The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Pierre » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:17 pm

Thanks for all the hard work, Jimmy, it was very appreciated. And thanks BleuPanda for his contributions. Even with the occasional bitterness, it was globally a pleasure to follow. Small personal satisfaction: Radiohead remained out of the top 3, and Bowie is a great #2. I only wish Prince, A Tribe Called Quest and Jefferson Airplane had also benefitted from their passing in the votes. Better yet, I wish they had not passed away at all and were here to enjoy their rankings with us. R.I.P. all you guys.

This whole fishy votes is bugging me though. Maybe some investigation is in order.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby BleuPanda » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:20 pm

The Marvin Gaye Lists:



Those who did vote for Marvin Gaye:
1. Beatles
2. Bob Dylan
3. David Bowie
4. Rolling Stones
5. Stevie Wonder
6. Bruce Springsteen
7. Beach Boys
8. Radiohead
9. Led Zeppelin
10. Prince
11. Michael Jackson
12. R.E.M.
13. Marvin Gaye
14. Pink Floyd
15. Smiths
16. Jimi Hendrix
17. U2
18. Who
19. Bob Marley
20. Miles Davis
21. Simon & Garfunkel
22. Queen
23. Velvet Underground
24. Cure
25. Elvis Presley
26. Arcade Fire
27. Kanye West
28. Clash
29. Neil Young
30. Nirvana
31. Elvis Costello
32. Madonna
33. Talking Heads
34. Bjork
35. Kinks
36. James Brown
37. Kraftwerk
38. Elton John
39. Tom Waits
40. Pixies
41. John Coltrane
42. Blur
43. LCD Soundsystem
44. Aretha Franklin
45. Public Enemy
46. Kendrick Lamar
47. Creedence Clearwater Revival
48. Fleetwood Mac
49. Steely Dan
50. OutKast
51. ABBA
52. Doors
53. Frank Sinatra
54. Ray Charles
55. Paul Simon
56. Bee Gees
57. Johnny Cash
58. PJ Harvey
59. Joni Mitchell
60. Sly & The Family Stone
61. Leonard Cohen
62. Daft Punk
63. Van Morrison
64. Billie Holiday
65. Nick Cave
66. Police
67. Brian Eno
68. John Lennon
69. Coldplay
70. Beastie Boys
71. Eagles
72. Chuck Berry
73. Oasis
74. Otis Redding
75. Paul McCartney
76. Green Day
77. Jacques Brel
78. New Order
79. Nina Simone
80. Sufjan Stevens
81. Kate Bush
82. White Stripes
83. Louis Armstrong
84. Smashing Pumpkins
85. Beck
86. Pearl Jam
87. Depeche Mode
88. Funkadelic/Parliament
89. Ella Fitzgerald
90. Joy Division
91. Whitney Houston
92. Billy Joel
93. Vampire Weekend
94. Sam Cooke
95. Wilco
96. Serge Gainsbourg
97. Lou Reed
98. Black Sabbath
99. Red Hot Chili Peppers
100. Stooges
101. Massive Attack
102. Guns N' Roses
103. Byrds
104. Duke Ellington
105. Supremes
106. Dusty Springfield
107. Aerosmith
108. My Bloody Valentine
109. Buddy Holly
110. Todd Rundgren
111. National
112. Portishead
113. Roy Orbison
114. Nick Drake
115. Al Green
116. M.I.A.
117. Nine Inch Nails
118. Yes
119. Weezer
120. Carole King
121. Curtis Mayfield
122. Foo Fighters
123. Temptations
124. Fela Kuti
125. Roxy Music
126. Sonic Youth
127. Eminem
128. XTC
129. Barbra Streisand
130. Elliott Smith
131. Jackson 5
132. Notorious B.I.G.
133. Jay-Z
134. Charles Mingus
135. Jam
136. Lana Del Rey
137. Gorillaz
138. AC/DC
139. George Harrison
140. Santana
141. Blondie
142. Eric Clapton
143. Donna Summer
144. Grimes
145. Flaming Lips
146. Tribe Called Quest
147. Roots
148. James Taylor
149. Ramones
150. Little Richard
151. Frank Zappa
152. Cat Stevens
153. Belle and Sebastian
154. Arctic Monkeys
155. Adele
156. Low
157. Jeff Buckley
158. Rush
159. Metallica
160. Carpenters
161. Pet Shop Boys
162. Swans
163. Jackson Browne
164. King Crimson
165. Lynyrd Skynyrd
166. Journey
167. Wu-Tang Clan
168. Janelle Monae
169. Style Council
170. Fleet Foxes
171. Boards of Canada
172. Gillian Welch
173. Stone Roses
174. Stereolab
175. Strokes
176. Beyonce
177. Big Star
178. George Michael
179. Bill Evans
180. Muse
181. Fall
182. Mizell Brothers
183. Underworld
184. Nas
185. Hank Williams
186. Patti Smith
187. Zombies
188. Christina Aguilera
189. Mariah Carey
190. Caetano Veloso
191. Scott Walker
192. Diana Ross
193. Tina Turner
194. Sigur Rós
195. Janet Jackson
196. Antonio Carlos Jobim
197. Decemberists
198. Newsboys
199. KPM All-Stars
200. Thrice


Those who did not vote for Marvin Gaye:
1. Beatles
2. Radiohead
3. David Bowie
4. Bob Dylan
5. Velvet Underground
6. Rolling Stones
7. R.E.M.
8. Bjork
9. Pink Floyd
10. Arcade Fire
11. Bruce Springsteen
12. Smiths
13. Prince
14. Michael Jackson
15. Led Zeppelin
16. Nirvana
17. Kanye West
18. U2
19. Cure
20. Tom Waits
21. Brian Eno
22. Pixies
23. Sufjan Stevens
24. Neil Young
25. Stevie Wonder
26. Talking Heads
27. Kate Bush
28. National
29. Madonna
30. LCD Soundsystem
31. Beach Boys
32. Portishead
33. Clash
34. Belle and Sebastian
35. Nick Cave
36. White Stripes
37. Kinks
38. Jimi Hendrix
39. Queen
40. Elliott Smith
41. King Crimson
42. Simon & Garfunkel
43. Joy Division
44. PJ Harvey
45. Sigur Rós
46. Joni Mitchell
47. Pavement
48. Doors
49. Beck
50. Who
51. OutKast
52. Sonic Youth
53. Wilco
54. John Coltrane
55. Joanna Newsom
56. Pearl Jam
57. Gorillaz
58. Nick Drake
59. Miles Davis
60. New Order
61. Smashing Pumpkins
62. Elvis Costello
63. Leonard Cohen
64. Coldplay
65. Guns N' Roses
66. Oasis
67. Red Hot Chili Peppers
68. Daft Punk
69. Elvis Presley
70. Cocteau Twins
71. Van Morrison
72. Aerosmith
73. Black Sabbath
74. Elton John
75. Kendrick Lamar
76. Blur
77. Depeche Mode
78. Fleetwood Mac
79. My Bloody Valentine
80. Bee Gees
81. Built To Spill
82. Johnny Cash
83. Kraftwerk
84. Jacques Brel
85. Flaming Lips
86. Green Day
87. Scott Walker
88. Mercury Rev
89. Vampire Weekend
90. Frank Zappa
91. Frank Ocean
92. Serge Gainsbourg
93. Metallica
94. Roxy Music
95. Modest Mouse
96. Lana Del Rey
97. Zombies
98. Super Furry Animals
99. Lou Reed
100. Can
101. Linkin Park
102. Arctic Monkeys
103. Sleater-Kinney
104. TV on the Radio
105. Robert Wyatt
106. St. Vincent
107. Frank Sinatra
108. Deerhunter
109. Animal Collective
110. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
111. Genesis
112. Julia Holter
113. Massive Attack
114. Bob Marley
115. Bon Jovi
116. Lush
117. Foo Fighters
118. Eminem
119. Janet Jackson
120. Mogwai
121. Beastie Boys
122. Public Enemy
123. Phil Collins
124. Queens of the Stone Age
125. Aphex Twin
126. Nina Simone
127. Captain Beefheart
128. Fela Kuti
129. Divine Comedy
130. Pulp
131. Charles Mingus
132. Tori Amos
133. Knife
134. Yes
135. Primal Scream
136. Spiritualized
137. Lady Gaga
138. Wire
139. Interpol
140. Tim Buckley
141. Police
142. Blondie
143. Replacements
144. Patti Smith
145. Justin Timberlake
146. Jeff Buckley
147. Sun Ra
148. Tindersticks
149. Low
150. Cranberries
151. Britney Spears
152. Bon Iver
153. Creedence Clearwater Revival
154. Strokes
155. Manic Street Preachers
156. Beyonce
157. Billie Holiday
158. Drake
159. DJ Shadow
160. Faust
161. Stone Roses
162. Eurythmics
163. John Cage
164. Siouxsie & The Banshees
165. Eels
166. Jam
167. Swans
168. Weezer
169. ABBA
170. Camera Obscura
171. Love
172. Georges Brassens
173. Fugazi
174. Small Faces
175. Band
176. Pere Ubu
177. Decemberists
178. Robyn
179. Moody Blues
180. Blink 182
181. Taylor Swift
182. Four Tet
183. Wu-Tang Clan
184. Aretha Franklin
185. Boards of Canada
186. Grimes
187. Ennio Morricone
188. Janelle Monae
189. Lighthouse Family
190. Beta Band
191. Stooges
192. Guided by Voices
193. Spoon
194. Beach House
195. Kylie Minogue
196. System of a Down
197. Alain Bashung
198. Duran Duran
199. Sting
200. Hot Chip

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Sweepstakes Ron » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:22 pm

Eh, I don't find them that fishy. Their lists reasonably seem like what I would get from asking someone on the street (on the off chance they made one in the first place), they only seem out of place because of the fact that they're on a music forum. Perhaps they've only recently discovered AM and are looking to expand their horizons, but still wanted to participate in the poll anyway.

EDIT: for clarity, I'm referring to the "lurkers" who voted
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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby PlasticRam » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:24 pm

Sweepstakes Ron wrote:Eh, I don't find them that fishy. Their lists reasonably seem like what I would get from asking someone on the street (on the off chance they made one in the first place), they only seem out of place because of the fact that they're on a music forum. Perhaps they've only recently discovered AM and are looking to expand their horizons, but still wanted to participate in the poll anyway.

