Le Mot et le Reste

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Le Mot et le Reste

Postby lagire » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:39 pm

Books from "Le Mot et le Reste" Editor.
End 2016, 32 lists + 2 Single Lists enumerated from this collection > See Excel File

Miss 2 books:
- Jean-Charles Desgroux - Hair metal (2016)
- Pierre Castel & Paul Laborde - Post Rock (2015)

and 1 new version to checked:
Philippe Robert - Experimental Music: A cross-sectional anthology of emblematic and non-exhaustive recordings (2007) > new version from 2014

Olivier Pernot - The essential albums of electronic music (2014) > new version from 2016 Doesn't contains any other additions.
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:35 pm

I don't remember if I mentioned it already, but when I worked on the spreadsheet in the HELP WANTED thread, I added the Julian Cope lists, as I was unaware lagire added them to this spreadsheet as well.

So here, I give this precision again just in case.

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby lagire » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:35 pm

Added Jean-Charles Desgroux - Hair metal (2016), thanks to Pierre which bought it by E-Books and send me the list by PM.

I think you can say the collection is up to date. Just miss Post-Rock book where i can find anywhere.
I'll try to ask to Editor if the book has already exists, or always exist.
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:25 pm

lagire wrote:Added Jean-Charles Desgroux - Hair metal (2016), thanks to Pierre which bought it by E-Books and send me the list by PM.

I think you can say the collection is up to date. Just miss Post-Rock book where i can find anywhere.
I'll try to ask to Editor if the book has already exists, or always exist.


Fantastic work, lagire, although I think there are errors in the hair metal list: for some reason almost all the entries are weighted as "2"? :?

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby lagire » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:08 am

It's corrected.
It was because of my formulas.
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:12 am

lagire wrote:It's corrected.
It was because of my formulas.


Indeed. Good job! :)

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Postby Henrik » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:40 pm

This is fantastic, lagire! Thanks! There's so much work you have put into this...!!!

Now these lists just need to be merged into the spreadsheet in the help wanted thread. It's a massive task... Is someone willing? Of course, the work (or lists) could be split by many people.
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby lagire » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:21 pm

The Third tome of Art Music by Guillaume Kosmicki is now on sale.
It covers 1990-2015 years...
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/mus ... estomeiii/

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Postby Pierre » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:16 pm

lagire wrote:The Third tome of Art Music by Guillaume Kosmicki is now on sale.
It covers 1990-2015 years...
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/mus ... estomeiii/


13.99€ on Google Books... I'll think about it. But at this point in time I'm really not sure I'll buy it. Perhaps I will.

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:23 pm

Before starting to add the lists from this publisher to the general spreadsheet from the Help Wanted! thread, here's the updated Le Mot et le Reste spreadsheet with the entries from the third Art Music book. This should be the last update to this one, unless someone finds the elusive post-rock book.
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby lagire » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:39 pm

Pierre, here is the spreadsheet corrected for the indie pop entry.

Henrik, there's a new book "Mixtapes", don't know if it's eligible
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/mixtapes/
and this one which is coming soon "FRENCH TOUCH 100"
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/frenchtouch100/

About Post-rock book, i've got an answer from the editor.
They start doing the book but finally stop it, don't know the reason.
In the future, they could re-start it.
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby StevieFan13 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:35 pm

lagire wrote:Pierre, here is the spreadsheet corrected for the indie pop entry.

Henrik, there's a new book "Mixtapes", don't know if it's eligible
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/mixtapes/
and this one which is coming soon "FRENCH TOUCH 100"
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/frenchtouch100/

About Post-rock book, i've got an answer from the editor.
They start doing the book but finally stop it, don't know the reason.
In the future, they could re-start it.

Oooh, that's some neat stuff. I love the idea of a whole book about rap mixtapes.
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:35 pm

StevieFan13 wrote:
lagire wrote:Pierre, here is the spreadsheet corrected for the indie pop entry.

