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luvulongTIM wrote:I liked the Queens album actually. You want to talk about an album I’m NOT a fan of go up a notch. Not worthy of even being ranked. When she plays the harp I think of Morticia Adams doing her high pitched “Tokyo” squealing bit in the Addams Family. That and when she “sings” I think of the sound that the bird makes from Alice in Wonderland when the Queen rings their neck when they’re about to play polo with it.

I never know what to think about Joanna Newsom and in my moments of disliking her that’s what she sounds like to me as well.

luvulongTIM wrote:You want to talk about an album I’m NOT a fan of go up a notch. Not worthy of even being ranked. When she plays the harp I think of Morticia Adams doing her high pitched “Tokyo” squealing bit in the Addams Family. That and when she “sings” I think of the sound that the bird makes from Alice in Wonderland when the Queen rings their neck when they’re about to play polo with it.

I think Joanna's voice is an acquired taste. I personally think she sings on pitch, I'm not sure if you are saying she is off-key. I also think the way she sings brings a very unique character to her music, and especially this album in particular. My number 1 thing in music is melody, but the ability to create a sense of time and place is up there, and Joanna and her harp-playing check that box big time.

luvulongTIM wrote:I liked the Queens album actually. You want to talk about an album I’m NOT a fan of go up a notch. Not worthy of even being ranked. When she plays the harp I think of Morticia Adams doing her high pitched “Tokyo” squealing bit in the Addams Family. That and when she “sings” I think of the sound that the bird makes from Alice in Wonderland when the Queen rings their neck when they’re about to play polo with it.

I very much wanted to enjoy Joanna Newsom because she is from a small town in California where my cousin lives. But, her voice is very annoying for me. I admire her compositions and would probably enjoy the harp playing if it wasn't for her voice.

I hated Ys the first time I heard it, but I quite enjoy it these days (I put the album in my top 20). Her voice isn't that much more off-putting than some other artists I like (Dylan, Waits, etc), and after getting used to it I could more appreciate the other elements of her music.

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15. TV on The Radio - Dear Science
Score: 1207.8 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 48 (404 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 44
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 17

Fans: BangJan(5), KingofTonga(7), sonofsamiam(9), Toni(7)
Not Fans: phil(108/114)



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14. Kanye West - The College Dropout
Score: 1211.8 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 17 (209 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 9
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 16

Fans: ChrisK(11), maverick470(6), Nassim(3), rumpdoll(7)
Lowest rank: bonnielaurel(129)



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13. The Knife - Silent Shout
Score: 1222.1 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 31 (276 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 27
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 21

Fans: BleuPanda(4), ChrisK(15), Jirin(2), KingofTonga(2), Nassim(4)
Not Fans: andyd1010(114/119), Henry(140), Listyguy(149)



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12. PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
Score: 1225.4 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 29 (257 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 33
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 18

Fans: bonnielaurel(12), Listyguy(13), maverick470(11)
Lowest rank: BangJan(74/145)



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11. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
Score: 1242.2 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 28 (255 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 15
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 13

Fans: DaveC(4), KingofTonga(10), phil(5)
Lowest rank: Nassim(127)

Regarding Ys, I don't find Joana Newsom's voice a problem on that album, while it sometimes was in the Milk Eyed Mender (except on Peach, Plum, Pear, still her best song).

Surprised to see Dear Science so high, I thought TV on the Radio's fall from grace would hurt it too. Do you overall think it is that much better than Return to Cookie Mountain ? (I don't)

Nassim wrote:Regarding Ys, I don't find Joana Newsom's voice a problem on that album, while it sometimes was in the Milk Eyed Mender (except on Peach, Plum, Pear, still her best song).

Surprised to see Dear Science so high, I thought TV on the Radio's fall from grace would hurt it too. Do you overall think it is that much better than Return to Cookie Mountain ? (I don't)

I'm one (of many) who voted Dear Science well above Return to Cookie Mountain. I do like Return to Cookie Mountain, but it is the production that hurts it for me. I recall telling my son that their production choices grated with me and how much better I thought the album could have been. He gave me the 'you don't get it' talk and told me that the production is a feature not a bug. I know he still loves it, so I guess I still don't get it.

I think Cookie Mountain has better singles but weak second half and Dear Science is better overall.

