami - kin (Moonbeam)
Claro Intelecto - Reform Club (Ddiamondd)
Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror (Zorg)
Alt-j - An Awesome Wave (John)

I've heard a majority at this point. Some excellent nominations.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Brad » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:27 am

Is this the "final" list? I've spent a good part of the day listening to the ones I hadn't heard and must say there's some excellent stuff here! I'll probably put my vote in a bit later but wanted to make sure I heard everything nominated. The only one I'm having trouble finding is Wadada Leo Smith, but I'll hunt that down before the end of the month!

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Post by sonofsamiam » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:48 pm

I won't be around much the rest of the year, but I've given these a good listen and am ready to vote. By the way, what a fine and diverse group of albums this was! After the Top 2, which I already loved, this was a tough list to rank.

1. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers
2. Ondatropica - Ondatropica
3. Peaking Lights - Lucifer
4. iamamiwhoami - kin
5. Pepe Deluxe - Queen of The Wave
6. Alt-j - An Awesome Wave
7. John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting
8. Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror
9. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
10. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
11. Lower Dens - Nootropics
12. King Tuff - King Tuff
13. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by nicolas » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:30 pm

sonofsamiam wrote:

2. Ondatropica - Ondatropica
Yessss !! My number one !! I'm happy I'm not the only one to vote for it

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Miguel » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:19 pm

1. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
2. John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting
3. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
4. King Tuff - King Tuff
5. Ondatrópica - Ondatrópica
6. Peaking Lights - Lucifer
7. Lower Dens - Nootropics
8. Alt-j - An Awesome Wave
9. Pepe Deluxe - Queen of The Wave
10. iamwhoami - kin
11. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club
12. Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror

Sorry, Hector, but I haven't had a chance to listen Ten Freedom Summers, and the day after tomorrow I'm going on holidays. :|

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Stephan » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:35 am

Listened to most of them again, but very little changed. I find that I can much better gauge an album on first listen than some years ago.

1. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
2. iamamiwhoami - kin
3. Ondatrópica - Ondatrópica
4. ∆ - An Awesome Wave
5. Lower Dens - Nootropics
6. John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting
7. King Tuff - King Tuff
8. Pepe Deluxé - Queen of the Wave
9. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
10. Peaking Lights - Lucifer
11. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club
12. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers
13. Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Brad » Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:50 pm

Here's my list:
1 . Lower Dens - Nootropics
2 . The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
3 . Pepe Deluxe - Queen of The Wave
4 . Alt-j - An Awesome Wave - not sure this is still eligible
5 . Peaking Lights - Lucifer
6 . King Tuff - King Tuff
7 . Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror
8 . John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting
9 . iamwhoami - kin
10 . Ondatropica - Ondatropica
11 . Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers - I confess to not hearing the whole set. I listened to as much as I could find and based the ranking on my gut feeling. Feel free to omit if necessary.
12 . The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
13 . Claro Intelecto - Reform Club

Thanks!

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:13 am

@Brad

If you think you've listened to it enough to get a fair impression of it I will count it, but feel free to disqualify your ranking of it if you feel you haven't. :)

1. Pepe Deluxe - Queen of the Wave (#8)
2. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers (#10)
3. Ondatropica - Ondatropica (#15)
4. Peaking Lights - Lucifer (#43)
5. Alt-j - An Awesome Wave (#53)
6. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
7. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
8. Lower Dens - Nootropics
9. Iamwhoami - Kin
10. John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting
11. King Tuff - King Tuff (Sorry Romain, of all the great recommendations you've gave me this year not a fan of this one.)
12. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club
13. Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror

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Post by Brad » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:21 am

If it will hurt the overall score, I'd rather disqualify it.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Ddiamondd » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:38 pm

1. King Tuff - King Tuff
2. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club
3. Ondatrópica - Ondatrópica
4. Lower Dens - Nootropics
5. Alt-J - An Awesome Wave
6. iamwhoami - kin
7. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
8. Peaking Lights - Lucifer
9. Pepe Deluxe - Queen of The Wave
10. Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror
11. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
12. John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting

apologies but the Wadada Leo Smith is just too much for me to digest, don't feel comfortable ranking it, out of fear of ignorance as much as anything

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:28 pm

I think I'm going to adjust the scoring system a little bit:

If two albums co-appear on less than half of the ballots, then up to that half, 0.5 votes will be cast for the one that has more votes.