Henrik, there's a new book "Mixtapes", don't know if it's eligible
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/mixtapes/
and this one which is coming soon "FRENCH TOUCH 100"
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/frenchtouch100/

About Post-rock book, i've got an answer from the editor.
They start doing the book but finally stop it, don't know the reason.
In the future, they could re-start it.

Oooh, that's some neat stuff. I love the idea of a whole book about rap mixtapes.


Thanks a lot lagire!

And yes, and it would be eligible. There are already mixtapes featured on AM, although they're few.

EDIT: here's a final version with a couple changes I made in the Art Music list while working on it.
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby lagire » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:50 pm

Pierre wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:
lagire wrote:Pierre, here is the spreadsheet corrected for the indie pop entry.

Henrik, there's a new book "Mixtapes", don't know if it's eligible
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/mixtapes/
and this one which is coming soon "FRENCH TOUCH 100"
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/frenchtouch100/

About Post-rock book, i've got an answer from the editor.
They start doing the book but finally stop it, don't know the reason.
In the future, they could re-start it.

Oooh, that's some neat stuff. I love the idea of a whole book about rap mixtapes.


Thanks a lot lagire!

And yes, and it would be eligible. There are already mixtapes featured on AM, although they're few.


And for the french touch one eligible?

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:52 pm

lagire wrote:
Pierre wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:Oooh, that's some neat stuff. I love the idea of a whole book about rap mixtapes.


Thanks a lot lagire!

And yes, and it would be eligible. There are already mixtapes featured on AM, although they're few.


And for the french touch one eligible?


Of course. Why not?

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Postby lagire » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:10 pm

Pierre wrote:
Of course. Why not?


Cos it's a sub-genre, same thing for the mixtapes

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:22 pm

lagire wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Of course. Why not?


Cos it's a sub-genre, same thing for the mixtapes


La règle des sous-genres ne s'applique qu'aux magazines (par ex. si Rock&Folk fait une liste de disques de rock progressif, elle ne sera pas valable), pas aux livres. En livres, les auteurs peuvent faire des listes se consacrant à des sous-sous-genres, les listes seront toujours éligibles ;)

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:54 am

I just discovered something weird. Le Mot et le Reste released a new 100 jazz albums book on the 5th (not available on Google Books yet) by Franck Médioni. Meanwhile, the Guillaume Belhomme book included in the spreadsheet (which definitely exists) isn't listed anymore on the Le Mot et le Reste website. An internal conflict with their authors, I guess?

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:49 pm

lagire, that's absolutely hilarious :D I started working on the list from the LP collection by Laurent Schlitter & Patrick Claudet, and I found it very weird to find a whopping zero of the entries on the Web, and now I have the explanation:

https://www.lematin.ch/festivals/montre ... y/24992558

For people who don't speak French, this explains that the list is totally fake. All the entries, albums and acts, were completely created from scratch by the authors. In fact, the "LP" in the title stands for "Laurent & Patrick", the first names of the authors, and since they are passionate about music in general, they built up completely the biographies of the bands and the contents of the albums out of their imagination. The funniest part is that some real artists are now "covering" the tracks from the albums!

In fact, the page of the editor has one quote from the magazine Magic to describe the book "More than a huge hoax, this endeavour asks good questions about our connection to music, memory and transmission".

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:25 pm

StevieFan13 wrote:
lagire wrote:Pierre, here is the spreadsheet corrected for the indie pop entry.

Henrik, there's a new book "Mixtapes", don't know if it's eligible
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/mixtapes/
and this one which is coming soon "FRENCH TOUCH 100"
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/frenchtouch100/

About Post-rock book, i've got an answer from the editor.
They start doing the book but finally stop it, don't know the reason.
In the future, they could re-start it.

Oooh, that's some neat stuff. I love the idea of a whole book about rap mixtapes.


Pierre wrote:I just discovered something weird. Le Mot et le Reste released a new 100 jazz albums book on the 5th (not available on Google Books yet) by Franck Médioni. Meanwhile, the Guillaume Belhomme book included in the spreadsheet (which definitely exists) isn't listed anymore on the Le Mot et le Reste website. An internal conflict with their authors, I guess?


