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Non-English Albums/Songs Ranked on AM

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In preparation for the upcoming non-English language albums/songs poll that I'm going to launch, I put together a list of every album in the top 3,000 and song in the top 10,000 on AM sung in a language other than English. To be included, an album/song needed to have sung vocals in a primary language other than English. Instrumentals from artists outside the Anglosphere were not included, nor were artists from non-English speaking countries that sing in English (like Bjork, Daft Punk, or Can, though I included artists that record their songs in multiple languages, most notably Kraftwerk). For works that are bilingual, I looked at a few different factors to figure out whether they should be included (is around 50% or above sung in another language? what country is the artist from? do they typically sing in English or other languages?). This criteria will be the same for the poll.

I hope you all find this to be a helpful resource. Please let me know if I missed anything that fits the above criteria or if there is anything listed below you feel should not be included!

Albums (116 of the top 3,000, or 3.8%):
117 | Kraftwerk | Trans Europa Express/Trans-Europe Express | 1977
231 | Sigur Rós | Agætis byrjun | 1999
252 | Kraftwerk | Die Mensch Maschine/The Man Machine | 1978
321 | Serge Gainsbourg | Histoire de Melody Nelson | 1971
328 | Kraftwerk | Autobahn | 1974
388 | Stan Getz and João Gilberto | Getz/Gilberto [featuring Antônio Carlos Jobim] | 1964
410 | Buena Vista Social Club | Buena Vista Social Club | 1997
433 | Kraftwerk | Computerwelt/Computer World | 1981
486 | Manu Chao | Clandestino | 1998
545 | Sigur Rós | ( ) | 2002
619 | King Sunny Adé | Juju Music | 1982
635 | Rosalía | El mal querer | 2018
803 | Les Rita Mitsouko | The No Comprendo | 1986
855 | Os Mutantes | Os Mutantes | 1968
905 | Tito Puente | Dance Mania | 1958
960 | Salif Keita | Soro | 1987
972 | Alain Bashung | Fantaisie Militaire | 1998
979 | Blumfeld | L'Etat Et Moi | 1994
980 | Fehlfarben | Monarchie und Alltag | 1980
1000 | Youssou N'Dour | Immigres / Bitim Rew | 1984
1024 | Sigur Rós | Takk... | 2005
1044 | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | 1975
1054 | Miossec | Boire | 1995
1089 | Noir Désir | Tostaky | 1992
1126 | Mano Negra | Puta's Fever | 1989
1253 | Kraftwerk | Radio-Aktivität/Radio-Activity | 1975
1268 | Cesária Évora | Miss Perfumado | 1992
1348 | Milton Nascimento & Lô Borges | Clube da esquina | 1972
1355 | Serge Gainsbourg | Aux armes et caetera | 1979
1392 | Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan | Mustt Mustt | 1990
1394 | Benjamin Biolay | La Superbe | 2009
1398 | Tocotronic | Digital Ist Besser | 1995
1410 | Einstürzende Neubauten | Kollaps | 1981
1435 | Michel Polnareff | Polnareff's | 1971
1454 | Rubén Blades | Buscando América | 1984
1459 | Serge Gainsbourg | L'homme à tête de chou | 1976
1480 | Ali Farka Touré with Ry Cooder | Talking Timbuktu | 1994
1510 | Einstürzende Neubauten | 1/2 Mensch | 1985
1522 | Caetano Veloso | Caetano Veloso | 1968
1531 | Serge Gainsbourg | Initials B. B. | 1968
1569 | Caetano Veloso | Estrangeiro | 1989
1602 | Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft | Alles ist gut | 1981
1624 | Babatunde Olatunji | Drums of Passion | 1960
1689 | Brigitte Fontaine & Art Ensemble of Chicago | Comme à la Radio | 1970
1698 | Nina Hagen Band | Nina Hagen Band | 1978
1706 | Jorge Ben | Samba Esquema Novo | 1963
1712 | João Gilberto | Chega De Saudade | 1959
1724 | Khaled | Khaled | 1992
1725 | Orchestra Baobab | Vol. 1: Senegambie/Vol. 2: Ngalam/Ken Dou Werente/Pirates Choice | 1982
1728 | Sigur Rós | Med sud i eyrum vid spilum endalaust | 2008
1759 | Camarón | La leyenda del tiempo | 1979
1796 | Various Artists | Tropicália ou Panis et Circencis | 1968
1812 | Amadou & Mariam | Dimanche à Bamako | 2004
1837 | Blumfeld | Old Nobody | 1999
1846 | Suprême NTM | Paris sous les bombes | 1995
1870 | Baaba Maal & Mansour Seck | Djam Leelii | 1983
1879 | Christine and The Queens | Chris | 2018
1905 | Ketama/Toumani Diabaté/Danny Thompson | Songhai | 1988
1919 | João Gilberto | Amoroso | 1977
1921 | Håkan Hellström | Känn ingen sorg för mig Göteborg | 2000
1938 | Alain Bashung | Play Blessures | 1982
1950 | Salif Keita | Moffou | 2002
1965 | Jacques Brel | Brel | 1977
1999 | Pata Negra | Blues de la frontera | 1988
2022 | João Gilberto | João Gilberto | 1973
2056 | Bérurier Noir | Concerto pour détraqués | 1985
2057 | Joan Manuel Serrat | Mediterráneo | 1971
2060 | PFM | Storia di un Minuto | 1972
2082 | Ton Steine Scherben | Keine Macht für Niemand | 1972
2121 | Jorge Ben | África Brasil | 1976
2145 | Radio Futura | La canción de Juan Perro | 1987
2174 | Gotan Project | La revancha del tango | 2001
2212 | Noir Désir | Des Visages des Figures | 2001
2216 | Konono No. 1 | Congotronics | 2005
2217 | El Guincho | Pop negro | 2010
2253 | Chico Buarque | Construção | 1971
2254 | Caetano Veloso | Transa | 1972
2260 | Dominique A. | La mémoire neuve | 1995
2281 | Magma | Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandöh | 1973
2322 | Tom Zé | Estudando o samba | 1976
2331 | Bilderbuch | Schick Schock | 2015
2337 | Kiko Veneno | Échate un cantecito | 1992
2340 | Gabinete Caligari | Cuatro rosas | 1984
2353 | Dungen | Ta det lugnt | 2004
2389 | Tinariwen | Aman Iman: Water is Life | 2007
2420 | Ali Farka Touré | Savane | 2006
