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AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby whuntva » Mon May 04, 2015 12:38 am

Here's the moment you've all probably been waiting for.

It's for the stuff that doesn't fit neatly into any of the other categories.I'd say to keep it apples-to-apples, if your piece is part of a larger work like a suite or a collection, please select one portion. I know this will seem controversial toa gain be doing a "songs" poll alongside "albums", but it only seems fair.

If you think of a piece that was originally made for one of the other categories but was made into an orchestral work, don't even bother (eg, do not nominate "Toccatta and Fugue" which was a solo organ originally).

I will accept a list of at least five. If you want to submit more than fifteen, be my guest. But only the first fifteen will be counted. As a special bonus, five songs extra will advance from this group
Point sum:
1. 50 points
2. 40
3. 30
4. 20
5. 15
6. 10
7. 9
8. 8
9. 7
10. 6
11. 5
12. 4
13. 3
14. 2
15. 1

YOU DO NOT NEED TO SPECIFY A RECORDING!!

Poll is left open for two weeks. Will close two Saturdays from now.
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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby Honorio » Mon May 04, 2015 5:43 am

And the final part:


1. SERGEY PROKOFIEV "Suite No. 2 from Romeo and Juliet" (1936). Favourite part: "I. Montagues and Capulets"
"Montagues and Capulets" from the "Romeo and Juliet" Suite for Orchestra builds from silence climaxing quickly into an impressive disonant orchestral chord. A friend of mine used to say that this chord "contain all the music in the world". Maybe he was true but for me the real highlight here is that dramatic ascending and descending melody played by the string section over an ominous march rhythm sustained by the double basses and horns. The sounds of the tragedy.


2. JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACH "Suite No. 3 in D major" (1824). Fav: "II. Air"
Probably the most beautiful piece of music ever, with an influence lasting even in pop music. Remember Procol Harum?


3. IGOR STRAVINSKY "Le sacre du printemps (The Rite of Spring)" (1913). Fav: Act 1, Part II, "Les Augures printaniers (Augurs of Spring)"
The 1913 Paris premiere ended as a riot, now it stands up as an undisputed masterpiece of modern classical music.


4. EDVARD GRIEG "Peer Gynt, Suite No. 1" (1875). Fav: "I. Morgenstemning (Morning Mood)"
Born as incidental music for the (fabulous) Ibsen's play of the same name, now this music piece brightly shines for itself.


5. BÉLA BARTÓK "Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta" (1936). Fav: "III. Adagio"
Fear. The third movement, with the timpani glissandi, is so terrifying that it has been used in many horror movies.

6. RICHARD STRAUSS "Also Sprach Zaratustra" (1896). Fav: "I. Sonnenaufgang (Sunrise)"
7. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune (Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun)" (1894).
8. MAURICE RAVEL "Rapsodie espagnole" (1908). Fav: "I. Prélude à la nuit: très modéré"
9. BEDRICH SMETANA "Má vlast (My Country)" (1872-1879). Fav: "II. Vltava (Die Moldau)"
10. KRZYSZTOF PENDERECKI "Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima" (1960).
11. BENJAMIN BRITTEN "The Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra (Variations and Fugue on a Theme of Purcell)" (1946).
12. PYOTR ILYICH TCHAIKOVSKY "1812 Overture" (1880).
13. STEVE REICH "Music for 18 Musicians" (1976). Fav: "I. Pulses"
14. JEAN SIBELIUS "Finlandia" (1899).
15. MAURICE RAVEL "La valse" (1920).
16. AARON COPLAND "Four Dance Episodes from Rodeo" (1942). Fav: "IV. Hoe-Down"
17. ARVO PÄRT "Tabula rasa" (1977). Fav: "II. Silentium"
18. GUSTAV HOLST "The Planets" (1916). Fav: "IV. Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity"
19. MICHAEL NYMAN "Water Dances" (1984). Fav: "II. Stroking"
20. PYOTR ILYICH TCHAIKOVSKY "The Nutcracker Suite" (1892). Fav: "III. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy"
21. MODEST MUSSORGSKY/NIKOLAI RIMSKY-KORSAKOV "Night on Bald Mountain" (1867/1886).
22. TOMASO ALBINONI/REMO GIAZOTTO "Adagio in G minor" (1708/1958).
23. CHARLES IVES "Three Places in New England" (1914). Fav: "II. Putnam’s Camp, Redding, Connecticut"
24. GYÖRGY LIGETI "Atmosphères" (1961).
25. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "La mer" (1905). Fav: "III. Dialogue du vent et de la mer (Dialogue of the wind and the sea)"



Three comments:
a) This time I posted a Top 25 not only because I had so many favourites on this part but mainly because if I add up this list to my Top 15s I'll end with my personal Classical Top 100.
b) 11 and 12 can be considered my "classical guilty pleasures," my favourite classical pieces when I was a child.
c) It has been a pleasure to participate in this poll, I thought at first glance I was not going to be able but in the end I enjoyed a lot doing the listening and selecting the pieces. Many thanks whuntva and many thanks to all the voters.

