[Results] Albums of the 2000s

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[Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:40 am

Compiled from rankings by:-

andyd1010
BangJan
BleuPanda
bonnielaurel
Brad
ChrisK
DaveC
Depeche Mode
Gillingham
Henry
JamieW
Jirin
kingoftonga
Listyguy
LiveinPhoenix
luvulongTIM
maverick470
Nassim
phil
rumpdoll
sonofsamiam
spiritualized
Toni
whuntva

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:52 am

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150. System of a Down - Toxicity
Score: 711.6 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 83 (665 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 63
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: Nassim(28)
Not Fans: BangJan(143/145), ChrisK(147), DaveC(142), DepecheMode(62/68), Gillingham(73/74), KingofTonga(141/141), Listyguy(143), phil(114/114)



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149. The Killers - Sam's Town
Score: 718.8 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#14 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: Bubbling
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 158
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: Henry(29)
Not Fans: BangJan(144/145), BleuPanda(150), Brad(140), ChrisK(145), JamieW(137), sonofsamiam(149), whuntva(91/93)



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148. The Hold Steady - Stay Positive
Score: 739.1 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 329 (2177 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 235
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 82

Highest rank: Brad(26)
Not Fans: ChrisK(149), JamieW(145), sonofsamiam(136)



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147. The White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan
Score: 739.8 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#15 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 207 (1411 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 103
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: KingofTonga(44)
Lowest rank: Brad(130)



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146. Richard Hawley - Coles Corner
Score: 742.4 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#13 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 268 (1848 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 334
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: phil(33)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(148), KingofTonga(137/141)



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145. Red Hot Chili Peppers - By the Way
Score: 747.6 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 291 (1979 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 84
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Henry(8)
Not Fans: BangJan(136/145), BleuPanda(138), Brad(144), ChrisK(142), maverick470(117/122), rumpdoll(144), sonofsamiam(139)

DepecheMode: Musically varied and eclectic, which I like. I wasn’t particulary in mood for Kiedis voice, which is very specific and easy to be annoyed by. Might like this more sometime in the future.



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144. Loretta Lynn - Van Lear Rose
Score: 757.1 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#17 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 194 (1334 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 171
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: Jirin(20)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(143), DaveC(137), spiritualized(99/109)



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143. Antony and the Johnsons - The Crying Light
Score: 760 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#12 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 304 (2073 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 365
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: DaveC(48)
Not Fans: Jirin(141/147), phil(106/114)



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142. Kanye West - Graduation
Score: 767.6 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#13 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 122 (913 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 83
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: rumpdoll(35)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(138), Gillingham(69/74), Jirin(133/147), phil(112/114)



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141. Panda Bear - Person Pitch
Score: 776.7 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 47 (402 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 74
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 90

Fans: phil(9)
Not Fans: JamieW(146), Listyguy(137), spiritualized(105/109)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by StevieFan13 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:02 am

Can't say I'm overly disappointed so far, except for maybe the low placing of Graduation.
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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:51 pm

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140. Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker
Score: 776.9 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#19 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 60 (460 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 238
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: DepecheMode(23)
Not Fans: Brad(149), rumpdoll(145)



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139. Bob Dylan - Love and Theft
Score: 781.2 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 45 (394 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 136
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 59

Highest rank: LiveinPhoenix(16)
Not Fans: andyd1010(108/119), JamieW(139), Nassim(150), rumpdoll(140)



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138. Studio - West Coast
Score: 782 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#16 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: Bubbling
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 410
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: Listyguy(36)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(147)



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137. The Strokes - Room on Fire
Score: 787.1 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#13 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 195 (1338 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 126
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 89

Highest rank: andyd1010(26)
Lowest rank: BleuPanda(135)



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136. Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
Score: 787.3 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 68 (540 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 93
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 79

Highest rank: maverick470(22)
Not Fans: Toni(108/117)



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135. Tom Waits - Orphans: Brawlers, Bawlers and Bastards
Score: 787.9 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#12 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 269 (1853 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 179
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 64

Highest rank: Jirin(18)
Not Fans: ChrisK(144), Henry(148), JamieW(141), Nassim(143)



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134. Edan - Beauty and the Beat
Score: 789.1 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#12 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 431 (2940 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 153
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: sonofsamiam(17)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(144), bonnielaurel(143), Brad(147), ChrisK(138), DaveC(144)



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133. Gorillaz - Gorillaz
Score: 796.3 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 187 (1288 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 105
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 95

Highest rank: Nassim(27)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(144), luvulongTIM(52/53)



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132. Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds
Score: 797.1 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#13 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 80 (653 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 49
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: maverick470(12)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(140), bonnielaurel(148), Brad(150), phil(110/114)



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131. Bruce Springsteen - The Rising
Score: 802.1 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 164 (1180 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 172
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: Henry(25)
Not Fans: ChrisK(148), rumpdoll(143)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by andyd1010 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:18 pm

I guess I should be happy it made it this far, but I'm still shocked by the hate for Sam's Town (besides BangJan and sonofsamiam... I'm coming to expect that). BleuPanda, 150/150 :(

I ranked it 33/119 and I just re-listened to it. I don't hear an embarrassing "Are we human or are we dancer" moment. When You Were Young is a classic, and Read Your Mind has one of their best climactic moments (really one of my favorites in any song). This River Is Wild has a phenomenal chorus. I think Sam's Town is far more consistent than Hot Fuss, which is only close overall because of the 1-2 punch of All These Things That I've Done and Mr. Brightside. Oh well.

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Post by BleuPanda » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:30 pm

andyd1010 wrote:I guess I should be happy it made it this far, but I'm still shocked by the hate for Sam's Town (besides BangJan and sonofsamiam... I'm coming to expect that). BleuPanda, 150/150 :(

I ranked it 33/119 and I just re-listened to it. I don't hear an embarrassing "Are we human or are we dancer" moment. When You Were Young is a classic, and Read Your Mind has one of their best climactic moments (really one of my favorites in any song). This River Is Wild has a phenomenal chorus. I think Sam's Town is far more consistent than Hot Fuss, which is only close overall because of the 1-2 punch of All These Things That I've Done and Mr. Brightside. Oh well.

Well...I don't really like Hot Fuss either, so... (though I do generally like their big singles)

I wouldn't say I hated Sam's Town as much as nothing on it really hit me besides When You Were Young. It just kind of played.

As far as other albums I'm considered 'haters' of, my breakdown is:
Rank 1-3: 10/10, with 10 meaning 'all-time masterpiece'
Rank 4-64: 9-9.9/10, with the 9 range meaning 'phenomenal'
Rank 65-131: 8.0-8.9, meaning 'great'
Rank 132-147: 7.0-7.75, meaning 'good'
Rank 148-149: 6.0-6.75, meaning 'above average'
Rank 150: 5.5/10, meaning 'average'

So it's not that I hate those lower albums as much as being 'best of the decade' requires being more than just good.