2421 | Alaska y Dinarama | Deseo carnal | 1984
2432 | Element of Crime | Weißes Papier | 1993
2477 | El Guincho | Alegranza | 2007
2496 | Christine and The Queens | Chaleur Humaine / Christine and The Queens | 2014
2497 | Radio Futura | La ley del desierto, La ley del mar | 1984
2503 | Elis Regina & Antonio Carlos Jobim | Elis & Tom | 1974
2510 | Jorge Ben | A Tábua de Esmeralda | 1974
2528 | Lucio Dalla | Lucio Dalla | 1979
2537 | Gilberto Gil | Gilberto Gil | 1968
2544 | Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan | Devotional Songs/Devotional & Love Songs | 1992
2571 | Fabrizio De André | Crêuza de mä | 1984
2595 | Manu Chao | ...próxima estación...Esperanza | 2001
2615 | Rachid Taha | Diwan | 1998
2623 | Sepultura | Chaos A.D. | 1993
2626 | Los Planetas | Una semana en el motor de un autobús | 1998
2650 | Tinariwen | Imidiwan: Companions | 2009
2692 | MC Solaar | Prose combat | 1994
2729 | Marquis de Sade | Rue De Siam | 1981
2745 | Mahmoud Ahmed | Eré Méla Méla/Ethiopiques 7 | 1975
2760 | Dënver | Musica, gramatica, gimnasia | 2010
2792 | Ali Farka Touré | The River | 1990
2811 | Mbongwana Star | From Kinshasa | 2015
2842 | Gilberto Gil / Jorge Ben | Ogum Xangô/Gil & Jorge | 1975
2872 | Os Novos Baianos | Acabou Chorare | 1972
2910 | La Femme | Psycho Tropical Berlin | 2013
2967 | Secos & Molhados | Secos & Molhados | 1973
2974 | Youssou N'Dour | Nelson Mandela | 1985
2981 | MC Solaar | Qui sème le vent récolte le tempo | 1991
2995 | Ladysmith Black Mambazo | Shaka Zulu | 1987
2997 | Gilberto Gil | Expresso 2222 | 1972
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Songs (514 of the top 10,000, or 5.1%):
184 | Kraftwerk | Autobahn | 1974
237 | Stan Getz | The Girl from Ipanema | 1964
254 | Ritchie Valens | La Bamba | 1958
257 | Kraftwerk | Das Modell/The Model | 1978
305 | Edith Piaf | La Vie en rose | 1945
308 | Serge Gainsbourg | Je t'aime moi non plus | 1969
507 | Kraftwerk | Trans-Europa Express/Trans-Europe Express | 1977
544 | Jacques Brel | Ne me quitte pas | 1959
583 | Rosalía | Malamente (Cap.1: Augurio) | 2018
915 | Elis Regina | Aguas de marco | 1974
1064 | Manu Dibango | Soul Makossa | 1972
1123 | Serge Gainsbourg | Bonnie & Clyde | 1968
1135 | Manu Chao | Clandestino | 1998
1167 | Rosalía and J Balvin feat. El Guincho | Con altura | 2019
1283 | Domenico Modugno | Nel blu, dipinto di blu ("Volare") | 1958
1294 | Lydia Mendoza | Mal Hombre | 1934
1301 | Amadou & Mariam | Sabali | 2008
1389 | Kraftwerk | Die Roboter/The Robots | 1978
1413 | Sigur Rós | Hoppípolla | 2005
1470 | Sigur Rós | Svefn-G-Englar | 1999
1499 | Santana | Oye Como Va | 1970
1517 | Los Fabulosos Cadillacs | Matador | 1993
1663 | Kraftwerk | Radioaktivität/Radioactivity | 1975
1679 | Françoise Hardy | Tous les garçons et les filles | 1962
1699 | Youssou N'Dour | Immigres/Bitim Rew | 1984
1748 | Plastic Bertrand | Ca plane pour moi | 1977
1795 | Nena | 99 Luftballons | 1983
1808 | Kraftwerk | Computer Liebe/Computer Love | 1981
1816 | Yves Montand | Les Feuilles mortes | 1949
1897 | Yaeji | Raingurl | 2017
1914 | Léo Ferré | Avec le temps | 1971
1994 | Serge Gainsbourg | Requiem pour un con | 1968
2048 | Panjabi MC | Mundian to Bach Ke / Beware of the Boys | 2003
2075 | Mano Negra | Mala vida | 1988
2101 | Soda Stereo | De música ligera | 1990
2111 | Don Azpiazu | El Manisero (The Peanut Vendor) | 1930
2124 | Les Rita Mitsouko | Marcia baila | 1984
2142 | Air | Le Soleil est près de moi | 1997
2178 | Charles Aznavour | La Boheme | 1965
2202 | Youssou N'Dour | 7 Seconds | 1994
2221 | Os Mutantes | A Minha Menina | 1968
2236 | Jacques Dutronc | Et moi, et moi, et moi | 1966
2247 | Stan Getz | Desafinado | 1962
2278 | João Gilberto | Chega de Saudade | 1958
2309 | Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan | Mustt Mustt | 1990
2359 | Gilbert Bécaud | Et maintenant | 1961
2524 | Edith Piaf | Non, je ne regrette rien | 1960
2640 | Boris Vian | Le Déserteur | 1955
2729 | Alain Bashung | La nuit je mens | 1998
2733 | Peggy Gou | Starry Night | 2019
2750 | Jorge Ben | Taj Mahal | 1972
2751 | Almendra | Muchacha (Ojos de papel) | 1969
2756 | Miriam Makeba | Pata pata | 1967
2766 | Gérard Manset | Il voyage en solitaire | 1975
2801 | Benjamin Biolay | La Superbe | 2009
2806 | Christine and the Queens feat. Dâm-Funk | Girlfriend / Damn, dis-moi | 2018
2818 | Carlos Gardel | El dia que me quieras | 1935
2836 | Joseph Falcon | Allons à Lafayette | 1928
2928 | Serge Gainsbourg | Le Poinçonneur des Lilas | 1958
2955 | Arca | Desafío | 2017
2968 | El Guincho | Bombay | 2010
2992 | Café Tacvba | Eres | 2003
3011 | Georges Brassens | Les Copains d'abord | 1964
3012 | Serge Gainsbourg | Ballade de Melody Nelson | 1971
3013 | Buena Vista Social Club | Chan Chan | 1997
3050 | Kraftwerk | Nummern/Numbers | 1981
3056 | Noir Désir | Le Vent nous portera | 2001
3080 | Jacques Brel | Amsterdam | 1964
3105 | Caetano Veloso | Alegria, Alegria | 1967
3143 | Chico Buarque | Construção | 1971
3161 | Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee | Despacito / Despacito (Remix feat. Justin Bieber) | 2017
3204 | Kraftwerk | Tour De France | 1983
3209 | Rosalía | Pienso En Tu Mirá (Cap.3: Celos) | 2018
3230 | Enrico Caruso | O sole mio | 1916
3231 | Christine and The Queens | Christine [2014]/Tilted [2015] | 2014
3243 | Peggy Gou | It Makes You Forget (Itgehane) | 2018
3264 | Khaled | Didi | 1992
3287 | Carlos Gardel | Volver | 1935
3308 | Aterciopelados | Bolero falaz | 1995
