2014 All Time Albums Poll NOT the Results!

Listyguy · Post by **Listyguy** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:50 am

BleuPanda wrote:I'd happily do it when it comes back around, if I'm still actively here in three years. Is next year artists or songs? I'd be open to either, though I'm not sure about 1000 artists.

Also, that was meant as a "we have consistently awesome taste that I'd love to see more" post, not a "why haven't we already expanded" post. You're doing an awesome job with this!

Back in the day the polls were done every two years. I don't know when it switched to three. I guess that makes more sense since there are three polls. Next year is a songs year by the way.

DocBrown · Post by **DocBrown** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:07 am

BleuPanda wrote:I'd happily do it when it comes back around, if I'm still actively here in three years. Is next year artists or songs? I'd be open to either, though I'm not sure about 1000 artists.

Also, that was meant as a "we have consistently awesome taste that I'd love to see more" post, not a "why haven't we already expanded" post. You're doing an awesome job with this!

I was just kidding, BleuPanda; I can't even imagine doing twice as big a poll. Maybe extrapolating for 1000 albums from 500 max'm ballots might work.

The scary part is that Henrik manages this feat every year (obviously with some help from all around)

Time for a group hug

Live in Phoenix · Post by **Live in Phoenix** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:10 am

Just e-mailed about a dozen album comments, mostly for the end of the countdown. Would hate for the Top 10/Top 20 to be counted off all quiet-like!

BleuPanda · Post by **BleuPanda** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:11 am

I think 500 is the right max for an albums poll for the ballots, maybe even less (since how much did my #500 vote really effect Here's Little Richard?), but 1000 seems like a nice number for the final results. You've already created them here. I was thinking just treating the extra 500 as part of the final list instead of just extra info.

Jirin · Post by **Jirin** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:34 am

Alt-J in the 600s is a pleasant surprise. But if everyone loves An Awesome Wave how come nobody else is raving about their new one yet?

GucciLittlePiggy · Post by **GucciLittlePiggy** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:38 am

Jirin wrote:Alt-J in the 600s is a pleasant surprise. But if everyone loves An Awesome Wave how come nobody else is raving about their new one yet?

I loved An Awesome Wave, I just haven't gotten around to This Is All Yours yet. But it's high on my list of albums to listen to.

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:23 am

Did you provide the albums ranked 501-600?

DocBrown · Post by **DocBrown** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:47 am

Henry wrote:Did you provide the albums ranked 501-600?

Not yet

bootsy · Post by **bootsy** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:40 am

Good to see Sade on that list.

VanillaFire1000 · Post by **VanillaFire1000** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:06 am

BleuPanda wrote:I think 500 is the right max for an albums poll for the ballots, maybe even less (since how much did my #500 vote really effect Here's Little Richard?), but 1000 seems like a nice number for the final results. You've already created them here. I was thinking just treating the extra 500 as part of the final list instead of just extra info.

Personally I am against expanding this poll to 1000, just because there aren't enough votes to gather a statistical consensus. I already see things on my ballot that I am pretty sure no one else voted on that just my placement alone put it in the top 1000.

DocBrown · Post by **DocBrown** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:33 am

VanillaFire1000 wrote:Personally I am against expanding this poll to 1000, just because there aren't enough votes to gather a statistical consensus. I already see things on my ballot that I am pretty sure no one else voted on that just my placement alone put it in the top 1000.

While you're absolutely right that the pool is not broad enough to be statistically meaningful even at the shallow end of the 500 preferred albums, every album required at least two votes to get into the top 1000, and 981 received three or more votes. The highest ranked album with a single vote (a top-ten vote at that) was #1349. No matter how strange, someone shares your taste.

Jirin · Post by **Jirin** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:41 pm

Was I the only Hadestown vote?

I agree we shouldn't expand the ballots to 1000, because I think for most people, #501-1000 would be a list of albums they sort of like but don't feel strongly about, so it would increase the advantage to albums more people have listened to.

Jackson · Post by **Jackson** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:56 pm

Jirin wrote:Was I the only Hadestown vote?

I agree we shouldn't expand the ballots to 1000, because I think for most people, #501-1000 would be a list of albums they sort of like but don't feel strongly about, so it would increase the advantage to albums more people have listened to.

Totally agreed. But songs should definitely be 1,000. I've expanded my list over the years and definitely have 1,000 songs I love.

I wonder if anyone can do a genuine T1,000 artists list...