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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby Romain » Mon May 04, 2015 5:42 pm

Too much too much too much, toooooo much choices. Making a ranking is almost impossible... raaaahhhh !

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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby Dan » Mon May 04, 2015 5:51 pm

Romain wrote:Too much too much too much, toooooo much choices. Making a ranking is almost impossible... raaaahhhh !




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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby Romain » Mon May 04, 2015 6:22 pm

Héhéhé :D

I managed to reduce it to a top 50 ! :happy-partydance:

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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby bonnielaurel » Wed May 06, 2015 5:38 am

1. Debussy - La Mer
2. Schönberg - Variations for Orchestra
3. Rimsky-Korsakov - Sheherazade
4. Tchaikovsky - Romeo and Juliet
5. Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring
6. Ligeti - Atmosphères
7. Beethoven - Overture from "Egmont"
8. Bartók - Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta
9. Milhaud - Le Boeuf sur le toit
10. Debussy - Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faun
11. Strauss - Till Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks
12. Wagner - Parsifal: Prelude to Act 1
13. Handel - Suite No. 2 in D major from "Water Music"
14. Barber - Adagio for Strings
15. Grieg - Peer Gynt Suite No. 1
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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby whuntva » Wed May 06, 2015 4:08 pm

I was really looking forward to this.

One of my favorite times to listen to Classical is around Halloween. At least three pieces commonly associated with Halloween are included here.

1) Saint-Saens-Danse Macabre
2) R. Strauss-Also Sprach Zarathustra
3) Dukas-Sorcerer's Apprentice
4) Tchaikovsky-1812 Overture
5) Ravel-Bolero
6) Grieg - Peer Gynt Suite No. 1
7) Mussorgsky-Night on Bald Mountain
8) Dvorak-Slavonic Dance No. 7
9) Stravinsky-The Firebird
10) Rimsky-Korsakov - Sheherazade
11) Kashiwa-Stella
12) Holst-The Planets (Mars: Bringer of War)
13) Copland-Fanfare for the Common Man
14) Handel - Suite No. 2 in D major from "Water Music"
15) Sibelius-Finlandia

I dunno if "Stella" or "Program Music 1" is out of place here, but since Allmusic says it's "Modern Classical", I'll count it if anyone else votes for it.
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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby Romain » Wed May 06, 2015 4:26 pm

Bonnie, Honorio and whuntva, my list have a lot of commion with yours ;-)

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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby sonofsamiam » Thu May 07, 2015 9:26 pm

I included basically everything uncategorizable in this catch-all group, so apologies if there are "non-orchestral" items. (Though most of those are not in the Top 15, anyway.)

A large portion of this would be in my all-time classical list. My Top 5 by itself is in my Top 40 songs/pieces of all-time, and the rest is not far off. Ordering this was VERY hard.

whuntva, hope I answered your Stella question...