3347 | Les Rita Mitsouko | C'est comme ça | 1986
3374 | Mano Negra | Señor Matanza | 1994
3383 | Blumfeld | Tausend Tränen tief | 1999
3397 | Soda Stereo | Cuando pase el temblor | 1985
3400 | Mory Kanté | Ye Ke Ye Ke | 1987
3429 | Sigur Rós | Gobbledigook | 2008
3500 | Molotov | Gimme Tha Power | 1997
3514 | Jorge Ben | Mas, que nada! | 1963
3520 | Natalia Lafourcade | Hasta la raíz | 2015
3555 | Café Tacvba | La Ingrata | 1994
3559 | Antoine | Les Elucubrations d'Antoine | 1966
3564 | Andrés Calamaro | Flaca | 1997
3596 | Henri Salvador | Syracuse | 1963
3607 | J Balvin feat. Willy William | Mi Gente / Mi Gente (Remix feat. Beyoncé) | 2017
3627 | Adriano Celentano | Il ragazzo della Via Gluck | 1966
3637 | Khaled | Aïcha | 1996
3707 | Enrico Caruso | Vesti la giubba | 1907
3711 | Los Rodriguez | Sin documentos | 1993
3774 | Taxi Girl | Cherchez le garçon | 1980
3788 | Fito Páez | El amor después del amor | 1992
3938 | Carla Bruni | Quelqu'un m'a dit | 2002
3949 | Kraftwerk | Schaufensterpuppen/Showroom Dummies | 1977
3960 | Los Lobos | La Bamba | 1987
3979 | Jacques Dutronc | Les Playboys | 1966
4000 | Edith Piaf | Hymne à l'amour | 1950
4047 | La Ley | El duelo | 1995
4058 | Los Gatos | La balsa | 1967
4075 | Edith Piaf | La Foule | 1958
4083 | Os Mutantes | Panis et circenses | 1968
4086 | Fabrizio De André | Crêuza de mä | 1984
4106 | Claude François | Comme d'habitude | 1967
4135 | Christophe | Les Mots bleus | 1974
4157 | Camarón de la Isla | La leyenda del tiempo | 1979
4187 | Françoise Hardy | Message personnel | 1973
4190 | La Unión | Lobo hombre en París | 1984
4202 | Gipsy Kings | Bamboleo | 1988
4218 | Nino Ferrer | Le Sud | 1975
4219 | Jacques Dutronc | (Il est 5 heures) Paris s'éveille | 1968
4227 | El Tri | Triste canción | 1984
4246 | Serge Gainsbourg | Initials B.B | 1967
4247 | Luiz Gonzaga | Asa Branca | 1947
4266 | Manu Chao | Me gustas tú | 2001
4277 | Jacques Brel | Orly | 1977
4278 | Téléphone | Un autre monde | 1984
4295 | Lucienne Boyer | Parlez-moi d'amour | 1930
4315 | Trio | Da da da ich lieb dich nicht du liebst mich nicht aha aha aha | 1982
4354 | Cesária Évora | Sodade | 1992
4365 | Caifanes | La célula que explota | 1990
4375 | Lucio Dalla | Com'e profondo il mare | 1977
4381 | Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 | Mas que nada | 1966
4386 | Jeans Team | Das Zelt | 2006
4390 | Enanitos Verdes | Lamento Boliviano | 1994
4393 | Gino Paoli | Sapore di sale | 1963
4405 | Miguel Ríos | Bienvenidos | 1982
4419 | Trio Matamoros | Lágrimas negras | 1932
4455 | Los Abuelos de la Nada | Mil horas | 1983
4458 | Sui Generis | Rasguña las piedras | 1973
4481 | Michel Polnareff | Le Bal des laze | 1968
4492 | Serge Gainsbourg | La Javanaise | 1963
4518 | Soda Stereo | Persiana Americana | 1986
4532 | Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft | Der Mussolini | 1981
4540 | Alain Bashung | Vertige de l'amour | 1980
4560 | Paolo Conte | Via con me | 1981
4616 | Bersuit Vergarabat | Sr. Cobranza | 1998
4626 | Georges Brassens | Le Mauvaise réputation | 1952
4644 | Georges Brassens | Le gorille | 1952
4661 | Los Del Río | Macarena | 1993
4698 | Barbara | Ma plus belle histoire d'amour | 1966
4813 | Alain Bashung | Madame Rêve | 1991
4835 | Barbara | Göttingen | 1965
4843 | Triángulo de Amor Bizarro | De la monarquía a la criptocracia | 2010
4870 | Virus | Imágenes paganas | 1986
4879 | Babasónicos | Putita | 2003
4891 | Mocedades  | Eres Tú | 1973
4925 | Rosalía | Aute cuture | 2019
4933 | Jeanne Moreau | Le Tourbillon | 1962
4963 | Sigur Rós | Staralfur | 1999
4976 | Bola De Nieve | Vete de mi | 1958
4983 | Kraftwerk | Die Mensch-Maschine/The Man Machine | 1978
4996 | Rubén Blades | Desapariciones | 1984
5037 | Charly García | Los Dinosaurios | 1983
5067 | Manu Chao | Desaparecido | 1998
5104 | Kyu Sakamoto | Ue o muite aruk?/Sukiyaki | 1961
5110 | Natalia Lafourcade | Azul | 2009
5118 | Conjunto Bernal | Mi unica camino | 1958
5159 | Familjen | Det snurrar i min skalle | 2007
5173 | Enanitos Verdes | La muralla verde | 1986
5174 | La Maldita Vecindad y Los Hijos del Quinto Patio | Pachuco | 1991
5176 | Daniel Balavoine | L'Aziza | 1985
5207 | Alaska y Dinarama | A quién le importa | 1986
5260 | León Gieco | Sólo le pido a dios | 1979
5298 | Los Brincos | Mejor | 1966
5305 | Mano Negra | Pas assez de toi | 1989
5324 | Les Rita Mitsouko | Andy | 1986
5326 | Mistinguett | Mon homme | 1916
5381 | Caifanes | Afuera | 1994
5388 | Kraftwerk | Taschenrechner/Pocket Calculator | 1981
5400 | Gustavo Cerati | Puente | 1999
5407 | Jean Ferrat | La Montagne | 1964
5411 | Michel Polnareff | La Poupée qui fait non | 1966
5433 | Barbara | L'Aigle Noir | 1970
5440 | William Sheller | Un homme heureux | 1991
5463 | Alain Bashung | Osez Josephine | 1991
5482 | Francis Cabrel | Je l'aime à mourir | 1979
5486 | Tocotronic | Hi Freaks | 2002
5510 | Edith Piaf | Milord | 1959
5550 | Soda Stereo | En la ciudad de la furia | 1988
5574 | Ray Ventura et ses Collégiens | Tout va très bien madame la marquise | 1935
5592 | BTS feat. Halsey | Boy with Luv | 2019
5616 | El Guincho | Palmitos Park | 2007
5618 | Illya Kuryaki & The Valderramas | Abarájame | 1995
5627 | El Último de la Fila | Insurrección | 1986
5665 | Charles Aznavour | Je m'voyais deja | 1960
5694 | Alain Bashung | Gaby Oh! Gaby | 1980
5700 | Noir Désir | L'homme pressé | 1997
5701 | Carmen Miranda | O que é que a Bahiana tem | 1939
5705 | King Sunny Adé | Ja funmi | 1982
5737 | Michel Fugain | Une belle histoire | 1972
5772 | Ofra Haza | Im nin'alu | 1984