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:05 am

A little over half of the top 500 left and here are all the 2010's albums that have appeared so far-

1. Benji- 495
2. Lonerism- 490
3. St. Vincent- 485
4. The Age of Adz- 476
5. Strange Mercy- 458
6. Helplessness Blues- 455
7. El Camino- 440
8. It’s Album Time- 438
9. Trouble Will Find Me- 431
10. Halcyon Digest- 421
11. Bon Iver, Bon Iver- 419
12. Visions- 401
13. Have One On Me- 391
14. The Seer- 339
15. Yeezus- 330
16. This Is Happening- 319
17. Teen Dream- 296
18. Reflektor- 266

Where does that leave us in terms of 2010's heavy hitters?

MBDTF
Channel Orange
Good Kid, M.A.A.D City
The Suburbs
Modern Vampires of the City
Random Access Memories
Let England Shake
High Violet
The ArchAndroid

...That's about it, right?

DaveC · Post by **DaveC** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:38 am

Nick wrote: ...That's about it, right?

Kindred
The Idler Wheel..
Devotion
?

DocBrown · Post by **DocBrown** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:23 am

And here is the last batch of lesser winners: Nos. 501 to 600. There are no mysteries left!

501 | Fairport Convention | Liege and Lief
502 | The Replacements | Tim
503 | Tortoise | Millions Now Living Will Never Die
504 | Steely Dan | Can't Buy a Thrill
505 | Dr. Dre | The Chronic
506 | John Coltrane | My Favorite Things
507 | Gram Parsons | Grievous Angel
508 | Yes | Fragile
509 | Gorillaz | Plastic Beach
510 | Talking Heads | Talking Heads: 77
511 | Bob Marley and The Wailers | Burnin'
512 | Wes Montgomery | The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery
513 | U2 | All That You Can't Leave Behind
514 | Modest Mouse | The Moon & Antarctica
515 | Sleater-Kinney | Dig Me Out
516 | Neil Young | Zuma
517 | Soft Cell | Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret
518 | Neil Young | Ragged Glory
519 | Sleigh Bells | Treats
520 | Dennis Wilson | Pacific Ocean Blue
521 | New York Dolls | New York Dolls
522 | System of a Down | Toxicity
523 | Jethro Tull | Aqualung
524 | Tim Buckley | Happy Sad
525 | Joni Mitchell | Hejira
526 | The Streets | A Grand Don't Come for Free
527 | Ennio Morricone | Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo / The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
528 | Big Star | The Third Album/Sister Lovers
529 | My Morning Jacket | Z
530 | Can | Ege Bamyasi
531 | Black Sabbath | Black Sabbath
532 | XTC | English Settlement
533 | Built to Spill | Keep It Like a Secret
534 | Low | Things We Lost in the Fire
535 | Brian Wilson | SMiLE
536 | Nina Simone | Little Girl Blue/Jazz As Played in an Exclusive Side Street Club
537 | Kraftwerk | Autobahn
538 | Belle and Sebastian | The Life Pursuit
539 | Pet Shop Boys | Behaviour
540 | U2 | Zooropa
541 | Howlin' Wolf | Moanin' in the Moonlight
542 | Boards of Canada | Geogaddi
543 | Steve Reich | Music for 18 Musicians
544 | The Moody Blues | Days of Future Passed
545 | Fiona Apple | The Idler Wheel…
546 | Hole | Live Through This
547 | Iron Maiden | The Number of the Beast
548 | The Sound | Jeopardy
549 | Run-D.M.C. | Raising Hell
550 | The Boo Radleys | Giant Steps
551 | Swans | To Be Kind
552 | Bruce Springsteen | Tunnel of Love
553 | George Michael | Faith
554 | The Wrens (II) | The Meadowlands
555 | Coldplay | Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends
556 | Howlin' Wolf | Howlin' Wolf
557 | Paul McCartney | Ram
558 | Neil Young | Freedom
559 | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares
560 | Duran Duran | Rio
561 | Eric Dolphy | Out to Lunch!
562 | Joni Mitchell | The Hissing of Summer Lawns
563 | Lou Reed | New York
564 | Genesis | The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
565 | Augustus Pablo | King Tubbys Meets Rockers Uptown
566 | Led Zeppelin | Led Zeppelin III
567 | The Chemical Brothers | Dig Your Own Hole
568 | PJ Harvey | Dry
569 | Tom Waits | Closing Time
570 | Burial | Kindred
571 | The Chameleons | Script of the Bridge
572 | Spoon | Kill the Moonlight
573 | Erykah Badu | Baduizm
574 | The Beach Boys | The SMiLE Sessions
575 | Billie Holiday | Lady in Satin
576 | The War on Drugs | Lost in the Dream
577 | Otis Redding | Complete & Unbelievable: The Otis Redding Dictionary of Soul
578 | Red Hot Chili Peppers | Californication
579 | Thelonious Monk | Brilliant Corners
580 | The Kinks | Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire)
581 | The Byrds | The Notorious Byrd Brothers
582 | Morrissey | You Are the Quarry
583 | The Cure | Pornography
584 | Beastie Boys | Ill Communication
585 | Hank Williams | Moanin' the Blues
586 | Simple Minds | New Gold Dream (81,82,83,84)
587 | Sleater-Kinney | The Woods
588 | Modest Mouse | Good News for People Who Love Bad News
589 | Marianne Faithfull | Broken English
590 | Eurythmics | Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This...)
591 | Massive Attack | Protection
592 | Ride | Nowhere
593 | Madonna | Like a Virgin
594 | The Smiths | Meat Is Murder
595 | Bob Dylan | The Times They Are A-Changin'
596 | Wire | 154
597 | Muse | Absolution
598 | U2 | Boy
599 | Eels | Beautiful Freak
600 | Dirty Projectors | Bitte Orca

