Women in Music All-Time Lists - Planning (submissions begin November 1)

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Post by Henry » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:14 am

Songs

1. Aretha Franklin / Respect
2. Bonnie Raitt / I Can't Make You Love Me
3. Pretenders / Show Me
4. Carly Simon / The Right Thing To Do
5. Linda Ronstadt / When Will I Be Loved
6. Carole King / It's Too Late
7. The Supremes / You can't hurry love
8. Carole King / I Feel The Earth Move
9. Sarah McLachlan / Building a Mystery
10. Carly Simon / Legend In Your Own Time
11. Linda Ronstadt / Heat Wave
12. The Supremes / My World Is Empty Without You
13. Pat Benatar / Hit Me With Your Best Shot
14. Martha Reeves & The Vandellas / Dancing In The Street
15. The Supremes / You Keep Me Hangin On
16. Blondie / Heart of Glass
17. Linda Ronstadt / You're No Good
18. Sister Sledge / We Are Family
19. Carly Simon / You're So Vain
20. Linda Ronstadt / Alison
21. Carly Simon / Anticipation
22. The Supremes / Back in My Arms Again
23. Anita Baker / Caught Up In The Rapture
24. Alanis Morissette / Head Over Feet
25. Pat Benatar / Heartbreaker
26. Linda Ronstadt / It's So Easy
27. Fleetwood Mac / Landslide
28. The Supremes / Love Is Here And Now You're Gone
29. Heart / Magic Man
30. Janis Joplin/Big Brother and The Holding Company / Move Over
31. The Supremes / Nothing but heartaches
32. Cranberries / Dreams
33. Aretha Franklin / Since You've Been Gone
34. Sheryl Crow / Soak Up The Sun
35. Linda Ronstadt / Someone To Lay Down Beside Me
36. Linda Ronstadt / That'll Be The Day
37. Carly Simon / That's The Way I've Always Heard It Should Be
38. Barbra Streisand / The Way We Were
39. Heart / These Dreams
40. The Supremes / I Hear a Symphony
41. The Pointer Sisters / I'm So Excited
42. The Supremes / Someday We'll Be Together
43. Anita Baker / Sweet Love
44. Janet Jackson / When I Think of You
45. Beyonce / Irreplaceable
46. Staple Singers / I'll Take You There
47. Blondie / One Way Or Another
48. Madonna / Holiday
49. Joni Mitchell / Help Me
50. The Supremes / Baby Love

51. Blondie / Call Me
52. Aretha Franklin / (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman
53. Martha Reeves & The Vandellas / Heatwave
54. Madonna / Borderline
55. Tina Turner / What's Love Got To Do With It
56. Mary Wells / My Guy
57. Janis Joplin / Me & Bobby McGee
58. Aretha Franklin / Chain Of Fools
59. Eurythmics / Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
60. Pretenders / Brass In Pocket
61. Patsy Cline / Crazy
62. Aretha Franklin / (Sweet Sweet Baby) Since You've Been Gone
63. Carole King / Beautiful
64. The Supremes / Come See About Me
65. Linda Ronstadt / Desperado
66. The Stone Poneys / Different Drum
67. Blondie / The Tide Is High
68. Linda Ronstadt / Hurt So Bad
69. Heart / Never
70. Cowboy Junkies / Musical Key
71. The Supremes / Reflections
72. The Supremes / The Happening
73. Linda Ronstadt / Tracks Of My Tears
74. Heart / What About Love
75. Anita Baker / You Bring Me Joy
76. Janelle Monae / Cold War
77. Barbra Streisand / Evergreen
78. Linda Ronstadt / Love Has No Pride
79. Linda Ronstadt / Ooh Baby Baby
80. Carole King / Smackwater Jack
81. Joan Baez / The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
82. Carole King / Way Over Yonder
83. Whitney Houston / Where Do broken Hearts Go
84. Carole King / Where You Lead
85. Whitney Houston / You're Still My Man
86. The Supremes / I'm Livin' in Shame
87. Alanis Morissette / Ironic
88. The Ozark Mountain Daredevils / Jackie Blue
89. Janis Ian / Society's Child (Baby I've Been Thinking)
90. Aretha Franklin / Don't Play That Song
91. Pretenders / Talk of the Town
92. Heart / Crazy On You
93. No Doubt / Don't Speak
94. Janis Joplin / Piece Of My Heart
95. Madonna / Papa Don't Preach
96. Patti LaBelle / Lady Marmalade
97. Aretha Franklin / Think
98. Pretenders / Back on the Chain Gang
99. Alanis Morissette / You Oughta Know
100. Tracy Chapman / Fast Car

101. Patti Smith / Because The Night
102. Gloria Gaynor / I Will Survive
103. The Supremes / Where Did Our Love Go
104. Gladys Knight and The Pips / Midnight Train To Georgia
105. ABBA Dancing Queen
106. Sinead O'Connor / Nothing Compares 2 U
107. Ronettes / Be My Baby
108. Berlin / Take My Breath Away
109. Aretha Franklin / Baby I Love You
110. Diana Ross / Ain't No Mountain High Enough
111. Cranberries / Linger
112. Janis Joplin / Cry Baby
113. Judy Garland / Over the Rainbow
114. Shirley & Lee / Let The Good Times Roll
115. Shirelles / Will You Love Me Tomorrow
116. Etta James / At Last
117. Chiffons / He's So Fine
118. Doris Troy / Just One Look
119. Dusty Springfield / I Only Want to Be with You
120. Shirley Ellis / The Name Game
121. Whitney Houston / Saving All My Love for You
122. Whitney Houston / Didn't We Almost Have It All
123. Whitney Houston / For The Love of You
124. Whitney Houston / Run to You
125. Whitney Houston / I Will Always Love You
126. Linda Ronstadt / Just One Look
127. Whitney Houston / The Greatest Love of All
128. Linda Ronstadt / Blue Bayou
129. Whitney Houston / Just the Lonely Talking
130. Mamas & The Papas / Dedicated To The One I Love
131. Linda Ronstadt / All That You Dream
132. Gladys Knight and The Pips / I Heard It Through the Grapevine
133. Lee Ann Womack I Hope You Dance
134. Whitney Houston / So Emotional
135. Linda Ronstadt / Long Long Time
136. Linda Ronstadt / Poor Poor Pitiful Me
137. Bobbie Gentry / Ode To Billie Joe
138. Jefferson Airplane / White Rabbit
139. Linda Ronstadt / White Rhythm & Blues
140. Dionne Warwick / Do You Know the Way to San Jose
141. Garbage / Bleed Like Me
142. The Supremes / Love Child
143. Pretenders / Message of Love
144. Joni Mitchell / Both Sides Now
145. Martha Reeves & The Vandellas / Jimmy Mack
146. Dionne Warwick / Heartbreaker
147. Carole King / Nightingale
148. Carole King / You've Got A Friend
149. Linda Ronstadt / I Can't Let Go
150. Linda Ronstadt / Back in the USA