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Post by Nassim » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:31 pm

andyd1010 wrote:I guess I should be happy it made it this far, but I'm still shocked by the hate for Sam's Town (besides BangJan and sonofsamiam... I'm coming to expect that). BleuPanda, 150/150 :(

I ranked it 33/119 and I just re-listened to it. I don't hear an embarrassing "Are we human or are we dancer" moment. When You Were Young is a classic, and Read Your Mind has one of their best climactic moments (really one of my favorites in any song). This River Is Wild has a phenomenal chorus. I think Sam's Town is far more consistent than Hot Fuss, which is only close overall because of the 1-2 punch of All These Things That I've Done and Mr. Brightside. Oh well.
I would agree that it is a nice improvement over Hot Fuss, way more consistent indeed (though that's not enough to avoid ending in my bottom third).

Surprised and glad a certain black and yellow album hasn't appeared yet (not talking about the black, yellow and orange one, though I'm surprised that one hasn't showed up either), it was my bet for #150 as I expect it to rank very low on several lists (unless it's just unranked, which might help).
A bit surprised too that Toxicity took the last spot, it might not be the most subtle album ever (but then again, still way more than some than ranked above it) and it shows, if anything else, creativity and a huge personality. Plus #8 of its year wasn't too bad !

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by andyd1010 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:45 pm

BleuPanda wrote:
andyd1010 wrote:I guess I should be happy it made it this far, but I'm still shocked by the hate for Sam's Town (besides BangJan and sonofsamiam... I'm coming to expect that). BleuPanda, 150/150 :(

I ranked it 33/119 and I just re-listened to it. I don't hear an embarrassing "Are we human or are we dancer" moment. When You Were Young is a classic, and Read Your Mind has one of their best climactic moments (really one of my favorites in any song). This River Is Wild has a phenomenal chorus. I think Sam's Town is far more consistent than Hot Fuss, which is only close overall because of the 1-2 punch of All These Things That I've Done and Mr. Brightside. Oh well.

Well...I don't really like Hot Fuss either, so... (though I do generally like their big singles)

I wouldn't say I hated Sam's Town as much as nothing on it really hit me besides When You Were Young. It just kind of played.

As far as other albums I'm considered 'haters' of, my breakdown is:
Rank 1-3: 10/10, with 10 meaning 'all-time masterpiece'
Rank 4-64: 9-9.9/10, with the 9 range meaning 'phenomenal'
Rank 65-131: 8.0-8.9, meaning 'great'
Rank 132-147: 7.0-7.75, meaning 'good'
Rank 148-149: 6.0-6.75, meaning 'above average'
Rank 150: 5.5/10, meaning 'average'

So it's not that I hate those lower albums as much as being 'best of the decade' requires being more than just good.
Just noticed that we also have dueling opinions of Room on Fire, but I understand that much more after Rob's "which Strokes song is this" argument... Some of these do blend together, although I like them and I think it works for listening to the album as a whole.

It's really impressive how you can connect at least to some extent with practically everything that's acclaimed. I'm able to find something appealing in the vast majority of the songs and albums that were finalists, but the bottom handful I really don't get, and I would rank them way lower than a 5.5.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by BleuPanda » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:04 pm

andyd1010 wrote:It's really impressive how you can connect at least to some extent with practically everything that's acclaimed. I'm able to find something appealing in the vast majority of the songs and albums that were finalists, but the bottom handful I really don't get, and I would rank them way lower than a 5.5.

I think I'm just an optimist. It's hard for me to listen to music purely for enjoyment - perhaps largely because I simply enjoy the experience of listening to music. An album or song has to actively be unpleasant for me to dislike it, so I can listen to most good albums and get a similar amount of sonic pleasure. And I've always approached art with an interest in its place within society, and if I don't 'get' or enjoy a piece of music, I tend to explore why its fans like it and try to revisit it with their comments in mind. I guess, for me, I'm more interested in why these works have social significance than I am in enjoying without context. So, the more people analyze a work, the more I am intrigued by it. I guess I've always approached music as if I were an outsider, perhaps due to me not seriously listening to music until I was 17 (it was all video game soundtracks until then). Now that I'm 25 and have listened to over 2300 albums, maybe I need to get out of that phase...

Of course, it's not a one-to-one ratio (some albums I believe people are overvaluing, while others simply never got their moment in the spotlight - though I like to believe I could argue why Sheena Ringo, Foals, or The Go! Team deserve more attention on my own). Luckily, I'm seeing my song list start to diverge a bit from the acclaimed music list - not because I'm losing interest in the popular musical canon, as much as I'm finally finding the songs I'd like to see added among their ranks.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:23 pm

BleuPanda wrote: As far as other albums I'm considered 'haters' of
I deliberately don't use the word 'hater'. Of course that can sometimes be the case, but often not. I placed Sunn O))) and Scott Walker (sorry fans) at the bottom of my list, I don't hate either, they just fall too deep into challenging/inaccessible territory for me to enjoy at the moment. Albums like those have the potential to click at any time as my tastes evolve, so I'm also quite happy to see them get support from others.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by andyd1010 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:35 pm

BleuPanda wrote:
andyd1010 wrote:It's really impressive how you can connect at least to some extent with practically everything that's acclaimed. I'm able to find something appealing in the vast majority of the songs and albums that were finalists, but the bottom handful I really don't get, and I would rank them way lower than a 5.5.

I think I'm just an optimist. It's hard for me to listen to music purely for enjoyment - perhaps largely because I simply enjoy the experience of listening to music. An album or song has to actively be unpleasant for me to dislike it, so I can listen to most good albums and get a similar amount of sonic pleasure. And I've always approached art with an interest in its place within society, and if I don't 'get' or enjoy a piece of music, I tend to explore why its fans like it and try to revisit it with their comments in mind. I guess, for me, I'm more interested in why these works have social significance than I am in enjoying without context. So, the more people analyze a work, the more I am intrigued by it. I guess I've always approached music as if I were an outsider, perhaps due to me not seriously listening to music until I was 17 (it was all video game soundtracks until then). Now that I'm 25 and have listened to over 2300 albums, maybe I need to get out of that phase...

Of course, it's not a one-to-one ratio (some albums I believe people are overvaluing, while others simply never got their moment in the spotlight - though I like to believe I could argue why Sheena Ringo, Foals, or The Go! Team deserve more attention on my own). Luckily, I'm seeing my song list start to diverge a bit from the acclaimed music list - not because I'm losing interest in the popular musical canon, as much as I'm finally finding the songs I'd like to see added among their ranks.
Fair. I think I have a pretty similar approach (and timeline of getting serious about music), and most of the time I'm able to build up an appreciation by seeing others' perspectives. Sometimes I then get to a point where it really clicks with me - I would have ranked I Know It's Over a 1/10 five years ago, and now I'd put it in the 9s.

