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Deerhoof Milk Man appears at N°32 on "Drowned in Sound (UK) - The Top 66 Albums of 2000-2005 (2006)"

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Post by lagire » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:18 pm

Peter Schilling Major Tom (Coming Home) Woxy.com (USA) - Modern Rock 500 Songs of All Time (combined rank 1989-2009) at N°825

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Sepultura Refuse / Resist appears on 1,001 Songs You Must Hear Before You Die, and 10,001 You Must Download (2015 Update) at 2nd order

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Siouxsie & the Banshees Arabian Knights appears at N° 1376 on Woxy.com (USA) - Modern Rock 500 Songs of All Time (combined rank 1989-2009)

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Post by lagire » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:25 am

Smashing Pumpkins Siva appears at N°758 on Woxy.com (USA) - Modern Rock 500 Songs of All Time (combined rank 1989-2009)
Smashing Pumpkins Drown appears at N°632

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Post by lagire » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:51 am

Squeeze Take Me I'm Yours appears at N°1008 on Woxy.com (USA) - Modern Rock 500 Songs of All Time (combined rank 1989-2009)
Idem for Cool For Cats at N°644

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Post by Krurze » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:27 pm

David Bowie - Lazarus is number 32 on the list SportsAlcohol.com (USA) - The Top 32 David Bowie Songs (2016), not number 40, as displayed on the song page

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Post by lagire » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:31 am

Ella Fitzgerald Ella in Berlin: Mack the Knife appears at N°184 on "FNAC (France) - The 1000 Best Albums of All Time (2008)"

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Post by lagire » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:13 pm

Flatlanders, The All American Music/More a Legend Than a Band appears both on "Tom Moon (USA) - 1000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008) " and on "The Rough Guide - Country: 100 Essential CDs (2000) "

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Post by Listyguy » Sat May 04, 2019 7:15 pm

Djam Leeli seems to be from 1989, is currently listed as 1983

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Arlo Guthrie Alice's Restaurant appears on Mojo (UK) - The Mojo Collection, 3rd and/or 4th Edition (2003/2007)

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Janis Ian Between the Lines appears at N°6 on "SheWired (USA) - The 100 Greatest Lesbian Albums of All Time (2011) "
and on "Tom Moon (USA) - 1000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008) " at next stop or Catalog Entry

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Post by lagire » Tue May 21, 2019 4:38 am

Iron Maiden Seventh Son of a Seventh Son appears at N°38 on "Classic Rock (UK) - The 100 Greatest Rock Albums of All Time (2001)"
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Post by lagire » Tue May 21, 2019 7:00 am

James McMurtry shouldn't be on letter M?

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Post by lagire » Thu May 23, 2019 6:59 am

Johnson, J.J. With Clifford Brown/The Eminent Jay Jay Johnson Volume 1 appears on NPR (USA) - Basic Jazz Record Library (2002)
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and on Jorge García (Spain) The 100 Greatest Jazz Records (1993)
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Johnson, Linton Kwesi/Poet and the Roots Dread Beat an' Blood appears on RoRoRo Rock-Lexicon (Germany) - Most Recommended Albums (2003)
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Kelly, Wynton Kelly Blue appears on "Jazz 88.3 FM (USA) - 88 Jazz Recordings You Should Have in Your Jazz Collection "
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Konitz, Lee Motion Appears on Fred Kaplan (USA) - Top 100 Jazz Albums of the Twentieth Century

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Post by lagire » Sun May 26, 2019 8:54 am

Train of Thought from Reflection Eternal appears on Tom Moon (USA) - 1000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)
, don't know if it's Next Stop or Catalog Entry

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Post by lagire » Tue May 28, 2019 4:37 am

Left Banke, The Walk Away Renee/Pretty Ballerina appears on "The Guardian (UK) - 1000 Albums to Hear Before You Die (2007)" under the compilation "There's Gonna Be a Storm: The Complete Recordings 1966-1969"
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Post by Sweepstakes Ron » Fri May 31, 2019 10:58 pm

I believe I brought this up a while ago in a different thread, but I believes Miles Davis "On the Corner" and "New York Girl" should be combined into a single entry, as they are really part of a single-track medley.

Also, ELP's "Karn Evil 9 - First Impression, Part 1" should probably just be changed to "Karn Evil 9" since most of the lists it's on list the entire composition.
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Post by Moonbeam » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:39 pm

Pretty sure the 1983 Hall & Oates song is "Say It Isn't So", not "Say It Ain't So".

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Post by Sweepstakes Ron » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:16 pm

I hate to bring back this old discussion, but this thread (particular post #6) provides evidence strongly suggesting that Eno's Here Come the Warm Jets was, in fact, first released in 1974: https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/ ... te.755536/
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Post by Henrik » Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:55 am

Sweepstakes Ron wrote:I hate to bring back this old discussion, but this thread (particular post #6) provides evidence strongly suggesting that Eno's Here Come the Warm Jets was, in fact, first released in 1974: https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/ ... te.755536/
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Post by BobPatience » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:42 am

The album, and songs from, 'Bryter Layter' by Nick Drake are listed for 1971, but it seems to be a 1970 record.

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Post by Sweepstakes Ron » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:42 pm

It appears that "We Are Your Friends" was first released in 2003. https://www.discogs.com/Justice-3-vs-Si ... ase/222948
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Post by Akhenaten » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:46 am

Superstar by Murray Head is from 1969 rather than 1970
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Post by Akhenaten » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:31 pm

A Horse With No Name by America is from 1971 rather than 1972
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Mancini, Henry Breakfast at Tiffany's appears on Mojo (UK) - The Mojo Collection, 3rd and/or 4th Edition (2003/2007)

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Post by Jap123 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:32 pm

This may have been asked before, but are Jazz albums dated by release or recording dates on here, because i've noticed a few where the release date differs on here from rym/discogs etc.?