5778 | Tocotronic | Let There Be Rock | 1999
5808 | Caifanes | Viento | 1988
5814 | Charly García | Demoliendo hoteles | 1984
5831 | Molotov | Frijolero | 2003
5842 | Alain Souchon | Foule sentimentale | 1993
5862 | Kraftwerk | Computerwelt/Computer World | 1981
5878 | Josephine Baker | J'ai deux amours | 1930
5887 | Hombres G | Devuélveme a mi chica | 1985
5905 | Caetano Veloso | Tropicália | 1968
5958 | Brigitte Bardot | Harley Davidson | 1967
5983 | Serge Gainsbourg | Je suis venu te dire que je m'en vais | 1973
5994 | Jorge Ben | Ponta de Lança Africano (Umbabarauma) | 1976
6002 | Alejandro Sanz | Corazón partío | 1997
6007 | Maxime Le Forestier | San Francisco | 1971
6011 | Serge Gainsbourg | L'eau à la bouche | 1960
6025 | Françoise Hardy | Comment te dire adieu | 1968
6028 | Café Tacvba | Las Flores | 1994
6041 | Javiera Mena | Al siguiente nivel | 2006
6069 | Gustavo Cerati | Crimen | 2006
6077 | Héroes del Silencio | Entre dos tierras | 1990
6078 | Barbara | Dis, quand reviendras-tu? | 1964
6084 | Sui Generis | Canción para mi muerte | 1972
6092 | Flaco Jimenez | Ay te dejo en San Antonio | 1986
6099 | Chaba Fadela | N'Sel Fik | 1983
6134 | Alaska y Dinarama | Ni tú ni nadie | 1984
6162 | Adriano Celentano | Prisencolinensinaiciusol | 1973
6171 | Yves Simon | Au pays des merveilles de Juliet | 1972
6181 | Los Fabulosos Cadillacs feat. Celia Cruz | Vasos vacíos | 1988
6185 | IAM | Je danse le Mia | 1993
6186 | Georges Moustaki | Le métèque | 1969
6225 | Les Negresses Vertes | Zobi la mouche | 1989
6257 | Chavela Vargas | La llorona | 1961
6260 | João Gilberto | Desafinado | 1959
6289 | Barbara | Nantes | 1964
6300 | Serge Reggiani | Sarah | 1967
6316 | Bilderbuch | Maschin | 2013
6326 | Sumo | La rubia tarada | 1985
6335 | Rammstein | Du hast | 1997
6355 | Georges Brassens | Chanson pour l'Auvergnat | 1954
6375 | Henri Salvador | Le loup, la biche et le chevalier | 1950
6412 | Orchestra Baobab | Coumba | 1982
6438 | Kent | Dom andra | 2002
6446 | Laurent Voulzy | Belle-Île-en-Mer, Marie-Galante | 1985
6449 | Charles Aznavour | La Mamma | 1963
6455 | Noir Désir | Tostaky (Le continent) | 1992
6469 | Kinky | Soun tha mi primer amor | 2002
6488 | Domenico Modugno | Piove (Ciao ciao bambina) | 1959
6493 | Element of Crime | Weißes Papier | 1993
6497 | Renaud | Mistral Gagnant | 1985
6503 | Camarón de la Isla | Soy gitano | 1989
6516 | Indochine | J'ai demandé à la lune | 2002
6537 | Christophe | Aline | 1965
6541 | Barbara | La Solitude | 1965
6557 | Laura Pausini | La solitudine | 1993
6578 | Charles Aznavour | Comme ils disent | 1972
6593 | Charly García | Nos siguen pegando abajo "pecado mortal" | 1983
6625 | Héroes del Silencio | La chispa adecuada | 1995
6635 | Rachid Taha | Rock El Casbah | 2004
6650 | La Femme | Où va le monde? | 2016
6681 | Francis Cabrel | La Corrida | 1994
6699 | Concha Piquer | Tatuaje | 1941
6708 | Element of Crime | Delmenhorst | 2005
6730 | Divididos | Qué ves? | 1993
6762 | Rino Gaetano | Ma il cielo è sempre più blu | 1975
6763 | Henri Salvador | Dans mon île | 1958
6772 | Ja, Panik | DMD KIU LIDT | 2011
6774 | Antônio Carlos Jobim | Insensatez | 1963
6778 | Control Machete | ¿Comprendes Mendes? | 1997
6779 | Berthe Sylva | Les Roses Blanches | 1926
6802 | Fehlfarben | Paul ist tot   | 1980
6813 | Rachid Taha | Ya Rayah | 1997
6828 | Die Sterne | Was hat dich bloß so ruiniert | 1996
6853 | Nacha Pop | La Chica de ayer | 1980
6863 | Renaud | Hexagone | 1975
6870 | Él Mató a Un Policía Motorizado | El tesoro | 2017
6891 | Patricio Rey y Sus Redonditos de Ricota | Jijiji | 1986
6904 | Herbert Grönemeyer | Mensch | 2002
6919 | Blumfeld | Wir sind frei | 2003
6930 | Botellita de Jerez | Alármala de tos | 1984
6931 | Jacques Brel | Jacky | 1965
6932 | Lucienne Delyle | Mon amant de Saint-Jean | 1942
6943 | Ray Barretto | El Watusi | 1962
6954 | Christine and the Queens | Doesn't Matter | 2018
6963 | Noir Désir | Un jour en France | 1996
6977 | Los Brincos | Flamenco | 1964
6986 | Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares | Kalimankou denkou | 1975
7014 | Claude Nougaro | Une Petite Fille | 1961
7036 | Tino Rossi | Petit papa Noël | 1946
7049 | Félix Leclerc | Le p'tit bonheur | 1951
7055 | Dënver | Los adolescentes | 2010
7060 | Les Rita Mitsouko | Le petit train | 1988
7067 | Charlélie Couture | Comme un avion sans ailes | 1981
7068 | Brigitte Fontaine & Art Ensemble of Chicago | Comme à La Radio | 1970
7080 | Serge Gainsbourg | Melody | 1971
7099 | Yves Montand | La Bicyclette | 1968
7131 | Anna Karina | Sous le soleil exactement | 1967
7139 | Los Tres | Déjate caer | 1995
7163 | Los Prisioneros | Tren al sur | 1990
7173 | Miguel Mateos | Cuando seas grande | 1986
7189 | Nino Ferrer | Mirza | 1965
7276 | Sigur Rós | Glósóli | 2005
7289 | Premiata Forneria Marconi | Impressioni di settembre | 1971
7303 | Alain Souchon | Allo Maman Bobo | 1977
7311 | Babasónicos | Irresponsables | 2003
7317 | Bilderbuch | Bungalow | 2017
7321 | Jacques Brel | Quand on n'a que l'amour | 1957
7327 | France Gall | Laisse tomber les filles | 1964
7353 | Christophe | Les paradis perdus | 1973
7356 | Tocotronic | Freiburg V3.0 | 2000
7360 | Mouloudji | Un jour tu verras | 1954
7363 | Youssou N'Dour | Li ma weese (As in a Mirror) | 2002
7410 | Chagrin d'amour | Chacun fait (c'qui lui plaît) | 1981
7437 | Catupecu Machu | Y lo que quiero es que pises sin el suelo | 2000
7455 | Édith Piaf | L'accordéoniste | 1940
7499 | Los Locos del Ritmo | Yo no soy un rebelde | 1960