Pierre · Post by **Pierre** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:04 am

A bunch of my favourites in this last batch, dang. But once again, it shows that the selection from 500 to 1000, albeit statistically insignificant, is filled with very strong albums. People here have great tastes.

Listyguy · Post by **Listyguy** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:10 pm

Nick wrote: 7. El Camino- 440

...That's about it, right?

Perhaps Brothers?

Jirin · Post by **Jirin** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:02 pm

Some great albums landed in the 501-600 range, a few I'm a bit surprised didn't make it to the top 500. Sleater-Kinney's best albums, Z, Liege and Lief, Grievous Angel.

Nassim · Post by **Nassim** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:58 pm

Jirin wrote:Some great albums landed in the 501-600 range, a few I'm a bit surprised didn't make it to the top 500. Sleater-Kinney's best albums, Z, Liege and Lief, Grievous Angel.

I'm quite surprised One Beat did better than Dig Me Out (The Woods is a bit too abrasive for AM forum's tastes so that's less of a surprise). Sleater-Kinney never did that well in polls around here so one album in the top 500 is already a nice showing.

After seeing C'Mon and I Could Live In Hope, I had some, well, hope that Things We Lost In The Fire would make it to the top 500 !

Neither Dry nor Rid of Me, and Rid of Me as low as 784, that's quite a surprise !

BleuPanda · Post by **BleuPanda** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:00 pm

No Modest Mouse in the top 500? That's sad. I just recently decided I liked them and shoved The Moon and Antarctica up to my #48.

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:03 pm

Zorg · Post by **Zorg** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:05 pm

I would be SHOCKED (and very saddened) if Moby's Play didn't make it in.

But knowing you Harold, you're probably right.

Zorg · Post by **Zorg** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:06 pm

BleuPanda wrote:No Modest Mouse in the top 500? That's sad. I just recently decided I liked them and shoved The Moon and Antarctica up to my #48.

This is also very sad

Albums polls are so painful!!

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:10 pm

Zorg wrote:I would be SHOCKED (and very saddened) if Moby's Play didn't make it in.

But knowing you Harold, you're probably right.

It would surprise me, too, but I looked and looked at the list of what's left and it seemed like a potentially logical choice. Here are some others, though, that I'm not 100% sure about:

300 Paul McCartney | Band on the Run
330 Belle and Sebastian | Tigermilk
332 Gorillaz | Demon Days
350 Original Soundtrack | The Harder They Come
403 Eminem | The Marshall Mathers LP
444 Aretha Franklin | Lady Soul

But it's very, very difficult to see any of these failing to make the top 1000.

There's one other album from 2011's 400-500 range that hasn't appeared yet, but it's hard to imagine Burial's Untrue not making it into the top 240.

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:18 pm

Personally, I'm stunned that Elvis Costello's Armed Forces and Get Happy!! both fell short of the top 1000. I'm also sad that the New York Dolls' debut didn't make the top 500 this time. But I'm thrilled that the two Game Theory albums made it into the top 1000.