1 | Steve Reich | Music for 18 Musicians
2 | Krzysztof Penderecki | Threnody to The Victims of Hiroshima
3 | Igor Stravinsky | The Rite of Spring
4 | Kashiwa Daisuke | Stella
5 | Arvo Pärt | Cantus In Memorium of Benjamin Britten
6 | Georg Friedrich Haas | In Vain
7 | György Ligeti | Atmosphères
8 | Igor Stravinsky | Petrushka
9 | Gavin Bryars | Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet
10 | Karlheinz Stockhausen | Gesang der Jünglinge
11 | Arvo Pärt | Tabula rasa
12 | Iannis Xenakis | Metastasis
13 | Béla Bartók | Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta
14 | John Adams | Harmonielehre
15 | Terry Riley | In C
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16 | Paul Dolden | Below the Walls of Jericho
17 | Iannis Xenakis | La légende d'Eer
18 | Karlheinz Stockhausen | Kontakte
19 | Pauline Oliveros | Deep Listening
20 | John Cage | Indeterminacy
21 | John Luther Adams | Become Ocean
22 | Gérard Grisey | Partiels
23 | Harry Partch | Delusion of the Fury
24 | Poul Ruders | Gong
25 | Giacinto Scelsi | Hymnos
26 | Moondog | Symphonique #6 (Good for Goodie)
27 | Arnold Schoenberg | Variations for Orchestra
28 | Steve Reich | Music for Mallet Instruments, Voices and Organ
29 | Claude Debussy | La mer
30 | Igor Stravinsky | The Firebird Suite
31 | Modest Mussorgsky | Night on Bald Mountain
32 | Luigi Nono | Como una ola de fuerza y luz
33 | Edvard Grieg | Peer Gynt
34 | Edgard Varèse | Amériques
35 | Krzysztof Penderecki | Als Jakob Erwachte
36 | Maurice Ravel | Daphnis et Chloe
37 | Morton Feldman | Rothko Chapel
38 | Julius Eastman | Stay on It
39 | Laurie Spiegel | The Expanding Universe
40 | Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakov | Scheherazade
41 | Johann Sebastian Bach | Orchestral Suite No. 3
42 | Georg Friedrich Haas | Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich
43 | Bernard Parmegiani | De natura sonorum
44 | Terry Riley | A Rainbow In Curved Air
45 | Samuel Barber | Adagio for Strings
46 | Charles Ives | Three Places in New England
47 | George Frideric Handel | Water Music
48 | Camille Saint-Saëns | Carnival of the Animals
49 | Toru Takemitsu | From Me Flows What You Call Time
50 | Karlheinz Stockhausen | Gruppen
51 | Richard Strauss | Also Sprach Zarathustra
52 | Sergei Prokofiev | Romeo and Juliet
53 | Alexander Scriabin | Le poème de l'extase
54 | Friedrich Cerha | Spiegel
55 | Peter Ilitch Tchaikovsky | The Nutcracker Suite
56 | Sofia Gubaidulina | The Deceitful Face of Hope and Despair
57 | George Crumb | Star-child
58 | Pierre Boulez | Répons
59 | Ludwig van Beethoven | Egmont Overture
60 | Arne Nordheim | Epitaffio
61 | Giacinto Scelsi | Anahit
62 | György Ligeti | Lontano
63 | Poul Ruders | Thus Saw St. John
64 | Philip Glass | Music With Changing Parts
65 | Luc Ferrari | Interrupteur
66 | Steve Reich | Different Trains
67 | Anton Webern | Six Pieces for Orchestra
68 | Kashiwa Daisuke | April #.02
69 | Camille Saint-Saëns | Danse macabre
70 | Aaron Copland | Fanfare for the Common Man

Yes, I love modern classical.

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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby Romain » Fri May 08, 2015 6:43 am

Top 50 :

1. Rimsky Korsakov - Schéhérazade
2. Maurice Ravel - Boléro
3. Paul Dukas - L'apprenti Sorcier
4. Jean Sibelius - La Valse Triste
5. Darius Milhaud - Le bœuf sur le toit
6. Stravinsky - Le sacre du printemps
7. César Franck - Variations Symphoniques
8. Maurice Ravel - Daphnis et Chloé
9. Claude Debussy - La mer
10. Saint Saëns - Danse Macabre
11. Arturo Márquez - Danzón No. 2
12. Franz Liszt - Mazeppa
13. Serge Rachmaninov - l'île des morts
14. Alexandre Borodine - Dans les steppes de l'asie centrale
15. Villa-Lobos - Bacchianas Brasileiras
16. Chostacovich - Suite pour orchestre de jazz n°2
17. Edward Elgar - Enigma Variations
18. Gustav Holst - Planets
19. Arvo Pärt - Tabula rasa
20. Maurice Ravel - La Valse
21. Claude Debussy - Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune
22. Darius Milhaud - La création du monde
23. Edward Grieg - Peer Gynt
24. Joseph Suk - Scherzo Fantastique
25. Jean Cras - Journal de bord
26. Bizet - L'Arlésienne
27. Richard Strauss - Till Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks
28. Brahms - Danses Hongroises
29. Barber - Adagio
30. Mendelssohn - La grotte de Fingal
31. Prokofiev - Roméo et juliette
32. Katchaturian - Spartacus
33. Stravinsky - Petrouchka
34. Alaxandre Scriabine - Poëme de l'extase
35. Tchaikovsky - Swan Lake
36. Olivier Messiaen - Des canyons aux étoiles
37. Serge Prokofiev - Pierre et le loup
38. William Russo - Street Music
39. Sibelius-Finlandia
40. Wagner - Mort de Siegfried
41. Ketèlbey - Sur un marché Persant
42. Copland - Apalachian Spring
43. Wagner - Chevauchée des Walkyries
44. Emanuel Chabrier - Espana
45. Saint Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux
46. Respighi - Fontane di Roma
47. Smetana - Ma Vlast
48. Dvorak - Serenade for string
49. Morton Gould - Spirituals for Orchestra
50. Jack Offenbach - Cancan (Orphée aux enfers)

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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby whuntva » Tue May 12, 2015 8:49 pm

Four Days!

Update on Final Poll, I think I'll be using the same formula we use for everything. But I'm not sure how long I open it.

I was thinking three months for optimal listening time and to segue into the next Unacclaimed, but given the turnout, I was thinking one month.

Any compromise?
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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby whuntva » Fri May 15, 2015 7:05 pm

One more day to go!