7517 | Georges Brassens | Supplique Pour Etre Entérré A La Plage De Sète | 1966
7530 | Jacques Brel | La chanson des vieux amants | 1967
7535 | Serge Reggiani | Les loups sont entrés dans Paris | 1967
7540 | Dominique A. | Le courage des oiseaux | 1992
7570 | Astro | Ciervos | 2011
7586 | Patty Pravo | Pensiero stupendo | 1978
7601 | Stan Getz | Corcovado | 1964
7640 | Sidney Bechet & Claude Luter | Petite Fleur | 1952
7642 | Serge and Charlotte Gainsbourg | Lemon Incest | 1984
7687 | Claude Nougaro | O Toulouse | 1967
7709 | Bourvil | Ballade irlandaise (un oranger) | 1958
7716 | Diabologum | A découvrir absolument | 1996
7730 | Juan Son | Nada | 2008
7783 | Javiera Mena | Sol de Invierno | 2006
7807 | Sigur Rós | Brennistein | 2013
7843 | Léo Ferré | C'est extra | 1969
7845 | Joseito Fernandez | Guajira Guantanamera | 1973
7850 | Claude Nougaro | Cécile, ma fille | 1963
7857 | Triángulo de Amor Bizarro | El fantasma de la transición | 2007
7867 | Yves Duteil | Prendre un enfant | 1977
7871 | Amadou & Mariam | Senegal Fast Food | 2004
7880 | Franco Battiato | La cura | 1996
7958 | Taraf de Haidouks | Balada conducatorolui | 1991
7971 | Fabrizio De André | Verranno a chiederti del nostro amore | 1973
8006 | El Columpio Asesino | Toro | 2011
8013 | Pino Donaggio | Io che non vivo (Senza te) | 1965
8019 | Los Prisioneros | El baile de los que sobran | 1986
8022 | Mon Laferte | Tu falta de querer | 2015
8053 | José Alfredo Jiménez | Si nos dejan | 1970
8060 | Maurice Fanon | L'écharpe | 1963
8066 | Bembeya Jazz National | Armee Guineenne | 1968
8077 | Francis Cabrel | La Robe et l'echelle | 2008
8084 | Françoise Hardy | Le temps de l'amour | 1962
8095 | Pauline Croze | T'es Beau | 2005
8096 | Maxime Le Forestier | Né quelque part | 1987
8097 | Moris | El Oso | 1969
8102 | Édith Piaf | Padam Padam... | 1951
8116 | Nina Hagen Band | Unbeschreiblich weiblich | 1979
8145 | Caparezza | Fuori dal tunnel | 2003
8186 | Eddy Mitchell | La dernière séance | 1977
8212 | Das Bo | Türlich, türlich (Sicher, dicker) | 2000
8219 | Mia Martini | Almeno tu nell'universo | 1989
8220 | Jacques Dutronc | Les Cactus | 1966
8236 | Echt | Du Trägst Keine Liebe In Dir | 1999
8249 | Dominique A. | Pour la peau | 2001
8258 | Rina Ketty | J'attendrai | 1938
8265 | Los Twist | Pensé que se trataba de cieguitos | 1983
8267 | Jacques Higelin | Pars | 1978
8297 | Kettcar | Landungsbrücken raus | 2002
8304 | Claude Nougaro | Le Jazz et la java | 1961
8324 | Håkan Hellström | Känn ingen sorg för mig Göteborg | 2000
8326 | Juliette Gréco | Si tu t'imagines | 1950
8351 | Michel Delpech | Chez Laurette | 1965
8355 | El Gran Silencio | Dormir soñando | 1998
8389 | Boby Lapointe | Aragon et Castille | 1960
8399 | Triana | En el lago | 1975
8405 | Sigur Rós | Inní mér syngur vitleysingur | 2008
8411 | Carlos Gardel | Mi Buenos Aires Querido | 1934
8413 | Ivano Fossati | La costruzione di un amore | 1988
8430 | Jacques Brel | Mon enfance | 1967
8445 | Peter Fox | Alles neu | 2008
8458 | Amadou & Mariam | Le Réalité | 2004
8470 | Cesaria Evora | Petit Pays | 1995
8478 | Charly García | Cerca de la revolución | 1984
8503 | Franco Battiato | Prospettiva Nevski | 1980
8532 | Daniel Balavoine | Le Chanteur | 1978
8556 | Rammstein | Mein teil | 2004
8571 | Miguel Mateos / ZAS | Tirá para arriba | 1984
8578 | Elisa | Luce (Tramonti a nord est) | 2001
8592 | Sido | Mein Block | 2004
8608 | Fanfare Ciocarlia | lag bari | 2001
8611 | Devendra Banhart | Santa Maria da Feira | 2005
8618 | Michel Polnareff | Sous quelle étoile suis-je né | 1966
8639 | Los Fabulosos Cadillacs | Mal bicho | 1995
8643 | Claude Nougaro | Tu verras | 1978
8653 | Serge Gainsbourg | Variations sur Marilou | 1976
8666 | Pino Daniele | Napule è | 1977
8669 | Boris Vian | J'suis snob | 1955
8674 | Damia | Les Goélands | 1937
8682 | Léo Ferré | La Mémoire et la mer | 1970
8683 | Jarabe de Palo | La Flaca | 1996
8698 | Chabuca Granda | La flor de la canela | 1953
8709 | Marian Anderson | Ave Maria | 1936
8711 | Javiera Mena | Espada | 2013
8712 | Serge Lama | Je suis malade | 1973
8735 | Nacha Pop | Lucha de gigantes | 1987
8743 | MC Solaar | Nouveau Western | 1993
8750 | Boris Vian | Je bois | 1956
8753 | Léo Ferré | La Vie d'artiste | 1951
8754 | Indochine | L'aventurier | 1982
8758 | Virus | Una luna de miel en la mano | 1985
8766 | Jacques Brel | Mathilde | 1964
8771 | France Gall | Poupée de cire, poupée de son | 1965
8775 | Los Auténticos Decadentes | Loco (Tu forma de ser) | 1989
8782 | La Maldita Vecindad y Los Hijos del Quinto Patio | Kumbala | 1991
8810 | Beginner feat. Gzuz & Gentleman | Ahnma | 2016
8831 | J Balvin and Bad Bunny | La canción | 2019
8834 | Serge Reggiani | Il suffirait de presque rien | 1968
8845 | Les Chats Sauvages | Twist à St. Tropez | 1961
8851 | Germaine Sablon | Le Chant des partisans | 1943
8857 | Jacques Brel | Le Plat pays | 1962
8863 | Beau Dommage | La Complainte du Phoque En Alaska | 1974
8866 | Il était une fois | J'ai encore rêvé d'elle | 1975
8872 | Daddy Yankee | Gasolina | 2004
8875 | Charly García | No voy en tren | 1987
8876 | Tomte | Ich sang die ganze Zeit von dir | 2006
8893 | Café Tacvba | Puntos cardinales | 2003
8898 | Yaeji | Drink I’m Sippin On | 2017
8903 | Carlos Vives | La gota fría | 1993
8906 | Santa Sabina | Azul casi morado | 1992
8982 | Hervé Vilard | Capri c'est fini | 1965
8987 | Bourvil | C'était Bien (Le Petit Bal Perdu) | 1960
8995 | Radio Futura | Escuela de calor | 1984
9003 | Juan Luis Guerra y 4.40 | Burbujas de amor | 1990