Yeah I agree tbh.
I feel like that

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby BleuPanda » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:24 pm

The top 50 according to those who did not vote for the Beatles (Jeff, Gillingham, Moonbeam, luney6, renan_antonio, and notbrianeno):
1. Bjork
2. Radiohead
3. David Bowie
4. Bob Dylan
5. Rolling Stones
6. Tom Waits
7. Prince
8. Velvet Underground
9. Stevie Wonder
10. Michael Jackson
11. Bruce Springsteen
12. John Coltrane
13. Kanye West
14. Van Morrison
15. Cure
16. Joanna Newsom
17. King Crimson
18. Miles Davis
19. Doors
20. Boards of Canada
21. LCD Soundsystem
22. Sun Ra
23. OutKast
24. Autechre
25. National
26. Madonna
27t. Queen
27t. Frank Zappa
27t. Eurythmics
27t. John Cage
31. Pearl Jam
32. Brian Eno
33. PJ Harvey
34. Pink Floyd
35. Sufjan Stevens
36. Kendrick Lamar
37t. Bee Gees
37t. Billie Holiday
37t. Low
40. Roxy Music
41. Beach House
42. Nick Cave
43t. Fela Kuti
43t. Janet Jackson
43t. Lisa Germano
46. Red House Painters
47t. Creedence Clearwater Revival
47t. Mercury Rev
47t. Boyz II Men
47t. Derrick May

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Listyguy » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:25 pm

Much thanks for running this poll, Jimmy! It was really incredible all the way through.

On some of the sub lists that are coming down the pipe now, I have to say I really love the Marvin Gaye list :music-listening:

Also, for as much as some have complained about the under 25 posts crowd "ruining" the results, I really only have one complaint with their sub list: Linkin Park in the top 20. That's just wrong.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Live in Phoenix » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:35 pm

Thank you, JimmyJazz, and take a very well-deserved break.

Last of my ratings:

Linkin Park: 2.5

the new 93. Aerosmith: 7

25. The Who: 8
24. Queen: 7.5
23. Nirvana: 10
22. Simon & Garfunkel: 7
21. Kanye West: 8.5
20. Jimi Hendrix: 8.5
19. The Cure: 7
18. Arcade Fire: 7
17. U2: 9
16. Bjork: 7
15. The Smiths: 8.5
14. Pink Floyd: 8.5
13. Michael Jackson: 9
12. The Beach Boys: 7
11. The Velvet Underground: 9
10. Led Zeppelin: 9
9. Prince: 9.5
8. Stevie Wonder: 8
7. R.E.M.: 9.5
6. Bruce Springsteen: 10
5. The Rolling Stones: 10
4. Radiohead: 9
3. Bob Dylan: 10
2. David Bowie: 9.5
1. The Beatles: 10
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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby BleuPanda » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:40 pm

The BleuPanda list, or, what this would have looked like if I ran it (using a modified formula of the one I used last year):

Basically, when you run these polls, you have to create a formula that links all these votes together. Part of what you have to do is adjust the number until you get the right values, usually along a curve. In simple terms to understand what I did here:
A #1 vote using either Jimmy's or my own method gets 100 points
Under Jimmy's method, a #100 gets 4.46 points, which doesn't do much of anything
I lessened the curve a bit, where #100 gets 10 points
I feel like the curve being too steep causes our results to lean too much toward the top of our lists, essentially making a #100 placement worthless. Using a less steep curve also leads to more 'consensus;' for example, we go from everyone's top 14 making it in automatically to everyone's top 11. I have included the numbers to show relative placement between our two formulas; a positive number is a gain on my formula, a negative is a loss with my formula.


Part of this is just to show how a little adjustment can entirely change the results. Even the host's methods can change how well your favorite band does.