151. Pointer Sisters / Jump (For My Love)
152. Pat Benatar / Fire and Ice
153. The Pointer Sisters / He's So Shy
154. The Pointer Sisters / Slow Hand
155. Go-Go's / Our Lips are Sealed
156. Carly Simon / (We Have) No Secrets
157. Nicolette Larson / Lotta Love
158. Linda Ronstadt / How Do I Make You
159. Pat Benatar / Love Is a Battlefield
160. Cyndi Lauper / Time After Time
161. Madonna / Lucky Star
162. Pretenders / Middle Of The Road
163. Carole King / It's Going To Take Some Time
164. Carole King / Brother, Brother
165. Cyndi Lauper / Girls Just Wanna Have Fun
166. Deniece Williams / Let's Hear It for the Boy
167. Linda Ronstadt / Love Me Tender
168. Sarah McLachlan / Adia
169. Cranberries / Animal Instinct
170. Sarah McLachlan / Black & White
171. Carole King / Jazzman
172. Cranberries / Just My Imagination
173. Cowboy Junkies / Something More Besides You
174. Madonna / Like a Virgin
175. Sade / Smooth Operator
176. Cranberries / Shattered
177. Crow, Sheryl / All I Wanna Do
178. Whitney Houston / Love Is A Contact Sport
179. Whitney Houston / I Have Nothing
180. Whitney Houston / How Will I Know
181. Whitney Houston / I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)
182. Cowboy Junkies / Hold On To Me
183. Madonna / Open Your Heart
184. Carole King / Goodbye Don't Mean I'm Gone
185. Sarah McLachlan / Do What You Have To Do
186. Carey, Mariah / Dreamlover
187. Alanis Morissette / Hand in My Pocket
188. Kelly Clarkson / Because Of You
189. Joan Armatrading / (I Love It When You) Call Me Names
190. Janis Joplin / Get It While You Can
191. Linda Ronstadt / Mohammed's Radio
192. Carly Simon / Haven't Got Time For The Pain
193. Mariah Carey / We Belong Together
194. Cranberries / Saving Grace
195. Anna Nalick / Breathe (2 AM)
196. Barbra Streisand / You Don't Bring Me Flowers
197. Anita Baker / Same Ole Love
198. Sarah McLachlan / Angel
199. Gloria Estefan / Anything For You
200. Pretenders / Thin Line Between Love And Hate

201. Crow, Sheryl / The First Cut is the Deepest
202. Sarah McLachlan / Fallen
203. Thomas, Carla / I Like What You're Doing (To Me)
204. The Emotions / Best of My Love
205. Wilson Phillips / Hold On
206. Lady Antebellum / Need You Now
207. Barbra Streisand / Stoney End
208. Paris Sisters / Love How You Love Me
209. Dido / White Flag
210. Blondie / Hanging On The Telephone
211. The Paris Sisters / I Love How You Love Me
212. Yvonne Elliman / If I Can't Have You
213. Gwen Stefani / The Sweet Escape
214. Peggy Lee / Fever
215. Mary Wells / You Beat Me to the Punch
216. Leslie Gore / It's My Party
217. Ruby and the Romantics / Our Day Will Come
218. Barbra Streisand / People
219. Petula Clark / Downtown
220. DeShannon, Jackie / What The World Needs Now Is Love
221. Martha Reeves & The Vandellas / Nowhere to Run
222. Marvelettes / Please Mr. Postman
223. Katy Perry / Hot N' Cold
224. The 5th Dimension / Up, Up & Away
225. Lulu / To Sir with Love
226. Wynette, Tammy / Stand By Your Man
227. Roberta Flack / The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face
228. Carpenters / Close to You
229. Joni Mitchell / Big Yellow Taxi
230. Yvonne Elliman / I Don't Know How to Love Him
231. Carole King / So Far Away
232. Carole King / Home Again
233. Carole King / (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman
234. Carpenters / Goodbye to Love
235. Gladys Knight and The Pips / Neither One of Us (Wants to Be the First to Say Goodbye)
236. Minnie Riperton / Lovin' You
237. Katrina and The Waves / Walking on Sunshine
238. Joni Mitchell / Free Man In Paris
239. Fleetwood Mac / Say You Love Me
240. Sarah Bettens / I'm Okay
241. Heart / Barracuda
242. Carly Simon / Nobody Does It Better
243. Fleetwood Mac / You Make Loving Fun
244. Blondie / Dreaming
245. Cyndi Lauper / All Through the Night
246. Madonna / Crazy For You
247. Gloria Estefan / Can't Stay Away from You
248. Beyonce / Crazy In Love
249. Madonna / Live To Tell
250. Madonna / True Blue