9023 | Håkan Hellström | Kom igen, Lena! | 2002
9028 | Guy Béart | L'eau vive | 1958
9041 | Burning | Que hace una chica como tú en un sitio como este | 1978
9065 | Dominique A. | Le twenty-two bar | 1995
9081 | Jacques Brel | Ces Gens Là | 1965
9098 | Eugenio Finardi | Musica ribelle | 1976
9103 | Juan Carlos Baglietto | Mirta, de regreso | 1982
9105 | Bernd Begemann | Hitler - Menschlich gesehen | 1993
9112 | Jean Ferrat | Nuit et Brouillard | 1963
9156 | Lucio Battisti | Il mio canto libero | 1972
9166 | Los Violadores | Uno, dos, ultraviolento | 1985
9171 | Álex Anwandter | Siempre es viernes en mi corazón | 2016
9181 | Michel Delpech | Quand j'étais chanteur | 1975
9182 | Jacques Brel | Vesoul | 1968
9192 | Nino Ferrer | La Rua Madureira | 1969
9193 | Rita Montaner | El Manisero (The Peanut Vendor) | 1928
9206 | Magali Noël | Fais moi mal Johnny | 1956
9209 | Michel Sardou | La Maladie d'amour | 1973
9217 | Adriano Celentano | Azzurro | 1968
9222 | Serge Reggiani | Le Petit garçon | 1967
9226 | Paolo Conte | Max  | 1987
9227 | Fabrizio De André | Il pescatore | 1970
9228 | Los Teen Tops | La Plaga | 1960
9230 | Babasónicos | El Loco | 2001
9249 | Mina | Se telefonando | 1966
9262 | MC Solaar | Caroline | 1991
9268 | Renaud | Laisse Béton | 1977
9276 | Joan Manuel Serrat | Mediterráneo | 1971
9287 | Czerkinsky | Natacha | 1998
9288 | Roberto Vecchioni | Luci a San Siro | 1971
9289 | Barbara | Le Mal de vivre | 1965
9293 | Superpunk | Neue Zähne für meinen Bruder und mich | 2001
9312 | Jeanette | Porque te vas | 1974
9334 | Michel Jonasz | Les vacances au bord de la mer | 1975
9337 | Sigur Rós | Viðrar vel til loftárása | 1999
9377 | Emily Loizeau | L'autre bout du monde | 2006
9380 | Tito Puente | Oye Como Va | 1962
9403 | Daniel Darc | Je me souviens, je me rappelle | 2004
9409 | Lucio Dalla | Caruso | 1986
9413 | Tocotronic | Drüben Auf Dem Hügel | 1995
9428 | MC Solaar | Bouge de là | 1990
9450 | Luis Alberto Spinetta | Seguir viviendo sin tu amor | 1991
9452 | Jean Sablon | Vous qui passez sans me voir | 1936
9507 | Barón Rojo | Los rockeros van al infierno | 1982
9522 | Fettes Brot | Schwule Mädchen | 2001
9540 | Trio Matamoros | Son de la Loma | 1928
9541 | Claude Nougaro | Le Cinéma | 1962
9548 | Arno | Les yeux de ma mère | 1995
9554 | Charles Aznavour | Emmenez-moi | 1968
9566 | Pablo Milanés | Para Vivir | 1976
9567 | Eddy Mitchell | Couleur menthe à l'eau | 1980
9570 | Jean Ferrat | Aimer à perdre la raison | 1971
9587 | Suprême NTM | Qu'est-ce qu'on attend | 1995
9613 | Lio | Les Brunes comptent pas pour des prunes | 1986
9619 | Renato Zero | Il cielo | 1977
9626 | Michel Polnareff | Lettre à France | 1977
9653 | Alaska y Los Pegamoides | Bailando | 1982
9655 | Daniel Guichard | Mon vieux | 1974
9687 | Oumou Sangare | Moussolou | 1991
9696 | DJ Koze | Zuviel Zeit? | 2005
9702 | Molotov | Voto Latino | 1997
9726 | Georges Brassens | Il n'y a pas d'amour heureux | 1953
9728 | King Sunny Adé | Sunny ti de | 1972
9736 | Los Planetas | Reunión en la cumbre | 2007
9751 | Jeans Team | Keine Melodien | 2000
9780 | Téléphone | La Bombe humaine | 1979
9807 | Téléphone | Hygiaphone | 1977
9808 | Kraftwerk | Neonlicht/Neon Lights | 1978
9813 | Violeta Parra | Gracias a la vida | 1966
9822 | Javiera Mena | Luz de piedra de luna | 2010
9828 | Javiera Mena | Otra era | 2014
9830 | Leño | Maneras de vivir | 1981
9843 | Tino Rossi | Marinella | 1936
9845 | Radio Futura | Veneno en la piel | 1990
9854 | Jacques Dutronc | L'opportuniste | 1968
9856 | Daniel Lavoie | Ils s'aiment | 1983
9866 | Paraíso | Para ti | 1980
9897 | Café Tacvba | Mediodía | 2003
9904 | Veneno | Los Delincuentes | 1977
9908 | Andrés Calamaro | Estadio Azteca | 2004
9913 | Ronnie Bird | Fais attention | 1965
9915 | Kenny y Los Eléctricos | No huyas de mi | 1988
9943 | Francis Lemarque | À Paris | 1949
9959 | Stupeflip | Je fume pu d'shit | 2002
9966 | Zucchero Fornaciari | Dune mosse | 1987
9967 | Elli & Jacno | Main dans la main | 1980
9985 | Caifanes | No dejes que... | 1992
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Although I knew non-English songs were far from dominant in the list it is still a surprisingly low amount. And even there some languages are ridiculously dominant. How much is left if you leave out French, Portugese and Spanish?
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Very eager to participate in this survey. I really think that very little non-english music is heard in Anglo-Saxon countries and that should change. There are many things that you will be happy to hear, know and begin to value fairly.
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"Chan chan" is in Spanish. It's 3013
http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/song/S5670.htm
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panam wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:00 pm "Chan chan" is in Spanish. It's 3013
http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/song/S5670.htm
Thanks, added above. That was an odd one for me to miss as it's on my own all-time list!
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This is a wonderful project and I'm looking forward to participating. But it feels absurd to exclude the likes of Fela Kuti and Astor Piazzolla. Fela Kuti's (limited amount of) lyrics might be mostly in English, but he basically created the very African genre of Afrobeat. Similarly, Astor Piazzolla's nuevo tango can't be anything but Argentinian.