1. Beatles (Change: 0)
2. David Bowie (Change: 0)
3. Bob Dylan (Change: 0)
4. Radiohead (Change: 0)
5. Rolling Stones (Change: 0)
6. Bruce Springsteen (Change: 0)
7. R.E.M. (Change: 0)
8. Stevie Wonder (Change: 0)
9. Velvet Underground (Change: 2)
10. Prince (Change: -1)
11. Led Zeppelin (Change: -1)
12. Beach Boys (Change: 0)
13. Michael Jackson (Change: 0)
14. Pink Floyd (Change: 0)
15. Smiths (Change: 0)
16. Bjork (Change: 0)
17. U2 (Change: 0)
18. Arcade Fire (Change: 0)
19. Cure (Change: 0)
20. Jimi Hendrix (Change: 0)
21. Nirvana (Change: 1)
22. Kanye West (Change: -1)
23. Simon & Garfunkel (Change: 0)
24. Who (Change: 1)
25. Neil Young (Change: 1)
26. Queen (Change: -2)
27. Miles Davis (Change: 0)
28. Clash (Change: 0)
29. Talking Heads (Change: 0)
30. Tom Waits (Change: 0)
31. Madonna (Change: 0)
32. Pixies (Change: 0)
33. Bob Marley (Change: 0)
34. Elvis Presley (Change: 0)
35. Kinks (Change: 0)
36. Marvin Gaye (Change: 0)
37. Elvis Costello (Change: 0)
38. LCD Soundsystem (Change: 1)
39. Brian Eno (Change: -1)
40. John Coltrane (Change: 0)
41. Kraftwerk (Change: 1)
42. Sufjan Stevens (Change: 1)
43. Elton John (Change: -2)
44. Doors (Change: 2)
45. PJ Harvey (Change: -1)
46. Nick Cave (Change: -1)
47. Joni Mitchell (Change: 0)
48. OutKast (Change: 1)
49. Kate Bush (Change: -1)
50. Blur (Change: 0)
51. Kendrick Lamar (Change: 1)
52. Leonard Cohen (Change: 1)
53. Fleetwood Mac (Change: 1)
54. James Brown (Change: 1)
55. White Stripes (Change: -4)
56. Daft Punk (Change: 4)
57. Johnny Cash (Change: 2)
58. Joy Division (Change: -2)
59. Beck (Change: 3)
60. National (Change: -2)
61. New Order (Change: 3)
62. Coldplay (Change: -1)
63. Bee Gees (Change: -6)
64. Oasis (Change: 1)
65. Van Morrison (Change: -2)
66. Portishead (Change: 1)
67. Pearl Jam (Change: -1)
68. Smashing Pumpkins (Change: 0)
69. Public Enemy (Change: 0)
70. Frank Sinatra (Change: 0)
71. Creedence Clearwater Revival (Change: 2)
72. Wilco (Change: -1)
73. Aretha Franklin (Change: 1)
74. Elliott Smith (Change: -2)
75. Belle and Sebastian (Change: 0)
76. Police (Change: 11)
77. Depeche Mode (Change: 0)
78. ABBA (Change: 2)
79. Nick Drake (Change: 3)
80. Green Day (Change: -2)
81. Jacques Brel (Change: -5)
82. Beastie Boys (Change: 2)
83. Sonic Youth (Change: 0)
84. King Crimson (Change: -5)
85. Black Sabbath (Change: 3)
86. Guns N' Roses (Change: -5)
87. Red Hot Chili Peppers (Change: -2)
88. Sigur Rós (Change: 1)
89. Gorillaz (Change: 2)
90. Steely Dan (Change: -4)
91. Billie Holiday (Change: -1)
92. Aerosmith (Change: 2)
93. Ray Charles (Change: 0)
94. Vampire Weekend (Change: -2)
95. Nina Simone (Change: 1)
96. My Bloody Valentine (Change: 1)
97. Paul Simon (Change: -2)
98. Serge Gainsbourg (Change: 0)
99. John Lennon (Change: 1)
100. Lou Reed (Change: 1)
101. Pavement (Change: -2)
102. Sly & The Family Stone (Change: 0)
103. Otis Redding (Change: 2)
104. Chuck Berry (Change: 0)
105. Massive Attack (Change: 1)
106. Flaming Lips (Change: 1)
107. Joanna Newsom (Change: -4)
108. Roxy Music (Change: 0)
109. Funkadelic/Parliament (Change: 2)
110. Eagles (Change: 0)
111. Paul McCartney (Change: -2)
112. Metallica (Change: 2)
113. Frank Zappa (Change: -1)
114. Arctic Monkeys (Change: 4)
115. Eminem (Change: 2)
116. Lana Del Rey (Change: -3)
117. Foo Fighters (Change: -2)
118. Scott Walker (Change: -2)
119. Stooges (Change: 4)
120. Cocteau Twins (Change: 0)
121. Fela Kuti (Change: 0)
122. Zombies (Change: 3)
123. Whitney Houston (Change: -1)
124. Louis Armstrong (Change: 0)
125. Ella Fitzgerald (Change: 1)
126. Yes (Change: -7)
127. Charles Mingus (Change: 0)
128. Byrds (Change: 1)
129. Blondie (Change: 4)
130. Billy Joel (Change: 1)
131. Sam Cooke (Change: 14)
132. Frank Ocean (Change: 0)
133. Weezer (Change: -3)
134. Al Green (Change: 0)
135. Genesis (Change: 1)
136. Linkin Park (Change: -8)
137. Jam (Change: -2)
138. Duke Ellington (Change: 8)
139. Strokes (Change: 14)
140. Grimes (Change: 9)
141. Jeff Buckley (Change: -2)
142. TV on the Radio (Change: -4)
143. Can (Change: -2)
144. Aphex Twin (Change: -1)
145. XTC (Change: 6)
146. Beyonce (Change: 10)
147. Janet Jackson (Change: -10)
148. Nine Inch Nails (Change: -4)
149. M.I.A. (Change: 6)
150. Ramones (Change: 25)
151. Stone Roses (Change: 6)
152. AC/DC (Change: 9)
153. Super Furry Animals (Change: -5)
154. Patti Smith (Change: 0)
155. Godspeed You! Black Emperor (Change: -8)
156. Swans (Change: -4)
157. Low (Change: -17)
158. Bon Jovi (Change: -16)
159. Janelle Monae (Change: 5)
160. Primal Scream (Change: 10)
161. Roy Orbison (Change: 13)
162. Knife (Change: -2)
163. Supremes (Change: 8)
164. Curtis Mayfield (Change: 17)
165. Buddy Holly (Change: 22)
166. Jay-Z (Change: 6)
167. Built To Spill (Change: -17)
168. Jackson 5 (Change: -9)
169. Mercury Rev (Change: -11)
170. Bon Iver (Change: 12)
171. Wu-Tang Clan (Change: -8)
172. Animal Collective (Change: -4)
173. Tim Buckley (Change: -6)
174. Dusty Springfield (Change: -8)
175. Boards of Canada (Change: -10)
176. Temptations (Change: 9)
177. Phil Collins (Change: -15)
178. George Michael (Change: 18)
179. Donna Summer (Change: 5)
180. Replacements (Change: 23)
181. Fleet Foxes (Change: 2)
182. Julia Holter (Change: -6)
183. Journey (Change: -14)
184. Band (Change: 9)
185. Sun Ra (Change: -12)
186. Muse (Change: 4)
187. Adele (Change: 2)
188. Britney Spears (Change: -10)
189. Fall (Change: -9)
190. Stereolab (Change: -2)
191. Beach House (Change: 3)
192. Decemberists (Change: -15)
193. Rush (Change: -2)
194. Ennio Morricone (Change: 10)
195. Captain Beefheart (Change: -16)
196. Pulp (Change: 11)
197. St. Vincent (Change: 0)
198. Carole King (Change: -12)
199. Big Star (Change: 16)
200. Eurythmics (Change: 0)
201. Modest Mouse (Change: -9)
202. Eric Clapton (Change: -3)
203. Pet Shop Boys (Change: -1)
204. Robert Wyatt (Change: -9)
205. Deerhunter (Change: 3)
206. Sleater-Kinney (Change: -5)
207. Todd Rundgren (Change: -9)
208. Cat Stevens (Change: 4)
209. Moody Blues (Change: -4)
210. Lady Gaga (Change: -1)
211. Tribe Called Quest (Change: -1)
212. Tom Petty (Change: 28)
213. Monkees (Change: -7)
214. Peter Gabriel (Change: 37)
215. Duran Duran (Change: 6)
216. Roots (Change: -5)
217. Prefab Sprout (Change: 2)
218. Eels (Change: 7)
219. Hank Williams (Change: 18)
220. Mariah Carey (Change: -3)
221. Tindersticks (Change: -8)
222. Blink 182 (Change: -8)
223. Spiritualized (Change: 5)
224. Manic Street Preachers (Change: -1)
225. Love (Change: 18)
226. Jesus and Mary Chain (Change: -10)
227. Mogwai (Change: -5)
228. Santana (Change: 8)
229. Notorious B.I.G. (Change: 1)
230. Queens of the Stone Age (Change: 1)
231. Magnetic Fields (Change: 2)
232. James Taylor (Change: -14)
233. Barbra Streisand (Change: -13)
234. Drake (Change: -7)
235. Carpenters (Change: -1)
236. Yo La Tengo (Change: -4)
237. Tori Amos (Change: -13)
238. Talk Talk (Change: 44)
239. Alain Bashung (Change: -10)
240. Echo & The Bunnymen (Change: 22)
241. George Harrison (Change: -6)
242. Divine Comedy (Change: 0)
243. Jorge Ben (Change: 7)
244. Justin Timberlake (Change: -6)
245. Little Richard (Change: 4)
246. Van Halen (Change: -2)
247. Lynyrd Skynyrd (Change: 5)
248. DJ Shadow (Change: -9)
249. Lush (Change: -23)
250. Interpol (Change: -3)
251. Astor Piazzolla (Change: 7)
252. Sade (Change: -4)
253. Cream (Change: 25)
254. Spoon (Change: 11)
255. Ornette Coleman (Change: -9)
256. Deep Purple (Change: 13)
257. T. Rex (Change: 24)
258. Tears For Fears (Change: 22)
259. Sting (Change: -18)
260. Amy Winehouse (Change: 26)
261. Janis Joplin (Change: 3)
262. Faust (Change: -5)
263. Wire (Change: -8)
264. Burial (Change: 9)
265. Four Tet (Change: -20)
266. Air (Change: 34)
267. Maroon 5 (Change: -4)
268. Neutral Milk Hotel (Change: 6)
269. Guided by Voices (Change: -16)
270. Caetano Veloso (Change: 18)
271. Bryan Adams (Change: -17)
272. Christina Aguilera (Change: -12)
273. Edith Piaf (Change: 16)
274. Pretenders (Change: 5)
275. Gillian Welch (Change: -19)
276. Jackson Browne (Change: -17)
277. Soundgarden (Change: 7)
278. Television (Change: 5)
279. Death Grips (Change: -13)
280. Siouxsie & The Banshees (Change: -19)
281. Black Eyed Peas (Change: -5)
282. Cranberries (Change: -11)
283. Avril Lavigne (Change: 2)
284. Robyn (Change: 3)
285. Ride (Change: -8)
286. Rod Stewart (Change: 47)
287. Georges Brassens (Change: -15)
288. Taylor Swift (Change: 8)
289. Smokey Robinson (Change: 26)
290. Style Council (Change: -23)
291. Madlib (Change: -23)
292. Fugazi (Change: 18)
293. D'Angelo (Change: -18)
294. Verve (Change: 32)
295. Os Mutantes (Change: 6)
296. Steve Reich (Change: -5)
297. Autechre (Change: -27)
298. Tina Turner (Change: 7)
299. Kylie Minogue (Change: -1)
300. Avalanches (Change: 50)
301. Saint Etienne (Change: 2)
302. NEU! (Change: 5)
303. Tame Impala (Change: 16)
304. Jack Johnson (Change: -7)
305. Chicago (Change: -6)
306. Garbage (Change: 33)
307. Bill Evans (Change: -17)
308. Rihanna (Change: 59)
309. Everly Brothers (Change: 34)
310. Fiona Apple (Change: 18)
311. B-52s (Change: 37)
312. Ghostface Killah (Change: 19)
313. M83 (Change: 3)
314. De La Soul (Change: 15)
315. Bob Seger (Change: 10)
316. Alanis Morissette (Change: -8)
317. Pere Ubu (Change: 3)
318. Herbie Hancock (Change: -1)
319. Black Keys (Change: 4)
320. Antonio Carlos Jobim (Change: -11)
321. Antony And The Johnsons (Change: 47)
322. Diana Ross (Change: -18)
323. Crowded House (Change: -17)
324. Mizell Brothers (Change: -32)
325. Underworld (Change: -32)
326. John Cage (Change: -32)
327. Nas (Change: -32)
328. Grizzly Bear (Change: 21)
329. Erykah Badu (Change: 1)
330. Sarah McLachlan (Change: -8)
331. Camera Obscura (Change: -29)
332. Mac DeMarco (Change: -14)
333. Dire Straits (Change: 20)
334. Hot Chip (Change: -10)
335. Red House Painters (Change: -14)
336. Sex Pistols (Change: 20)
337. Eric B. & Rakim (Change: -5)
338. Allman Brothers Band (Change: 16)
339. Chance the Rapper (Change: 7)
340. Teenage Fanclub (Change: 5)
341. Joe Hisaishi (Change: -14)
342. Boo Radleys (Change: -8)
343. Newsboys (Change: -32)
344. KPM All-Stars (Change: -32)
345. Thrice (Change: -32)
346. Small Faces (Change: -32)
347. Run-DMC (Change: 16)
348. Morrissey (Change: 22)
349. Go-Betweens (Change: -7)
350. Beta Band (Change: -12)
351. Florence + The Machine (Change: -4)
352. Blue Oyster Cult (Change: 12)
353. System of a Down (Change: -9)
354. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (Change: 57)
355. Real Estate (Change: -15)
356. Hall and Oates (Change: -5)
357. Missy Elliott (Change: -5)
358. Thelonious Monk (Change: 71)
359. Tool (Change: -18)
360. Lucinda Williams (Change: 9)
361. Alice in Chains (Change: -6)
362. Lighthouse Family (Change: -27)
363. Sixto Rodriguez (Change: -27)
364. Igor Stravinsky (Change: -27)
365. Killers (Change: 36)
366. Amon Duul II (Change: -1)
367. Lenny Kravitz (Change: 30)
368. Cyndi Lauper (Change: 60)
369. 3 Doors Down (Change: 10)
370. Robert Johnson (Change: 29)
371. Rage against the Machine (Change: 19)
372. Goldfrapp (Change: -15)
373. Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu  (Change: -15)
374. Lisa Germano (Change: -15)
375. Nightwish (Change: -15)
376. Christopher Cross (Change: -15)
377. Exuma (Change: -15)
378. Kills (Change: -12)
379. Bruno Mars (Change: 1)
380. Run the Jewels (Change: 2)
381. Moby (Change: 65)
382. Yeah Yeah Yeahs (Change: 16)
383. John Mayer (Change: -12)
384. Streets (Change: 22)
385. Hüsker Dü (Change: 17)
386. Linda Ronstadt (Change: 22)
387. Four Tops (Change: 40)
388. Celine Dion (Change: 1)
389. David Guetta (Change: -2)
390. Staple Singers  (Change: -18)
391. Air Supply (Change: -18)
392. Boyz II Men (Change: -18)
393. Juan Gabriel (Change: -18)
394. Utopia (Change: -18)
395. Derrick May (Change: -18)
396. Jack Drag (Change: -18)
397. Doves (Change: -6)
398. Dead Can Dance (Change: 11)
399. xx (Change: 25)
400. Flying Lotus (Change: 71)
401. Mary J. Blige (Change: -20)
402. Nico (Change: 43)
403. Chico Buarque (Change: 39)
404. John Adams (Change: -18)
405. Tortoise (Change: 39)
406. Derek and The Dominos (Change: -18)
407. Bo Diddley (Change: 49)
408. Charlie Parker (Change: 14)
409. Heart (Change: -6)
410. Boston (Change: 44)
411. Steve Winwood (Change: -28)
412. Michael Tilson Thomas (Change: -28)
413. Paul Revere & The Raiders (Change: -28)
414. Iron Maiden (Change: 41)
415. Backstreet Boys (Change: -5)
416. Billy Idol (Change: -16)
417. Brian Jonestown Massacre (Change: -21)
418. Dionne Warwick (Change: 5)
419. Franz Ferdinand (Change: 1)
420. KISS (Change: -13)
421. Randy Newman (Change: 5)
422. Townes Van Zandt (Change: 48)
423. Nat King Cole (Change: 100)
424. Roxette (Change: -20)
425. Muddy Waters (Change: 58)
426. Explosions in the Sky (Change: -14)
427. Evanescence (Change: -22)
428. Oingo Boingo (Change: -36)
429. Curt Boettcher (Change: -36)
430. Joe Satriani (Change: -36)
431. Primitives (Change: -36)
432. Patsy Cline (Change: 44)
433. Dandy Warhols (Change: -12)
434. Alicia Keys (Change: 50)
435. Cars (Change: 55)
436. Cloud Nothings (Change: -11)
437. Ariel Pink (Change: 6)
438. Frightened Rabbit  (Change: -25)
439. Robert Forster  (Change: -25)
440. Ole Georg (Change: -25)
441. Paramore (Change: -25)
442. Arthur Russell (Change: -25)
443. Trashcan Sinatras (Change: -25)
444. Girls In Hawaii (Change: -25)
445. United States of America (Change: 2)
446. Jefferson Airplane (Change: 64)
447. Jimmy Cliff (Change: 28)
448. Nickelback (Change: 18)
449. Chemical Brothers (Change: 66)
450. Grateful Dead (Change: 15)
451. Violent Femmes (Change: 73)
452. Radio Futura (Change: 17)
453. Steve Miller Band (Change: 21)
454. Usher (Change: 23)
455. Joe Jackson (Change: 3)
456. Earth Wind & Fire (Change: 85)
457. Supergrass (Change: 31)
458. Silverchair (Change: 2)
459. Shakira (Change: 32)
460. Manhattans (Change: -30)
461. Necks  (Change: -30)
462. Sharon Van Etten (Change: -30)
463. Jewel Kilcher (Change: -30)
464. Marcos Valle (Change: -30)
465. Rebecca St. James (Change: -30)
466. Soul Coughing (Change: -30)
467. Avenged Sevenfold (Change: -30)
468. Doobie Brothers (Change: -30)
469. Barry Manilow (Change: -30)
470. György Ligeti (Change: -30)
471. Housemartins (Change: -30)
472. Minutemen (Change: -19)
473. Creed (Change: 13)
474. Joao Gilberto (Change: 31)
475. Drifters (Change: 72)
476. Kelly Clarkson (Change: -19)
477. Father John Misty (Change: -10)
478. Joan Manuel Serrat (Change: -17)
479. Cesaria Evora (Change: -20)
480. Electric Light Orchestra (Change: 19)
481. Katy Perry (Change: 39)
482. Rodriguez (Change: 98)
483. Game Theory (Change: -15)
484. Verlaines (Change: -36)
485. Annie  (Change: -36)
486. Puppetmastaz (Change: -36)
487. Easybeats (Change: -36)
488. Les Rita Mitsouko (Change: -36)
489. Blind Faith (Change: -8)
490. Devo (Change: 22)
491. Roy Harper (Change: -19)
492. Animals (Change: 0)
493. Whitesnake (Change: -20)
494. Isaac Hayes (Change: 34)
495. Andy Stott (Change: 18)
496. Suzanne Vega (Change: -16)
497. Camarón de la Isla (Change: -15)
498. Dolly Parton (Change: -11)
499. Bat For Lashes (Change: -14)
500. Liars (Change: 44)

