Music of Hip Hop: Nominations
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Music of Hip Hop: Nominations
“Emerging mainly on the eastern coast of the United States in the late 1970s, hip hop is a form of music emphasizing rhythmic beat patterns and spoken delivery rather than harmonic melodies and sung vocals. Much of hip hop's roots can be traced to Deejay, a form of Reggae music that an immigrant DJ Kool Herc hoped to emulate in the Bronx borough of New York City. The style quickly took over in uptown neighborhoods such as Harlem and Queens, where many enjoyed the loose, afro-centric nature of the parties Kool Herc would put on. Adapting the format to Disco and Funk breaks rather than the reggae Herc was used to further enhanced the genre's appeal in urban communities.
The music quickly took over in New York and Connecticut while expanding across the United States and eventually other countries through the 1980s and 1990s. Eventually incorporating Soul and Jazz breaks into its musical lexicon, hip hop as it is known today continues to incorporate sampling of both popular and obscure tracks from the past and present that one or more MCs rap lyrics over in a stylized, rhythmic response or addition to the beat.”
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The rules:
1. The 10 highest ranking albums and the 20 highest ranking songs will be automatically included in the tournament.
2. Private Message me a list of 5 albums and 7 songs you want to see in the tournament
3. Nomination are due by Sunday, 9 April at noon EST
4. Each person’s #1 choice will be included, if two or more people have the same #1 their #2 and further on will be included.
5. If there is still room left any albums or songs mentioned multiple times will get in.
6. And if there is still room left I’ll go down the lists submitted.
Be sure to get your nominations in early
Here are the albums and songs that automatically get included:
Albums
Beastie Boys - Paul’s Boutique
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing...
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
OutKast - Stankonia
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu Tang (36 Chambers)
Songs
Afrika Bambaataa & The Soul Sonic Force - Planet Rock
Beastie Boys - Sabotage
Beastie Boys - (You Gotta Fight) For Your Right (to Party)
Dr. Dre - Nuthin But a ‘G’ Thang
Eminem - My Name Is
Eminem - Stan
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message
Jay Z - Empire State of Mind
Jay Z - 99 Problems
Kendrick Lamar - King Kunta
M.I.A. - Paper Planes
Missy Elliott - Get Ur Freak On
N.W.A. - F*** the Police
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
OutKast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)
OutKast - Ms. Jackson
Public Enemy - Bring the Noise
Public Enemy - Fight the Power
Run D.M.C. - Walk This Way
The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight
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Re: Music of Hip Hop: Nominations
How many songs/albums will be in the tournament?
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32 albums and 64 songs. I knew I would forget something.Listyguy wrote:How many songs/albums will be in the tournament?
I've received lists from:
StevieFan13
Listguy
EmilienDelRey
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So far I've received lists from:
StevieFan13
Listguy
EmilienDelRey
Bonnielaurel
Prosecutorgodot
Acroamor
Bootsy
Rocky Raccoon
StevieFan13
Listguy
EmilienDelRey
Bonnielaurel
Prosecutorgodot
Acroamor
Bootsy
Rocky Raccoon
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NO! Beyoncé's "Crazy in Love" and Rihanna's "Umbrella" shouldn't be eligible. They are pop songs that happen to have a rapper feature on them.
I'm sorry, but it's how I feel.
I'm sorry, but it's how I feel.
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I agree, actually. I'd actually also debate including Crazy - does it count as hip-hop? I know Cee-Lo is a rapper and Danger Mouse has produced rap, but the song is more pop/soul than anything else.babydoll wrote:NO! Beyoncé's "Crazy in Love" and Rihanna's "Umbrella" shouldn't be eligible. They are pop songs that happen to have a rapper feature on them.
I'm sorry, but it's how I feel.
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Re: Music of Hip Hop: Nominations
Wow! I didn't even notice these. Yeah these are huge mistakes. I'm down to re-submit when ordinaryperson decides which new songs to add to the list.StevieFan13 wrote:I agree, actually. I'd actually also debate including Crazy - does it count as hip-hop? I know Cee-Lo is a rapper and Danger Mouse has produced rap, but the song is more pop/soul than anything else.babydoll wrote:NO! Beyoncé's "Crazy in Love" and Rihanna's "Umbrella" shouldn't be eligible. They are pop songs that happen to have a rapper feature on them.
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Definitely agree with this.babydoll wrote:NO! Beyoncé's "Crazy in Love" and Rihanna's "Umbrella" shouldn't be eligible. They are pop songs that happen to have a rapper feature on them.
I'm sorry, but it's how I feel.
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Funny thing is I listened to Hey Ya yesterday and thought how can anyone call this hip hop ? He SINGS on most of the song !
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Andre 3000 rapped more on "Hey Ya!" than Drake has his entire career.spiritualized wrote:Funny thing is I listened to Hey Ya yesterday and thought how can anyone call this hip hop ? He SINGS on most of the song !
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What's cooler than being cool?babydoll wrote:Andre 3000 rapped more on "Hey Ya!" than Drake has his entire career.spiritualized wrote:Funny thing is I listened to Hey Ya yesterday and thought how can anyone call this hip hop ? He SINGS on most of the song !
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babydoll wrote:Andre 3000 rapped more on "Hey Ya!" than Drake has his entire career.spiritualized wrote:Funny thing is I listened to Hey Ya yesterday and thought how can anyone call this hip hop ? He SINGS on most of the song !