Last thing on The Killers... I can't imagine listening to 2:10-3:35 of Read My Mind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8hbSM1zVo) and saying "nothing on it really hit me." But evidently a few of you thought that.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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130. U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind
Score: 802.2 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 154 (1108 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 64
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 97

Fans: bonnielaurel(6)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(139), Brad(136), DepecheMode(63/68), Nassim(149), rumpdoll(147), sonofsamiam(147), spiritualized(103/109)



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129. D'Angelo - Voodoo
Score: 803.9 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#12 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 57 (449 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 53
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: bonnielaurel(18)
Not Fans: andyd1010(118/119), DaveC(148), KingofTonga(140/141), spiritualized(107/109)



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128. M.I.A. - Arular
Score: 804.1 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 36 (320 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 71
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 58

Highest rank: luvulongTIM(24)
Not Fans: andyd1010(113/119), Henry(146)



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127. Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca
Score: 804.6 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 72 (577 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 85
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 85

Highest rank: LiveinPhoenix(25)
Not Fans: JamieW(138), spiritualized(108/109)



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126. Tom Waits - Alice
Score: 811.8 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#13 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 390 (2591 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 315
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: sonofsamiam(14)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(149), Henry(150), KingofTonga(127/141), LiveinPhoenix(65/68)



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125. Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam
Score: 811.9 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#12 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 100 (749 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 119
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 77

Highest rank: DepecheMode(11)
Not Fans: JamieW(148), Listyguy(148), whuntva(93/93)

DepecheMode: More of a regularly listenable album than MPP, great songs all around, touching and immersive in their earnestness. Cuckoo Cuckoo is one of the most underrated songs from any acclaimed album, never failes to captivate fully.



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124. Antony and The Johnsons - I Am a Bird Now
Score: 812.9 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 30 (268 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 55
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 29

Highest rank: Gillingham(19)
Not Fans: maverick470(122/122), Nassim(147)



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123. The Libertines - Up the Bracket
Score: 813.6 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#14 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 34 (297 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 124
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Brad(13)
Not Fans: BangJan(142/145), JamieW(143), Listyguy(147)



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122. The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow
Score: 820.6 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 50 (427 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 61
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 51

Fans: Brad(12)
Not Fans: DaveC(136), rumpdoll(146)



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121. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Score: 821.9 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#14 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 120 (900 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 180
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: sonofsamiam(26)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(145), DaveC(146), Listyguy(136)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:37 am

Antony & The Johnsons have really underperformed in these polls. Don't know why.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:11 pm

In this group the black and yellow and the black yellow and orange..

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120. Kate Bush - Aerial
Score: 822.3 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#17 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 276 (1883 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: N/A
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: bonnielaurel(21)
Not Fans: Nassim(142)

DaveC: This is the only album on this list that appears to have received no votes at all in out 2017 all-time poll.



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119. Modest Mouse - Good News For People Who Love Bad News
Score: 822.5 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 171 (1211 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 80
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 83

Highest rank: luvulongTIM(8)
Not Fans: BangJan(132/145), DepecheMode(66/68), sonofsamiam(141)



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118. Weezer - Weezer (Green Album)
Score: 823.4 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#13 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 339 (2244 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 193
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Henry(11)
Not Fans: BangJan(141/145), JamieW(144), Jirin(137/147), sonofsamiam(142)



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117. Dizzee Rascal - Boy in da Corner
Score: 827.4 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 39 (329 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 102
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: BleuPanda(15), LiveinPhoenix(5), Nassim(14)
Not Fans: andyd1010(111/119), BangJan(133/145), bonnielaurel(142), DaveC(145), Listyguy(150), maverick470(116/122)



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116. Kanye West - 808s and Heartbreak
Score: 829.9 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 153 (1087 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 62
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Listyguy(9)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(147), Brad(143), Jirin(147/147), phil(113/114), whuntva(84/93)

Listyguy: Now that we've had ten years to look back on it, this might be Kanye's most influential album (lyrically and sonically, this album inspired an entire generation of rappers). That alone doesn't make an album good though. I happen to love the use of synthesizers and desparing lyrics that Kanye employs here.



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115. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
Score: 833.9 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 23 (237 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 79
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 46

Fans: BleuPanda(14)
Not Fans: andyd1010(116/119), BangJan(134/145), bonnielaurel(136), DaveC(140), Jirin(136/147), maverick470(113/122)



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114. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell
Score: 836 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 54 (438 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 70
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 67

Highest rank: DaveC(17)
Not Fans: JamieW(140)



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113. At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
Score: 838.5 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#17 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 63 (497 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 92
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Nassim(7)
Not Fans: KingofTonga(138/141), LiveinPhoenix(68/68)



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112. Gnarls Barkley - St. Elsewhere
Score: 840.9 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 98 (739 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 139
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 91

Highest rank: LiveinPhoenix(18)
Not Fans: whuntva(88/93)



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111. Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man - Out of Season
Score: 848.6 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#16 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 400 (2686 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 246
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: phil(23)
Not Fans: ChrisK(137)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Listyguy » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:20 pm

DaveC wrote:
116. Kanye West - 808s and Heartbreak
Score: 829.9 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 153 (1087 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 62
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Listyguy(9)
I guess none of the Kanye disciples voted in this poll?

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by StevieFan13 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:32 pm

Listyguy wrote:
DaveC wrote:
116. Kanye West - 808s and Heartbreak
Score: 829.9 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 153 (1087 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 62
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Listyguy(9)
I guess none of the Kanye disciples voted in this poll?
Higher than Graduation! Holy shit!
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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Nassim » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:46 pm

StevieFan13 wrote:
Listyguy wrote:
DaveC wrote:
116. Kanye West - 808s and Heartbreak
Score: 829.9 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 153 (1087 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 62
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Listyguy(9)
I guess none of the Kanye disciples voted in this poll?
Higher than Graduation! Holy shit!
I'm pretty sure with time Graduation will be considered the lesser Kanye album (at least from the College Dropout to Yeezus stretch) and it already shows here, and in the AM ranking (it stills ranks higher than 808s, but is falling steadily while 808s is growing fast.)
808s is, as you mentioned, a hugely influential album, it colors most of the hip-hop from 2010 to 2014. It often falters as an album I think, notably Robocop being one his worst songs ever and the next 6 ones being relatively forgettable. The opening salvo though, you can still feel the impact 10 years later, and that counts in critics lists.
Graduation might be more consistant, but it lacks highlights outside of Flashing Lights, and it showcases neither the reinvention that Yeezus or 808s are nor the peaks of Late Registration or MBDTF, so it gets lost in the shuffle.