251. Suzann Vega / Luka
252. Madonna / La Isla Bonita
253. Madonna / Like A Prayer
254. Mariah Carey / Vision of Love
255. Madonna / Into the Groove
256. Mercy / Love Can Make You Happy
257. Tracy Chapman / Give Me One Reason
258. Shania Twain You're Still The One
259. No Doubt / It's My Life
260. Annie Lennox Walking On Broken Glass
261. Winehouse, Amy Rehab
262. Motels / Suddenly Last Summer
263. Madonna / Material Girl
264. Katy Perry / Teenage Dream
265. Carole King / Bitter With the Sweet
266. Madonna Cherish
267. King, Carole Been to Canaan
268. Joplin, Janis Down On Me
269. Warwick, Dionne I'll Never Love This Way Again
270. Carey, Mariah All I Want for Christmas Is You
271. McLachlan, Sarah I Will Remember You
272. King, Carole Sweet Seasons
273. Joan Armatrading Drop the Pilot
274. Fleetwood Mac Little Lies
275. McLachlan, Sarah Witness
276. Springfield, Dusty The Look of Love
277. Smith, Kate God Bless America
278. DeShannon, Jackie Put A Little Love In Your Heart
279. Chapman, Tracy If Not Now
280. Lana Del Rey West Coast
281. Holiday, Billie Strange Fruit
282. Horne, Lena Stormy Weather
283. Houston, Whitney Love Will Save the Day
284. Baker, Lavern Jim Dandy
285. Chantels Maybe
286. Shangri-Las Leader Of The Pack
287. The Marvelettes Don't Mess with Bill
288. Wright, Betty Clean Up Woman
289. Janis Ian At Seventeen
290. Heart Nothin' At All
291. Coolidge, Rita Higher and Higher
292. Blondie Will Anything Happen
293. Donna Summer Last Dance
294. Evelyn "Champagne" King Shame
295. Fleetwood Mac Sara
296. Donna Summer On the Radio
297. Ross, Diana Upside Down
298. Carnes, Kim Bette Davis Eyes
299. Pretenders Mystery Achievement
300. Pretenders My City Was Gone

301. Tyler, Bonnie Holding Out For A Hero
302. Sade The Sweetest Taboo
303. Song, Samantha Emotion
304. Rose Royce Love Don't Live Here Anymore
305. Estefan, Gloria 1-2-3
306. Baker, Anita Watch Your Step
307. k.d. Lang Constant Craving
308. Cranberries Zombie
309. Carey, Mariah Love Takes Time
310. Sarah McLachlan Stupid
311. Dion, Celine My Heart Will Go On
312. Cher Believe
313. Spice Girls Tell Me What You Want
314. Christina Aguilera Beautiful
315. Alicia Keys No One
316. Caillat, Colbie Fallin' for You
317. Cranberries You and Me
318. Heart Dreamboat Annie (Reprise)
319. Caillat, Colbie Bubbly
320. Pointer Sisters Fire
321. Chapman, Tracy Talkin' Bout A Revolution
322. Chapman, Tracy For My Lover
323. Madonna Physical Attraction
324. Benatar, Pat Hell Is For Children
325. Underwood, Carrie Before He Cheats
326. Pink So What
327. Chiffons Sweet Talkin' Guy
328. Bush, Kate Running Up That Hill
329. Florence + The Machine You've Got the Love
330. Lavigne, Avril My Happy Ending
331. Estefan, Gloria Give It Up
332. Ad Libs The Boy from New York City
333. Benatar, Pat Promises in the Dark
334. Morissette, Alanis What If God Was One Of Us
335. Cranberries Copycat
336. Estefan, Gloria Rhythm Is Gonna Get You
337. King, Carole Tapestry
338. Baker, Anita Mystery
339. Madonna I Know It
340. Fugees Ready or Not
341. Badu, Erykah On & On
342. Benatar, Pat One Love
343. Raitt, Bonnie Not The Only One
344. Garbage Sex Is Not the Enemy
345. Nina Simone Black Is the Colour of My True Love's Hair
346. Cline, Patsy I Fall to Pieces
347. Etta James I Just Want to Make Love to You
348. Barbra Streisand Happy Days Are Here Again
349. Little Eva The Loco-Motion
350. The Shirelles Soldier Boy

351. Betty Everett It's in His Kiss (The Shoop-Shoop Song)
352. Crystals Da Doo Ron Ron (When He Walked Me Home)
353. Lesley Gore You Don't Own Me
354. Lewis, Barbara Hello Stranger
355. Streisand, Barbara My Heart Belongs To Me
356. The Ronettes Walking in the Rain
357. Springfield, Dusty Son of a Preacher Man
358. Morissette, Alanis Right Through You
359. The Supremes Love Is Like an Itching in My Heart
360. Cher Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)
361. Laura Nyro Stoney End
362. Nina Simone Wild Is The Wind  
363. Carpenters Rainy Days and Mondays
364. Missing Persons Walking in LA
365. Twain, Shania That Don't Impress Me Much
366. Adele Make You Feel My Love
367. Fitzgerald, Ella A-Tisket, A-Tasket
368. Cowboy Junkies Speaking Confidentially
369. Franklin, Aretha Baby, I Love You
370. Joplin, Janis Mercedes Benz
371. Katy Perry California Gurls
372. Adele Rolling In the Deep
373. Lady Gaga Bad Romance
374. Amy Winehouse You Know I'm No Good
375. King, Carole Music
376. Dixie Chicks Not Ready to Make Nice
377. Clarkson, Kelly Since U Been Gone
378. Simone, Nina My Baby Just Cares for Me
379. Warwick, Dionne Walk On By
380. Laura Nyro Wedding Bell Blues
381. Dionne Warwick I Say a Little Prayer
382. Jeannie C. Riley Harper Valley P.T.A.
383. Franklin, Aretha I Say a Little Prayer
384. Judy Collins Both Sides Now
385. Mary Hopkin Those Were the Days
386. Springfield, Dusty It's In His Kiss
387. Smith, Kate He's Got the Whole World In His Hand
388. LaVern Baker I Cried a Tear
389. Anderson, Lynn Rose Garden
390. Carpenters We've Only Just Begun
391. PJ Harvey Hanging In the Wire
392. The Supremes Stoned Love
393. Carpenters For All We Know
394. Cher Gypsys, Tramps and Thieves
395. Honey Cone Want Ads
396. Fifth Dimension One Less Bell To Answer
397. Helen Reddy I Am Woman
398. Aretha Franklin Until You Come Back to Me (That's What I'm Gonna Do)
399. Parton, Dolly Jolene
400. Flack, Roberta Killing Me Softly

