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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:19 am

8 albums updated. And ordinaryperson as the new #3 voter surpassing whuntva! Come on, ordinaryperson, let's rank, jamieW and me are waiting for you…
Some unusual results on the album of the week. It has been the first case so far of negative correlation, we chose the same Top 3 but with the order completely reversed. We also had the first case of a tie with the new rules, with "Lost in the Dream" and "In Reverse" tied on the eighth position with exactly the same votes on the same positions (one 6, two 8s and two 9s).

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Postby Honorio » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:37 pm

9 albums updated. And ordinaryperson getting closer!

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:39 pm

7 albums updated and 10 voters for "The Doors." You will have two weeks for voting for the next album ("Ramones") because I will be on a holiday trip to Scotland.

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:59 pm

These two weeks we have seen 7 updated albums (with a change on a #1 on "Modern Vampires of the City") and ordinaryperson joining jamieW and me as the only ones who have ranked all the albums (69 so far). Again you will have two weeks to vote for the next album ("Daydream Nation") because I'm leaving for the second part of my holidays, this time to Ibiza.

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:42 pm

Maybe we had an all-time low for this third edition of the Rank the Tracks game. During two weeks only two albums updated apart of the album of the week. August holidays or interest beginning to vanish (now that we're past two thirds of the game with 70 of 100 albums ranked)? Only time will tell…

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:36 pm

Nice turnout for Oasis, with 14 voters. I don't expect a nowhere near participation for Burial's "Untrue" despite the perfect timing, just on the first week of our 2007 Poll.

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:14 pm

In a couple of weeks we will have 75 albums ranked so maybe it's time to introduce some changes on the following albums looking for (possibly) more participation. Since now two albums have 4 people willing to participate (these were the rules I stated on this thread) I will include them on the next round, replacing the albums of its particular decades. The proposal of Henry to include a Steely Dan album as a tribute to Walter Becker got little following so far. So the next 4 weeks we will have:
74. The Who's Who's Next (1971)
75. R.E.M.'s Murmur (1983)
(closing with that the original plan)

76. A Tribe Called Quest's The Low End Theory (1991) replacing Radiohead's The Bends (1995)
77. Kanye West's The College Dropout (2004) replacing Arctic Monkeys' Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
(even if these changes are done to encourage participation I got my doubts about A Tribe Called Quest obtaining more participation than Radiohead but you never know…)

After this I will stop temporarily the game waiting for the main update to include the new incorporations on the first 7 positions of 1950s and 2010s and on the first 13 positions of the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s.

And after that I could include (as suggested by prosecutorgodot) the albums with a a higher position on our all-time list replacing the original ones that were:
78. Arcade Fire's The Suburbs (2010)
79. Ornette Coleman's The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
80. The Rolling Stones' Beggars Banquet (1968)
81. The Rolling Stones' Sticky Fingers (1971)
82. Paul Simon's Graceland (1986)
83. Pavement's Slanted and Enchanted (1992)
84. The White Stripes' White Blood Cells (2001)
85. The Rolling Stones' Let It Bleed (1969)
86. Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life (1976)
87. De La Soul's 3 Feet High and Rising (1989)
88. Eminem's The Marshal Mathers LP (2000)
89. St. Vincent's St. Vincent (2014)
90. The Crickets' The "Chirping" Crickets (1957)
91. James Brown's Live at the Apollo (1963)
92. Stevie Wonder's Innervisions (1973)
93. The Jesus and Mary Chain's Psychocandy (1985)
94. Oasis' Definitely Maybe (1994)
95. Animal Collective's Merryeweather Post Pavillion (2009)
96. Love's Forever Changes (1967)
97. Joni Mitchell's Blue (1971)
98. Pixies' Surfer Rosa (1988)
99. Wu-Tang Clan's Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)
100. Franz Ferdinand's Franz Ferdinand (2005)

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Listyguy » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:32 pm

Honorio wrote:I
76. A Tribe Called Quest's The Low End Theory (1991) replacing Radiohead's The Bends (1995)
(even if these changes are done to encourage participation I got my doubts about A Tribe Called Quest obtaining more participation than Radiohead but you never know…)

I have to agree with you, there's no way The Low End Theory will get more participation than The Bends.

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby bootsy » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:04 pm

Listyguy wrote:
Honorio wrote:I
76. A Tribe Called Quest's The Low End Theory (1991) replacing Radiohead's The Bends (1995)
(even if these changes are done to encourage participation I got my doubts about A Tribe Called Quest obtaining more participation than Radiohead but you never know…)

I have to agree with you, there's no way The Low End Theory will get more participation than The Bends.