Regarding the low performance of both, I would not count Late Registration and College Dropout out too fast. The mechanic of the voting doesn't favor exactly the same albums as in the all time lists (where albums from the 2000s by people who like recent music more are favored, as they are more likely to get high in lists, and where the fact that some people might not enjoy them at all doesn't factor) but that should not be enough to impact them too much.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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110. The Wrens - The Meadowlands
Score: 849.2 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 131 (946 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 73
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 72

Highest rank: DepecheMode(9)
Lowest rank: BleuPanda(127)



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109. Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna
Score: 850.7 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 294 (2004 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 392
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: DepecheMode(20)
Lowest rank: BleuPanda(132)

DepecheMode: Wild ride. Yet to really explore this cause I’m in mood for calmer music these days, but from the couple listens it seems there is so much.



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108. Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One (4th World War)
Score: 851.4 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 186 (1283 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 237
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Jirin(8)
Not Fans: DaveC(141)



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107. The Killers - Hot Fuss
Score: 851.8 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 118 (889 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 56
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: JamieW(9), maverick470(3)
Not Fans: BangJan(140/145), BleuPanda(141), Brad(145), Gillingham(74/74), Jirin(135/147), Nassim(139), sonofsamiam(138)



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106. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz!
Score: 853.3 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 97 (735 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 94
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 88

Highest rank: luvulongTIM(21)
Lowest rank: BangJan(122/145)



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105. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
Score: 854.7 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 65 (515 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 106
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 94

Highest rank: phil(14)
Not Fans: DepecheMode(67/68), JamieW(149), Nassim(137), Toni(106/117), whuntva(92/93)

DepecheMode: To me, music comes first, then the lyrics. If music is uniteresting, I tend to switch off and literally not know what the lyrics are. Much of the positive reaction to this album is cause of the lyrics, and I’ll believe that they are touching and personal, but my reaction is mostly that I guys voice is annoying and arrangements are probably the blandest they could be.



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104. My Morning Jacket - Z
Score: 855.1 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 84 (668 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 109
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 75

Fans: BleuPanda(13), Brad(11)
Not Fans: DepecheMode(65/68), LiveinPhoenix(66/68), spiritualized(100/109)



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103. Ghostface Killah - Fishscale
Score: 857.2 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 111 (861 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 117
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 71

Fans: sonofsamiam(15), Toni(6)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(150), ChrisK(139), phil(109/114)



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102. Coldplay - Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends
Score: 857.3 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 133 (961 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 97
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Henry(6)
Not Fans: BangJan(131/145), BleuPanda(136), Brad(139), DepecheMode(68/68), Jirin(142/147), rumpdoll(150), sonofsamiam(140)

DepecheMode: Coldplay experiments – result is the blandest experiment in music history.



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101. Wilco - A Ghost is Born
Score: 858.8 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#15 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 107 (841 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 191
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 96

Fans: Jirin(12)
Not Fans: whuntva(86/93)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by andyd1010 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:18 pm

DaveC wrote: 105. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
Score: 854.7 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 65 (515 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 106
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 94

Highest rank: phil(14)
Not Fans: DepecheMode(67/68), JamieW(149), Nassim(137), Toni(106/117), whuntva(92/93)

DepecheMode: To me, music comes first, then the lyrics. If music is uniteresting, I tend to switch off and literally not know what the lyrics are. Much of the positive reaction to this album is cause of the lyrics, and I’ll believe that they are touching and personal, but my reaction is mostly that I guys voice is annoying and arrangements are probably the blandest they could be.
Wow, three people ranked I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning second-to-last!! DepecheMode, I have the same approach, and there are plenty of works whose rankings I vehemently disagree with for the same reasons, but this is not one of them. Yes, he does not have the best voice, but he comes across as very sincere (I think the simple arrangements help this), and the songs are beautifully written. The lyrics certainly help, but the other aspects of the songwriting are outstanding, and I would have "switched off" before hearing the lyrics if I didn't think that were the case.

But like I said, I know where you're coming from - there are plenty of songs and albums by The Smiths, Tom Waits, Lou Reed, and many others for which I can acknowledge the quality of the lyrics while not enjoying the songs. I'm appreciating more and more of them as time goes on though, so maybe some of you will gain a little appreciation for this album at some point too (probably wishful thinking at those rankings).

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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100. Brian Wilson - SMiLE
Score: 862.8 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 71 (552 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 129
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 38

Highest rank: spiritualized(13)
Not Fans: KingofTonga(134/141), Nassim(144)



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99. MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
Score: 863.1 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 53 (436 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 38
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 56

Fans: whuntva(4)
Not Fans: Gillingham(67/74), Toni(114/117)



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98. Super Furry Animals - Rings Around the World
Score: 866.3 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 162 (1167 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 101
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 34

Fans: Brad(8), ChrisK(9)
Not Fans: KingofTonga(131/141)



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97. Agalloch - The Mantle
Score: 866.4 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#15 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: Unacclaimed
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 202
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: BangJan(7)
Not Fans: andyd1010(109/119), BleuPanda(142), ChrisK(136), rumpdoll(142)

DaveC: Second highest ranked album unacclaimed on AM.

DepecheMode: Album is kind in the shadow of, duh, „In the Shadow of Our Pale Companion”, but it’s a very nice atmospheric record overall.

Listyguy: Fantastic instrumentals throughout, the one issue that I had with it was the "metal" vocals (which sounded way too demonic for my tastes). Without that this album probably ends up in my top 20 instead of #33.



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96. Sunn O))) - Monoliths and Dimensions
Score: 867.4 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 309 (2081 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 351
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: JamieW(15), sonofsamiam(3)
Not Fans: DaveC(150), Listyguy(141), Nassim(136), phil(104/114), Toni(117/117)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Depeche Mode » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:21 pm

andyd1010 wrote:
DaveC wrote: 105. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning
Score: 854.7 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 65 (515 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 106
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 94

Highest rank: phil(14)
Not Fans: DepecheMode(67/68), JamieW(149), Nassim(137), Toni(106/117), whuntva(92/93)

DepecheMode: To me, music comes first, then the lyrics. If music is uniteresting, I tend to switch off and literally not know what the lyrics are. Much of the positive reaction to this album is cause of the lyrics, and I’ll believe that they are touching and personal, but my reaction is mostly that I guys voice is annoying and arrangements are probably the blandest they could be.
Wow, three people ranked I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning second-to-last!! DepecheMode, I have the same approach, and there are plenty of works whose rankings I vehemently disagree with for the same reasons, but this is not one of them. Yes, he does not have the best voice, but he comes across as very sincere (I think the simple arrangements help this), and the songs are beautifully written. The lyrics certainly help, but the other aspects of the songwriting are outstanding, and I would have "switched off" before hearing the lyrics if I didn't think that were the case.