Can’t stand QOTSA, they seem cheesy and generic to me.

I love Newsom but I get why others don’t. I suspect it correlates with how well you tolerate voices like Tom Waits too, if you are predisposed to look past pitch quality to emotional content.

I guess I'm in the minority here that loves Cookie Mountain, more so than Dear Science. I absolutely love the production, funny enough. To each his/her own I suppose.

Impressive climbs into the top 10 at #9 and #6:-




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10. The White Stripes - Elephant
Score: 1243.3 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 5 (78 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 8
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 7

Fans: DaveC(15), Jirin(1), Listyguy(10), maverick470(4), whuntva(1)
Lowest rank: rumpdoll(94)



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9. Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven!
Score: 1243.7 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 61 (483 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 43
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 50

Fans: bonnielaurel(3), Brad(1), Gillingham(3), Jirin(14), Listyguy(5), rumpdoll(8)
Not Fans: maverick470(120/122), Toni(115/117)

DepecheMode: Some interesting sections, but nothing terribly original to me and I have not even listened to more than 3 post-rock albums. Fails to captivate me for it’s long runtime. Certainly not to enough to warrant top 30 or so of all-time, RYM!



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8. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Score: 1291 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 4 (75 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 7
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 6

Fans: BangJan(8), BleuPanda(6), ChrisK(5), KingofTonga(14), maverick470(9), Toni(11)
Lowest rank: rumpdoll(129)



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7. The Strokes - Is This It
Score: 1314.1 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 2 (36 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 5
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 4

Fans: Brad(10), ChrisK(6), Listyguy(1), LiveinPhoenix(3), maverick470(8), whuntva(8)
Lowest rank: bonnielaurel(119)



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6. Portishead - Third
Score: 1323.6 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 21 (227 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 19
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 33

Fans: Brad(14), DepecheMode(1), KingofTonga(9), rumpdoll(4)
Not Fans: LiveinPhoenix(63/68), whuntva(87/93)

That was a great group of albums, and a great climb by GYBE! Sad that The Strokes fell out of the top 5 though...

Note the huge points gap between 5 & 4. Then another large points gap between 4 & 3. The top 3 being only separated by 30 points. The sequence of those top 3 changed with every ballot.


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5. LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
Score: 1368.8 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 8 (113 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 6
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 5

Fans: BleuPanda(1), ChrisK(8), Jirin(7), KingofTonga(11), Listyguy(3), Nassim(5)
Not Fans: LiveinPhoenix(62/68)



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4. Radiohead - In Rainbows
Score: 1625.9 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 6 (83 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 4
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 8

Fans: andyd1010(6), BleuPanda(12), ChrisK(3), DepecheMode(2), Gillingham(1), JamieW(12), KingofTonga(1), rumpdoll(2), Toni(5)
Lowest rank: bonnielaurel(74)

Some interesting results so far in the top 20. Dear Science is a nice surprise at 15 (especially without my vote, which would have been in the top 10). I'm sure no one expected Godspeed to make the top 10 or Third to top Is This It either.

Pleasantly shocked to see Godspeed make it to top ten.

I guess after seeing how well Luciferian Towers did here compared to critics, not *that* shocking.

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3. Radiohead - Kid A
Score: 1732.8 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 3 (38 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 1
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 3

Fans: BangJan(1), BleuPanda(3), Brad(9), ChrisK(1), DaveC(14), DepecheMode(3), Gillingham(5), JamieW(6), KingofTonga(3), Listyguy(2), LiveinPhoenix(4), phil(10), rumpdoll(10)
Lowest rank: Toni(85/117)

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2. Arcade Fire - Funeral
Score: 1759.1 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 1 (27 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 2
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 1

Fans: andyd1010(1), BleuPanda(5), Brad(5), ChrisK(4), DaveC(2), Henry(5), JamieW(2), KingofTonga(6), Listyguy(8), LiveinPhoenix(2), maverick470(1), Nassim(2), phil(1)
Lowest rank: sonofsamiam(89)

DepecheMode: Never was a fan of this record overall. Like the songs more than the full album, it was always too overwrought for me to take all at once. I prefer their rockier stuff.