401. Three Degrees When Will I See You Again
402. Gaynor, Gloria Never Can Say Goodbye
403. Adele Someone Like You
404. Captain and Tennille Love Will Keep Us Together
405. Houston, Thelma Don't Leave Me This Way
406. Heart Heartless
407. Heart Alone
408. Lee, Brenda I'm Sorry
409. Blondie Fade Away And Radiate
410. Heart Kick It Out
411. Pretenders Stop Your Sobbing
412. Jones, Rickie Lee Chuck E.'s in Love
413. Streisand, Barbara I Am A Woman In Love
414. Ross, Diana I'm Coming Out
415. Go-Go's We Got the Beat
416. Missing Persons Words
417. Fleetwood Mac Everywhere
418. Jackson, Janet Let's Wait Awhile
419. Annie/ Bad Times
420. Dion, Celine Make You Happy
421. Laura Branigan Gloria
422. Irene Cara Flashdance...What a Feeling
423. Santana Primavera
424. Eurythmics Here Comes the Rain Again
425. Bananarama Cruel Summer
426. Nora Bayes Over There
427. Eurythmics Right by Your Side
428. Horne, Lena One For My Baby (And One More For The Road)
429. Janelle Monae Givin' 'Em What They Love
430. Anita Baker Giving You the Best That I Got
431. Nyro, Laura New York Tendaberry
432. Raitt, Bonnie Love Has No Pride
433. Raitt, Bonnie Something to Talk About
434. Estefan, Gloria Here We Are
435. Garbage Stupid Girl
436. Cowboy Junkies Come Calling (His Song)
437. Florence and the Machine Rabbit Heart
438. Cowboy Junkies Just Want To See
439. Cranberries / Promises
440. Destiny's Child Say My Name
441. Pink Don't Let Me Get Me
442. McLachlan, Sarah I Love You
443. Sixpence None the Richer Kiss Me
444. Cranberries What's On My Mind
445. Pink Get the Party Started
446. Avril Lavigne Complicated
447. Carpenter, Mary Chapin Passionate Kisses
448. M.I.A. Paper Planes
449. Annie Heartbeat
450. Robyn Dancing On My Own

451. Robyn With Every Heartbeat
452. Janelle Monae Wondaland
453. McLachlan, Sarah Awakenings
454. Janet Jackson All For You
455. Benatar, Pat We Belong
456. Justice vs. Simian We Are Your Friends
457. Cher You Better Sit Down Kids
458. Estefan, Gloria Words Get In The Way
459. Garbage Only Happy When It Rains
460. Bon Jovi Wanted Dead or Alive
461. Everett, Betty The Shoop Shoop Song (It's In His Kiss)
462. Clarkson, Kelly Breakaway
463. Cranberries Fee Fi Fo
464. Carpenters I Won't Last A Day Without You
465. Avril Lavigne Things I'll Never Say
466. Rihanna Umbrella
467. Missing Persons Desitnation Unknown
468. Blondie Just Go Away
469. Franklin, Aretha The Happy Blues (Let Me In Your Life)
470. Cat Power Don't Explain
471. Bareilles, Sara Morningside
472. Aguilera, Christina Mercy On Me
473. Fitzgerald, Ella The Christmas Song
474. Joss Stone Put Your Hands On Me
475. St. Vincent What Me Worry
476. Sinatra, Nancy These Boots Are Made for Walking
477. Holiday, Billie Lover, Come Back To Me
478. Aretha Franklin Ain't No Way
479. Franklin, Aretha Love Letters
480. Lee, Peggy Is That All There Is
481. Joplin, Janis Half Moon
482. Miley Cyrus Wrecking Ball
483. Melanie Brand New Key
484. Joplin, Janis Buried Alive In The Blues
485. Franklin, Aretha At Last (Let Me In Your Life Outtake)
486. Raitt, Bonnie Got You On My Mind
487. Cat Power Where Is My Love
488. Franklin, Aretha I'm In Love
489. Mitchell, Joni Coyote
490. Franklin, Aretha Only the Lonely
491. Carpenters Please Mr. Postman
492. Dion, Celine Dreamin' of You
493. Vega, Suzanne It Makes Me Wonder
494. Amy Winehouse Love Is a Losing Game
495. Baker, Anita Just Because
496. Madonna Dress You Up
497. Franklin, Aretha The Fool On the Hill
498. Norah Jones Don't Know Why
499. Franklin, Aretha Heavenly Father (Young Gifted and Black)
500. Heart Love Alive

501. Raitt, Bonnie Love Letter
502. Smith, Patti Dancing Barefoot
503. Sister Sledge Lost in Music
504. Donna Summer The Wanderer
505. Pointer Sisters Neutron Dance
506. Mitchell, Joni Just Like This Train
507. Estefan, Gloria I See Your Smile
508. Clark, Petula My Love
509. Carpenter, Mary Chapin The Hard Way
510. St. Vincent We Put a Pearl In The Ground
511. Brickell, Edie Nothing
512. Allanah Myles - Black Velvet
513. Mitchell, Joni Car On A Hill
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Re: Women in Music All-Time Lists - Planning (submissions begin November 1)

Post by Pierre » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:24 am

Henry wrote: 512. Benatar, Pat Black Velvet
Isn't this one by Alannah Myles?

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Post by veganvalentine » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:26 am

DocBrown wrote:
veganvalentine wrote:I looked up Sarah Neufeld, and she was only considered a core member of Arcade Fire on Neon Bible and The Suburbs, so it's probably a stretch to consider her the leader of the band.
Sorry, I thought the sarcasm was implied. Sarah Neufeld has huge upper body strength; she can tell me whatever she wants. The girl lifts.
My bad, I know virtually nothing about the band members except that Win Butler is a great basketball player.