To explain: If 10 votes are cast, and album A and album B appear on all of them, and album A is ranked higher on 6 of them, then album A will receive 0.6 points and album B will receive 0.4 points.

But now, if album A and album B only appear together on 3 of them, and album A appears higher on 2 of those 3, album A will receive (2 + 0.5 x 2) / 5 = 3/5 = 0.6 points, and album B will still recieve 1/3 = 0.3333 points.

The reason for this is to prevent the 'One person rates an album #1, nobody else listens to it, that album wins' case.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:57 am

A reminder, votes should be in by the end of the year on Monday.

Slightly late ballots will be accepted. And remember, the way the scoring is set up, not listing an album won't help or hurt it at all.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Romain » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:04 am

1 to 2 : albums I listen a lot this year.
3 to 8 : albums I love but not memorable (maybe the 3th have to go to the first category)
9 to 12 : albums I don't like but listenable with some efforts
13 : I can't


1. King Tuff - King Tuff
2. Lower Dens - Nootropics
3. Pepe Deluxe - Queen of The Wave (The big discovery of the game for me, I love this album a lot.)
4. Alt-j - An Awesome Wave
5. Ondatropica - Ondatropica
6. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
7. Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror
8. Peaking Lights - Lucifer
9. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
10. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club
11. John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting
12. Iamamiwhoami - kin
13. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:00 am

7 ballots so far. I'm hoping a few more people post before the deadline because I was hoping everybody who nominated an album would vote, so I'll give a few more days for the other six.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by HRS » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:30 pm

Here, here! Too bad for Wadada - it also took a considerable time for me to fairly digest it - but the others album were generally good to great on their own and although the top 8 is formed by albums I had already listened to because of the incomparable Albums of 2012 thread and its ceaseless suggestions, I had plenty of good moments listening to all 13. It was a nice game as all the other moderately acclaimed something usually are. Happy New Year, everyone!

1. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers
2. Ondatropica - Ondatropica
3. Lower Dens - Nootropics
4. iamwhoami - kin
5. Pepe Deluxe - Queen of the Wave
6. King Tuff - King Tuff
7. Peaking Lights - Lucifer
8. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
9. Alt-j - An Awesome Wave
10. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club
11. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
12. John Mark Nelson - Reminisce
13. Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror

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Post by Honorio » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:32 pm

1. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel
2. Pepe Deluxé - Queen of The Wave
3. Ondatrópica - Ondatrópica
4. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers
5. John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting
6. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now
7. iamwhoami - kin
8. Alt-j - An Awesome Wave
9. King Tuff - King Tuff
10. Lower Dens - Nootropics
11. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club
12. Peaking Lights - Lucifer
13. Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by nicolas » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:19 pm

I don't have the time to listen to those albums now bu wow Ondatropica is.doing great!

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:22 am

I've counted up the votes of the ballots so far.

Is anybody else planning to cast a ballot? (Jackson? Nicolas? Rodneyontheblock? Moonbeam?) If not I'll reveal the results tonight.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jackson » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:45 am

I haven't listened to enough of these albums to make an intelligent vote, but I'm enjoying Pepe Deluxe and Ondatropica.

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Jirin » Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:17 am

And the results:

Scores: (If an album is on the bottom of every list it appears on, it will get a 0, and if it is on the top of every list it appears on, it will get a 12).

13. Sleigh Bells - Reign Of Terror 2.015
12. Claro Intelecto - Reform Club 2.708
11. John Mark Nelson - Waiting and Waiting 4.720
10. The Explorer's Club - Grand Hotel 5.401
9. Peaking Lights - Lucifer 5.623
8. iamamiwhoami - kin 5.956
7. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers 6.667
6. King Tuff - King Tuff 6.762
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5. The Tallest Man On Earth - There's No Leaving Now 6.970
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4. ∆ - An Awesome Wave 7.081
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3. Lower Dens - Nootropics 7.192
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2. Pepe Deluxe - Queen Of The Wave 7.923
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1. Ondatropica - Ondatropica 8.891

Congratulations on Ondatropica, the only album to appear higher on over half the lists against every other album in the competition. The winner will also be automatically entered into Moderately Acclaimed 4.

Thanks everyone!

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Re: Best Moderately Acclaimed Album Of The Year 2012: Finals

Post by Stephan » Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:21 am

5th place, not bad. Congratulations nicolas and thanks Jirin for a great game!

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