Rating changes (Allmusic, Scaruffi, etc.)

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Running track of more recent AllMusic ratings for some albums now on the site after the recent update [and some that were already on the site]:
  • 5 stars: Taylor Swift, Fearless; Lady Gaga, The Fame; Eric Church, Chief; Liturgy, Aesthetica; Veronica Falls, Veronica Falls; Taylor Swift, Red; Torche, Harmonicraft; Fear of Men, Loom; Makaya McCraven, Universal Beings
  • 4.5 stars:
    • 2007: Rihanna, Good Girl Gone Bad
    • 2009: Major Lazer, Guns Don't Kill People... Lazers Do; Mono, Hymn to the Immortal Wind
    • 2012: Burial, Kindred EP
    • 2014: Joyce Manor, Never Hungover Again
    • 2018: Bad Bunny, X 100pre; Beach House, 7; Daughters, You Won't Get What You Want; Ariana Grande, Sweetener; Julia Holter, Aviary; Jon Hopkins, Singularity; Noname, Room 25; Travis Scott, Astroworld; Sleep, The Sciences; Sons of Kemet, Your Queen Is a Reptile; Kali Uchis, Isolation
    • 2019: Baroness, Gold & Grey; Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Ghosteen; The Comet Is Coming, Trust in the Lifeforce of the Deep Mystery; Helado Negro, This Is How You Smile; Julia Jacklin, Crushing; King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, Infest the Rats' Nest; Little Simz, Grey Area; Lizzo, Cuz I Love You; Purple Mountains, Purple Mountains
  • 4 stars: DJ Drama & Lil Wayne, Dedication 2: Gangsta Grillz; Cymbals Eat Guitars, Why There Are Mountains; jj, n°2; Silversun Pickups, Swoon; Foster the People, Torches; Jens Lekman, I Know What Love Isn't; Paul McCartney, New; Twenty One Pilots, Blurryface; Jenny Lewis, On the Line; Low, Double Negative; Skee Mask, Compro
  • 3.5 stars: The Go! Team, Proof of Youth; The Killers, Day & Age; Muse, The Resistance; The Prodigy, Invaders Must Die; The Pains of Being Pure at Heart, Belong; Alex G, DSU
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Guide du cd:

The Band The Last Waltz is Guide D'or on 1997 Film Version
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Missing/updated Scaruffi ratings:

Ty Segall - Manipulator: 6/10
Ty Segall - Melted: 6.5/10
Ty Segall - Goodbye Bread: 5.5/10
Ty Segall - Twins: 6.5/10
Ty Segall & White Fence - Hair: 5/10
Ty Segall - Sleeper: 4/10
Thee Oh Sees - Floating Coffin: 6/10
Thee Oh Sees - Mutilator Defeated at Last: 5/10
Thee Oh Sees - A Weird Exits: 4.5/10

https://www.scaruffi.com/vol7/segall.html
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol7/coachwhi.html
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If anyone is interested, I started, 6 months ago, to report the ratings of guide of the cd.
All are checked against their catalog number.
I'm on letter L...
This could be found on this link:
https://fr.rateyourmusic.com/collection ... D/r0.5-5.0
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Guide du cd:
Los Lobos How Will the Wolf Survive? > 3
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Guide du cd:

Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares > 4
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All Music:
downgraded Paul McCartney Memory Almost Full
https://www.allmusic.com/album/memory-a ... 0000579143

Scaruffi:
All Taylor Swift Ratings
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol7/swift.html
Ariana Grande
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol8/grande.html
Travis Scott Birds in the Trap Sing McKnight
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol8/scott.html
Baroness Purple
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol7/baroness.html
Little Simz ratings
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol8/littlesi.html
Lizzo ratings
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol8/lizzo.html
DJ Drama & Lil Wayne Dedication 2: Gangsta Grillz
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol7/lilwayne.html
Jenny Lewis ratings
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol7/rilokile.html
Low The Invisible Way
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol5/low.html
The Pains of Being Pure at Heart Belong
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol7/painsofb.html