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1. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
Score: 1762 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 7 (90 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 3
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 2

Fans: andyd1010(5), BangJan(13), BleuPanda(2), bonnielaurel(10), ChrisK(12), Henry(1), Jirin(11), KingofTonga(5), Listyguy(11), LiveinPhoenix(6), maverick470(5), Nassim(6), phil(6), spiritualized(1), Toni(2)
Lowest rank: Brad(127)

This was great, thanks again Dave! Awesome presentation!

Ditto: Thank you DaveC. Awesome handling and rollout for an awesome decade.

I'm actually a bit surprised at the list of people that put Illinois at/near the top. I guess it goes to show that Illinois touches the hearts of a lot of different people.

Thanks for another great presentation, DaveC! I love how these decade polls are always so unpredictable. Who would've guessed GYBE would finish in the top 10 when it was only the 5th ranked album of its year? Also, I thought it was a foregone conclusion "Funeral" would be #1. But then I've always underestimated the universal appeal of "Illinois." (Probably because it's always seemed like an album that wouldn't be for all tastes. The fact that nearly everyone seems to like it says a lot about the talents of Sufjan.)

Great poll and perfect presentation, DaveC. I think these decade polls are the best way to evaluate and discover the best music from each era. Like Henrik once said, the most accurate way to rank a group of albums, is to make everybody listen to same pieces and than rank them all. That has lead to a fairer evaluation of albums like "Third", "Stories from the City...", and (even if I put it almost in my last place) "Godspeed".
Happy surprise to see "Illinoise" crowning it all. Deserved one.

Awesome job DaveC!!! Will definitely be looking forward to see how a poll like this for the 2010's turns out...

Thanks for participating everyone, and thanks for the thanks Listy, prosecutorgodot, JamieW, Toni, notbrianeno, Dan, and Henrik.

I was pleased about pretty much every album that improved it's performance in this poll compared with past polls. But I was also surprised that Illinoise took top spot away from Funeral/Kid A, in fact, I gave it it's second lowest ranking at #51 on my list, while the next lowest was #30. That is the decisive factor, it is an album that almost everyone likes, while Funeral & Kid A - while not being hated - each garner some middle of the pack votes. It is interesting that AM would put 'Is This It' in the top 3 instead of Illinoise.

The way these polls evolve over time is interesting, and when we get to a 2010s poll it will be fascinating to see how much our revised consideration of albums differs from the first impression of our year end polls.

Excellent presentation, DaveC. I would have liked to participate here (it's the first decade poll I couldn't find the time to vote) but I enjoyed a lot the results. Thank you very much.

Will there be spreadsheets of the album and song results?

Bang Jan wrote:Will there be spreadsheets of the album and song results?