I don't agree. People especially on here love ATCQ and love that album.

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Listyguy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:00 pm

bootsy wrote:
Listyguy wrote:
Honorio wrote:I
76. A Tribe Called Quest's The Low End Theory (1991) replacing Radiohead's The Bends (1995)
(even if these changes are done to encourage participation I got my doubts about A Tribe Called Quest obtaining more participation than Radiohead but you never know…)

I have to agree with you, there's no way The Low End Theory will get more participation than The Bends.

I don't agree. People especially on here love ATCQ and love that album.

Even so, Radiohead is one of the five most popular artists on this forum.

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby bootsy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:07 pm

Listyguy wrote:
bootsy wrote:
Listyguy wrote:I have to agree with you, there's no way The Low End Theory will get more participation than The Bends.

I don't agree. People especially on here love ATCQ and love that album.

Even so, Radiohead is one of the five most popular artists on this forum.

My point is people will respond to ATCQ's The Low End Theory too. Look I love Radiohead as much as the next person but The Low End Theory deserves a Rank The Tracks thread. Whether it gets more participation than The Bends who knows but people will participate in that album.

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:26 pm

A very good week with 12 albums updated (thanks mainly to Bruno, thank you!) and 14 voters for "Who's Next."

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:04 am

6 albums updated and 5 voters for the album of the week (the lowest participation so far, tied with The War on Drugs).
Next week we will have the 2010s highest ranked album on our own all-time Poll (not already ranked on Rank the Tracks). Blackstar? To Pimp a Butterfly?

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:53 pm

After the second album included by popular demand (and last, of the four people stating beforehand that will participate only one —Nassim— finally did) I've created a poll to know your pereferences about the possible remaining albums. I'll copy in this thread the options on this poll.

Since the update is not still available I decided to give the option to introduce albums on the last quarter part of the game that could be more "popular" among the Forum members using our last all-time poll (as suggested previously by prosecutorgodot) but following more or less the actual distribution by decades. I would like to know your opinion about three different options:

Option 1:

It would include the original planning (based on the official AM list) with some changes due to the inclusion of three albums by popular demand ("The Low End Theory," "The College Dropout" and "To Pimp a Butterfly"):

79. Ornette Coleman's The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
80. The Rolling Stones' Beggars Banquet (1968)
81. The Rolling Stones' Sticky Fingers (1971)
82. Paul Simon's Graceland (1986)
83. Radiohead's The Bends (1995)
84. Arctic Monkeys' Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
85. The Rolling Stones' Let It Bleed (1969)
86. Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life (1976)
87. De La Soul's 3 Feet High and Rising (1989)
88. Pavement's Slanted and Enchanted (1992)
89. The White Stripes' White Blood Cells (2001)
90. Arcade Fire's The Suburbs (2010)
91. The Crickets' The "Chirping" Crickets (1957)
92. James Brown's Live at the Apollo (1963)
93. Stevie Wonder's Innervisions (1973)
94. The Jesus and Mary Chain's Psychocandy (1985)
95. Oasis' Definitely Maybe (1994)
96. Eminem's The Marshal Mathers LP (2000)
97. Love's Forever Changes (1967)
98. Joni Mitchell's Blue (1971)
99. Pixies' Surfer Rosa (1988)
100. Wu-Tang Clan's Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)


The three albums out of the original planning (being displaced by the three albums I mentioned before) were:
90. St. Vincent's St. Vincent (2014) (#465 in our all-time list)
96. Animal Collective's Merryeweather Post Pavillion (2009) (#127)
100. The Flaming Lips' The Soft Bulletin (1999) (#146)


Option 2:

It would follow the same distribution by decades used so far but replacing the albums on the official main list for the ones ranked higher on our poll. The list would be:

79. Charles Mingus' Mingus Ah Um (1959)
80. The Rolling Stones' Let It Bleed (1969)
81. Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life (1976)
82. Tom Waits' Rain Dogs (1985)
83. Radiohead's The Bends (1995)
84. Coldplay's A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002)
85. Love's Forever Changes (1967)
86. Stevie Wonder's Innervisions (1973)
87. Paul Simon's Graceland (1986)
88. Pearl Jam's Ten (1991)
89. The White Stripes' White Blood Cells (2001)
90. David Bowie's ★ (2016)
91. Ornette Coleman's The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
92. The Rolling Stones' Beggars Banquet (1968)
93. Fleetwood Mac's Rumours (1977)
94. Bruce Springsteen's Born in the U.S.A. (1984)
95. Nirvana's In Utero (1993)
96. Arctic Monkeys' Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
97. The Zombies' Odessey & Oracle (1968)
98. David Bowie's Hunky Dory (1971)
99. The Cure's Disintegration (1989)
100. Björk's Post (1995)