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Post by Henrik » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:16 am

What a perfect timing for me that we have this poll right now! I've been a lot into female artists during the whole 2017 and a month ago I started to prepare myself for next year's all-time songs poll (where my list will look very different compared to the one I did in 2015). For that I decided to begin with separate playlists of favorite songs by decade and gender, so I was kind of on my way to make a list of songs by female artists as well.

Probably a bit because I'm inspired by my 10 year old daughter (who has promised to come up with a personal top 10 that I will be allowed to share!) I'm enjoying modern pop music a lot these days. My list also includes several songs from Asia, Hispanic and Lusitanic countries (and France, perhaps more obviously), where I think female artists have a more prominent position, at least within pop music. I however admit that I don't know that much about Asian or Latin music beyond my favorite songs on this list, so I'd gladly take recommendations based on my songs by Chaweewan Dumnern (the Sound of Siam compilation is incredible), Frances Yip, Orange Caramel, Girls' Generation, Meiko Kaji, Dengue Fever, Carla Morrison, Natalia Lafourcade, Gal Costa, Violeta Parra, Javiera Mena, Lhasa, Alaska y Dinarama, Jeanette and Madredeus.

I'm not done, but I'm so pleased with this project that I feel a need to post my playlist in progress:



A very preliminary top 65:

1 | Björk - All Is Full Of Love
2 | Daughter - New Ways
3 | Anaïs Mitchell - Why We Build The Wall
4 | Mazzy Star - Fade Into You
5 | Nina Simone - Wild Is The Wind
6 | Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights
7 | Ann Peebles - I'm Gonna Tear Your Playhouse Down
8 | The Knife - Silent Shout
9 | Kate Tempest - Tunnel Vision
10 | Carla Morrison - Un Beso
11 | Natalia Lafourcade - La Fugitiva
12 | Seinabo Sey - Hard Time
13 | Dubstar - Stars
14 | Joanna Newsom - The Book Of Right-On
15 | Dusty Springfield - Son Of A Preacher Man
16 | This Mortal Coil - Song To The Siren
17 | Dolly Parton - Jolene
18 | The Ronettes - Be My Baby
19 | Roberta Flack - The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face
20 | Kristin Hersh - Your Ghost
21 | Coal/Mary Born - Stay
22 | iamamiwhoami - Sever
23 | Laura Veirs - July Flame
24 | Feist - My Moon My Man
25 | Bic Runga - Birds
26 | X-Ray Spex - Oh Bondage, Up Yours!
27 | Julee Cruise - Falling
28 | Tammi Terrell - All I Do Is Think About You
29 | Aretha Franklin - One Step Ahead
30 | Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
31 | Robyn - Indestructible
32 | Katrina & The Waves - Walking On Sunshine
33 | Britney Spears - Toxic
34 | Sia - Breathe Me
35 | Dead Can Dance - The Host Of Seraphim
36 | Marlena Shaw - Woman Of The Ghetto
37 | PJ Harvey - Down By The Water
38 | Chaweewan Dumnern - Lam Toey Chaweewan
39 | Lill Lindfors - Du är den ende
40 | Neko Case - Hold On, Hold On
41 | Adele - Hello
42 | Lal Waterson - Flight Of The Pelican
43 | Low - Lullaby
44 | Mojave 3 - Love Songs On The Radio
45 | Frances Yip - Green Is The Mountain
46 | Agnes - One Last Time
47 | Heart - Crazy On You
48 | Rhoda Dakar - The Boiler
49 | Stina Nordenstam - Crime
50 | Minnie Riperton - Lovin' You
51 | Tori Amos - Winter
52 | Wendy Rene - After Laughter (Comes Tears)
53 | Sade - By Your Side
54 | Nao - Apple Cherry
55 | Blondie - Rapture
56 | Kylie Minogue - Can't Get You Out Of My Head
57 | Etta James - At Last
58 | Alvvays - Archie, Marry Me
59 | Betty Davis - He Was a Big Freak
60 | El Perro Del Mar - Change Of Heart
61 | Jenny Wilson - Let My Shoes Lead Me Forward
62 | Orange Caramel - Catallena
63 | Beyoncé - Formation
64 | Santigold - Disparate Youth
65 | Zara Larsson - Lush Life

Other songs with a good chance to make my top 250:

Aaliyah - Try Again
ABBA - Dancing Queen
ABBA - Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)
Abbey Lincoln - Afro Blue
Adele - Rolling In The Deep
Agnes Obel - The Curse
Alaska Y Dinarama - Un Hombre De Verdad
Alpha - Somewhere Not Here
Althea And Donna - Uptown Top Ranking
AlunaGeorge - Your Drums, Your Love
Amy Winehouse - Back To Black
Anita Baker - Sweet Love
Ann Peebles - I Can't Stand The Rain
Ann Peebles - Run, Run, Run
Anne Clark - Nothing Going On
Anne Clark - Our Darkness
Annie - Heartbeat
Antony and the Johnsons - Man Is The Baby
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Post by panam » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:53 am

A question: in the artist list, i could include female songwriters that never performed?

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Post by BleuPanda » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:37 pm

panam wrote:A question: in the artist list, i could include female songwriters that never performed?

Hmm...since we're nominating individuals in music, I think that would be okay? I'm just not sure how much support they would get, but I don't see an issue as long as they were involved in making music to some degree.

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Post by Bruno » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:07 am

I'm in! :music-rockon:

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Post by Listyguy » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:57 pm

I'm starting to work on my song list and am curious what opinions there are on Sly & the Family Stone. My current metric is to only include a song if I feel like it has significant female vocal contributions (for bands that are male and female). There are only three songs by the band that I think might fit this qualification: "Runnin Away", "You Caught Me Smilin", and "Everyday People". I personally feel that the first two are songs I could place on my list, while the third I don't think meets the standard I have set.