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby bootsy » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:58 pm

Man I missed all the fun last week while I was moving to a new state. Going back and reading the comments and the roll out itself was so interesting. I can't believe I'm the only person that voted for Nas. I agree with the comments on page 9 about R&B getting the shaft. There are so many good R&B, funk artists that aren't on the AM lists. We should do something similar to that hip-hop thread from a while back.

Great rollout Jimmy Jazz, you put in some mad work and I love that you took your time. That makes the wait of the rollout so much better and fun-ner

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Pierre » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:02 pm

Just to be clear, when I talked about the fishy votes, I wasn't talking about the acts for whom they voted, but the fact that, according to JimmyJazz and BleuPanda, some votes were extremely similar with just little variations between the rankings of the artists, which implies some organized action. Otherwise, the fact that they voted for mainstream acts with little interest in more obscure artists is their choice, and a legitimate one, again, as long as it's not an organized action against the poll.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby prosecutorgodot » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:11 pm

BleuPanda wrote:The top 50 according to those who did not vote for the Beatles (Jeff, Gillingham, Moonbeam, luney6, renan_antonio, and notbrianeno):
1. Bjork
2. Radiohead
3. David Bowie
4. Bob Dylan
5. Rolling Stones

Interesting. In a world without the Beatles, Bjork becomes the supreme monarch of popular music.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby BleuPanda » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:13 pm

Pierre wrote:Just to be clear, when I talked about the fishy votes, I wasn't talking about the acts for whom they voted, but the fact that, according to JimmyJazz and BleuPanda, some votes were extremely similar with just little variations between the rankings of the artists, which implies some organized action. Otherwise, the fact that they voted for mainstream acts with little interest in more obscure artists is their choice, and a legitimate one, again, as long as it's not an organized action against the poll.



But, let me end this now by saying, whatever you believe, the results have been posted. There's no way of proving this either way (outside of those particular users speaking up and calling us out for suspecting them), and if you're truly convinced certain users are questionable, you have access to the file and can edit them out on your own if you so choose. As the person who started this whole 'legitimacy' thing from the beginning, I think now is a good time to stop discussing it. The question has been raised, but there is no way to come to the truth through discussion; so, we might as well stop talking about it.

(And for those who think I'm paranoid, we totally did get a spammer trying to vote in Overlooked songs, so these things do happen)

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby PlasticRam » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:15 pm

BleuPanda wrote:363. Sixto Rodriguez (Change: -27)
482. Rodriguez (Change: 98)

I think this is an error. Should be the same artist. Error prolly in the official results too.

Edit: Funny thing is this happened the last time too :D
Last edited by PlasticRam on Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I feel like that

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby BleuPanda » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:19 pm

PlasticRam wrote:
BleuPanda wrote:363. Sixto Rodriguez (Change: -27)
482. Rodriguez (Change: 98)

I think this is an error. Should be the same artist. Error prolly in the official results too.



If that's the case, this artist should be #247 in the main results.

I'm assuming this is an error on the part of neither me or JimmyJazz realizing it was the same artist...

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Pierre » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:19 pm

BleuPanda wrote:
Pierre wrote:Just to be clear, when I talked about the fishy votes, I wasn't talking about the acts for whom they voted, but the fact that, according to JimmyJazz and BleuPanda, some votes were extremely similar with just little variations between the rankings of the artists, which implies some organized action. Otherwise, the fact that they voted for mainstream acts with little interest in more obscure artists is their choice, and a legitimate one, again, as long as it's not an organized action against the poll.



But, let me end this now by saying, whatever you believe, the results have been posted. There's no way of proving this either way (outside of those particular users speaking up and calling us out for suspecting them), and if you're truly convinced certain users are questionable, you have access to the file and can edit them out on your own if you so choose. As the person who started this whole 'legitimacy' thing from the beginning, I think now is a good time to stop discussing it. The question has been raised, but there is no way to come to the truth through discussion; so, we might as well stop talking about it.

(And for those who think I'm paranoid, we totally did get a spammer trying to vote in Overlooked songs, so these things do happen)


That's fine by me. No matter what, I'm pretty sure we've already spoiled the fun for the newcomers, so no need to turn the knife in the wound any longer.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Zombeels » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:23 pm

There are actually about 4 artists I forgot to put on my list. Can we do it all over again? :mrgreen:

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Romain » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:27 pm

Georgie wrote:
Romain wrote:
Gillingham wrote:I wasn't around either in the 70s, but I did know Eno before I came to AM, while I only know Steely Dan through AM.

The same here. I think Steely Dan is an "american thing" and Eno a "world thing".

So then Sweden is America's 51st state.


Sorry, I don't understand :)

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby PlasticRam » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:27 pm

Official results with Sixto Rodriguez (AKA Rodriguez) at #247 instead of #337:

1| Beatles
2| David Bowie
3| Bob Dylan
4| Radiohead
5| Rolling Stones
6| Bruce Springsteen
7| R.E.M.
8| Stevie Wonder
9| Prince
10| Led Zeppelin
11| Velvet Underground
12| Beach Boys
13| Michael Jackson
14| Pink Floyd
15| Smiths
16| Bjork
17| U2
18| Arcade Fire
19| Cure
20| Jimi Hendrix
21| Kanye West
22| Nirvana
23| Simon & Garfunkel
24| Queen
25| Who
26| Neil Young
27| Miles Davis
28| Clash
29| Talking Heads
30| Tom Waits
31| Madonna
32| Pixies
33| Bob Marley
34| Elvis Presley
35| Kinks
36| Marvin Gaye
37| Elvis Costello
38| Brian Eno
39| LCD Soundsystem
40| John Coltrane
41| Elton John
42| Kraftwerk
43| Sufjan Stevens
44| PJ Harvey
45| Nick Cave
46| Doors
47| Joni Mitchell
48| Kate Bush
49| OutKast
50| Blur
51| White Stripes
52| Kendrick Lamar
53| Leonard Cohen
54| Fleetwood Mac
55| James Brown
56| Joy Division
57| Bee Gees
58| National
59| Johnny Cash
60| Coldplay
61| Daft Punk
62| Beck
63| Van Morrison
64| New Order
65| Oasis
66| Pearl Jam
67| Portishead
68| Smashing Pumpkins
69| Public Enemy
70| Frank Sinatra
71| Wilco
72| Elliott Smith
73| Creedence Clearwater Revival
74| Aretha Franklin
75| Belle and Sebastian
76| Jacques Brel
77| Depeche Mode
78| Green Day
79| King Crimson
80| ABBA
81| Guns N' Roses
82| Nick Drake
83| Sonic Youth
84| Beastie Boys
85| Red Hot Chili Peppers
86| Steely Dan
87| Police
88| Black Sabbath
89| Sigur Rós
90| Billie Holiday
91| Gorillaz
92| Ray Charles
93| Aerosmith
94| Vampire Weekend
95| Paul Simon
96| Nina Simone
97| My Bloody Valentine
98| Serge Gainsbourg
99| Pavement
100| John Lennon
101| Lou Reed
102| Sly & The Family Stone
103| Joanna Newsom
104| Chuck Berry
105| Otis Redding
106| Massive Attack
107| Flaming Lips
108| Roxy Music
109| Paul McCartney
110| Eagles
111| Funkadelic/Parliament
112| Frank Zappa
113| Lana Del Rey
114| Metallica
115| Foo Fighters
116| Scott Walker
117| Eminem
118| Arctic Monkeys
119| Yes
120| Cocteau Twins
121| Fela Kuti
122| Whitney Houston
123| Stooges
124| Louis Armstrong
125| Zombies
126| Ella Fitzgerald
127| Charles Mingus
128| Linkin Park
129| Byrds
130| Weezer
131| Billy Joel
132| Frank Ocean
133| Blondie
134| Al Green
135| Jam
136| Genesis
137| Janet Jackson
138| TV on the Radio
139| Low
140| Jeff Buckley
141| Can
142| Bon Jovi
143| Aphex Twin
144| Nine Inch Nails
145| Sam Cooke
146| Duke Ellington
147| Godspeed You! Black Emperor
148| Super Furry Animals
149| Grimes
150| Built To Spill
151| XTC
152| Swans
153| Strokes
154| Patti Smith
155| M.I.A.
156| Beyonce
157| Stone Roses
158| Mercury Rev
159| Jackson 5
160| Knife
161| AC/DC
162| Phil Collins
163| Wu-Tang Clan
164| Janelle Monae
165| Boards of Canada
166| Dusty Springfield
167| Tim Buckley
168| Animal Collective
169| Journey
170| Primal Scream
171| Supremes
172| Jay-Z
173| Sun Ra
174| Roy Orbison
175| Ramones
176| Julia Holter
177| Decemberists
178| Britney Spears
179| Captain Beefheart
180| Fall
181| Curtis Mayfield
182| Bon Iver
183| Fleet Foxes
184| Donna Summer
185| Temptations
186| Carole King
187| Buddy Holly
188| Stereolab
189| Adele
190| Muse
191| Rush
192| Modest Mouse
193| Band
194| Beach House
195| Robert Wyatt
196| George Michael
197| St. Vincent
198| Todd Rundgren
199| Eric Clapton
200| Eurythmics
201| Sleater-Kinney
202| Pet Shop Boys
203| Replacements
204| Ennio Morricone
205| Moody Blues
206| Monkees
207| Pulp
208| Deerhunter
209| Lady Gaga
210| Tribe Called Quest
211| Cat Stevens
212| Tindersticks
213| Roots
214| Blink 182
215| Big Star
216| Jesus and Mary Chain
217| Mariah Carey
218| James Taylor
219| Prefab Sprout
220| Barbra Streisand
221| Duran Duran
222| Mogwai
223| Manic Street Preachers
224| Tori Amos
225| Eels
226| Lush
227| Drake
228| Spiritualized
229| Alain Bashung
230| Notorious B.I.G.
231| Queens of the Stone Age
232| Yo La Tengo
233| Magnetic Fields
234| Carpenters
235| George Harrison
236| Santana
237| Hank Williams
238| Justin Timberlake
239| DJ Shadow
240| Tom Petty
241| Sting
242| Divine Comedy
243| Love
244| Van Halen
245| Four Tet
246| Ornette Coleman
247| Sixto Rodriguez
248| Interpol
249| Sade
250| Little Richard
251| Jorge Ben
252| Peter Gabriel
253| Lynyrd Skynyrd
254| Guided by Voices
255| Bryan Adams
256| Wire
257| Gillian Welch
258| Faust
259| Astor Piazzolla
260| Jackson Browne
261| Christina Aguilera
262| Siouxsie & The Banshees
263| Echo & The Bunnymen
264| Maroon 5
265| Janis Joplin
266| Spoon
267| Death Grips
268| Style Council
269| Madlib
270| Deep Purple
271| Autechre
272| Cranberries
273| Georges Brassens
274| Burial
275| D'Angelo
276| Neutral Milk Hotel
277| Black Eyed Peas
278| Ride
279| Cream
280| Pretenders
281| Tears For Fears
282| T. Rex
283| Talk Talk
284| Television
285| Soundgarden
286| Avril Lavigne
287| Amy Winehouse
288| Robyn
289| Caetano Veloso
290| Edith Piaf
291| Steve Reich
292| John Cage
293| Mizell Brothers
294| Nas
295| Underworld
296| Bill Evans
297| Taylor Swift
298| Jack Johnson
299| Kylie Minogue
300| Chicago
301| Air
302| Os Mutantes
303| Camera Obscura
304| Saint Etienne
305| Diana Ross
306| Tina Turner
307| Crowded House
308| NEU!
309| Alanis Morissette
310| Antonio Carlos Jobim
311| Fugazi
312| KPM All-Stars
313| Newsboys
314| Small Faces
315| Thrice
316| Smokey Robinson
317| M83
318| Mac DeMarco
319| Tame Impala
320| Pere Ubu
321| Red House Painters
322| Sarah McLachlan
323| Herbie Hancock
324| Black Keys
325| Hot Chip
326| Bob Seger
327| Verve
328| Joe Hisaishi
329| Fiona Apple
330| De La Soul
331| Erykah Badu
332| Ghostface Killah
333| Eric B. & Rakim
334| Rod Stewart
335| Boo Radleys
336| Igor Stravinsky
337| Lighthouse Family
338| Beta Band
339| Garbage
340| Real Estate
341| Tool
342| Go-Betweens
343| Everly Brothers
344| System of a Down
345| Teenage Fanclub
346| Chance the Rapper
347| Florence + The Machine
348| Grizzly Bear
349| B-52s
350| Avalanches
351| Hall and Oates
352| Missy Elliott
353| Dire Straits
354| Allman Brothers Band
355| Alice in Chains
356| Sex Pistols
357| Christopher Cross
358| Exuma
359| Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu
360| Goldfrapp
361| Lisa Germano
362| Nightwish
363| Run-DMC
364| Blue Oyster Cult
365| Amon Duul II
366| Kills
367| Rihanna
368| Antony And The Johnsons
369| Lucinda Williams
370| Morrissey
371| John Mayer
372| Air Supply
373| Boyz II Men
374| Derrick May
375| Jack Drag
376| Juan Gabriel
377| Staple Singers
378| Utopia
379| 3 Doors Down
380| Bruno Mars
381| Mary J. Blige
382| Run the Jewels
383| Michael Tilson Thomas
384| Paul Revere & The Raiders
385| Steve Winwood
386| John Adams
387| David Guetta
388| Derek and The Dominos
389| Celine Dion
390| Rage against the Machine
391| Doves
392| Curt Boettcher
393| Joe Satriani
394| Oingo Boingo
395| Primitives
396| Brian Jonestown Massacre
397| Lenny Kravitz
398| Yeah Yeah Yeahs
399| Robert Johnson
400| Billy Idol
401| Killers
402| Hüsker Dü
403| Heart
404| Roxette
405| Evanescence
406| Streets
407| KISS
408| Linda Ronstadt
409| Dead Can Dance
410| Backstreet Boys
411| Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
412| Explosions in the Sky
413| Arthur Russell
414| Frightened Rabbit
415| Girls In Hawaii
416| Ole Georg
417| Paramore
418| Robert Forster
419| Trashcan Sinatras
420| Franz Ferdinand
421| Dandy Warhols
422| Charlie Parker
423| Dionne Warwick
424| xx
425| Cloud Nothings
426| Randy Newman
427| Four Tops
428| Cyndi Lauper
429| Thelonious Monk
430| Avenged Sevenfold
431| Barry Manilow
432| Doobie Brothers
433| György Ligeti
434| Housemartins
435| Jewel Kilcher
436| Manhattans
437| Marcos Valle
438| Necks
439| Rebecca St. James
440| Sharon Van Etten
441| Soul Coughing
442| Chico Buarque
443| Ariel Pink
444| Tortoise
445| Nico
446| Moby
447| United States of America
448| Annie
449| Easybeats
450| Les Rita Mitsouko
451| Puppetmastaz
452| Verlaines
453| Minutemen
454| Boston
455| Iron Maiden
456| Bo Diddley
457| Kelly Clarkson
458| Joe Jackson
459| Cesaria Evora
460| Silverchair
461| Joan Manuel Serrat
462| Courtney Barnett
463| Heartless Bastards
464| Ilegales
465| Grateful Dead
466| Nickelback
467| Father John Misty
468| Game Theory
469| Radio Futura
470| Townes Van Zandt
471| Flying Lotus
472| Roy Harper
473| Whitesnake
474| Steve Miller Band
475| Jimmy Cliff
476| Patsy Cline
477| Usher
478| Bob James
479| Gorky’s Zygotic Mynci
480| Suzanne Vega
481| Blind Faith
482| Camarón de la Isla
483| Muddy Waters
484| Alicia Keys
485| Bat For Lashes
486| Creed
487| Dolly Parton
488| Supergrass
489| Sheryl Crow
490| Cars
491| Shakira
492| Animals
493| (English) Beat
494| Bonnie Raitt
495| Julianna Barwick
496| Krzysztof Penderecki
497| Los Enemigos
498| Phish
499| Electric Light Orchestra
500| George Gershwin
I feel like that

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby prosecutorgodot » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:39 pm

BleuPanda wrote:The BleuPanda list, or, what this would have looked like if I ran it (using a modified formula of the one I used last year):

Basically, when you run these polls, you have to create a formula that links all these votes together. Part of what you have to do is adjust the number until you get the right values, usually along a curve. In simple terms to understand what I did here:
A #1 vote using either Jimmy's or my own method gets 100 points
Under Jimmy's method, a #100 gets 4.46 points, which doesn't do much of anything
I lessened the curve a bit, where #100 gets 10 points

I feel like the curve being too steep causes our results to lean too much toward the top of our lists, essentially making a #100 placement worthless. Using a less steep curve also leads to more 'consensus;' for example, we go from everyone's top 14 making it in automatically to everyone's top 11. I have included the numbers to show relative placement between our two formulas; a positive number is a gain on my formula, a negative is a loss with my formula.

Part of this is just to show how a little adjustment can entirely change the results. Even the host's methods can change how well your favorite band does.


I wanted to accentuate BleuPanda's version.

BleuPanda wrote:1. Beatles (Change: 0)
2. David Bowie (Change: 0)
3. Bob Dylan (Change: 0)
4. Radiohead (Change: 0)
5. Rolling Stones (Change: 0)
6. Bruce Springsteen (Change: 0)
7. R.E.M. (Change: 0)
8. Stevie Wonder (Change: 0)

Here you see the top 8 remained the same.

Coming up next were some of the most significant differences from JimmyJazz's list. It really shows what a difference the formula makes, in this case JimmyJazz --> BleuPanda, giving artists a boost if they appear low on many lists. Notice in particular the rise of Nat King Cole.
BleuPanda wrote:76. Police (Change: 11)
150. Ramones (Change: 25)
214. Peter Gabriel (Change: 37)
238. Talk Talk (Change: 44)
266. Air (Change: 34)
286. Rod Stewart (Change: 47)
294. Verve (Change: 32)
300. Avalanches (Change: 50)
308. Rihanna (Change: 59)
311. B-52s (Change: 37)
321. Antony And The Johnsons (Change: 47)
354. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (Change: 57)
358. Thelonious Monk (Change: 71)
365. Killers (Change: 36)
368. Cyndi Lauper (Change: 60)
381. Moby (Change: 65)
387. Four Tops (Change: 40)
400. Flying Lotus (Change: 71)
402. Nico (Change: 43)
407. Bo Diddley (Change: 49)
410. Boston (Change: 44)
414. Iron Maiden (Change: 41)
422. Townes Van Zandt (Change: 48)
423. Nat King Cole (Change: 100)
425. Muddy Waters (Change: 58)
432. Patsy Cline (Change: 44)
434. Alicia Keys (Change: 50)
435. Cars (Change: 55)
446. Jefferson Airplane (Change: 64)
449. Chemical Brothers (Change: 66)
451. Violent Femmes (Change: 73)
456. Earth Wind & Fire (Change: 85)
475. Drifters (Change: 72)
482. Rodriguez (Change: 98)
500. Liars (Change: 44)

Even though I did not intend it, all the artists shown increased in rank (meaning drops were smaller).

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby prosecutorgodot » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:42 pm

Zombeels wrote:There are actually about 4 artists I forgot to put on my list. Can we do it all over again? :mrgreen:

LOLZ

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Zombeels » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:57 pm

I must be blind. Did Lynyrd Skynyrd make the top 500?

Nevermind, 253. I must have missed them.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Bruno » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:07 pm

Zombeels wrote:There are actually about 4 artists I forgot to put on my list. Can we do it all over again? :mrgreen:

Who?