Full list & spreadsheet

1 | Sufjan Stevens | Illinois | 2005
2 | Arcade Fire | Funeral | 2004
3 | Radiohead | Kid A | 2000
4 | Radiohead | In Rainbows | 2007
5 | LCD Soundsystem | Sound of Silver | 2007
6 | Portishead | Third | 2008
7 | The Strokes | Is This It | 2001
8 | Wilco | Yankee Hotel Foxtrot | 2002
9 | Godspeed You Black Emperor! | Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven! | 2000
10 | The White Stripes | Elephant | 2003
11 | Fleet Foxes | Fleet Foxes | 2008
12 | PJ Harvey | Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea | 2000
13 | The Knife | Silent Shout | 2006
14 | Kanye West | The College Dropout | 2004
15 | TV on The Radio | Dear Science | 2008
16 | Queens of the Stone Age | Songs for the Deaf | 2002
17 | Joanna Newsom | Ys | 2006
18 | Interpol | Turn on the Bright Lights | 2002
19 | Sigur Rós | () | 2002
20 | Radiohead | Amnesiac | 2001
21 | The National | Boxer | 2007
22 | OutKast | Stankonia | 2000
23 | Coldplay | A Rush of Blood to the Head | 2002
24 | The White Stripes | White Blood Cells | 2001
25 | Beck | Sea Change | 2002
26 | Arcade Fire | Neon Bible | 2007
27 | The Flaming Lips | Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots | 2002
28 | The xx | xx | 2009
29 | Arctic Monkeys | Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not | 2006
30 | Kanye West | Late Registration | 2005
31 | LCD Soundsystem | LCD Soundsystem | 2005
32 | Bon Iver | For Emma, Forever Ago | 2007
33 | M.I.A. | Kala | 2007
34 | Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds | Abattoir Blues / The Lyre of Orpheus | 2004
35 | Gorillaz | Demon Days | 2005
36 | Green Day | American Idiot | 2004
37 | Kashiwa Daisuke | Program Music I | 2007
38 | The Avalanches | Since I Left You | 2000
39 | Radiohead | Hail to the Thief | 2003
40 | Animal Collective | Merriweather Post Pavilion | 2009
41 | Primal Scream | XTRMNTR | 2000
42 | Vampire Weekend | Vampire Weekend | 2008
43 | Sleater-Kinney | One Beat | 2002
44 | Daft Punk | Discovery | 2001
45 | Low | Things We Lost in the Fire | 2001
46 | Franz Ferdinand | Franz Ferdinand | 2004
47 | Amy Winehouse | Back to Black | 2006
48 | TV on the Radio | Return to Cookie Mountain | 2006
49 | Sleater-Kinney | The Woods | 2005
50 | Muse | Origin of Symmetry | 2001
51 | Muse | Absolution | 2003
52 | Burial | Untrue | 2007
53 | Eminem | The Marshall Mathers LP | 2000
54 | Fever Ray | Fever Ray | 2009
55 | Coldplay | Parachutes | 2000
56 | The Decemberists | Picaresque | 2005
57 | Sufjan Stevens | Michigan | 2003
58 | The Go! Team | Thunder, Lightning, Strike | 2004
59 | Four Tet | Rounds | 2003
60 | Elliott Smith | From a Basement on the Hill | 2004
61 | Elliott Smith | Figure 8 | 2000
62 | Jay-Z | The Blueprint | 2001
63 | Belle and Sebastian | Dear Catastrophe Waitress | 2003
64 | Sigur Rós | Takk… | 2005
65 | Belle and Sebastian | The Life Pursuit | 2006
66 | The Decemberists | The Crane Wife | 2006
67 | Grandaddy | The Sophtware Slump | 2000
68 | Deltron 3030 | Deltron 3030 | 2000
69 | Björk | Vespertine | 2001
70 | PJ Harvey | White Chalk | 2007
71 | Grizzly Bear | Veckatimest | 2009
72 | The Good, the Bad and the Queen | The Good, the Bad and the Queen | 2007
73 | Bat for Lashes | Two Suns | 2009
74 | Muse | Black Holes and Revelations | 2006
75 | The Streets | A Grand Don't Come for Free | 2004
76 | J Dilla | Donuts | 2006
77 | Interpol | Antics | 2004
78 | Spoon | Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga | 2007
79 | Robyn | Robyn | 2005
80 | Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds | Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!! | 2008
81 | Madvillain | Madvillainy | 2004
82 | Elbow | The Seldom Seen Kid | 2008
83 | The Fiery Furnaces | Blueberry Boat | 2004
84 | Morrissey | You Are the Quarry | 2004
85 | Modest Mouse | The Moon and Antarctica | 2000
86 | Fuck Buttons | Tarot Sport | 2009
87 | Jay-Z | The Black Album | 2003
88 | Johnny Cash | American IV: The Man Comes Around | 2002
89 | The Cure | Bloodflowers | 2000
90 | The National | Alligator | 2005
91 | Johnny Cash | American III: Solitary Man | 2000
92 | Queens of the Stone Age | Rated R | 2000
93 | Scott Walker | The Drift | 2006
94 | OutKast | Speakerboxxx / The Love Below | 2003
95 | Florence and the Machine | Lungs | 2009
96 | Sunn O))) | Monoliths and Dimensions | 2009
97 | Agalloch | The Mantle | 2002
98 | Super Furry Animals | Rings Around the World | 2001
99 | MGMT | Oracular Spectacular | 2007
100 | Brian Wilson | SMiLE | 2004
101 | Wilco | A Ghost is Born | 2004
102 | Coldplay | Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends | 2008
103 | Ghostface Killah | Fishscale | 2006
104 | My Morning Jacket | Z | 2005
105 | Bright Eyes | I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning | 2005
106 | Yeah Yeah Yeahs | It's Blitz! | 2009
107 | The Killers | Hot Fuss | 2004
108 | Erykah Badu | New Amerykah Part One (4th World War) | 2008
109 | Gang Gang Dance | Saint Dymphna | 2008
110 | The Wrens | The Meadowlands | 2003
111 | Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man | Out of Season | 2002
112 | Gnarls Barkley | St. Elsewhere | 2006
113 | At the Drive-In | Relationship of Command | 2000
114 | Yeah Yeah Yeahs | Fever to Tell | 2003
115 | The Streets | Original Pirate Material | 2002
116 | Kanye West | 808s and Heartbreak | 2008
117 | Dizzee Rascal | Boy in da Corner | 2003
118 | Weezer | Weezer (Green Album) | 2001
119 | Modest Mouse | Good News For People Who Love Bad News | 2004
120 | Kate Bush | Aerial | 2005
121 | Cannibal Ox | The Cold Vein | 2001
122 | The Shins | Chutes Too Narrow | 2003
123 | The Libertines | Up the Bracket | 2002
124 | Antony and The Johnsons | I Am a Bird Now | 2005
125 | Animal Collective | Strawberry Jam | 2007
126 | Tom Waits | Alice | 2002
127 | Dirty Projectors | Bitte Orca | 2009
128 | M.I.A. | Arular | 2005
129 | D'Angelo | Voodoo | 2000
130 | U2 | All That You Can't Leave Behind | 2000
131 | Bruce Springsteen | The Rising | 2002
132 | Justin Timberlake | FutureSex/LoveSounds | 2006
133 | Gorillaz | Gorillaz | 2001
134 | Edan | Beauty and the Beat | 2005
135 | Tom Waits | Orphans: Brawlers, Bawlers and Bastards | 2006
136 | Phoenix | Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix | 2009
137 | The Strokes | Room on Fire | 2003
138 | Studio | West Coast | 2006
139 | Bob Dylan | Love and Theft | 2001
140 | Ryan Adams | Heartbreaker | 2000
141 | Panda Bear | Person Pitch | 2007
142 | Kanye West | Graduation | 2007
143 | Antony and the Johnsons | The Crying Light | 2009
144 | Loretta Lynn | Van Lear Rose | 2004
145 | Red Hot Chili Peppers | By the Way | 2002
146 | Richard Hawley | Coles Corner | 2005
147 | The White Stripes | Get Behind Me Satan | 2005
148 | The Hold Steady | Stay Positive | 2008
149 | The Killers | Sam's Town | 2006
150 | System of a Down | Toxicity | 2001

