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Top 30 Smiths Songs (results up)

Post by StevieFan13 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:58 pm

Although they tied with the "women in music" list, that one will be saved for a little later (and that one will go on for about a month or two as opposed to 1 week), so for now, here are those Manchester critical darlings, the Smiths!
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Voting runs until Friday. Choose between 10 and 15 songs.

There is a Light That Never Goes Out (12 lists)
Bigmouth Strikes Again (11 lists)
The Boy with the Thorn in His Side (11 lists)
This Charming Man (11 lists)
How Soon is Now? (10 lists)
William, It Was Really Nothing (9 lists)
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (8 lists)
Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before (8 lists)
What Difference Does It Make? (8 lists)
I Know It's Over (6 lists)
Last Night I Dream That Somebody Loved Me (6 lists)
Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (6 lists)
The Queen is Dead (6 lists)
Ask (5 lists)
Hand in Glove (5 lists)
Girlfriend in a Coma (4 lists)
Panic (4 lists)
Cemetry Gates (3 lists)
I Started Something I Couldn't Finish (3 lists)
Is It Really So Strange? (3 lists)
Reel Around the Fountain (3 lists)
Frankly Mr. Shankly (2 lists)
Meat is Murder (2 lists)
Rusholme Ruffians (2 lists)
Sheila Take a Bow (2 lists)
Sweet and Tender Hooligan (2 lists)
That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore (2 lists)
Unhappy Birthday (2 lists)
Vicar in a Tutu (2 lists)
Well I Wonder (2 lists)
You've Got Everything Now (2 lists)
A Rush and a Push and the Land is Ours (1 list)
Barbarism Begins at Home (1 list)
Death of a Disco Dancer (1 list)
Girl Afraid (1 list)
Half a Person (1 list)
I Don't Owe You Anything (1 list)
I Want the One I Can't Have (1 list)
Never Had No One Ever (1 list)
Pretty Girls Make Graves (1 list)
Stretch Out and Wait (1 list)
Suffer Little Children (1 list)
The Hand That Rocks the Cradle (1 list)
The Headmaster Ritual (1 list)
This Night Has Opened My Eyes (1 list)
What She Said (1 list)
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Post by StevieFan13 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:06 pm

My personal list:
1) There is a Light That Never Goes Out
2) How Soon is Now?
3) William, It Was Really Nothing
4) This Charming Man
5) Frankly Mr. Shankly
6) The Queen is Dead
7) Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before
8) Sheila Take a Bow
9) The Boy with the Thorn in His Side
10) Panic
11) Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
12) I Know It's Over
13) Ask
14) Bigmouth Strikes Again
15) The Headmaster Ritual
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Re: Top 30 Smiths Songs (voting starts now!)

Post by Pierre » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:54 pm

StevieFan13 wrote:Although they tied with the "women in music" list, that one will be saved for a little later (and that one will go on for about 2-3 weeks as opposed to 1)
You might want to extend that. That's some pretty ambitious project there.

Otherwise, I don't remember, we vote for 10 or 15 eligible songs for a top 30?

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Post by StevieFan13 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:18 pm

Pierre wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:Although they tied with the "women in music" list, that one will be saved for a little later (and that one will go on for about 2-3 weeks as opposed to 1)
You might want to extend that. That's some pretty ambitious project there.

Otherwise, I don't remember, we vote for 10 or 15 eligible songs for a top 30?
Probably.
And between 10-15 for a top 30.
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Post by catsafterme » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:56 pm

1) There Is a Light that Never Goes Out
2) Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before
3) This Charming Man
4) What Difference Does It Make?
5) The Boy with the Thorn in His Side
6) Sheila Take a Bow
7) Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
8) This Night Has Opened My Eyes
9) Rusholme Ruffians
10) Half a Person
11) I Want the One I Can't Have
12) Pretty Girls Make Graves
13) Sweet and Tender Hooligan
14) That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore
15) What She Said

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Post by Henrik » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:43 pm

1. Girlfriend In A Coma
2. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
3. This Charming Man
4. What Difference Does It Make?
5. Meat Is Murder
6. Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
7. Well I Wonder
8. The Queen Is Dead
9. Bigmouth Strikes Again
10. How Soon Is Now?
11. Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
12. Death Of A Disco Dancer
13. Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before
14. A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours
15. I Started Something I Couldn't Finish
16. Reel Around The Fountain
17. William, It Was Really Nothing
18. The Headmaster Ritual
19. Nowhere Fast
20. That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore
21. Hand In Glove
22. Ask
23. I Know It's Over
24. Cemetry Gates
25. Barbarism Begins At Home
26. The Boy With The Thorn In His Side
27. I Don't Owe You Anything
28. Shoplifters Of The World Unite
29. Unhappy Birthday
30. You've Got Everything Now
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Post by antonius » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:21 pm

1. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
2. I Know It's Over
3. Hand In Glove
4. What Difference Does It Make?
5. Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
6. Girlfriend In A Coma
7. How Soon Is Now?
8. Bigmouth Strikes Again
9. Panic
10. Ask
11. The Queen Is Dead
12. The Boy With A Thorn In His Side
13. William, It Was Really Nothing
14. This Charming Man
15. Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want

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Post by slick » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:59 pm

1. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
2. How Soon Is Now?
3. Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
4. William, It Was Really Nothing
5. Hand In Glove
6. Is It Really So Strange?
7. What Difference Does It Make
8. This Charming Man
9. Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want
10. Bigmouth Strikes Again
11. Reel Around The Fountain
12. The Boy With A Thorn In His Side
13. I Started Something I Couldn't Finish
14. Heaven Know I'm Miserable Now
15. Ask

16. That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore
17. Cemtery Gates
18. Shoplifters Of The World
19. Panic
20. Sheila Take A Bow
21. Still Ill
22. Girlfriend In A Coma
23. Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
24. Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before
25. Pretty Girls Make Graves
26. The Headmaster Ritual
27. Meat is Murder
28. The Queen Is Dead
29. You've Got Everything Now
30. I Want The One I Can't Have

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:59 pm

1. How Soon Is Now?
2. There Is a Light That Never Goes Out
3. The Boy with the Thorn in His Side
4. Stop Me If You’ve Heard This One Before
5. Reel Around the Fountain
6. This Charming Man
7. You’ve Got Everything Now
8. Vicar in a Tutu
9. Bigmouth Strikes Again
10. I Know It’s Over

Don’t know if this will work, but I’ve also messaged an old schoolmate asking for a top ten. (I listen to Morrissey; he basically lives by him.)

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:18 pm

So as I understand it, there's not even necessarily a need to rank the songs? You're essentially counting mentions? This may work better for my friend.

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Post by StevieFan13 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:20 pm

Live in Phoenix wrote:So as I understand it, there's not even necessarily a need to rank the songs? You're essentially counting mentions? This may work better for my friend.
Basically, but if you want to rank 'em, that's fine too. Regardless, I'm still only counting ten-fifteen.
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Post by Henry » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:51 pm

1) There Is A Light that Never Goes Out (2303)
2) This Charming Man (2402)
3) Bigmouth Strikes Again (2608)
4) William, It Was Really Nothing (2590)
5) How Soon is Now (3559)
6) Hand in Glove (5035)
7) The Queen Is Dead (5145)
8) The Boy With the Thorn In His Side (5156)
9) I Know It's Over (5823)
10) Cemetry Gates (5829)
11) Girlfriend In a Coma (5843)
12) What Difference Does it Make (5845)
13) Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (5855)
14) Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me (6111)
15) Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (6206)

16) Panic (6237)
17) Ask (6249)
18) Barbarism Begins At Home (6767)
19) Rusholme Ruffians (6769)
20) Nowhere Fast (6775)

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Post by StevieFan13 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:56 pm

Henry wrote:1) There Is A Light that Never Goes Out (2303)
2) This Charming Man (2402)
3) Bigmouth Strikes Again (2608)
4) William, It Was Really Nothing (2590)
5) How Soon is Now (3559)
6) Hand in Glove (5035)
7) The Queen Is Dead (5145)
8) The Boy With the Thorn In His Side (5156)
9) I Know It's Over (5823)
10) Cemetry Gates (5829)
11) Girlfriend In a Coma (5843)
12) What Difference Does it Make (5845)
13) Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (5855)
14) Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me (6111)
15) Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (6206)

16) Panic (6237)
17) Ask (6249)
18) Barbarism Begins At Home (6767)
19) Rusholme Ruffians (6769)
20) Nowhere Fast (6775)
How are you so organized that you even know what your 2,402nd-favorite song is?
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Post by bootsy » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:00 pm

1. The Queen is Dead
2. William, It Was Really Nothing
3. How Soon is Now?
4. There is a Light That Never Goes Out
5. The Boy with the Thorn in His Side
6. Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Wasn't
7. Meat is Murder
8. Bigmouth Strikes Again
9. Hand in Glove
10. Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
11. I Know It's Over
12. Is It Really So Strange
13. This Charming Man
14. Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before
15. What Difference Does It Make?

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Post by Brad » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:38 pm

1 - Paint a Vulgar Picture
2 - How Soon Is Now?
3 - Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
4 - Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
5 - William, It Was Really Nothing
6 - Half A Person
7 - You Just Haven't Earned It Yet Baby
8 - Shoplifters Of The World Unite
9 - Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
10 - This Charming Man
11 - Is It Really So Strange?
12 - Panic
13 - A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours
14 - Rusholme Ruffians
15 - Reel Around The Fountain

All top 2078 for me.