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Post by Henrik » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:45 pm

Jap123 wrote:This may have been asked before, but are Jazz albums dated by release or recording dates on here, because i've noticed a few where the release date differs on here from rym/discogs etc.?
Which ones? It’s supposed to be release dates.
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Post by lagire » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:07 am

Henrik wrote:
Jap123 wrote:This may have been asked before, but are Jazz albums dated by release or recording dates on here, because i've noticed a few where the release date differs on here from rym/discogs etc.?
Which ones? It’s supposed to be release dates.
Yes, i saw some also, but i thought it was like that for Jazz Albums

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Post by lagire » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:38 am

Henrik, there's an album which, in my opinion, shoud be included on AM.
it's Gerry Mulligan "Gerry Mulligan Quartet/The Original Quartet with Chet Baker" 1953.
It appears on 6 lists (for lists i have checked, and a lot of AM Inclusion have less than that), all no order.
Also listed as "The Original Quartet with Chet Baker"
- David Toop (UK) - Ocean of Sound: Aether Talk, Ambient Sound and Imaginary Worlds (1995)
http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/vi ... f=3&t=2134
- The Guardian (UK) - 1000 Albums to Hear Before You Die (2007)
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2007/ ... oreyoudie6
- Jazzguide (Germany) - Recommended Records
https://web.archive.org/web/20060223083 ... menu41.htm
- Rondo (Germany) - Jazz Milestones
https://web.archive.org/web/20071014193 ... inhalt.htm
- ZEIT (Germany) - 100 Modern Classics (2007)
http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/vi ... f=3&t=1143
- Jorge García (Spain?) - The 100 Greatest Jazz Records (1993)
I found somewhere one day (but i don't know how) the list.
And i'm not sure it's an non order list, i found several sources which listed as a rank list
http://sesentosos.foroactivo.com/t6059- ... jazz-nuevo

I know all are not absolutely same albums, but this brings together Gerry Mulligan albums with Chet Baker on 1953.
Are you agree with that?

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Post by BobPatience » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:10 pm

The Zeit list is ranked but then put in alphabetical order with the rank in parentheses.

I am not a Jazz-listener but these lists seem to refer to different albums:

David Toop and Jazzguide seems to name: https://www.discogs.com/Gerry-Mulligan- ... ter/783105
The Guardian and Zeit name: https://www.discogs.com/Gerry-Mulligan- ... se/7569229
Rondo: https://www.discogs.com/Gerry-Mulligan- ... er/1514269 (Discogs seems to only have CDs, but the (double) LP is presumably from 1953).
Jorge García: https://www.discogs.com/Mulligan-Baker- ... ter/197006 (Which the site lists as 1953, but seems to be a 1991 CD compilation (according to the CD 'Festive Minor' was recorded in 1957 so a 1953 release seems impossible anyway))

Of these only the first seems to not be a compilation, and thus AM-eligible.
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Post by Harold » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:44 pm

lagire wrote:Henrik, there's an album which, in my opinion, shoud be included on AM.
it's Gerry Mulligan "Gerry Mulligan Quartet/The Original Quartet with Chet Baker" 1953.
I believe this (or, a version of this) was included on AM at one time, when Henrik was first adding jazz albums to the database (2005); along with a few other albums, Henrik deleted its listing after re-classifying it as a compilation. I can't recall the specifics of the decision.

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Post by lagire » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:23 am

Harold wrote:
lagire wrote:Henrik, there's an album which, in my opinion, shoud be included on AM.
it's Gerry Mulligan "Gerry Mulligan Quartet/The Original Quartet with Chet Baker" 1953.
I believe this (or, a version of this) was included on AM at one time, when Henrik was first adding jazz albums to the database (2005); along with a few other albums, Henrik deleted its listing after re-classifying it as a compilation. I can't recall the specifics of the decision.
Ok but in RYM, it appears on 3 different albums, shouldn't this decision be revised?
And in AM, there's other compilations like that.

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Peter Gabriel Steam appears at N°549 on "Woxy.com (USA) - Modern Rock 500 Songs of All Time (combined rank 1989-2009) "

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Post by Akhenaten » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:23 pm

Richard Hell's Blank Generation is from 1976 rather than 1977, on the Another World EP.
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Post by Henrik » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:23 pm

Akhenaten wrote:Richard Hell's Blank Generation is from 1976 rather than 1977, on the Another World EP.
Perhaps it should, although it’s a different, unacclaimed, version. It was also mentioned that the original version of ”West End Girls” is from 1984. And Honorio listed MGMT’s ”Time to Pretend” and ”Kids” as 2005 songs in his topic of the most acclaimed books, movies and records.

Who wants these years to be changed? Who doesn’t?

If the rule becomes to file all songs under the release year of their first release, then what other songs should also be changed to earlier years?
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Post by Moonbeam » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:21 pm

The 1985 song by The Smiths appears to be "Shakespeare's Sister", not "Shakespear's Sister".

As far as songs with multiple release dates, I think I prefer the date to correspond to the most acclaimed version. How many 1984 lists did "West End Girls" appear in?

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Post by BobPatience » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:11 pm

I agree with Moonbeam on preferring the date that corresponds to the most acclaimed version.

But then some dates should be moved to a later year, e.g. 'Walking on Sunshine' by Katrina and the Waves or ' 'Go' by Moby.
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