There are many additional artists where the lines are blurred. I think there needs to be some flexibility here, and it might be best to create a separate thread where these things could be discussed. Or maybe they should just be discussed here?

Whatever the outcome of the decision-making, thank you for doing this.
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Dan wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:42 pm This is a wonderful project and I'm looking forward to participating. But it feels absurd to exclude the likes of Fela Kuti and Astor Piazzolla. Fela Kuti's (limited amount of) lyrics might be mostly in English, but he basically created the very African genre of Afrobeat. Similarly, Astor Piazzolla's nuevo tango can't be anything but Argentinian.

There are many additional artists where the lines are blurred. I think there needs to be some flexibility here, and it might be best to create a separate thread where these things could be discussed. Or maybe they should just be discussed here?

Whatever the outcome of the decision-making, thank you for doing this.
Thanks for the feedback Dan, and let's discuss eligibility here and in the nomination thread that I just started!

As I compiled the lists shown above in this thread in preparation for the poll, I spent a lot of time thinking about eligibility, and you're right that it's a complicated question. The intent of this poll is to address something that has been said many times over the years on this forum: the vast majority of acclaimed music is in English, and there is a lot of great music to discover that isn't in English that doesn't get enough attention, in large part because of the language barrier. The goal of this poll is to bring attention to that type of music.

Many artists from countries that don't speak English record in English - I assume many of them do so in an effort to maximize their global popularity and to reach fans and critics that wouldn't listen to an album that was in, say, Norwegian. This includes many artists that receive attention on this forum and in the US/UK critical community like Bjork, ABBA, Robyn, Daft Punk, Phoenix, The Knife, Can, Mitski, etc. I made the decision to exclude these artists and tie the poll to language rather than country of origin - works by a Mexican-American singer based in the US or a French Canadian artist are more in line with the spirit of this project than English language tracks by these type of artists.

To address the two cases you brought up:

Fela Kuti: I am a big fan of him and glad to see his profile continues to rise on this forum and in the critical community, but he comes from a country where the national language is English and his song titles and lyrics are in English. If he's included, then Jamaican reggae would have to be included, and I don't think anyone wants a bunch of Bob Marley albums at the top of this poll.