DocBrown · Post by **DocBrown** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:26 pm

Harold wrote:Personally, I'm stunned that Elvis Costello's Armed Forces and Get Happy!! both fell short of the top 1000. I'm also sad that the New York Dolls' debut didn't make the top 500 this time. But I'm thrilled that the two Game Theory albums made it into the top 1000.

????????
Both Elvis Costello are in the top 500 I think. (Sorry I can't check, I'm on my phone)

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:30 pm

DocBrown wrote:
Harold wrote:Personally, I'm stunned that Elvis Costello's Armed Forces and Get Happy!! both fell short of the top 1000. I'm also sad that the New York Dolls' debut didn't make the top 500 this time. But I'm thrilled that the two Game Theory albums made it into the top 1000.
????????
Both Elvis Costello are in the top 500 I think. (Sorry I can't check, I'm on my phone)

Aarrgghh. Can't believe I did that. Of course, you're right, they're present and accounted for, as they should be. Serves me right for not double-checking.

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:12 pm

Harold wrote:
Zorg wrote:I would be SHOCKED (and very saddened) if Moby's Play didn't make it in.

But knowing you Harold, you're probably right.
It would surprise me, too, but I looked and looked at the list of what's left and it seemed like a potentially logical choice.

So, as it turns out, there's an extra spot available. Here's what I've been doing: I made a copy of the 2011 top 500 to serve as a checklist, and as each new group of poll entries (along with the 501-1000 lists) is revealed I've been deleting them. But Doc accidentally left out the 2011 rank for I Am a Bird Now on the Results thread, which means that I didn't delete it from the checklist. Which means that there are actually 260 albums (not 261) from the 2011 top 500 yet to be accounted for. Which means 24 "odd albums out," not 25. Which means - I'm reasonably certain - that Moby is back in the game. (I still can't see Scott 3 landing in this top 240.)

Nassim · Post by **Nassim** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:24 am

Harold wrote: Here are the 25 that I think are not going to make it, listed by their 2011 ranks:

354 Tracy Chapman | Tracy Chapman |

473 Animal Collective | Feels |

I'd bet on Tracy Chapman on the top 240 more than on Moby's Play.
And I'll be very disappointed when it will be confirmed Feels isn't in the top 1000, such a masterpiece !

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:22 am

Nassim wrote:I'd bet on Tracy Chapman on the top 240 more than on Moby's Play.
And I'll be very disappointed when it will be confirmed Feels isn't in the top 1000, such a masterpiece !

Nassim, you might want to go to the Results thread... All this speculation is moot, for now.

Penguin · Post by **Penguin** » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:26 pm

Ah, I see in my absence there's been a new poll. Excited to see the Top 100 of so in case I've missed anything lately. Too bad I came too late to participate, who's going to prop up In the Aeroplane Over the Sea in my absence?

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:13 pm

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:22 pm

It looks like it's down to "The Suburbs" and "Channel Orange" for the battle of "which 2010's album can finish second to MBDTF?"

DocBrown · Post by **DocBrown** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:10 pm

Harold wrote:At this writing, Doc Brown has posted #'s 131-500, and let's face it - the only surprises left involve the rankings.

Ah, I wish I still had a rabbit or two to pull out of my hat, but Harold is (as usual) correct. Once again, Harold, thank you for contributing your textbook knowledge of the AM lists to this year's poll. I feel like you should be credited as my co-author.

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:15 pm

DocBrown wrote:
Harold wrote:At this writing, Doc Brown has posted #'s 131-500, and let's face it - the only surprises left involve the rankings.
Ah, I wish I still had a rabbit or two to pull out of my hat, but Harold is (as usual) correct. Once again, Harold, thank you for contributing your textbook knowledge of the AM lists to this year's poll. I feel like you should be credited as my co-author.

Doc, thank you.

GucciLittlePiggy · Post by **GucciLittlePiggy** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:04 pm

I'm shocked Tigermilk will be omitted from this year's poll, considering how highly If You're Feeling Sinister ranked. That's my only qualm with an otherwise fantastic list.

On the bright side for me, it appears that 11 of my top 20 album have yet to appear on the list (not including Linkin Park's A Thousand Suns, which I doubt will find itself in our top 150).

whuntva · Post by **whuntva** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:22 pm

I'm doing just fine.

Only two albums missed out on the Top 500. And they were from Rush and Dream Theater, who aren't exactly forum darlings.