But like I said, I know where you're coming from - there are plenty of songs and albums by The Smiths, Tom Waits, Lou Reed, and many others for which I can acknowledge the quality of the lyrics while not enjoying the songs. I'm appreciating more and more of them as time goes on though, so maybe some of you will gain a little appreciation for this album at some point too (probably wishful thinking at those rankings).
Thanks for the input. That was somewhat knee-jerk reaction from me and maybe I should give the album second chance. But these kinds of arrangements are really not my thing recently.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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95. Florence and the Machine - Lungs
Score: 867.8 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 214 (1434 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 111
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: bonnielaurel(13), Henry(12), whuntva(9)
Not Fans: luvulongTIM(48/53), phil(103/114)



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94. OutKast - Speakerboxxx / The Love Below
Score: 868.5 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 33 (283 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 40
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 22

Highest rank: Toni(19)
Not Fans: andyd1010(112/119)



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93. Scott Walker - The Drift
Score: 870.1 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#15 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 161 (1157 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 288
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: BangJan(2)
Not Fans: DaveC(149), Nassim(145), spiritualized(101/109), Toni(112/117)



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92. Queens of the Stone Age - Rated R
Score: 875.5 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#15 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 109 (850 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 78
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Nassim(13), spiritualized(8)
Not Fans: JamieW(136), Jirin(140/147)



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91. Johnny Cash - American III: Solitary Man
Score: 878.8 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#16 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 115 (880 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 185
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Listyguy(7)
Not Fans: ChrisK(140), Henry(147)

Listyguy: My favorite entry in the "American" series, Cash gets pretty dark at points. Not every cover is spectacular, but plenty of them are.

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90. The National - Alligator
Score: 879.5 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 78 (638 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 65
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 55

Fans: KingofTonga(8)
Not Fans: whuntva(85/93)



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89. The Cure - Bloodflowers
Score: 885.9 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#18 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: Bubbling (Bubbling all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 222
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: JamieW(4)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(146), Nassim(141)



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88. Johnny Cash - American IV: The Man Comes Around
Score: 886.6 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#12 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 130 (945 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 255
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Jirin(13), spiritualized(9)
Not Fans: Henry(145), maverick470(111/122)



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87. Jay-Z - The Black Album
Score: 886.8 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#12 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 74 (600 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 90
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: LiveinPhoenix(12)
Lowest rank: DaveC(129)

DepecheMode: Not much of a lyrics guy, this might be my favorite rap album because I love Jay-Z’s voice and the production, it’s very catchy and varied and superbly produced. My 1st Song is hands down the Jay-Z song.



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86. Fuck Buttons - Tarot Sport
Score: 888.9 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 110 (852 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 250
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Nassim(11), rumpdoll(13)
Not Fans: DaveC(138)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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85. Modest Mouse - The Moon and Antarctica
Score: 892.7 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#13 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 52 (431 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 59
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 74

Fans: Nassim(8)
Lowest rank: BangJan(123/145)



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84. Morrissey - You Are the Quarry
Score: 896.3 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#13 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 147 (1043 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 145
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Brad(7), Henry(14)
Not Fans: LiveinPhoenix(64/68)



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83. The Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat
Score: 898.4 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#12 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 245 (1709 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 236
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: BangJan(3), Brad(15), sonofsamiam(11)
Not Fans: KingofTonga(139/141), Toni(109/117)



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82. Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid
Score: 900.4 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 86 (676 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 142
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: Brad(16)
Not Fans: Nassim(138)



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81. Madvillain - Madvillainy
Score: 901.4 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 46 (396 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 41
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: BleuPanda(11), sonofsamiam(4)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(141), DaveC(143), Listyguy(142), spiritualized(102/109)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Nassim » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:08 pm

I don't get the (relative) lack of love from the forum for The Moon & Antarctica, but it really doesn't bode well for The Lonesome Crowded West which is way less welcoming and not as consistant (plus with 1997 being that stacked, even being in my top 30 of all time it's just my 5th favorite of the year, so even I won't give it that many points).

Also never really got why Madvillainy is more acclaimed than some MF DOOM solo albums, or than Dangerdoom, though I would agree it's a pretty adventurous album.

There's one album I expected to end up pretty low and that still haven't showed up. As strange as it might seem, I will be both a hater and happy it does quite well : while some albums on the bottom of my list I find pretty bad or just boring/self indulgent, this one I just can't connect with but suspects I will someday do, and is at the very least an oddity that seems miles away from the usual albums acclaimed around here.
Alternatively there is another album from the bottom of my list that hasn't shown up that has always been a huge disappointment as it should be right up my alley but sounds completely underwhelming (except from the one song where the turned the power on).

Ok, I'm done being cryptic !

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Depeche Mode » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:22 pm

Yeah one really big surprise for me(top 80 feels like a high placement although if it was with old top 100 format it wouldn't seem). And... it's a good one!

Also Muse being all in it still is pretty shocking to me, when compared to other pop rock albums that got in but struggled to get to top 100.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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80. Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!
Score: 901.6 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 157 (1141 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 311
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 86

Highest rank: Brad(24)
Not Fans: whuntva(90/93)



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79. Robyn - Robyn
Score: 907.5 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#16 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 159 (1154 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 150
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: luvulongTIM(6)
Not Fans: maverick470(121/122)



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78. Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
Score: 911.7 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#14 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 112 (863 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 104
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: DepecheMode(14)
Lowest rank: BleuPanda(109)



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77. Interpol - Antics
Score: 914.5 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#16 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 163 (1176 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 110
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: DaveC(3), DepecheMode(4)
Not Fans: sonofsamiam(146)

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76. J Dilla - Donuts
Score: 918 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 75 (606 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 54
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: sonofsamiam(1), Toni(9)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(146), Jirin(143/147), maverick470(112/122), Nassim(140)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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75. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come for Free
Score: 923.4 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 73 (583 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 108
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 68

Fans: rumpdoll(6)
Not Fans: andyd1010(119/119), BangJan(135/145), bonnielaurel(139), DaveC(147), Jirin(138/147), Listyguy(139)



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74. Muse - Black Holes and Revelations
Score: 926.3 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 242 (1680 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 47
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: andyd1010(7), Henry(15)
Not Fans: BangJan(139/145), Jirin(145/147), Nassim(148), rumpdoll(137), sonofsamiam(143)



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73. Bat for Lashes - Two Suns
Score: 927.3 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 234 (1626 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 205
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 100

Fans: Henry(7), JamieW(7)
Not Fans: rumpdoll(139)



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72. The Good, the Bad and the Queen - The Good, the Bad and the Queen
Score: 930.1 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#15 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 208 (1416 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 214
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: rumpdoll(14)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(145)



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71. Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest
Score: 932.9 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 49 (410 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 67
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 70

Highest rank: DepecheMode(13)
Not Fans: Toni(110/117)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Nick » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:59 pm

Nassim wrote:
There's one album I expected to end up pretty low and that still haven't showed up. As strange as it might seem, I will be both a hater and happy it does quite well : while some albums on the bottom of my list I find pretty bad or just boring/self indulgent, this one I just can't connect with but suspects I will someday do, and is at the very least an oddity that seems miles away from the usual albums acclaimed around here.
Alternatively there is another album from the bottom of my list that hasn't shown up that has always been a huge disappointment as it should be right up my alley but sounds completely underwhelming (except from the one song where the turned the power on).