Honorio wrote:Excellent presentation, DaveC. I would have liked to participate here (it's the first decade poll I couldn't find the time to vote) but I enjoyed a lot the results. Thank you very much.

Thanks Honorio.

That's pretty bad, I actually forgot to place Illnois. Funeral would have been no.1 if I did.

Thanks DaveC for all your work on these decade polls.

The results, and personal re-appraisals, discoveries, and submissions are all over... These are my top 15 albums & songs of the decade (regardless of making it to the final round).

Albums:
1. Joanna Newsom - Ys
2. Arcade Fire - Funeral
3. The Strokes - Is This It
4. Radiohead - Kid A
5. Tori Amos - The Beekeeper
6. Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner
7. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
8. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
9. Kanye West - Late Registration
10. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
11. Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy
12. Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
13. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come for Free
14. Jay-Z - The Black Album
15. Amy Winehouse - Back to Black

Songs:
1. Bat for Lashes - Daniel
2. Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)
3. M.I.A. - Paper Planes
4. Gnarls Barkley - Crazy
5. Rihanna feat. Jay-Z - Umbrella
6. Joanna Newsom - Emily
7. U2 - Beautiful Day
8. Gillian Welch - Elvis Presley Blues
9. Courtney Marie Andrews - The Buffalo & the Bird
10. Natalie feat. Baby Bash - Energy
11. Sufjan Stevens - Chicago
12. Dirty Projectors - Stillness Is the Move
13. George Michael - Amazing
14. Eminem - Without Me
15. Gillian Welch - Everything Is Free

Thanks DaveC for a well run poll throughout the year.

Amazing after all that just 3 points separating the top 2 and all all of the top 3 that close.

I was happy with most of the movements since last time too. The one that sticks out as disappointing is Person Pitch - Panda Bear. But can’t win ‘em all I guess.