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Regardless of if those three do get removed, I'm pretty sure you forgot to include "Empire State of Mind". It ranks higher than Ms. Jackson, Stan, Bring the Noise, Umbrella, Fuck tha Police and Fight For Your Right To Party.
(Assuming you used the unofficial update, which, considering To Pimp a Butterfly was included, is what I'm guessing we're using for these.)
(Assuming you used the unofficial update, which, considering To Pimp a Butterfly was included, is what I'm guessing we're using for these.)
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Also in the realm of "rap technicalities," one spot higher than King Kunta is Hotline Bling.Listyguy wrote:Regardless of if those three do get removed, I'm pretty sure you forgot to include "Empire State of Mind". It ranks higher than Ms. Jackson, Stan, Bring the Noise, Umbrella, Fuck tha Police and Fight For Your Right To Party.
(Assuming you used the unofficial update, which, considering To Pimp a Butterfly was included, is what I'm guessing we're using for these.)
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I've changed the 20 songs that automatically get in and I'll give you another week to change your nominations.
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I've received lists from:
Acroamor
Andyd1010
Antonius
Bootsy
Bonnielaurel
EmilienDelRey
Listguy
Neil
Notbrianeno
Prosecutorgodot
Rocky Raccoon
Spiritulized
Slick
StevieFan13
Acroamor
Andyd1010
Antonius
Bootsy
Bonnielaurel
EmilienDelRey
Listguy
Neil
Notbrianeno
Prosecutorgodot
Rocky Raccoon
Spiritulized
Slick
StevieFan13
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Less than 24 hours to get your nominations in.
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Total list of people who submitted nominations:
Acroamor
Andyd1010
Antonius
Babydoll
Bootsy
Bonnielaurel
EmilienDelRey
IllumiThottie
Listguy
Nassim
Neil
Notbrianeno
Phil
Prosecutorgodot
Rocky Raccoon
Spiritulized
Slick
StevieFan13
Acroamor
Andyd1010
Antonius
Babydoll
Bootsy
Bonnielaurel
EmilienDelRey
IllumiThottie
Listguy
Nassim
Neil
Notbrianeno
Phil
Prosecutorgodot
Rocky Raccoon
Spiritulized
Slick
StevieFan13
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We nominated way too many Kanye West songs.
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Yeah I agree. No Shook Ones, Pt II but Survival of the Fittest.babydoll wrote:We nominated way too many Kanye West songs.
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And one of the Kanye songs I was hoping would be there (Gold Digger) doesnt appear to be.bootsy wrote:Yeah I agree. No Shook Ones, Pt II but Survival of the Fittest.babydoll wrote:We nominated way too many Kanye West songs.
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It is there.StevieFan13 wrote:And one of the Kanye songs I was hoping would be there (Gold Digger) doesnt appear to be.bootsy wrote:Yeah I agree. No Shook Ones, Pt II but Survival of the Fittest.babydoll wrote:We nominated way too many Kanye West songs.
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Whup. Never mind. Wish Shook Ones was.babydoll wrote:It is there.StevieFan13 wrote:And one of the Kanye songs I was hoping would be there (Gold Digger) doesnt appear to be.bootsy wrote:
Yeah I agree. No Shook Ones, Pt II but Survival of the Fittest.
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Wow, no College Dropout and no Eminem albums
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There were some surprises for sure. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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There weren't a lot of doubles and I still needed about 20 songs in order to reach 64. So I went down the all the nominations in order of when they were sent to me.
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Would probably have been nicer to take everybody's 2nd in order, then everybody's 3rd...ordinaryperson wrote:There weren't a lot of doubles and I still needed about 20 songs in order to reach 64. So I went down the all the nominations in order of when they were sent to me.
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I agree that is a better strategy (as much as I love seeing many of my nominations in the game )Nassim wrote: Would probably have been nicer to take everybody's 2nd in order, then everybody's 3rd...
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I'm curious how the seeding was done for these brackets. I'm a little surprised to see It Takes a Nation of Millions and To Pimp a Butterfly meeting in the first round.
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I agree with this. That's how I understood the rules when I read them (probably reading what I would have preferred into it, rather than what it said).Nassim wrote:Would probably have been nicer to take everybody's 2nd in order, then everybody's 3rd...ordinaryperson wrote:There weren't a lot of doubles and I still needed about 20 songs in order to reach 64. So I went down the all the nominations in order of when they were sent to me.Listyguy wrote:
Wow, all seven of the songs I nominated ended up in the tournament! How did that happen? Did those most of them appear on multiple lists? I'd be highly surprised if somebody else ranked "Suicidal Thoughts".
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This is what I assumed as well.phil wrote:I agree with this. That's how I understood the rules when I read them (probably reading what I would have preferred into it, rather than what it said).Nassim wrote:Would probably have been nicer to take everybody's 2nd in order, then everybody's 3rd...ordinaryperson wrote: There weren't a lot of doubles and I still needed about 20 songs in order to reach 64. So I went down the all the nominations in order of when they were sent to me.
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So is there going to be a redo on the song ballots?
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Yes, I'll get to it some time later this week.babydoll wrote:So is there going to be a redo on the song ballots?
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I have redone the song ballots and the tournament will still start on the 22nd of April.
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