By the way, I'm not necessarily asking because my opinion will be changed by what you say. Granted, that could happen, but I'm more or less trying to gauge how I should make these kinds of decisions moving forward.

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Post by Honorio » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:03 pm

Excellent idea, BleuPanda, of course I will submit a list (well, three lists).
And excellent lists so far, especially Henrik's. Love your list, my friend!

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Post by Sweepstakes Ron » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:18 pm

I'm definitely going to submit a songs list, though probably rather late in the game. An album list from me would likely be very short, and I have no idea how to even begin ranking artists.

And speaking of the all-time songs poll... I was planning to start it in March, since the 2015 poll started in March, but I was wondering, would that be too soon after this women in music poll? The results would come at some point in July, most likely, but I worry that people would make comparisons back to the results of this poll and just be sad if women aren't doing as well in the all-time poll.
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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:19 pm

Sweepstakes Ron wrote:I'm definitely going to submit a songs list, though probably rather late in the game. An album list from me would likely be very short, and I have no idea how to even begin ranking artists.

And speaking of the all-time songs poll... I was planning to start it in March, since the 2015 poll started in March, but I was wondering, would that be too soon after this women in music poll? The results would come at some point in July, most likely, but I worry that people would make comparisons back to the results of this poll and just be sad if women aren't doing as well in the all-time poll.
It will soon take 7 years for the decade polls to make a full rotation, once the 2010s are added... Maybe the all-time song list could just as well be every 4 years instead of 3??

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Post by StevieFan13 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:31 pm

Live in Phoenix wrote:
Sweepstakes Ron wrote:I'm definitely going to submit a songs list, though probably rather late in the game. An album list from me would likely be very short, and I have no idea how to even begin ranking artists.

And speaking of the all-time songs poll... I was planning to start it in March, since the 2015 poll started in March, but I was wondering, would that be too soon after this women in music poll? The results would come at some point in July, most likely, but I worry that people would make comparisons back to the results of this poll and just be sad if women aren't doing as well in the all-time poll.
I’m so ready for the song poll though!
It will soon take 7 years for the decade polls to make a full rotation, once the 2010s are added... Maybe the all-time song list could just as well be every 4 years instead of 3??
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Post by andyd1010 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:53 pm

Live in Phoenix wrote:It will soon take 7 years for the decade polls to make a full rotation, once the 2010s are added... Maybe the all-time song list could just as well be every 4 years instead of 3??
I’m pretty excited for the songs poll, and I think this poll will give women a boost and not lead to much disappointment, so I don’t have a problem with the timing. I love the 3-year rotation we have going.

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:27 pm

StevieFan13 wrote:
Live in Phoenix wrote:
Sweepstakes Ron wrote:I'm definitely going to submit a songs list, though probably rather late in the game. An album list from me would likely be very short, and I have no idea how to even begin ranking artists.

And speaking of the all-time songs poll... I was planning to start it in March, since the 2015 poll started in March, but I was wondering, would that be too soon after this women in music poll? The results would come at some point in July, most likely, but I worry that people would make comparisons back to the results of this poll and just be sad if women aren't doing as well in the all-time poll.
I’m so ready for the song poll though!
It will soon take 7 years for the decade polls to make a full rotation, once the 2010s are added... Maybe the all-time song list could just as well be every 4 years instead of 3??
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Post by Rob » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:16 pm

I'm pretty sure I said something like this before when a list of women-only music was posted in the Critic's List part of the forum, but I do find it somewhat weird to treat women in this way. It is meant positively of course, but it has the unfortunate side effect of turning women once again into something different. As a group that needs their own topic to get appreciated. It rubs me the wrong way somehow, regardless of intentions. The fact that women work on so many projects with men (perfectly exemplified by the fact that most of the discussions here are about which songs qualify as female and which don't) show that they are an organic part of music, not a standalone group of entities from the outside. They are not a genre, not a perfectly outlined country with a border, but a real part of music in all its facets. I guess this is deserving of celebration, but you wish it was so bloody obvious that it didn't need something like this anymore.

Sure, women haven't always been treated seriously in music. This varies per country and genre of course. Folk has always favored women, metal is still uncomfortable with them. Things are far better now than they ever were, as I feel that at least half of the great music is made by women now, something which wasn't always possible. Music critics are mostly male which might in some way have worked against them (though we are mostly male here too). The rock revolution of the sixties, which is so many times referred to as the most important musical point in the history of at least the last 100 years, was perhaps the most unkind era for women (most great female performers of the era performed outside of rock dichotomy; basically Janis Joplin and Tina Turner were the only two female rockers with big names of the time). That has hurt their status. So yeah, those things make you pause and want to list their achievements.

However, before I joined this forum I barely knew that "listening to women" was such an issue; perhaps a naivety of me. I always listened to them for probably half of my time. I have two friends who claim to listen only to men, because "real men don't listen to women", but these guys always seemed like the outliers, not the rule.

In some ways, I want to make these lists. I have a lot of favorite albums, songs and artists that qualify so it is not a problem and I would also not mind to spend the last few months of the year to catch up to some albums and songs I missed, never heard of or just haven't listened to in some time. Discovering new music is what is all about at the end of the day and listening to all these women will surely prove worthwhile. But I need some time to think whether this whole thing sits well enough with me to continue on with it. [also, I have another personal music project planned from mid-November onward and I'm not sure I want to scratch it for this]

Just some personal thoughts. Not meant as criticism, but more as a reflection on my part. Make of it what you will.

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Post by luvulongTIM » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:12 pm

I always loved dreampop/shoegaze and twee BECAUSE of how female friendly the genres are. How often can you name a genre like dreampop where a band features a female vocalist that pretty much pioneered the entire genre. I’m talking of course about The Cocteau Twins Elizabeth Fraser but they’re constantly being overshadowed by their male contemporaries such as the Jesus and Mary Chain or MBV who you forget even sometimes features a female vocalist because Kevin Shields obscures the rest of them. I practically had to write a thesis just to nudge others from the group to get the Cocteaus into our very own HOF :D

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:23 pm

Rob wrote:
Music lists have been broken down into so many different categories (including "what does it really matter" categories) that whether or not the idea of lists about women can withstand the greatest scrutiny, I think it's at least worthy of a forum run-through once.