I kinda want to hear from at least Dan, as he was a fairly regular contributor. But I'm bumping for any last-second voters.

Thanks Honorio for sending me the finalists via PM. That makes things so convenient.
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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby Dan » Sat May 16, 2015 5:31 pm

whuntva, I'm posting from my mobile phone. Am on holiday away from home and won't be able to post my list until tomorrow evening. Hope that's okay. If that's too late, then no worries.
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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby whuntva » Sat May 16, 2015 5:48 pm

^^It's fine. Not an inconvenience at all.

Thanks to Honorio, I know the standings for the round, so adding your totals will be no problem.

I will allow you to submit late and won't post the results until after that.
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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby Dan » Sun May 17, 2015 1:57 pm

Thanks whuntva.

01 | Richard Wagner | Ride of the Valkyries
02 | Edvard Grieg | Peer Gynt Suite No. 1
03 | Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky | Swan Lake
04 | Jean Sibelius | Finlandia
05 | Modest Mussorgsky | Night on Bald Mountain
06 | Richard Strauss | Also sprach Zarathustra
07 | Gustav Holst | The Planets
08 | Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky | 1812 Overture
09 | Johannes Brahms | Hungarian Dances, Book 1
10 | George Frideric Handel | Suite in D major (from "Water Music")
11 | Georges Bizet | Carmen: Overture (Prelude)
12 | César Franck | Symphonic Variations
13 | Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky | The Nutcracker
14 | Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart | The Marriage of Figaro: Overture
15 | Johann Sebastian Bach | Orchestral Suite No. 3
16 | Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov | Scheherazade
17 | Samuel Barber | Adagio for Strings
18 | Camille Saint-Saëns | Danse Macabre
19 | Arvo Pärt | Cantus in Memorium of Benjamin Britten
20 | Claude Debussy | Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune
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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby Kingoftonga » Sun May 17, 2015 5:29 pm

1. Ralph Vaughan Williams - Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis
2. Igor Stravinsky - Firebird Suite
3. Modest Mussorgsky - Night on Bald Mountain
4. Igor Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring
5. Gustav Holst - Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity
6. Camille Saint-Saens - Danse Macabre
7. Percy Grainger - Shepherd's Hey
8. Jean Sibelius - Finlandia
9. John Adams - Short Ride in a Fast Machine
10. Edvard Grieg - Holberg Suite
11. Samuel Barber - Adagio for Strings
12. Steve Reich - Music for 18 Musicians
13. Johannes Brahms - Academic Festival Overture
14. Jean Sibelius - Serenade No. 1
15. Bedrich Smetana - Die Moldau
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16. G.F. Handel - Fireworks Suite
17. Aaron Copland - Rodeo
18. Percy Grainger - Molly on the Shore
19.Pyotr Tchaikovsky - Romeo and Juliet Fantasy Overture
20. Sergei Rachmaninoff - The Isle of the Dead

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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby whuntva » Mon May 18, 2015 12:35 am

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Re: AM Classical Poll: Other Orchestral

Postby whuntva » Mon May 18, 2015 1:50 am

Poll is closed. The Top twenty-FIVE advance this round. Honorio sent the winners, I added up the point totals.

1) Igor Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring/105 points
2) Rimsky-Korsakov - Sheherazade/86 points
3) Prokofiev-"Suite No. 2 from Romeo and Juliet"/70 points
4) Sant-Saens-Danse Macabre/66 points
5) Grieg - Peer Gynt, Suite No. 1/61 points
6) Dukas - The Sorcerer's Apprentice/60 points
7) Strauss - Also Sprach Zaratustra/60 points
8) Debussy - La mer/57 points
9) Reich - Music for 18 Musicians/57 points
10) Ravel-Bolero/55 points
11)Wagner - Ride of the Valkyries (from "The Valkyrie")/50 points
12)Ralph Vaughan Williams - Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis/50 points
13) Stravinsky-The Firebird/47 points
14)Penderecki - Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima/46 points
15) Mussorgsky-Night on Bald Mountain/44 points
16) Schönberg - Variations for Orchestra
17) Bach - Suite No. 3 in D major/40 points
18) Tchaikovsky-1812 Overture/30 points
19) Sibelius-Finlandia/31 points
20) Tchaikovsky - Swan Lake/30 points
21) Holst-The Planets/28 points
22) Bartók - Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta/26 points
23) Kashiwa-Stella/25 points
24) Milhaud - Le boeuf sur le toit/20 points
25) Sibelius - Valse triste/20 points

Honorio, I counted KingofTonga, so my vote cound differs slightly from yours.

Both Unacclaimed pieces to win their groups ("Gymnopedie" and "Stella") advance.

Final Round will be posted soon. If not later tonight, definitely tomorrow morning.
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