Ok, I'm done being cryptic !
Given your penchant for hard rocking music (I seem to recall you love QOTSA), I'm guessing one of these albums is the Muse album that just appeared?

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by jamieW » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:33 pm

Nick wrote:
Nassim wrote:
There's one album I expected to end up pretty low and that still haven't showed up. As strange as it might seem, I will be both a hater and happy it does quite well : while some albums on the bottom of my list I find pretty bad or just boring/self indulgent, this one I just can't connect with but suspects I will someday do, and is at the very least an oddity that seems miles away from the usual albums acclaimed around here.
Alternatively there is another album from the bottom of my list that hasn't shown up that has always been a huge disappointment as it should be right up my alley but sounds completely underwhelming (except from the one song where the turned the power on).

Ok, I'm done being cryptic !
Given your penchant for hard rocking music (I seem to recall you love QOTSA), I'm guessing one of these albums is the Muse album that just appeared?
I'm guessing the one he doesn't connect with but is happy it did well is "Donuts."

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Nassim » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:58 pm

jamieW wrote:
Nick wrote:
Given your penchant for hard rocking music (I seem to recall you love QOTSA), I'm guessing one of these albums is the Muse album that just appeared?
I'm guessing the one he doesn't connect with but is happy it did well is "Donuts."
Yes Jamie, no Nick!
Actually there was a subtle clue for the one I dislike, but no clue for Donuts so well done ;)

I do love QOTSA (and at the drive in) but I'd say they are the exception more than the rule.
That being said Black Holes and Revelations has been one of the biggest letdown of my life, I was a big Muse fan at the time and God that album sucks (though the Resistance is even worse). That being said the previous 2 albums hinted at what would go wrong. They are a band with a few very strong suits (their rhythmic section, a knack for finding cool arpeggios, great riffs) and some terrible weakness (pomposity, terrible use of strings, lame pseudo intellectual concepts) but somehow they increasingly underused what they are good at and put an emphasis on what sucks. I'd put that mostly on some Bellamy's ego issue.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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70. PJ Harvey - White Chalk
Score: 935 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 177 (1244 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 210
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: BangJan(10), sonofsamiam(12)
Not Fans: luvulongTIM(49/53), maverick470(119/122)



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69. Björk - Vespertine
Score: 935.9 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 51 (429 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 37
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 31

Fans: bonnielaurel(9)
Not Fans: DepecheMode(64/68)

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68. Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030
Score: 941.9 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#11 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: Bubbling
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 77
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Highest rank: Gillingham(9)
Not Fans: Brad(146)

DaveC: Highest ranked album that is bubbling on AM.


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67. Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
Score: 943.7 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 99 (747 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 69
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: BangJan(11), spiritualized(3)
Not Fans: Jirin(144/147), KingofTonga(136/141)



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66. The Decemberists - The Crane Wife
Score: 943.9 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 196 (1352 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 114
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 66

Fans: bonnielaurel(8), DaveC(12), phil(3)
Not Fans: ChrisK(146), sonofsamiam(144)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Jackson » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:25 pm

Deltron 3030 and The Sophtware Slump ahead of Vespertine is genuinely stunning.

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65. Belle and Sebastian - The Life Pursuit
Score: 954.5 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 204 (1394 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 82
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 43

Fans: Henry(13), luvulongTIM(1)
Not Fans: JamieW(147)



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64. Sigur Rós - Takk…
Score: 960.7 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#14 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 132 (950 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 112
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: DaveC(11), luvulongTIM(2)
Not Fans: maverick470(118/122), Toni(107/117)



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63. Belle and Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe Waitress
Score: 962.8 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 225 (1513 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 161
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 73

Fans: phil(8), Toni(8)
Not Fans: BleuPanda(137)



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62. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
Score: 968.1 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 11 (136 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 48
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 32

Fans: sonofsamiam(8), whuntva(6)
Not Fans: Henry(137)



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61. Elliott Smith - Figure 8
Score: 968.3 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#14 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 126 (930 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 175
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: andyd1010(10), phil(4)
Lowest rank: Jirin(110/147)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Henrik » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:07 am

Jackson wrote:Deltron 3030 and The Sophtware Slump ahead of Vespertine is genuinely stunning.
Well, it wouldn't have happened if I had voted, as Vespertine would have competed with Illinois about my #1 spot.
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60. Elliott Smith - From a Basement on the Hill
Score: 968.8 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#14 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 135 (979 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 144
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 63

Fans: Brad(2)
Lowest rank: maverick470(100/122)



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59. Four Tet - Rounds
Score: 973.6 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 108 (843 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 91
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Gillingham(6), JamieW(10)
Not Fans: Henry(136)



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58. The Go! Team - Thunder, Lightning, Strike
Score: 974.2 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 231 (1601 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 121
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 57

Fans: Brad(3), rumpdoll(1)
Not Fans: Listyguy(140), Nassim(146)



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57. Sufjan Stevens - Michigan
Score: 975.6 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 178 (1254 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 95
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 54

Highest rank: phil(19)
Lowest rank: Toni(102/117)



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56. The Decemberists - Picaresque
Score: 979 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#10 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 185 (1277 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 98
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: bonnielaurel(14), DaveC(5), JamieW(14), phil(2), spiritualized(10)
Not Fans: KingofTonga(133/141), Toni(116/117)



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55. Coldplay - Parachutes
Score: 979.4 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 67 (527 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 45
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 81

Highest rank: phil(12)
Not Fans: Brad(141), rumpdoll(149)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Jirin » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:25 pm

I’m shocked Dear Catastrophe Waitress landed higher than Life Pursuit. IMO the first two thirds of LP are some of the most hummable songs of the decade and DCW is just stuck between identities.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by andyd1010 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:08 pm

Jirin wrote:I’m shocked Dear Catastrophe Waitress landed higher than Life Pursuit. IMO the first two thirds of LP are some of the most hummable songs of the decade and DCW is just stuck between identities.
I agree, and I’m similarly surprised about From a Basement on a Hill landing above Figure 8. Elliott Smith has a lot of great albums, and Figure 8 is still my favorite by a mile. I’m assuming in both cases it again comes down to me valuing melodies more than most people.