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Post by BleuPanda » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:07 pm

Hmm...with all the confusion it's causing, are people even wanting an album version for this? Really, the album poll was recent enough we could always just look at it if we wanted to see the top albums involving women. I know I'm much more interested in the other two polls, and they're much easier to define what does and doesn't qualify.

In response to Rob's message, while I think it's nice to believe we should just treat everyone equally, that doesn't always work in practice, and one of the best ways to make it work is to actively take effort in making it work. It might be odd with women, since they are half the population, but think of it with more overlooked groups. Are you opposed to celebrating our favorite artists from Japan, or actively seeking out the voices of genderqueer people? Many people who would enjoy music by those artists likely wouldn't know they exist without taking the effort to find them. Now imagine if we refused to hold those discussions because we believed they should be treated the same as anyone else, while also not actually talking about them in our usual circle. It's a good way of erasing the presence of certain groups. This holds especially true when we move into other mediums; if we don't make a point to discuss female directors, there are, what, four who might be discussed?

Even women are largely overlooked; the highest woman on acclaimed music's list is Madonna at #27...and even as the #1 most acclaimed woman on this site, it's easy to see she isn't taken as seriously as the artists that surround her.

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Post by Rob » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:44 pm

BleuPanda wrote:Are you opposed to celebrating our favorite artists from Japan, or actively seeking out the voices of genderqueer people?
Well, first off I only seek out music based in genre and time periods, not really based on the personal backgrounds of the artists. I do think there is a big difference between looking at regional music and gender/ sexuality based music. Japanese music has a lot of barriers. The language is one, a completely unknown musical tradition is another and above all that it hardly has any representation outside of its borders. For the most part, you really have to seek out Japanese music is you want to know it, go to Japanese sources. Women, genderqueer people, etc. might be underrepresented in some ways but they are very much part of our western culture and media representation (even if not always in an ideal way). In large ways, only English language music really travels across borders (though were I'm from there is certainly a solid marker for French and German music, as well as some for Italian and Spanish music). Instrumentals too of course, but they aren't as popular as they used to be.
Now imagine if we refused to hold those discussions because we believed they should be treated the same as anyone else, while also not actually talking about them in our usual circle. It's a good way of erasing the presence of certain groups. This holds especially true when we move into other mediums; if we don't make a point to discuss female directors, there are, what, four who might be discussed?
I see what you're saying, but this isn't quite what I'm getting at. You can only shut women out when you keep them off every list. If you make a main top 1000 albums and hardly get any women in then that is bad. Making a separate list with only women besides the main one can come across as saying: "Well we don't think you are good enough for the big leagues, but here are still some albums/ songs we enjoy". Perhaps it is good in that it highlights glaring omissions, which might fix things. That's what I like about this game. But the feeling that women are once again "the other" and need special assistance to go places is what sits badly with me, even if I notice the good intentions.
Even women are largely overlooked; the highest woman on acclaimed music's list is Madonna at #27...and even as the #1 most acclaimed woman on this site, it's easy to see she isn't taken as seriously as the artists that surround her.
I agree here. The main artist and especially the top of the album list are a sorry place for women. [Though personally I wouldn't put Madonna even in a top 500 of best female musicians, let alone a top 5000 artists in general, but that is just me].

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to shut down this game. In a way I'm looking forward to the results and perhaps participating. But this mostly as a way of discovering and sharing music. I prefer polls that take their time in preparation as you can go deep in advance of making your own list. As a feminist statement, though, I think it is a double-edged sword, regardless of intentions. But perhaps this angle isn't the only thing here.

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Post by Neil » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:16 am

Artists

1. Madonna
2. Lana Del Rey
3. Lady Gaga
4. Taylor Swift
5. Robyn
6. Janet jackson
7. Britney Spears
8. Katy Perry
9. Sheryl Crow
10. Whitney Houston
11. Agnetha Falskog & AnnaFrid Lyngstad (ABBA)
12. Beyonce
13. Miranda Lambert
14. Helen Folsade Adu (Sade)
15. Kim Deal (Pixies and Breeders)
16. Kelly Clarkson
17. Adele
18. Cyndi Lauper
19. Aretha Franklin
20. Rihanna
21. Debbie Harry (Blondie)
22 Tina Weymouth (Talking Heads, Tom Tom Club)
23. Nina Simone
24. Shirley Manson (Garbage)
25. Courtney Love (Hole)
26. Mariah Carey
27. Dolly Parton
28. Dusty Springfield
29. Marina and the Diamonds
30. Donna Summer
31. Sarah McLachlan
32. Ashley Monroe
33. Miley Cyrus
34. Kylie Minogue
35. Grimes
36. Meg White (White Stripes)
37. Kate Bush
38. Carly Rae Jepsen
39. Joni Mitchell
40. Alicia Keys
41. Amy Winehouse
42. Stevie Nicks (Fleetwood Mac)
43. Liz Phair
44. Olivia Newton John
45. Annie Lennox (Eurythmics)
46. Lorde
47. TLC
48. Tori Amos
49. Lily Allen
50. The Supremes
51. Missy Elliott
52. Hope Sandoval (Mazzy Star)
53. Beth Gibbons (Portishead)
54. Trisha Yearwood
55. Diana Ross
56. M.I.A.
57. Chrissie Hynde (The Pretenders)
58. Sia
59. Tracyanne Cambell (Camera Obscura)
60. Cher
61. Carrie Underwood
62. Alison Krauss
63. Gwen Stefani (No Doubt)
64. Dixie Chicks
65. Tammy Wynette
66. Suzanne Vega
67. Nicki Minaj
68. Sinead O'Connor
69. Dolores O'Riordan (The Cranberries)
70. Cat Power
71. Erykah Badu
72. Alison Moyet (Yazoo)
73. Ariana Grande
74. Joan Jett
75. Patsy Cline
76. Courtney Barnett
77. Dido
78. Fergie
79. Jennifer Lopez
80. Mary J. Blige
81. Kate Pierson & Cindy Wilson (B52's)
82. Karen Carpenter (The Carpenters)
83. Shania Twain
84. Anohni
85. Barbra Streisand
86. Patty Loveless
87. Etta James
88. Fiona Apple
89. Neko Case
90. Tanya Tucker
91. Solange
92. Roseanne Cash
93. The Ronettes
94. Enya
95. Natalie Cole
96. Duffy
97. Nelly Furtado
98. Patti Smith
99. Pat Benatar
100. Marie Fredriksson (Roxette)
101. Ciara
102. The Pointer Sisters
103. Selena Gomez
104. Tegan and Sara
105. Aimee Mann
106. Carly Simon
107. Bonnie Raitt
108. Alison Goldfrapp (Goldfrapp)
109. Shakira
110. Kacey Musgraves
111. Mary Chapin Carpenter
112. Roberta Flack
113. Siouxsie Sioux
114. Celine Dion
115. Ann and Nancy Wilson (Heart)
116. Jessie Ware
117. St. Vincent
118. Florence Welch (Florence and the Machine)
119. Tina Turner
120. Bjork
121. CSS
122. The Sugarcubes
123. Brittany Howard (Alabama Shakes)
124. Avril Lavingne
125. Harriet Wheeler (The Sundays)
126. Ke$ha
127. Keyshia Cole
128 . Lucinda Williams
129. The Spice Girls
130. Angel Olsen
131. Billie Holiday
132. Chic
133. Firsl Aid Kit
134. Carole King
135. Faith Hill
136. Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam
137. Mandy Moore
138. Monica
139. Connie Francis
140. Miss Lady Kier (Dee-Lite)
141. Nancy Sinatra
142. Sky Ferreira
143. Dionne Warwick
144. Hillary Scott (Lady Antebellum)
145. PJ Harvey
146. Annie
147. Lee Ann Womack
148. Bonnie Somerville
149. HAIM
150. Peggy Lee