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Zombeels » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:08 pm

Artists I'm shocked that they didn't make the top 500

Jethro Tull
Badfinger
Jimmy Smith
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Buffalo Springfield
Turtles
Donovan
Ween

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Zombeels » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:09 pm

Bruno wrote:
Zombeels wrote:There are actually about 4 artists I forgot to put on my list. Can we do it all over again? :mrgreen:

Who?


The Cars
Love
Pretty Things
Friska Viljor

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Moonbeam » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:12 pm

Thanks for hosting this, JimmyJazz! I really appreciate all of your hard work on this.

Thank you too, BleuPanda! I'm particularly fond of the non-Beatles list, as can be expected given my vote counts for 1/6 of the total.

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Postby Henrik » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:24 pm

Thanks Jimmyjazz!!!! Take a well-deserved break. I hope you come back pretty soon feeling well.
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Postby Henrik » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:30 pm

PlasticRam wrote:
Sweepstakes Ron wrote:Eh, I don't find them that fishy. Their lists reasonably seem like what I would get from asking someone on the street (on the off chance they made one in the first place), they only seem out of place because of the fact that they're on a music forum. Perhaps they've only recently discovered AM and are looking to expand their horizons, but still wanted to participate in the poll anyway.

Yeah I agree tbh.

I agree too. And everyone of you should feel most welcome to "unlurk" anytime.
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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Dexter » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:52 pm

BleuPanda wrote:
Pierre wrote:Just to be clear, when I talked about the fishy votes, I wasn't talking about the acts for whom they voted, but the fact that, according to JimmyJazz and BleuPanda, some votes were extremely similar with just little variations between the rankings of the artists, which implies some organized action. Otherwise, the fact that they voted for mainstream acts with little interest in more obscure artists is their choice, and a legitimate one, again, as long as it's not an organized action against the poll.



But, let me end this now by saying, whatever you believe, the results have been posted. There's no way of proving this either way (outside of those particular users speaking up and calling us out for suspecting them), and if you're truly convinced certain users are questionable, you have access to the file and can edit them out on your own if you so choose. As the person who started this whole 'legitimacy' thing from the beginning, I think now is a good time to stop discussing it. The question has been raised, but there is no way to come to the truth through discussion; so, we might as well stop talking about it.

(And for those who think I'm paranoid, we totally did get a spammer trying to vote in Overlooked songs, so these things do happen)


If there's no way of proving the truth that this poll was sabotaged then there's nothing we can do. However, assuming without admitting that the poll was sabotaged, this might have been avoided if we posted our lists directly to the thread instead of sending it through email. The troller/s might had probably thought twice of posting their list knowing if they do so it would invite suspicion of some regulars here.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Maschine_Man » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:57 pm

BleuPanda wrote:The top 50 according to those who did not vote for the Beatles (Jeff, Gillingham, Moonbeam, luney6, renan_antonio, and notbrianeno):
1. Bjork

Death to The Beatles, long reign Bjork!

But seriously, thank you so much to all that have put in so much into this poll, from hosting (JimmyJazz, an especially grateful grapefruit I am) to analyzing and speculation.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Georgie » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:11 pm

Zombeels wrote:
Bruno wrote:
Zombeels wrote:There are actually about 4 artists I forgot to put on my list. Can we do it all over again? :mrgreen:

Who?


The Cars
Love
Pretty Things
Friska Viljor


I never would've thought that I'd be the only one to vote for the Pretty Things. I recommend their albums S.F. Sorrow & Parachute based on this poll's results. Todd Rundgren having 4 votes doesn't make sense.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Henrik » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:12 pm

I honestly don't get how expressing most love for Michael Jackson, Queen, Beatles and Bee Gees could be considered trolling. Maybe a few of these 8 people are friends with similar taste, but so what? It's not forbidden.

I haven't checked the spreadsheet, but my impression from what I've read is that none of these 8 lists are very similar to each other. If they had been, then I agree that would have been suspicious.
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Postby Bruno » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:20 pm

Rank artist by number of votes (At least 5 votes)

Rank/Artist/Votes/Change

1 l Beatles l 58 l 0
2 l David Bowie l 57 l 0
3 l Bob Dylan l 51 l 0
4 l Radiohead l 51 l 0
5 l Rolling Stones l 49 l 0
6 l Velvet Underground l 49 l 5
7 l Michael Jackson l 46 l 6
8 l Bruce Springsteen l 45 l -2
9 l R.E.M. l 44 l -2
10 l Led Zeppelin l 43 l 0
11 l Pink Floyd l 43 l 3
12 l Stevie Wonder l 42 l -4
13 l Beach Boys l 40 l -1
14 l Jimi Hendrix l 40 l 6
15 l Nirvana l 40 l 7
16 l Smiths l 39 l -1
17 l Neil Young l 39 l 9
18 l Prince l 38 l -9
19 l U2 l 38 l -2
20 l Who l 37 l 5
21 l Bjork l 35 l -5
22 l Simon & Garfunkel l 35 l 1
23 l Marvin Gaye l 35 l 13
24 l Clash l 34 l 4
25 l Cure l 33 l -6
26 l Miles Davis l 33 l 1
27 l Talking Heads l 33 l 2
28 l Arcade Fire l 32 l -10
29 l Pixies l 32 l 3
30 l Kinks l 32 l 5
31 l Sufjan Stevens l 31 l 12
32 l Kanye West l 30 l -11
33 l Bob Marley l 30 l 0
34 l Elvis Presley l 30 l 0
35 l Elvis Costello l 30 l 2
36 l Tom Waits l 29 l -6
37 l Madonna l 29 l -6
38 l Doors l 29 l 8
39 l Queen l 28 l -15
40 l Kraftwerk l 27 l 2
41 l PJ Harvey l 27 l 3
42 l Johnny Cash l 27 l 17
43 l OutKast l 26 l 6
44 l Fleetwood Mac l 26 l 10
45 l Daft Punk l 26 l 16
46 l LCD Soundsystem l 25 l -7
47 l Elton John l 25 l -6
48 l Beck l 25 l 14
49 l Police l 25 l 38
50 l John Coltrane l 24 l -10
51 l Joni Mitchell l 24 l -4
52 l Kendrick Lamar l 24 l 0
53 l James Brown l 24 l 2
54 l New Order l 24 l 10
55 l Nick Cave l 23 l -10
56 l Kate Bush l 23 l -8
57 l Leonard Cohen l 23 l -4
58 l Creedence Clearwater Revival l 23 l 15
59 l Oasis l 22 l 6
60 l Aretha Franklin l 22 l 14
61 l Brian Eno l 21 l -23
62 l Joy Division l 21 l -6
63 l Smashing Pumpkins l 21 l 5
64 l Frank Sinatra l 21 l 6
65 l Wilco l 21 l 6
66 l Nick Drake l 21 l 16
67 l Blur l 20 l -17
68 l White Stripes l 20 l -17
69 l Portishead l 20 l -2
70 l Public Enemy l 20 l -1
71 l Beastie Boys l 20 l 13
72 l National l 19 l -14
73 l Coldplay l 19 l -13
74 l Sonic Youth l 19 l 9
75 l Black Sabbath l 19 l 13
76 l Van Morrison l 18 l -13
77 l Pearl Jam l 18 l -11
78 l Elliott Smith l 18 l -6
79 l Lou Reed l 18 l 22
80 l Otis Redding l 18 l 25
81 l Flaming Lips l 18 l 26
82 l Depeche Mode l 17 l -5
83 l ABBA l 17 l -3
84 l Red Hot Chili Peppers l 17 l 1
85 l Nina Simone l 17 l 11
86 l John Lennon l 17 l 14
87 l Sigur Rós l 16 l 2
88 l Gorillaz l 16 l 3
89 l Ray Charles l 16 l 3
90 l Aerosmith l 16 l 3
91 l Vampire Weekend l 16 l 3
92 l Chuck Berry l 16 l 12
93 l Massive Attack l 16 l 13
94 l Ramones l 16 l 81
95 l Jacques Brel l 15 l -19
96 l Green Day l 15 l -18
97 l Guns N' Roses l 15 l -16
98 l My Bloody Valentine l 15 l -1
99 l Sly & The Family Stone l 15 l 3
100 l Roxy Music l 15 l 8
101 l Arctic Monkeys l 15 l 17
102 l Sam Cooke l 15 l 43
103 l Bee Gees l 14 l -46
104 l Belle and Sebastian l 14 l -29
105 l Serge Gainsbourg l 14 l -7
106 l Metallica l 14 l 8
107 l Eminem l 14 l 10
108 l Strokes l 14 l 45
109 l Paul Simon l 13 l -14
110 l Funkadelic/Parliament l 13 l 1
111 l Stooges l 13 l 12
112 l Blondie l 13 l 21
113 l AC/DC l 13 l 48
114 l Buddy Holly l 13 l 73
115 l King Crimson l 12 l -36
116 l Billie Holiday l 12 l -26
117 l Pavement l 12 l -18
118 l Foo Fighters l 12 l -3
119 l Byrds l 12 l 10
120 l Duke Ellington l 12 l 26
121 l Grimes l 12 l 28
122 l Beyonce l 12 l 34
123 l Stone Roses l 12 l 34
124 l Roy Orbison l 12 l 50
125 l Curtis Mayfield l 12 l 56
126 l Steely Dan l 11 l -40
127 l Joanna Newsom l 11 l -24
128 l Scott Walker l 11 l -12
129 l Zombies l 11 l -4
130 l Billy Joel l 11 l 1
131 l Al Green l 11 l 3
132 l Genesis l 11 l 4
133 l TV on the Radio l 11 l 5
134 l Jeff Buckley l 11 l 6
135 l XTC l 11 l 16
136 l M.I.A. l 11 l 19
137 l Primal Scream l 11 l 33
138 l Supremes l 11 l 33
139 l Jay-Z l 11 l 33
140 l Bon Iver l 11 l 42
141 l George Michael l 11 l 55
142 l Replacements l 11 l 61
143 l Peter Gabriel l 11 l 108
144 l Eagles l 10 l -34
145 l Fela Kuti l 10 l -24
146 l Louis Armstrong l 10 l -22
147 l Ella Fitzgerald l 10 l -21
148 l Charles Mingus l 10 l -21
149 l Frank Ocean l 10 l -17
150 l Jam l 10 l -15
151 l Can l 10 l -10
152 l Aphex Twin l 10 l -9
153 l Patti Smith l 10 l 1
154 l Janelle Monae l 10 l 10
155 l Temptations l 10 l 30
156 l Tom Petty l 10 l 84
157 l Talk Talk l 10 l 125
158 l Paul McCartney l 9 l -49
159 l Frank Zappa l 9 l -47
160 l Lana Del Rey l 9 l -47
161 l Cocteau Twins l 9 l -41
162 l Whitney Houston l 9 l -40
163 l Weezer l 9 l -33
164 l Nine Inch Nails l 9 l -20
165 l Super Furry Animals l 9 l -17
166 l Knife l 9 l -6
167 l Fleet Foxes l 9 l 16
168 l Donna Summer l 9 l 16
169 l Band l 9 l 24
170 l Pulp l 9 l 37
171 l Big Star l 9 l 44
172 l Hank Williams l 9 l 65
173 l Love l 9 l 70
174 l Echo & The Bunnymen l 9 l 88
175 l Janet Jackson l 8 l -38
176 l Swans l 8 l -24
177 l Tim Buckley l 8 l -10
178 l Animal Collective l 8 l -10
179 l Adele l 8 l 10
180 l Beach House l 8 l 14
181 l Ennio Morricone l 8 l 23
182 l Cream l 8 l 96
183 l Tears For Fears l 8 l 97
184 l T. Rex l 8 l 97
185 l Air l 8 l 115
186 l Yes l 7 l -67
187 l Godspeed You! Black Emperor l 7 l -40
188 l Wu-Tang Clan l 7 l -25
189 l Julia Holter l 7 l -13
190 l Muse l 7 l 0
191 l St. Vincent l 7 l 6
192 l Pet Shop Boys l 7 l 10
193 l Cat Stevens l 7 l 18
194 l Prefab Sprout l 7 l 25
195 l Duran Duran l 7 l 26
196 l Eels l 7 l 29
197 l Spiritualized l 7 l 31
198 l Santana l 7 l 38
199 l Jorge Ben l 7 l 51
200 l Astor Piazzolla l 7 l 58
201 l Spoon l 7 l 64
202 l Deep Purple l 7 l 67
203 l Amy Winehouse l 7 l 83
204 l Rod Stewart l 7 l 129
205 l Avalanches l 7 l 145
206 l Rihanna l 7 l 161
207 l Linkin Park l 6 l -79
208 l Bon Jovi l 6 l -66
209 l Mercury Rev l 6 l -51
210 l Jackson 5 l 6 l -51
211 l Boards of Canada l 6 l -46
212 l Dusty Springfield l 6 l -46
213 l Britney Spears l 6 l -35
214 l Stereolab l 6 l -26
215 l Rush l 6 l -24
216 l Eric Clapton l 6 l -17
217 l Eurythmics l 6 l -17
218 l Sleater-Kinney l 6 l -17
219 l Moody Blues l 6 l -14
220 l Deerhunter l 6 l -12
221 l Lady Gaga l 6 l -12
222 l Tribe Called Quest l 6 l -12
223 l Roots l 6 l -10
224 l Mariah Carey l 6 l -7
225 l Manic Street Preachers l 6 l -2
226 l Notorious B.I.G. l 6 l 4
227 l Magnetic Fields l 6 l 6
228 l Divine Comedy l 6 l 14
229 l Van Halen l 6 l 15
230 l Interpol l 6 l 17
231 l Sade l 6 l 17
232 l Little Richard l 6 l 17
233 l Lynyrd Skynyrd l 6 l 19
234 l Janis Joplin l 6 l 30
235 l Burial l 6 l 38
236 l Neutral Milk Hotel l 6 l 39
237 l Pretenders l 6 l 42
238 l Caetano Veloso l 6 l 50
239 l Fugazi l 6 l 71
240 l Smokey Robinson l 6 l 75
241 l Verve l 6 l 85
242 l Garbage l 6 l 97
243 l Everly Brothers l 6 l 100
244 l B-52s l 6 l 105
245 l Antony And The Johnsons l 6 l 123
246 l Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young l 6 l 165
247 l Thelonious Monk l 6 l 182
248 l Low l 5 l -109
249 l Built To Spill l 5 l -99
250 l Phil Collins l 5 l -88
251 l Journey l 5 l -82
252 l Sun Ra l 5 l -79
253 l Decemberists l 5 l -76
254 l Fall l 5 l -74
255 l Carole King l 5 l -69
256 l Robert Wyatt l 5 l -61
257 l Monkees l 5 l -51
258 l Blink 182 l 5 l -44
259 l Jesus and Mary Chain l 5 l -43
260 l James Taylor l 5 l -42
261 l Mogwai l 5 l -39
262 l Drake l 5 l -35
263 l Queens of the Stone Age l 5 l -32
264 l Yo La Tengo l 5 l -32
265 l Carpenters l 5 l -31
266 l Justin Timberlake l 5 l -28
267 l DJ Shadow l 5 l -28
268 l Wire l 5 l -13
269 l Faust l 5 l -12
270 l Maroon 5 l 5 l -7
271 l Black Eyed Peas l 5 l 5
272 l Television l 5 l 11
273 l Soundgarden l 5 l 11
274 l Avril Lavigne l 5 l 11
275 l Robyn l 5 l 12
276 l Edith Piaf l 5 l 13
277 l Taylor Swift l 5 l 19
278 l Os Mutantes l 5 l 23
279 l Saint Etienne l 5 l 24
280 l Tina Turner l 5 l 25
281 l NEU! l 5 l 26
282 l Tame Impala l 5 l 36
283 l Fiona Apple l 5 l 45
284 l De La Soul l 5 l 45
285 l Ghostface Killah l 5 l 46
286 l Grizzly Bear l 5 l 62
287 l Dire Straits l 5 l 66
288 l Sex Pistols l 5 l 68
289 l Morrissey l 5 l 81
290 l Killers l 5 l 111
291 l Cyndi Lauper l 5 l 137
292 l Moby l 5 l 154
293 l Flying Lotus l 5 l 178
294 l Nat King Cole l 5 l 229
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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby notbrianeno » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:32 pm

