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The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:38 pm
by Henrik
I thought this was really funny.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:39 pm
by Sweepstakes Ron
This and maybe the Kyle Mooney rap battle were the only worthwhile parts of SNL the other night. But I sat through it anyway, because it was what Yeezus wanted.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:55 pm
by Setherex
Sweepstakes Ron wrote:This and maybe the Kyle Mooney rap battle were the only worthwhile parts of SNL the other night. But I sat through it anyway, because it was what Yeezus wanted.
Are you suggesting that his debut of "Ultralight Beam" wasn't worth it? Because that was an incredible live hip-hop performance if I've ever seen one.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:56 pm
by Jirin
It was funny, but I think it only represented a handful of vocal Twitter posts. Nobody I know considers the new song controversial at all.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:57 pm
by Sweepstakes Ron
Setherex wrote:
Sweepstakes Ron wrote:This and maybe the Kyle Mooney rap battle were the only worthwhile parts of SNL the other night. But I sat through it anyway, because it was what Yeezus wanted.
Are you suggesting that his debut of "Ultralight Beam" wasn't worth it? Because that was an incredible live hip-hop performance if I've ever seen one.
I was referring to the skits. That performance was great.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:03 pm
by Setherex
Sweepstakes Ron wrote:
Setherex wrote:
Sweepstakes Ron wrote:This and maybe the Kyle Mooney rap battle were the only worthwhile parts of SNL the other night. But I sat through it anyway, because it was what Yeezus wanted.
Are you suggesting that his debut of "Ultralight Beam" wasn't worth it? Because that was an incredible live hip-hop performance if I've ever seen one.
I was referring to the skits. That performance was great.
:text-goodpost: I love you like Kanye loves Kanye.

Irrelevant to this forum, obviously, but I'd also throw my hat in for the "Movie Night" skit. Some solidly funny lines in there. But the Beyonce + Kanye skits were clearly best of the night.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:07 pm
by Henrik
So this turned into another Kanye thread...

Sorry, I had to say that. But you can write what you want of course.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:12 pm
by Listyguy
Henrik wrote:So this turned into another Kanye thread...

Sorry, I had to say that. But you can write what you want of course.
:text-goodpost:

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:14 pm
by Setherex
Henrik wrote:So this turned into another Kanye thread...

Sorry, I had to say that. But you can write what you want of course.
:?

Everything I touch seems to turn to Kanye this week. My apologies.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:19 pm
by Maschine_Man
I don't understand why they insist on making the show go for an hour and a half (with commercials). Like albums that go for too long, the filler ruins the flow.

That being said I think the pre-recorded sketches are the most consistently funny, along with weekend updates. This one and the Bern Your Enthusiasm last week were quite on-point.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:15 pm
by Jirin
I think the length of the show is just because that's how it's always been. Most people tune out after Weekend Update anyway.

I hate Colin Jost so much. I hate Colin Jost like Donald Trump hates facts.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:32 pm
by Setherex
Jirin wrote:I think the length of the show is just because that's how it's always been. Most people tune out after Weekend Update anyway.

I hate Colin Jost so much. I hate Colin Jost like Donald Trump hates facts.
Jost / Che weekend update has actually turned from one of the things I hated most about the show recently into its most reliable aspects for me. Their chemistry is strangely palpable and adorable nowadays. No doubt it could be better, but I'm left amused.

I do hope SNL does not continue in its current form too far into the future, though. Once Lorne Michaels is done with it, it should be quickly on the out for a new, more modern scheme.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:56 pm
by PlasticRam
Jirin wrote:I hate Colin Jost so much. I hate Colin Jost like Hillary Clinton hates facts.
FYP

Edit: Yeah I'm kinda sorry and I won't escalate this further.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:02 pm
by BleuPanda
Jirin wrote:I think the length of the show is just because that's how it's always been. Most people tune out after Weekend Update anyway.

I hate Colin Jost so much. I hate Colin Jost like Donald Trump hates facts.
PlasticRam wrote:
Jirin wrote:I hate Colin Jost so much. I hate Colin Jost like Hillary Clinton hates facts.
FYP

Neither of these posts exist. We do not need to go down this topic again.



What did Beyonce do to deserve Kanye and political derailment?

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:11 pm
by Maschine_Man
BleuPanda wrote: What did Beyonce do to deserve Kanye and political derailment?
People found out she was black :whistle:

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:01 pm
by BleuPanda
This has been a really interesting week or so on my facebook. My right-leaning friends are going on about Beyonce being racist due to the Black Panther get-up at the Super Bowl, while my left-leaning friends are angry at her for, uh, I'm not sure exactly. Apparently she's trying to use the suffering of other black people for monetary gains? Only poor black people from New Orleans are allowed to comment on the effects of Hurricane Katrina or something. Not to add in the posts about Beyonce being popular solely due to the straight white male gaze.