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Post by panam » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:50 am

So, can we start sending our lists?

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Post by Moonbeam » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:52 am

Rob raises some good points about this exercise serving as an "othering" of sorts, but I think the benefits are worth it. Aside from being a fun set of polls that we have never done, these lists offer a great way to give these artists greater exposure: we've seen that community games of less acclaimed works (such as AM World Cup, Moderately Acclaimed Albums, Unacclaimed) have given a boost to certain albums and songs, and I feel that this could do the same.

Moreover, I think such exposure is warranted. What we all have in common is that we ventured upon this site with an interest in critics lists, which have certainly contributed to the perception that the greatest music is created by men, and since these lists often inform us of what to listen to, I feel that our lists reflect such inherent (though I suspect subconscious) biases.

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Re: Women in Music All-Time Lists - Planning (submissions begin November 1)

Post by Honorio » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:47 pm

BleuPanda wrote:Hmm...with all the confusion it's causing, are people even wanting an album version for this? Really, the album poll was recent enough we could always just look at it if we wanted to see the top albums involving women. I know I'm much more interested in the other two polls, and they're much easier to define what does and doesn't qualify.
I was thinking along the same lines as you, BleuPanda, until I stumbled upon this list, list that was previously discussed here (not finding too much support here). I like it a lot though despite –like any other list– its glaring omissions (BleuPanda, you'll find particularly offensive the absence of The Knife/Fever Ray and St. Vincent). It showcases the impressive quality and variety of the albums made by women, having a good balance of styles, decades and mainstream/indie artists. I'm glad to see that finally we will have the albums poll. This NPR list (plus Henrik's song list) will determine my listening for the following weeks until I come with my own lists on the subject.
On the NPR list they included "some by mixed-gender bands, like Fleetwood Mac and X, that, in our view, relied on women's creativity for their spark" (quoting Ann Powers, NPR critic). So a similar rule that the one you included, with "any album featuring notable songwriting contributions from a woman/women within the band." So, if I understood it well, albums like Chic's "Risqué" or ABBA's "Arrival" are not eligible despite having female lead vocals because the songwriters were male, even if songs from these albums are eligible for the songs list. Am I right? If the answer is yes I'm perfectly OK with it.

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Re: Women in Music All-Time Lists - Planning (submissions begin November 1)

Post by BleuPanda » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:08 pm

Honorio wrote:On the NPR list they included "some by mixed-gender bands, like Fleetwood Mac and X, that, in our view, relied on women's creativity for their spark" (quoting Ann Powers, NPR critic). So a similar rule that the one you included, with "any album featuring notable songwriting contributions from a woman/women within the band." So, if I understood it well, albums like Chic's "Risqué" or ABBA's "Arrival" are not eligible despite having female lead vocals because the songwriters were male, even if songs from these albums are eligible for the songs list. Am I right? If the answer is yes I'm perfectly OK with it.
I think that's what I'm going for? I don't know if all people will agree, but I feel like that's the best method of judging the most important figure behind an album. I still think it's one of those things where, if an album is on a questionable border, we can discuss it as it comes up. Like, I probably wouldn't have paid any attention to Risque or Arrival getting votes, as I don't think people would really have problems one way or another.

Perhaps I should add "or has lead vocals by a woman on majority of tracks"?

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Re: Women in Music All-Time Lists - Planning (submissions begin November 1)

Post by Honorio » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:31 pm

BleuPanda wrote:Perhaps I should add "or has lead vocals by a woman on majority of tracks"?
Mmm, I'm not sure. Looking at the NPR list there are enough excellent albums without including it but maybe if the "lead vocal" is OK for songs could apply with albums too. I don't know. Let's see what other people thinks...

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Post by JohnnyBGoode » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:56 am

Does a duet with a male & female count?

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Post by Bruno » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:00 pm

JohnnyBGoode wrote:Does a duet with a male & female count?
Yes.

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