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54. Fever Ray - Fever Ray
Score: 981.5 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 76 (621 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 89
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 48

Fans: Nassim(9), rumpdoll(12)
Not Fans: andyd1010(117/119), maverick470(115/122)



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53. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
Score: 986.1 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 15 (173 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 34
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 41

Fans: whuntva(5)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(149), Gillingham(71/74), Henry(142), Listyguy(145)



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52. Burial - Untrue
Score: 996.2 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 13 (166 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 46
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 61

Fans: DepecheMode(5), sonofsamiam(5)
Not Fans: andyd1010(115/119), Henry(144), Listyguy(144), Toni(113/117)

DepecheMode: I went like 9 years knowing who Burial was and checking out his tracks but not listening to this album, for reasons known to no one. Finally checked it out and yeah I love it. Especially the second half which goes full eerie dreamy sound is wonderful. „Homeless” is one of the most uplifting tracks I’ve heard, quite ironic.



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51. Muse - Absolution
Score: 998.5 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 233 (1618 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 60
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: andyd1010(9), bonnielaurel(7), DaveC(6), spiritualized(6)
Not Fans: BangJan(138/145), Brad(137), Jirin(146/147), KingofTonga(135/141), rumpdoll(136), sonofsamiam(150)

DepecheMode: Surpringly, I do not mind these grandoise Muse records as much as I thought, or in fact at all. For the longest time I thought why listen to them when I have the real thing – Radiohead. But once I know every missed cut from them there is no reason to not try Muse. Might have liked this even more in my peak Radiohead listening days.

DaveC: Polarising as always. 'Absolution' unexpectedly beaten by 'Origin of Symmetry'.

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50. Muse - Origin of Symmetry
Score: 1000.7 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 169 (1199 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 72
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: bonnielaurel(2), Henry(3), phil(7)
Not Fans: BangJan(137/145), Brad(138), Gillingham(70/74), KingofTonga(128/141), rumpdoll(138), sonofsamiam(148)

DepecheMode: Turns out these two albums from Muse are pretty solid. Varied, melodic, energetic, slightly too theatrical but with enough meat to back it up.



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49. Sleater-Kinney - The Woods
Score: 1008.6 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 101 (779 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 88
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 52

Highest rank: luvulongTIM(14)
Not Fans: Henry(149), spiritualized(106/109), Toni(111/117)



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48. TV on the Radio - Return to Cookie Mountain
Score: 1015.9 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 40 (336 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 51
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 27

Highest rank: Gillingham(8)
Not Fans: Henry(141), phil(111/114)



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47. Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
Score: 1017 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 9 (115 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 20
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 62

Fans: bonnielaurel(1), Henry(9)
Lowest rank: Nassim(111)

DepecheMode: Surprisingly solid, not sure why I never liked her before this poll, „Rehab” especially sounds powerful today.



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46. Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
Score: 1021 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 19 (212 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 24
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 36

Highest rank: luvulongTIM(15)
Not Fans: Gillingham(72/74), sonofsamiam(137)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Listyguy » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:40 pm

Oh shit, another surprise Sleater-Kinney result! The Woods is 0-for-2 in these recent polls now.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:46 am

A couple in this group that are showing up earlier than expected.


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45. Low - Things We Lost in the Fire
Score: 1021.4 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#12 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 205 (1395 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 75
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: DaveC(9), Gillingham(2), Nassim(12), spiritualized(7)
Not Fans: Jirin(134/147), luvulongTIM(53/53)

DepecheMode: One of my better discoveries. The only issue is that arrangements sometimes drift to generic indie-folk 101, and it’s disappointing. But there is a lot of powerful emotion and slow-burning atmosphere throughout to compensate.



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44. Daft Punk - Discovery
Score: 1021.7 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 20 (223 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 14
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 15

Fans: BleuPanda(8)
Not Fans: DaveC(139), phil(107/114)



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43. Sleater-Kinney - One Beat
Score: 1022.3 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 210 (1420 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 68
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 44

Fans: BangJan(9), Jirin(5), luvulongTIM(3), sonofsamiam(13)
Not Fans: ChrisK(143), Henry(139)



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42. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
Score: 1041.6 pts
Year of Release: 2008 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 35 (307 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 29
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 14

Fans: luvulongTIM(5), maverick470(7), Toni(1)
Not Fans: JamieW(142), phil(105/114)



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41. Primal Scream - XTRMNTR
Score: 1043.7 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#9 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 69 (544 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 87
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 45

Fans: BangJan(6), luvulongTIM(4), rumpdoll(5), sonofsamiam(6)
Not Fans: andyd1010(110/119), KingofTonga(130/141), Listyguy(146), maverick470(114/122)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by Toni » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:42 pm

There is one album I’m shocked that hasn’t appeared yet.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:54 pm

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40. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
Score: 1046.6 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 16 (180 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 13
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 28

Fans: BleuPanda(9), ChrisK(13)
Not Fans: JamieW(150), KingofTonga(132/141)

DepecheMode: Not heard anything quite like it yet, it’s almost uncomfortably sweet and lush and kinda alien at the same time. One has to be in the mood but I still dig it very much.



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39. Radiohead - Hail to the Thief
Score: 1055 pts
Year of Release: 2003 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 64 (504 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 22
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 42

Fans: Brad(6), DepecheMode(6), Listyguy(15), rumpdoll(15)
Not Fans: luvulongTIM(50/53)



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38. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
Score: 1059.7 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 41 (340 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 18
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 24

Fans: Gillingham(7), Toni(3)
Lowest rank: Jirin(119/147)



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37. Kashiwa Daisuke - Program Music I
Score: 1064.6 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: Unacclaimed
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 120
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: Brad(4), JamieW(1), sonofsamiam(2)
Not Fans: ChrisK(141)

DaveC: Highest ranked album unacclaimed on AM.