Remember that I owed you this one? :P Well, it all got delayed because 1. Professional life got in the way and 2. Le Mot et le Reste took their sweet time to add the French Touch book and the new jazz book to Google Books. Thankfully, these two setbacks are out of the way now and I managed to complete the Le Mot et le Reste spreadsheet, so you have it. StevieFan13, you can finally delve into this mixtapes list ;) The Le Mot et le Reste spreadsheet is therefore complete again, minus this elusive post-rock list.

This time I didn't repeat my laziness fit of when I added the mixtapes list, and I completed both this spreadsheet and the big one from the "Help Wanted!" thread simultaneously. Regarding the latter, I'm not quite done yet, but I've done some major breakthroughs in my adding the Le Mot et le Reste lists, as I've stopped following the tabs for adding the lists, instead going through what I perceive as a decreasing order of difficulty. At this moment, the following tabs are the eleven remaining lists I have to add: Hair Metal, Hard'n'Heavy, Indie Pop, Jazz, Free Jazz, Live, Prog, Psy Rock, Revolution, Rock-Pop, Women. Among these, three lists go beyond the 1000 albums mark and a few more are around the 400-600 albums range, so I'm still stuck with this for some time, but now that I've put the experimental/art music, post-punk and hip-hop blocks out of the way, I have great momentum :)
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby StevieFan13 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:34 pm

You the man, Pierre! Thank you for all your hard work!
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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:43 am

lagire wrote:Pierre, here is the spreadsheet corrected for the indie pop entry.

Henrik, there's a new book "Mixtapes", don't know if it's eligible
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/mixtapes/
and this one which is coming soon "FRENCH TOUCH 100"
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/frenchtouch100/

About Post-rock book, i've got an answer from the editor.
They start doing the book but finally stop it, don't know the reason.
In the future, they could re-start it.


Salut lagire :greetings-waveyellow:

J'ai besoin d'une confirmation ici : les "1,5" et "2,5" dans la liste de Guillaume Belhomme Jazz en 100 figures + 100 autres figures, ce sont les albums qui sont dans le deuxième bouquin, c'est ça ? Celui sur les 100 autres figures ?

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:22 am

Pierre wrote:
lagire wrote:Pierre, here is the spreadsheet corrected for the indie pop entry.

Henrik, there's a new book "Mixtapes", don't know if it's eligible
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/mixtapes/
and this one which is coming soon "FRENCH TOUCH 100"
https://lemotetlereste.com/musiques/frenchtouch100/

About Post-rock book, i've got an answer from the editor.
They start doing the book but finally stop it, don't know the reason.
In the future, they could re-start it.


Salut lagire :greetings-waveyellow:

J'ai besoin d'une confirmation ici : les "1,5" et "2,5" dans la liste de Guillaume Belhomme Jazz en 100 figures + 100 autres figures, ce sont les albums qui sont dans le deuxième bouquin, c'est ça ? Celui sur les 100 autres figures ?


Never mind that, I dug up the old Le Mot et le Reste thread, which confirmed my theory. I'm not sure I'll keep the distinction though.

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby lagire » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:32 am

Yep Pierre, les 1 et 1.5 sont les albums du 1er bouquin (1 & 2nd order)
et 2 et 2.5 pour le 2eme.
En effet, je ne suis pas sûr que la distinction vaille la peine entre les 1.5 et 2.5

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby Pierre » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:54 am

lagire wrote:Yep Pierre, les 1 et 1.5 sont les albums du 1er bouquin (1 & 2nd order)
et 2 et 2.5 pour le 2eme.
En effet, je ne suis pas sûr que la distinction vaille la peine entre les 1.5 et 2.5


Merci ! Tu t'es emmêlé les pinceaux par contre, c'est 1 et 2 le premier et 1,5 et 2,5 le second... ;)

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Re: Le Mot et le Reste

Postby lagire » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:23 am

Pierre wrote:
Merci ! Tu t'es emmêlé les pinceaux par contre, c'est 1 et 2 le premier et 1,5 et 2,5 le second... ;)


Oui désolé :whistle:


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