If we could stop referring to new members as "lurkers" that would be great.
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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Nick » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:06 pm

notbrianeno wrote:If we could stop referring to new members as "lurkers" that would be great.


Serious question here. Why? As far as I know, a lurker is someone who frequents a forum without posting, which would describe the new users. There's no negative connotation at all.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Nick » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:07 pm

Also, a great big thanks to JimmyJazz and BleuPanda for the results!

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby BleuPanda » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:13 pm

Nick wrote:
notbrianeno wrote:If we could stop referring to new members as "lurkers" that would be great.


Serious question here. Why? As far as I know, a lurker is someone who frequents a forum without posting, which would describe the new users. There's no negative connotation at all.



And to add to that, I'm not referring to new users when I use it; there are a handful of new users who actually have posted on the forum. Likewise, as I mentioned, there are a couple people who have been here for at least a year who I do qualify as a lurker, since they only rarely post.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Dexter » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:27 pm

Henrik wrote:I honestly don't get how expressing most love for Michael Jackson, Queen, Beatles and Bee Gees could be considered trolling. Maybe a few of these 8 people are friends with similar taste, but so what? It's not forbidden.

I haven't checked the spreadsheet, but my impression from what I've read is that none of these 8 lists are very similar to each other. If they had been, then I agree that would have been suspicious.

It's not Michael Jackson, Queen, Beatles and Bee Gees (or even R.E.M.) that gets to me (in fact I welcome it) but Linkin Park (3rd highest new entry) Black Eyed Peas, Maroon 5, Mariah Carey, etc. getting to the top 500 and in exchange Fats Domino, The Drifters, N.W.A., B.B. King, Donovan, John Lee Hooker, The Islay Brothers are out.
I'm just disappointed and looking for some sad excuse.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Bruno » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:46 pm

Dexter wrote:
Henrik wrote:I honestly don't get how expressing most love for Michael Jackson, Queen, Beatles and Bee Gees could be considered trolling. Maybe a few of these 8 people are friends with similar taste, but so what? It's not forbidden.

I haven't checked the spreadsheet, but my impression from what I've read is that none of these 8 lists are very similar to each other. If they had been, then I agree that would have been suspicious.

It's not Michael Jackson, Queen, Beatles and Bee Gees (or even R.E.M.) that gets to me (in fact I welcome it) but Linkin Park (3rd highest new entry) Black Eyed Peas, Maroon 5, Mariah Carey, etc. getting to the top 500 and in exchange Fats Domino, The Drifters, N.W.A., B.B. King, Donovan, John Lee Hooker, The Islay Brothers are out.
I'm just disappointed and looking for some sad excuse.

Why Mariah Carey sounds so absurd? I mean, I agree about Fats Domino, The Drifters, B.B. King, The Isleys Brothers and N.W.A., but Carey is a amazing singer and has many good singles.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Zombeels » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:52 pm

Here are the Artists in which I was the only one to give a vote. Some I understand, others I'm shocked

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Zombeels » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:54 pm

Bruno wrote:
Dexter wrote:
Henrik wrote:I honestly don't get how expressing most love for Michael Jackson, Queen, Beatles and Bee Gees could be considered trolling. Maybe a few of these 8 people are friends with similar taste, but so what? It's not forbidden.

I haven't checked the spreadsheet, but my impression from what I've read is that none of these 8 lists are very similar to each other. If they had been, then I agree that would have been suspicious.

It's not Michael Jackson, Queen, Beatles and Bee Gees (or even R.E.M.) that gets to me (in fact I welcome it) but Linkin Park (3rd highest new entry) Black Eyed Peas, Maroon 5, Mariah Carey, etc. getting to the top 500 and in exchange Fats Domino, The Drifters, N.W.A., B.B. King, Donovan, John Lee Hooker, The Islay Brothers are out.
I'm just disappointed and looking for some sad excuse.

Why Mariah Carey sounds so absurd? I mean, I agree about Fats Domino, The Drifters, B.B. King, The Isleys Brothers and N.W.A., but Carey is a amazing singer and has many good singles.

I beg to differ.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Bruno » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:59 am

Well, I voted for Fats Domino, The Drifters, B.B. King ... AND Mariah Carey.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Moonbeam » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:06 am

Here are all 35 of my solo missions - basically electropop, synthpop, 80s funk, and italo disco with a few exceptions.

Annie: 11
Annie Lennox: 15
Grace Jones: 20
Bootsy's Rubber Band: 23
The Human League: 24
Chromeo: 27
George Winston: 28
Kim Wilde: 29
Gary Numan/Tubeway Army: 44
The Gap Band: 45
Mylène Farmer: 47
iamamiwhoami: 53
André Cymone: 54
The Time: 58
Girls Aloud: 59
Joan Jett: 60
Mtume: 65
Zapp: 68
Kano: 69
Yazoo: 70
Deboray Harry: 72
Bootsy Collins: 73
Erasure: 75
Tantra: 76
Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark : 83
Mötley Crüe: 84
Bagarre: 85
Busta Rhymes: 86 
Salt-N-Pepa: 90
George Clinton: 91
Evelyn "Champagne" King: 92
Heaven 17: 94
Tom Tom Club: 98
Giorgio Moroder: 99
Rick James: 100

I've actually got more of these than I landed artists in the top 100 (25). That's actually a fun statistic to look at:

X artists in the top 100
X artists outside of the top Y

I landed 25 artists inside the top 100.
I landed 25 artists outside the top 985.
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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Jeff » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:06 am

Thanks to JimmyJazz for hosting, and to BleuPanda for the late-game assist.