Christgau:
Beach House Depression Cherry
Beach House Thank Your Lucky Stars
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=5703
Ariana Grande
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=7567
Jon Hopkins
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=7215
Noname
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=7379
Sons of Kemet Your Queen is a Reptile
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=7539
Kali Uchis, Isolation
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=7517
Billie Eilish When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=7580
Little Simz ratings
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=7581
Lizzo ratings
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=7586
Jenny Lewis ratings
https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist2.php?id=6027
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Good news, scaruffi's ratings are more and more jazz, thanks to the help of Austin Krentz, who was volunteered to rate the jazz albums for scaruffi site.
https://www.scaruffi.com/service/krentz.html

The link to the page above, i think it's not complete, cos on the Abbey Lincoln page, for example, albums are rated while this artist doesn't appears on the page.
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Music Story:
Dominique A. La Musique/La Matière > 3.5
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Scaruffi:

Actress R.I.P. > 6.5
Adem Homesongs > 6
The Afghan Whigs Do to the Beast > 5
Alabama Shakes: Boys & Girls > 6
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Scaruffi:

AlunaGeorge Body Music > 5
Amen Dunes Freedom > 5
Arctic Monkeys AM > 4
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Guide du cd:

Thelonious Monk Thelonious Monk Trio > 3
Pat Metheny Pat Metheny Group > 2
Herbie Mann Memphis Underground > 3
Charles Mingus Town Hall Concert > 3, not 4 it's 1962 concert which is 4
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... l_concert/
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lagire wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:24 am Good news, scaruffi's ratings are more and more jazz, thanks to the help of Austin Krentz, who was volunteered to rate the jazz albums for scaruffi site.
https://www.scaruffi.com/service/krentz.html

The link to the page above, i think it's not complete, cos on the Abbey Lincoln page, for example, albums are rated while this artist doesn't appears on the page.
”He is checking piero's lists and piero's reviews and basically guessing what rating piero would give to each album.”

That’s a new one... Who is for and who is against the use of these ratings?
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"Tutu (february 1986), a collection of short pieces, was a collaboration with producer Marcus Miller (who played and overdubbed several instruments himself)"

This is all Scaruffi says about the album, and this is the kind of blip that Krentz often is basing his rating on (in this case 5/10). For me this seems very arbitrary, so I am arguing against an inclusion.
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Krurze wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:59 pm "Tutu (february 1986), a collection of short pieces, was a collaboration with producer Marcus Miller (who played and overdubbed several instruments himself)"

This is all Scaruffi says about the album, and this is the kind of blip that Krentz often is basing his rating on (in this case 5/10). For me this seems very arbitrary, so I am arguing against an inclusion.
Too bad, as if there were no arbitrary lists on AM!
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Guide du cd:

John Martyn Bless the Weather > 3
Malcolm McLaren Duck Rock > 3
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Missing ratings for Amadou & Mariams Welcome to Mali:

Allmusic: 4 stars (https://www.allmusic.com/album/welcome- ... 0000812991)
Robert Christgau: A (https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_art ... %26+Mariam)
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Surprised this one escaped being noticed for so long. According to Wiki, AllMusic changed it last summer:

Blondie - Eat to the Beat has been downgraded to 3.5 stars.
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Babatunde Olatunji Drums of Passion > no rate, it was his 1993 album "Drums of Passion: Celebrate Freedom, Justice & Peace
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https://www.discogs.com/fr/Babatunde-Ol ... se/9479539
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Upgraded to 4 stars on AllMusic:
The Postal Service - Give Up

Upgraded to 3 stars on AllMusic:
The Ting Tings - We Started Nothing
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The Hold Steady - Boys and Girls in America has been upgraded to 4.5 stars on AllMusic.
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Ry Cooder Paris, Texas is Guide D'or on Guide du cd 1997 film section
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Oscar Peterson Trio + One: Clark Terry is 3 not 4 on guide du cd
Pärt, Arvo Tabula Rasa is 1 on guide du cd
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Charli XCX Charli Is 6 on Scaruffi
Clams Casino Instrumentals Is 7 on Scaruffi
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol8/clamscas.html
Czukay, Holger Movies Is 6.5 on Scaruffi
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol3/czukay.html
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All Music