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Post by DaveC » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:22 pm

1. I Know It’s Over
2. There Is a Light That Never Goes Out
3. The Boy with the Thorn in His Side
4. Last Night I Dreamt Somebody Love Me
5. This Charming Man
6. Cemetery Gates
7. Never Had No One Ever
8. Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now
9. Ask
10. I Started Something I Couldn't Finish
11. Bigmouth Strikes Again
12. Unhappy Birthday
13. Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before
14. Is It Really So Strange
15. Vicar in a Tutu

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Post by Henry » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:07 pm

StevieFan13 wrote:
Henry wrote:1) There Is A Light that Never Goes Out (2303)

How are you so organized that you even know what your 2,402nd-favorite song is?
At some point they are estimates rather than rankings.

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Post by Nick » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:24 am

I only have a top 500 songs of all time made up. If I managed to make a top 100, a good chunk of these would make the 501-1000 cut.

1. There is a Light That Never Goes Out (my #5 song of all time)
2. This Charming Man (my #38 song of all time)
3. How Soon Is Now? (my #148 song of all time)
4. Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
5. Panic
6. The Boy With the Thorn In His Side
7. Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
8. Girlfriend in a Coma
9. What Difference Does It Make?
10. That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore
11. Bigmouth Strikes Again
12. Ask
13. Hand in Glove
14. William, It Was Really Nothing
15. Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want

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Post by Live in Phoenix » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:58 am

A ranked list from my friend Robert Thale, in Greensboro, NC:

1 - William, It Was Really Nothing
2 - You've Got Everything Now
3 - Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before
4 - Stretch Out And Wait
5 - This Charming Man
6 - The Boy With The Thorn In His Side
7 - Well I Wonder
8 - Suffer Little Children
9 - I Don't Owe You Anything
10 - Girl Afraid

Neither of us had the Smiths on vinyl, but incidentally, both of our #1s were on the same 45 single.

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Post by StevieFan13 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:37 pm

One day left to submit lists!
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Post by Duncan Thaw » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:40 pm

1. How Soon Is Now?
2. Frankly, Mr Shankly
3. Unhappy Birthday
4. Cemetery Gates
5. Sweet And Tender Hooligan
6. Bigmouth Strikes Again
7. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
8. This Charming Man
9. Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
10. William, It Was Really Nothing
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Post by Pierre » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:50 pm

1. How Soon Is Now?
2. What Difference Does It Make?
3. William, It Was Really Nothing
4. Cemetry Gates
5. Barbarism Begins at Home
6. The Queen Is Dead
7. Reel Around the Fountain
8. Panic
9. Bigmouth Strikes Again
10. The Hand That Rocks the Cradle
11. The Boy with the Thorn in His Side
12. Ask
13. There Is a Light That Never Goes Out
14. Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before
15. Rusholme Ruffians

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Post by StevieFan13 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:55 pm

I'll wait another few hours so that any last-minute stragglers can get their picks in. Next one will be more efficient, I promise (though I am happy with There is a Light That Never Goes Out currently taking the top spot...as well it should).
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Post by StevieFan13 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:56 pm

- Unsurprisingly, The Queen is Dead swept this one, with 7 tracks in the top 30.
- Surprisingly, due to my imperfect scoring system, "How Soon is Now?" is only #5 (still wouldn't imagine it falling any lower), and the top 3 was an unpredictable horse race the whole time. But, in less of a surprise, one extra vote was all it took to put "There is a Light That Never Goes Out" in its rightful place at #1.
- Funnily enough, two of the songs Mojo classified as among the Smiths' worst, "Frankly Mr. Shankly" and "Unhappy Birthday," both made the cut. "Sheila Take a Bow" wasn't even on their list (which is wrong).
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Post by Live in Phoenix » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:11 am

Thanks StevieFan

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Post by Duncan Thaw » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:11 pm

Fun poll, but the results are rougher than I had realised at first. Initially I was surprised at The Boy With The Thorn In His Side outperforming How Soon Is Now?, so wondered who the biggest fans of the former were. Looking back over individual lists, only three lists rank The Boy ... the higher of the two songs, and no list omits them both.
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Post by StevieFan13 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:35 am

Duncan Thaw wrote:Fun poll, but the results are rougher than I had realised at first. Initially I was surprised at The Boy With The Thorn In His Side outperforming How Soon Is Now?, so wondered who the biggest fans of the former were. Looking back over individual lists, only three lists rank The Boy ... the higher of the two songs, and no list omits them both.
My ranking system was based on mentions, and the more lists that featured "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side," the higher it placed. Next one's going to be more about placement than about sorting them alphabetically (ultimately, "How Soon is Now?" featured on fewer lists than "The Boy...", even though it was always usually ranked high).
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