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36. Green Day - American Idiot
Score: 1066.2 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 56 (444 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 28
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: andyd1010(2), Henry(4), maverick470(10), spiritualized(2), whuntva(2)
Not Fans: BangJan(145/145), Brad(148), ChrisK(150)

DepecheMode: Kinda dreaded this listen, but I found it rather enjoyable. Certainly a more musically interesting record than say, Ramones. I don’t care about the concept but I enjoyed the progressive song construction for the most part.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by andyd1010 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:44 am

Haha, 3 second-place votes and 2 last-place votes for American Idiot. Another acclaimed radio-friendly rock album that turns out to be very polarizing here, although I'm pleasantly surprised by this finish.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:15 pm

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35. Gorillaz - Demon Days
Score: 1066.6 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 95 (730 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 26
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 47

Fans: JamieW(8), rumpdoll(9)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(137), Henry(138)



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34. Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - Abattoir Blues / The Lyre of Orpheus
Score: 1074.6 pts
Year of Release: 2004 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 94 (725 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 58
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 37

Fans: BangJan(4), Jirin(10)
Not Fans: Henry(143), maverick470(110/122)



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33. M.I.A. - Kala
Score: 1075.5 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 24 (242 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 50
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 23

Fans: bonnielaurel(15), Jirin(3), Toni(4)
Not Fans: Listyguy(138)

DepecheMode: Blast to listen to. I do love when rap songs constantly build like Bangoo Bang. Jimmy is the greatest ABBA song I know. I can’t help but find Paper Planes overrated even more because there are many better tracks here.



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32. Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
Score: 1077.2 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 22 (236 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 39
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 35

Fans: Listyguy(4), Toni(10)
Not Fans: rumpdoll(141)

Listyguy: Some of the best singer-songwriter music since the heyday of Dylan, Mitchell, and Cohen



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31. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem
Score: 1082.2 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 43 (372 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 57
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 53

Fans: rumpdoll(3)
Lowest rank: Brad(129)

DepecheMode: I want to like this a bit more than I do, for James Murphy is obviously a smart guy and there is a point to this albums structure. But I find myself wishing to fast forward on a couple of tracks, a bit too many to really say I like this album as a whole. Losing My Edge is stone-cold classic ofc, rapping about Internet seekers and RYM-core artists in 2002, hats off.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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30. Kanye West - Late Registration
Score: 1090.7 pts
Year of Release: 2005 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 44 (377 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 30
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 30

Highest rank: LiveinPhoenix(8)
Not Fans: bonnielaurel(140)



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29. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
Score: 1095 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 12 (139 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 12
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 60

Fans: BleuPanda(10), Nassim(10)
Not Fans: sonofsamiam(145)



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28. The xx - xx
Score: 1098.9 pts
Year of Release: 2009 (#1 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 18 (211 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 36
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 25

Fans: BleuPanda(7), JamieW(5), Listyguy(6), Nassim(15)
Lowest rank: Jirin(121/147)



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27. The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
Score: 1105.9 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 27 (251 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 17
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 9

Fans: ChrisK(10), Henry(10), KingofTonga(12)
Not Fans: Gillingham(68/74)



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26. Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
Score: 1106.1 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 55 (443 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 25
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 49

Fans: andyd1010(4), DaveC(10), JamieW(3)
Lowest rank: Jirin(125/147)

DepecheMode: Slightly more lean than baroque Funeral, still very overwrought at times but overall enjoyable.

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

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25. Beck - Sea Change
Score: 1121.9 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#8 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 42 (344 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 35
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 10

Fans: ChrisK(2), KingofTonga(13), Listyguy(12)
Not Fans: spiritualized(104/109)



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24. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells
Score: 1121.9 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 14 (170 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 11
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 11

Fans: Jirin(9)
Lowest rank: bonnielaurel(96)

DepecheMode: Turns out I like White Stripes quite a bit. Used to mind Jack White’s voice but now I don’t. Best track is „Offend in Every Way”, with that beautiful riff and lyrics that could not fit White’s persona better.



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23. Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head
Score: 1141.1 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 38 (326 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 10
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 39

Fans: andyd1010(3), bonnielaurel(11), ChrisK(7), Henry(2), maverick470(2), whuntva(3)
Not Fans: Brad(142), rumpdoll(148)

DepecheMode: Coldplay were indeed one of my favorite bands while I was getting into music, and „Clocks” was one of my favorite songs. I don’t find them terribly interesting anymore, but there are plenty of good songs on their first three albums.



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22. OutKast - Stankonia
Score: 1142.4 pts
Year of Release: 2000 (#2 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 10 (121 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 21
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 12

Fans: rumpdoll(11), sonofsamiam(7), whuntva(7)
Not Fans: spiritualized(109/109)



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21. The National - Boxer
Score: 1148.5 pts
Year of Release: 2007 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 37 (321 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 32
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 20

Fans: andyd1010(8), DaveC(13), Jirin(4), KingofTonga(4)
Lowest rank: Brad(124)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by DaveC » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:51 am

This has been dragging on a bit, so I'll skip having a 'guess the top 20' contest. Especially as the result would probably be about placing one particular album in or near the top 10 - rather than in the next group where you might expect it. Never-the-less the next 5 albums have all improved their performance from the last 2000s poll, some by a considerable margin. Furthermore, each of these albums has performed better in this poll than in it's respective year poll.....





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20. Radiohead - Amnesiac
Score: 1158.6 pts
Year of Release: 2001 (#4 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 58 (452 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 23
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 40

Fans: BangJan(14)
Not Fans: whuntva(89/93)



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19. Sigur Rós - ()
Score: 1166.7 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#7 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 66 (516 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 52
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: Not top 100

Fans: bonnielaurel(5), DaveC(1), Gillingham(4), JamieW(13), spiritualized(4)
Lowest rank: maverick470(108/122)



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18. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
Score: 1177.9 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#5 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 25 (243 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 16
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 26

Fans: andyd1010(11), ChrisK(14), DaveC(8), JamieW(11)
Not Fans: LiveinPhoenix(67/68)



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17. Joanna Newsom - Ys
Score: 1184.6 pts
Year of Release: 2006 (#6 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 32 (279 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 42
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 69

Fans: bonnielaurel(4), Jirin(6), LiveinPhoenix(1), phil(11), sonofsamiam(10)
Lowest rank: Henry(133)



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16. Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
Score: 1187.2 pts
Year of Release: 2002 (#3 in year poll)
AM 2000s albums rank: 26 (249 all-time)
AMF 2017 All-time poll 2000s rank: 31
AMF 2011 2000s poll rank: 19

Fans: BangJan(12), DaveC(7), Listyguy(14), Nassim(1), spiritualized(5)
Not Fans: Jirin(139/147), KingofTonga(129/141), luvulongTIM(51/53)

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Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Post by luvulongTIM » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:49 am

I liked the Queens album actually. You want to talk about an album I’m NOT a fan of go up a notch. Not worthy of even being ranked. When she plays the harp I think of Morticia Adams doing her high pitched “Tokyo” squealing bit in the Addams Family. That and when she “sings” I think of the sound that the bird makes from Alice in Wonderland when the Queen rings their neck when they’re about to play polo with it.
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