Yelle Safari Disco Club > 4
Yelle Complètement fou > 3.5
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/yelle-m ... iscography
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Scaruffi:
Waka Flocka Flame Flockaveli > 6.5
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol8/flame.html
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Beachwood Sparks - The Tarnished Gold has been upgraded to 4.5 stars, on AllMusic.
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Miles Davis Miles Davis at Plugged Nickel, Chicago > no rate on Guide du cd, confusion with Cookin' at the Plugged Nickel
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In my opinion, Duran Duran Duran Duran 1981 have no rate for Scaruffi.
The rate 4 is for the 1993 album.
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol4/duran.html
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A few updates from AllMusic this week:
  • The Coral - Roots & Echoes has a 4.0 star rating.
  • The Coral - Butterfly House now has a 3.5 star rating.
  • Teenage Fanclub - Here has been downgraded to a 4.0 star rating.
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Guide du cd:
Strange that i miss this one.
The Supremes Where Did Our Love Go > 3
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Guide du cd:

Smokey Robinson and The Miracles Going to a Go-Go > 4
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Guide du cd:

Nina Simone Little Girl Blue is 2 with the 1986 french reissue version "My Baby Just Cares For Me"
https://www.discogs.com/fr/Nina-Simone- ... se/3890644
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Guide du cd:

Frank Sinatra Sings for Only the Lonely > 3
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Tracey Thorn Record is A- on Christgau and 4 on Scaruffi
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Some AllMusic changes...

5 stars:
Ella Fitzgerald - Ella in Berlin: Mack the Knife

4.5 stars:
Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong - Porgy & Bess

3 stars:
Dizzy Gillespie - Groovin' High

Also...
Dizzy Gillespie with Roy Eldridge - Roy and Diz (note: AllMusic rates the release combining both Roy and Diz volumes 3 stars; Acclaimed Music has a listing for the second volume alone, in which the AllMusic rating is shown as 5 stars - this release has an AllMusic rating of 3 stars, but no review)
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Guide du cd:

Woodstock is Guide d'or on 1997 Film Version
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Upgraded to 4.5 stars on AllMusic:

Oscar Peterson - Night Train
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Guide du cd:

No rate for EPMD "Strictly Business", it was "Business as Usual" 1990 Album > 2
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Downgraded to 4 stars on AllMusic:

Jackie McLean - New and Old Gospel
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The Stooges Fun House Upgraded to 7.5 on scaruffi
https://www.scaruffi.com/vol2/stooges.html
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Depeche Mode - Ultra has been upgraded to 3.5 stars on AllMusic.
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Sarah Vaughan/Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown is 3 on Guide du cd
No Count Sarah is 4
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A group of Mariah Carey fans recently showed up on AllMusic's forum, demanding an upgrade to the ratings in her discography. Surprisingly, it worked though they didn't quite get all those 5-star ratings they were expecting.

For us, the only change worth mentioning is that The Emancipation of Mimi was upgraded to a 4.0 star rating.
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AllMusic have also made a couple of changes to Lady Gaga's discography:
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TLC CrazySexyCool is 2 on Guide du Cd
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Ultravox Vienna is 3 on Guide du cd
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Gilberto Gil 1968 Album have no rate on guide du cd
idem for Lyle Lovett 1986 Album
idem for Hampton Hawes This Is Hampton Hawes: Vol. 2, The Trio
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Guide du cd:

Some classical rates:

Steve Reich/Kronos Quartet/Pat Metheny Different Trains/Electric Counterpoint > 4
Steve Reich Drumming / Music for Mallet Instruments, Voices and Organ / Six Pianos > 2
Philip Glass Einstein on the Beach > 4
Philip Glass Glassworks > 3
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It took me about a year and a half, but here is the complete rates of the Guide du cd Book, Active from 1986 to 1997.

An excel file in attachement, with i think the principal artists, and links to RYM and Discogs (when Album not found on RYM).
https://rateyourmusic.com/~GUIDEDUCD
https://www.discogs.com/fr/users/ratings/lagire
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