The albums left out of the Option 1 list would be:
81. The Rolling Stones' Sticky Fingers (1971) (#43 in our all-time list)
87. De La Soul's 3 Feet High and Rising (1989) (#126)
88. Pavement's Slanted and Enchanted (1992) (#166)
90. Arcade Fire's The Suburbs (2010) (#88)
91. The Crickets' The "Chirping" Crickets (1957) (#569)
92. James Brown's Live at the Apollo (1963) (#328)
94. The Jesus and Mary Chain's Psychocandy (1985) (#287)
95. Oasis' Definitely Maybe (1994) (#115)
96. Eminem's The Marshal Mathers LP (2000) (#211)
98. Joni Mitchell's Blue (1971) (#63)
99. Pixies' Surfer Rosa (1988) (#177)
100. Wu-Tang Clan's Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993) (#112)


Option 3:

Since the 1950s albums usually have lower participation (we have ranked 6 1950s albums so far and only "Kind of Blue" had more than 10 voters) we can replace the two remaining 1950s album by the two albums not included on the option 2 that end higher on our all-time poll. This list would look like:

79. The Rolling Stones' Let It Bleed (1969)
80. Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life (1976)
81. Tom Waits' Rain Dogs (1985)
82. Radiohead's The Bends (1995)
83. Coldplay's A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002)
84. Love's Forever Changes (1967)
85. Stevie Wonder's Innervisions (1973)
86. Paul Simon's Graceland (1986)
87. Pearl Jam's Ten (1991)
88. The White Stripes' White Blood Cells (2001)
89. David Bowie's ★ (2016)
90. The Rolling Stones' Beggars Banquet (1968)
91. Fleetwood Mac's Rumours (1977)
92. Bruce Springsteen's Born in the U.S.A. (1984)
93. Nirvana's In Utero (1993)
94. Arctic Monkeys' Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
95. The Zombies' Odessey & Oracle (1968)
96. David Bowie's Hunky Dory (1971)
97. The Cure's Disintegration (1989)
98. Björk's Post (1995)
99. The Rolling Stones' Sticky Fingers (1971)
100. Simon & Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water (1970)


The albums left out of the Option 2 list would be:
79. Charles Mingus' Mingus Ah Um (1959) (#475 in our all-time list)
91. Ornette Coleman's The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959) (#477)


Note (and minor spoiler): the only positions that could change later are the two Stevie Wonder albums on options 2 and 3, it depends on the final positions they achieve on our all-time poll. I'll edit those positions later if needed.

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:08 am

To my surprise "To Pimp a Butterfly" has been the album with less participation so far (only four people voting during the first week) despite being perceived as a forum favourite. Hopefully some of the album fans will vote during the next weeks. Hey, people, 32 of you voted for the album for the all-time poll, 20 of you even have it on your all time Top 100. Wouldn't you mind to participate on Rank the Tracks?

About the result of the poll we are going to continue finally with Option 2 using the positions of the albums on our all-time poll instead the official AM list. The next albums will be:
79. Charles Mingus' Mingus Ah Um (1959)
80. The Rolling Stones' Let It Bleed (1969)
81. Stevie Wonder's Innervisions (1973)
82. Tom Waits' Rain Dogs (1985)
83. Radiohead's The Bends (1995)
84. Coldplay's A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002)
85. Love's Forever Changes (1967)
86. Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life (1976)
87. Paul Simon's Graceland (1986)
88. Pearl Jam's Ten (1991)
89. The White Stripes' White Blood Cells (2001)
90. David Bowie's ★ (2016)
91. Ornette Coleman's The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
92. The Rolling Stones' Beggars Banquet (1968)
93. Fleetwood Mac's Rumours (1977)
94. Bruce Springsteen's Born in the U.S.A. (1984)
95. Nirvana's In Utero (1993)
96. Arctic Monkeys' Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
97. The Zombies' Odessey & Oracle (1968)
98. David Bowie's Hunky Dory (1971)
99. The Cure's Disintegration (1989)
100. Björk's Post (1995)

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:40 am

Again a low participation for the album of the week (although it was expectable). On the other hand we had 4 albums updated thanks to Listyguy, two of them with significant changes, "Fools Gold" is now the critics' #1 with a lower rating by us (tied with "Fables of Faubus" from this week's album) and "King Kunta" is now the new #1 for us. "King Kunta" replaced "How Much a Dollar Cost" as the lowest ranked #1 so far and the first one without any #1 vote. On the other hand "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" entered directly on the Top 10.