Moonbeam wrote:I'm particularly fond of the non-Beatles list, as can be expected given my vote counts for 1/6 of the total.


Yes, let us all recognize the non-Beatles list as the one true list, the other lists being swayed by liars, heathens, and heretics; and let us all praise our new musical messiah Bjork. Long may she offer us salvation. :D

In all seriousness, I see that I did not vote for Bjork either. However, she just missed out on my top 100, unlike the Beatles to whom I've always been indifferent. I'm actually a bit perplexed that the Rolling Stones are ranked #5 on the non-Beatles list as well. One day, someone needs to give me a long talk about why people love them so much. Don't get me wrong; I actually prefer the Stones to the Beatles. It's just that I so rarely hear them discussed that I am surprised when they rank so highly in polls like this.

I wouldn't mind seeing versions of the list with only top 10 votes (Sight and Sound poll style with them ranked by mentions) and another with only #1 votes counted. I might do this myself over the weekend if no one beats me to it (emphasis on "might" though :? ).
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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Moonbeam » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:09 am

Jeff wrote:Thanks to JimmyJazz for hosting, and to BleuPanda for the late-game assist.

Moonbeam wrote:I'm particularly fond of the non-Beatles list, as can be expected given my vote counts for 1/6 of the total.


Yes, let us all recognize the non-Beatles list as the one true list, the other lists being swayed by liars, heathens, and heretics; and let us all praise our new musical messiah Bjork. Long may she offer us salvation. :D

In all seriousness, I see that I did not vote for Bjork either. However, she just missed out on my top 100, unlike the Beatles to whom I've always been indifferent. I'm actually a bit perplexed that the Rolling Stones are ranked #5 on the non-Beatles list as well. One day, someone needs to give me a long talk about why people love them so much. Don't get me wrong; I actually prefer the Stones to the Beatles. It's just that I so rarely hear them discussed that I am surprised when they rank so highly in polls like this.


I didn't vote for the Stones either. The other 4 brethren must try to sway us into the Stones camp.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Jeff » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:33 am

Okay, so that did not take as long as I thought with the CountIf function.

Artists ranked by number of top 10 votes:
1 | Beatles | 42
2 | David Bowie | 26
3 | Bob Dylan | 25
4 | Rolling Stones | 23
5 | Radiohead | 21
6 | R.E.M. | 14
7 | Bruce Springsteen | 13
7 | Prince | 13
9 | Stevie Wonder | 12
10 | Led Zeppelin | 11
10 | Velvet Underground | 11
10 | Smiths | 11
13 | Beach Boys | 10
14 | Bjork | 9
14 | Arcade Fire | 9
14 | Queen | 9
17 | Michael Jackson | 8
18 | Cure | 7
18 | Kanye West | 7
20 | Pink Floyd | 6
20 | U2 | 6
20 | Jimi Hendrix | 6
20 | Nirvana | 6
24 | Tom Waits | 5
24 | Simon & Garfunkel | 5
24 | Clash | 5
24 | Talking Heads | 5
24 | Bob Marley | 5
24 | Elvis Costello | 5
24 | Brian Eno | 5
31 | Madonna | 4
31 | Kendrick Lamar | 4
31 | Neil Young | 4
31 | Blur | 4
31 | Bee Gees | 4
36 | James Brown | 3
36 | LCD Soundsystem | 3
36 | Miles Davis | 3
36 | Kraftwerk | 3
36 | Who | 3
36 | Pixies | 3
36 | Elvis Presley | 3
36 | Kinks | 3
36 | Elton John | 3
36 | National | 3
36 | Belle and Sebastian | 3
36 | Green Day | 3
36 | King Crimson | 3
36 | Steely Dan | 3
36 | Paul Simon | 3
36 | Paul McCartney | 3

Not all that different from our list, until you get past #25 or so.

Artists ranked by number of #1 votes:
1 | Beatles | 12 (all not listed below)
2 | Michael Jackson | 4 (bonnielaurel, Bruno, renan_antonio, vivian)
2 | Radiohead | 4 (Chris K., GucciLittlePiggy, JohnnyBGoode, Petri)
4 | Bob Dylan | 3 (JimmyJazz, Jirin, Otisredding)
4 | Cure | 3 (Henrik, slick, TimmyWing)
6 | Bee Gees | 2 (kaue, profeta)
6 | Kanye West | 2 (notbrianeno, PlasticRam)
6 | Kinks | 2 (Jackson, Zombeels)
6 | Pink Floyd | 2
10 | Beach Boys | 1 (EmilienDelRey)
10 | Bjork | 1 (Maschine_Man)
10 | Blur | 1 (Toni)
10 | Boards of Canada | 1 (Gillingham)
10 | Dusty Springfield | 1 (babydoll)
10 | Elliott Smith | 1 (Nassim)
10 | Elvis Presley | 1 (jamieW)
10 | Gillian Welch | 1 (Merlo)
10 | Green Day | 1 (prosecutorgodot)
10 | Jimi Hendrix | 1 (Listyguy)
10 | John Coltrane | 1 (sonofsamiam)
10 | Joni Mitchell | 1 (acroamor)
10 | Kate Bush | 1 (DocBrown)
10 | King Crimson | 1 (Bang Jan)
10 | LCD Soundsystem | 1 (BleuPanda)
10 | Led Zeppelin | 1 (Red Ant)
10 | Linkin Park | 1 (Karla)
10 | Lush | 1 (luvulongTIM)
10 | Madonna | 1 (Neil)
10 | My Bloody Valentine | 1 (Pierre)
10 | Pavement | 1 (Brad)
10 | Prince | 1 (Moonbeam)
10 | R.E.M. | 1 (VanillaFire)
10 | Serge Gainsbourg | 1 (Romain)
10 | Steely Dan | 1 (Georgie)
10 | Stevie Wonder | 1 (bootsy)
10 | Sun Ra | 1 (Jeff)
10 | Tindersticks | 1 (Michel)
10 | Todd Rundgren | 1 (Henry)
10 | Velvet Underground | 1 (luney6)

Here we see some changes, but the Beatles are still far-and-away the consensus pick.
Edit: Now updated with who voted for the artist at #1 in parentheses. I did this hurriedly, so apologies for any errors.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby jamieW » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:16 am

Thanks so much, JimmyJazz and BleuPanda for all your hard work and the great presentation (as well as everyone who's posted alternative versions of the list, which have been interesting, to say the least).

Also, JimmyJazz, I hope everything's going better for you personally. I look forward to your participation in the future once you have time again.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Jeff » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:21 am

Someone needs to take my excel away. Inspired by the Marvin Gaye list, here's a list with votes counted only from people who voted for at least two of Miles Davis, John Coltrane, and Charles Mingus.

The 'Jazz-head' List:

1 | Beatles
2 | Bob Dylan
3 | David Bowie
4 | Radiohead
5 | Rolling Stones
6 | Miles Davis
7 | Beach Boys
8 | Velvet Underground
9 | Stevie Wonder
10 | John Coltrane
11 | R.E.M.
12 | Pink Floyd
13 | Bjork
14 | Bruce Springsteen
15 | Prince
16 | Tom Waits
17 | Led Zeppelin
18 | Kanye West
19 | Michael Jackson
20 | Elvis Presley
21 | Smiths
22 | Clash
23 | Billie Holiday
24 | Talking Heads
25 | Madonna
26 | Arcade Fire
27 | Marvin Gaye
28 | Simon & Garfunkel
29 | LCD Soundsystem
30 | PJ Harvey
31 | Brian Eno
32 | Pixies
33 | Neil Young
34 | James Brown
35 | Kinks
36 | OutKast
37 | Cure
38 | Jimi Hendrix
39 | Nina Simone
40 | Portishead
41 | Jacques Brel
42 | Kraftwerk
43 | Johnny Cash
44 | Nirvana
45 | Sufjan Stevens
46 | Leonard Cohen
47 | Frank Sinatra
48 | U2
49 | Nick Cave
50 | Kendrick Lamar
51 | Public Enemy
52 | Van Morrison
53 | Joy Division
54 | Charles Mingus
55 | Bob Marley
56 | Elvis Costello
57 | Ella Fitzgerald
58 | Doors
59 | Ray Charles
60 | Who
61 | Joni Mitchell
62 | Chuck Berry
63 | Daft Punk
64 | Louis Armstrong
65 | Creedence Clearwater Revival
66 | Fela Kuti
67 | Pavement
68 | Aretha Franklin
69 | Duke Ellington
70 | King Crimson
71 | Wilco
72 | National
73 | Joanna Newsom
74 | Black Sabbath
75 | Fleetwood Mac
76 | Elton John
77 | Queen
78 | Boards of Canada
79 | Elliott Smith
80 | White Stripes
81 | New Order
82 | Kate Bush
83 | Low
84 | Sigur Rós
85 | Roots
86 | Al Green
87 | Paul Simon
88 | Wu-Tang Clan
89 | Serge Gainsbourg
90 | Sun Ra
91 | Vampire Weekend
92 | Beck
93 | Flaming Lips
94 | Beastie Boys
95 | Belle and Sebastian
96 | My Bloody Valentine
97 | Jay-Z
98 | Swans
99 | Decemberists
100 | Blur

Included: JimmyJazz, BleuPanda, Dan, bootsy, Jeff, Gillingham, sonofsamiam, DaveC, Honorio, bonnielaurel, Bruno, Michel, jamieW, Nick, babydoll, Dexter, Brad, Jackson, acroamor, Merlo, VanillaFire, notbrianeno.

Sorry if I missed anyone. I figured two-of-three works better than just taking Miles Davis votes, since it's possible to like jazz and not list Davis in your top 100 (e.g., I had three R&B artists in my top 25, but did not vote for Marvin Gaye). Obviously, it's quite possible to love jazz and dislike all three of these guys or to love jazz and like one of the three, but I felt this was a good way to approximate a general interest in jazz.

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Bruno » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:51 am

I think this is an error:

Silverchair 2 votes
Silver Chair 1 vote

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby Bruno » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:54 am

jamieW wrote:Thanks so much, JimmyJazz and BleuPanda for all your hard work and the great presentation (as well as everyone who's posted alternative versions of the list, which have been interesting, to say the least).

Also, JimmyJazz, I hope everything's going better for you personally. I look forward to your participation in the future once you have time again.

Yeah, thanks a lot, JimmyJazz and BleuPanda for this great work!

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Re: The AMF Top 100 Artists 2016!!!

Postby prosecutorgodot » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:31 am

The Beatles top even the 'Jazz-head' list. That got me thinking, can we cook up any possible combination of voters that doesn't have The Beatles at the top? (besides the voters who don't include Beatles)


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