I'm not sure how Beyonce has become such a controversial figure, but one of the problems I have with this video is she's also been getting attacked by other black people for essentially not being black enough, either because she's too successful to understand suffering or because she dares to dye her hair blonde. No one knows what to do with her and it all seems to ride on stereotypes and false expectations of what a black woman is allowed to do.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:16 pm
by babydoll
BleuPanda wrote:I'm not sure how Beyonce has become such a controversial figure, but one of the problems I have with this video is she's also been getting attacked by other black people for essentially not being black enough, either because she's too successful to understand suffering or because she dares to dye her hair blonde. No one knows what to do with her and it all seems to ride on stereotypes and false expectations of what a black woman is allowed to do.
If you are talking about the SNL video, I don't necessary think it's focusing on purely Beyoncé and her Super Bowl performance, but instead of a celebrity's ability to be able to appeal to masses of people who adore her nonetheless of her race (as rightfully). I mean, Kerry Washington is mentioned in that video as "supposedly black", and there's that exchange between the pair of friends with one oblivious of the other's race.

If you are talking about the Formation video, I really see it as her trying to view her race's recent history.

Sorry, if that turned out too race-oriented.
BleuPanda wrote:Not to add in the posts about Beyonce being popular solely due to the straight white male gaze.
Not solely as Crazy in Love and Countdown are, in my opinion, great pop songs, but her looks doesn't hurt either. ;)

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:18 pm
by babydoll
On a side note, can I just write her name without the accent?

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:46 pm
by Harold
babydoll wrote: If you are talking about the SNL video, I don't necessary think it's focusing on purely Beyoncé and her Super Bowl performance, but instead of a celebrity's ability to be able to appeal to masses of people who adore her nonetheless of her race (as rightfully).
Haven't watched the sketch, but this comment reminds me - in a somewhat different key - of a classic scene from Do the Right Thing, in which Mookie calls out Pino (the overtly racist son of pizzeria owner Sal) on some pop-culture cognitive dissonance (I'm working strictly from memory here, so pardon any errors):

MOOKIE: Let me ask you something, Pino - who's your favorite basketball player?
PINO: Magic Johnson.
MOOKIE: Who's your favorite movie star?
PINO: Eddie Murphy.
MOOKIE: Who's your favorite rock star? (Pino thinks.) Prince.
PINO: Nah. The Boss - Bruce!
MOOKIE: Prince. It's Prince. See, that's what I don't get about you, Pino - every other word out of your mouth is "n***er this, n***er that," and yet all your favorite people are so-called n***ers!
PINO: But - they're different. Magic, Eddie, Prince - they're not n***ers. I mean - they're not black. They're more than black.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:48 pm
by Setherex
Harold wrote:Haven't watched the sketch, but this comment reminds me - in a somewhat different key - of a classic scene from Do the Right Thing, in which Mookie calls out Pino (the overtly racist son of pizzeria owner Sal) on some pop-culture cognitive dissonance (I'm working strictly from memory here, so pardon any errors):

MOOKIE: Let me ask you something, Pino - who's your favorite basketball player?
PINO: Magic Johnson.
MOOKIE: Who's your favorite movie star?
PINO: Eddie Murphy.
MOOKIE: Who's your favorite rock star? (Pino thinks.) Prince.
PINO: Nah. The Boss - Bruce!
MOOKIE: Prince. It's Prince. See, that's what I don't get about you, Pino - every other word out of your mouth is "n***er this, n***er that," and yet all your favorite people are so-called n***ers!
PINO: But - they're different. Magic, Eddie, Prince - they're not n***ers. I mean - they're not black. They're more than black.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:40 am
by Jirin
Kanye West and Donald Trump are very similar personalities.

I stopped looking at that Citizen Trump thread somewhere around 30 posts, I had no idea it descended to that level. Come on people. I just saw that 'Like Kanye West loves Kanye West' thing and was trying to extend that. Two narcissists who make serious issues all about them and want to be president.

Re: The day Beyoncé turned black

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:34 am
by PlasticRam
Jirin wrote:Kanye West and Donald Trump are very similar personalities.
I very much agree. That's a modern way to market one's self, say crazy stuff and split the public opinion, or even net negative public opinion.

And I do regret one thing I said on that Citizen Trump thread, but I stand by all other things.