Astor Piazzolla: I wrestled with the question of whether to include instrumentals, and decided it would be too difficult to decide what does and doesn't qualify. Ultimately there is no language barrier to listening to instrumental music regardless of the artist's country of origin. I like electronic music by the likes of Todd Terje, Lindstrom, and Royksopp; should they be eligible for this project because they are from Norway when similar electronic albums by US/UK artists are excluded? Should German or Swiss classical composers be eliglble? I'm open to ideas here about how to structure this, as I could see your reason for wanting to include Piazzolla specifically in this project.

Let me know your thoughts; I'd appreciate a dialogue on this topic!
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Jackson wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:42 pm This includes many artists that receive attention on this forum and in the US/UK critical community like Bjork, ABBA, Robyn, Daft Punk, Phoenix, The Knife, Can, Mitski, etc.
Perhaps I'm focusing on an unimportant detail here too much, but Mitski can't be compared to the rest as she is half-American (her dad is from the US), lived mostly in the USA and speaks the language without accent (I suspect it might have been her first language growing up, but can't confirm this). Something that can't exactly be said for Björk, whose heavy accent is almost her most defining feature.
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Added Manu Dibango's Soul Makossa (AM 1064) to the songs list; I was missing that one. It's one of the highest ranking songs so it'll be an auto-nominee for the poll.
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Jackson wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:42 pm Let me know your thoughts; I'd appreciate a dialogue on this topic!
My personal feeling is that the purpose of a poll like this should be twofold: 1) To increase awareness of music where the vocals are not in English, even if the music relates to genres that are usually associated with English-speaking countries; Pop and Rock being obvious examples. 2) To increase awareness of Regional Music – music that developed from regional cultural traditions and is predominantly played in these regions – even if the music is instrumental or the vocals are in English.

So my view is that the poll should be renamed ‘Non-English Language and Regional Music’.

Defining Regional Music is not without its problems, though. Some genres might have started off as ‘regional’ but then became ‘global’, e.g. Jazz, Blues or Soul. And it is debatable whether some genres that are considered to be regional are truly only regional.

Rate Your Music lists all the below genres on its webpage about regional music:

African Music
Ancient Music
Arabic Music
Balkan Music
Brazilian Music
Caribbean Music
Caucasian Music
Chanson
Christian Liturgical Music
Country
East Asian Music
Ghazal
Greek Music
Hispanic Music
Islamic Modal Music
Islamic Religious Music & Recitation
Jewish Music
Melanesian Music
Polynesian Music
Polyphonic Chant
Portuguese Music
Prehistoric Music
Romanian Music
Russian Music
Seychelles & Mascarene Islands Music
South Asian Music
Southeast Asian Music
Tibetan Traditional Music
Traditional Folk Music
Turkic-Mongolic Traditional Music
West Asian Music
Zohioliin duu

Most of these genres will have vocals that are not in English but there are some exceptions – Caribbean Music being an example of this. To me, Caribbean genres like Reggae and Calypso feel very non-English/American, even if the lyrics are in English, and I think they should be included in a poll like this. But of course, that opens up the potential for a lot of Bob Marley albums and songs that everyone knows to be nominated for the poll. If Caribbean Music does end up being included, people will hopefully remember that the point of the poll is to discover new music and therefore nominate lesser-known Caribbean albums and songs.

Two other ‘problematic’ genres are Traditional Folk Music and Country. Various parts of the world have Traditional Folk Music and it is sung in various languages, but if we include this genre then we can’t exclude British Folk Music or Appalachian Folk Music from the United States, for example. Not that I think many traditional British or Appalachian Folk albums and songs will end up being nominated. As for Country, I find it a bit surprising that it is on RYM’s list of regional genres as it is performed and recorded in quite a few countries outside of the United States too.
Jackson wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:42 pm Astor Piazzolla: I wrestled with the question of whether to include instrumentals, and decided it would be too difficult to decide what does and doesn't qualify. Ultimately there is no language barrier to listening to instrumental music regardless of the artist's country of origin. I like electronic music by the likes of Todd Terje, Lindstrom, and Royksopp; should they be eligible for this project because they are from Norway when similar electronic albums by US/UK artists are excluded? Should German or Swiss classical composers be eliglble? I'm open to ideas here about how to structure this, as I could see your reason for wanting to include Piazzolla specifically in this project.
Personally, I feel that Electronic Music should be excluded as it is 'global' rather than 'regional' (unless the Electronic song or album contains significant elements of Regional Music). An instrumental genre like Tango is very regional and should therefore be included, in my opinion.

I do realise that including Regional Music might overcomplicate things, but I think it’s better to be more inclusive rather than less so. Having said that, I would have no issue with Regional Music not being included – there will certainly be enough great music to nominate and discover with the existing rules for this poll.
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Dan wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:42 pm Similarly, Astor Piazzolla's nuevo tango can't be anything but Argentinian.
This argument could probably apply to Ravi Shankar's instrumental work (and that of other classical Indian musicians) as well. Though I can see that the lines get blurred pretty easily if this path is followed.
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Dan wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:38 pm
An instrumental genre like Tango is very regional and should therefore be included, in my opinion.
Sorry, but tango is not an instrumental genre even mostly. Piazzolla was an exception and that's why tango purists preferred to call it was tango nuevo but most of the tangos are sung. Gardel, Troilo, Sosa, etc.
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To me, Regional music and Non English music are two different things. If people want instrumentals we can make a poll for those songs, but songs with lyrics have a different challenge and feeling. All things haven't to be in the same bag.
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panam wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:48 am To me, Regional music and Non English music are two different things. If people want instrumentals we can make a poll for those songs, but songs with lyrics have a different challenge and feeling. All things haven't to be in the same bag.
It's more difficult for me to see non-English language music and regional music as separate things. I suppose this is because most of the non-English language music I like is regional. I care more about non-English language music with uniquely local/regional sounds and influences than I do about an American-sounding or British-sounding rock song sung in a non-English language.

But I understand that my perspective on this is subjective and that others have a different view. And the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to stick with Jackson's (well-reasoned) rules. The intention of this poll seems to be to overcome language barriers by showing that there is some great music out there where the vocals are not in English, and I'm sure the poll will achieve this.

A separate game at some point in the future that is more inclusive of regional music might be better. A few years ago, we had a 'world tour' game where we went from one continent to another and explored music from each region. In a game like that, it wouldn't matter if the music is instrumental or not, or if the songs are sung in English or in the local language. But that's something for another time. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to this poll.
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