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Postby Honorio » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:12 am

6 updated albums and two new #1s, "Better Git in Your Soul" replaced "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" at the top of "Mingus Ah Um" and "Where It's At" regained the top position on "Odelay."
And, as expected, "Gimme Shelter" entered directly the Top 5.

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Postby Honorio » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:14 am

7 albums updated with a new #1, "Jesus Walks" overtaking "Spaceship" on "The College Dropout." And an excellent participation on the album of the week, 16 people ranked "Innervisions."

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Postby Honorio » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:55 pm

This week I've made a massive update on the results of Rank the Tracks (especially on the correlation with the critics list) because of the main AM update.

First of all the changes on the positions of the albums on the main AM list would have changed some of the albums to rank in the future if the Option 1 on the last poll would have been elected. If we we have chosen to follow the albums from the update instead the albums of our all time poll the list would be:
83. Radiohead's The Bends (1995)
84. Arctic Monkeys' Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
85. The Rolling Stones' Beggars Banquet (1968)
86. Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life (1976)
87. Paul Simon's Graceland (1986)
88. Oasis' Definitely Maybe (1994)
89. The White Stripes' White Blood Cells (2001)
90. Arcade Fire's The Suburbs (2010)
91. Ornette Coleman's The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959)
92. James Brown's Live at the Apollo (1963)
93. The Rolling Stones' Sticky Fingers (1971)
94. De La Soul's 3 Feet High and Rising (1989)
95. Nirvana's In Utero (1993)
96. Eminem's The Marshal Mathers LP (2000)
97. Love's Forever Changes (1967)
98. Joni Mitchell's Blue (1971)
99. The Jesus and Mary Chain's Psychocandy (1985)
100. Wu-Tang Clan's Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)

The albums displaced from the Option 1 that lose the poll would have been:
88. Pavement's Slanted and Enchanted (1992)
91. The Crickets' The "Chirping" Crickets (1957)
99. Pixies' Surfer Rosa (1988)

The albums displaced from the Option 2 that got more votes would have been:
84. Coldplay's A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002)
88. Pearl Jam's Ten (1991)
90. David Bowie's ★ (2016)
93. Fleetwood Mac's Rumours (1977)
94. Bruce Springsteen's Born in the U.S.A. (1984)
97. The Zombies' Odessey & Oracle (1968)
98. David Bowie's Hunky Dory (1971)
99. The Cure's Disintegration (1989)
100. Björk's Post (1995)

Having said that I got no plans of going back to the official AM order or doing another poll, so I think I'll stick to the albums of the Option 2. You only need to scroll up on this same thread to see which albums will be next.


And about the changes on this week:

1. We have a new #1 for "To Pimp a Butterfly," "The Blacker the Berry." Every week brings a new number one for this album.

2. Almost every album ranked so far changed the correlation with the critics list with the new update. The only albums without any change on the critics' ranking were:
- What's Going On
- Is This It
- Remain in Light (yes, "The Great Curve" is still absent on the AM list).
- In the Wee Small Hours
- Endtroducing.....
- Stankonia
- Screamadelica
- Untrue
- Murmur
- The College Dropout
- Innervisions
So the other 71 albums had changes on the critics rankings and on our correlations with them. You can check the new correlations on the results thread.

3. On the other side 5 albums got now all their songs by the critics:
- Kind of Blue
- The Velvet Underground & Nico
- Grace
- Led Zeppelin IV
- Let It Bleed

4. Oddly this huge change on the rankings only rendered a new number 1 for the critics, on Vampire Weekend's "Modern Vampires of the City" where "Hannah Hunt" replaced "Step." Another change came at the top of "Rain Dogs" ("Downtown Rain" overtaking "Jockey Full of Bourbon") but it didn't affect the correlation being our album of the week.

5. The new rankings reduced significantly the correlations with our lists. For instance, previously we had 14 albums with an exact correlation between the acclaimed songs and our rankings but now we only have 7, which are:
- What's Going On
- Illinois
- Songs for Swingin' Lovers!
- Time Out
- Untrue
- Murmur
- The Low End Theory

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Re: Rank the Tracks Open 24/7: questions, comments and stats

Postby Honorio » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:11 am

5 albums updated (mainly thanks to Romain) and 13 voters for the album of the week. A relatively calm week after the crazy previous week.

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Postby Honorio » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:38 am

Only two albums updated but a decent participation on the albums of the week.

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Postby Honorio » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:33 am

And now Listyguy is the fourth voter with more albums ranked!


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