Oh well, you can't win 'em all.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:23 pm

Here's what the 2010's albums that have appeared in the top 500 look like, ordered from top to bottom, with the names of the top 3 known, yet their positions currently TBA.

This should give us a good insight into what a hypothetical "top albums of the half decade" AM poll would look like...

28. Contra- 497
27. Treats- 478
26. Strange Mercy- 477
25. El Camino- 459
24. Trouble Will Find Me- 450
23. Bon Iver, Bon Iver- 438
22. Benji- 437
21. Lonerism- 427
20. The Age of Adz- 426
19. Visions- 424
18. Helplessness Blues- 412
17. It’s Album Time- 399
16. The Seer- 347
15. Halcyon Digest- 345
14. Have One On Me- 342
13. Teen Dream- 309
12. This Is Happening- 305
11. Reflektor- 281
10. Yeezus- 255
9. Good Kid, M.A.A.D City- 172
8. Modern Vampires of the City- 171
7. Random Access Memories- 153
6. Let England Shake- 136
5. High Violet- 135
4. The ArchAndroid- 134

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:35 am

Harold wrote:There are now exactly 80 albums left unaccounted for from the top 250 of our 2011 poll (the lowest-ranked of these is Post, #233). They will fill the remaining 80 slots.

Amending this slightly from before, to reflect where the list now stands as well as the fact that I missed that there was one yet-to-appear album ranked lower in 2011 than Off the Wall. Doesn't affect my predictions in the slightest - I just forgot where Post was ranked in 2011.

Biggest winners in this poll, based on what's left: Bjork and Bruce Springsteen. The Icelandic wonder didn't place a single album in our top 100 last time around; now she's going to have three. As for Springsteen, two albums that missed the top 100 in 2011 are going to be in our top 80 for 2014 (in addition to the ever-popular Born to Run). Turning 65 like a Boss!

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:43 pm

And then - as of this writing, anyway - there were 50.

One artist will have five albums in the top 50. Two will have four. One will have three. Two will have two. The rest will have one.

Can't wait to see where they all end up!

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:58 pm

Beatles, Stones and Dylan appear to account for the most in the top 50. My guess is that Radiohead will have at least two in the top 50. I expect that the Velvet Underground will have an album in the top 2-3 places as will Radiohead. I wonder which other performer will place an album in top 3. Perhaps the Beatles or Beach Boys.

Listyguy · Post by **Listyguy** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:26 pm

Harold can probably verify, but it appears that two albums that were in the high 60s (66 and 68 I believe) three years ago are still around: Rain Dogs and Rumours.
Of the two, the Fleetwood Mac album is the more surprising addition to the top 45, while I'm surprised the Waits album finished that low last time.

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:36 pm

Listyguy wrote:Harold can probably verify, but it appears that two albums that were in the high 60s (66 and 68 I believe) three years ago are still around: Rain Dogs and Rumours.
Of the two, the Fleetwood Mac album is the more surprising addition to the top 45, while I'm surprised the Waits album finished that low last time.

Correct, both albums have yet to appear. I'm kind of surprised to see Dummy finishing this high, too, although it just missed the top 50 in 2011 so maybe I shouldn't be.

whuntva · Post by **whuntva** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:44 pm

Love this poll!

All the picks are good.

No qualms with MBDTF at #69. That's six lower than I gave it.

As soon as I work out the bugs with Moonbeam's program, I can formulate a less "arbitrary" list.

But this one is pretty good.

GucciLittlePiggy · Post by **GucciLittlePiggy** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:07 pm

My prediction for the order of the top five:
5. Ziggy Stardust
4. London Calling
3. VU
2. Pet Sounds
1. OK Computer

Rocky Raccoon · Post by **Rocky Raccoon** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:09 pm

5. London Calling
4. Ziggy Stardust
3. Pet Sounds
2. VU
1. OK Computer

Harold · Post by **Harold** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:11 pm

5. Ziggy Stardust
4. London Calling
3. Pet Sounds
2. VU & Nico
1. OK Computer

Zorg · Post by **Zorg** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:15 pm

1. OK Computer
2. Velvet Underground and Nico
3. London Calling
4. Pet Sounds
5. Ziggy Stardust

chevisan · Post by **chevisan** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:17 pm

5. London Calling
4. Ziggy Stardust
3. Pet Sounds
2. VU & Nico
1. OK Computer