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Bruce

Go listen to Al Jolson and Rudy Vallee. Then re-listen to Crosby's White Christmas. The difference is astounding. I am happy to see that my favorite Rudy Vallee song is now listed on the site: Stein Song (University of Maine Fighting Song) 1930 And I do like several Jolson things. Jolson actually b...

Bruce

Live in Phoenix wrote:Der Bingle is a giant, with like forty #1s, but he doesn't seem to show up on critics' lists, which poses quite a problem for a site like this that tallies them up.

Bing was at his peak between 65 and 85 years ago. That's just too long ago for critics, most of whom only really care about rock.

Bruce

The Sex Pistols had two big years. Crosby had - conservatively - ten years at least as big. Bing had more like 25 years where he was bigger than the Sex Pistols were in their biggest year. Frankly, I'm surprised that, on this of all sites, so many (wrongly) believe that the match-up tilts the other...

Bruce

Thanks again for all extra the work, Henrik. You didn't have to take my/the naysayer's complaints so seriously, but you did anyway, and I really appreciate that. Henrik is a wise man and he looked at the discussions, ignored the emotions and made some good decisions based on the logic presented. Th...

Bruce

Would you ever consider counting a compilation like Robert Johnson's Complete Recordings as an album? It's basically the only Robert Johnson album, Robert Johnson first became prominent with rock acts in the 1960s when these 2 famous albums were released in 1961 and 1970 respectively: https://rymim...

Bruce

Here are my 5 favorite acts who are not mentioned at all on AM. I also list the song by each act that I think would be their best chance to get on to the site, maybe with the expansion to 10,000 songs. 1 - The Spiders - Witchcraft 2 - Buddy & Ella Johnson - Since I Fell For You 3 - The Swallows ...

Bruce

Why not just add the complete totals for each year?

Bruce

The only list I can recall with him in a high spot is Entertainment Weekly's top 100 cds list from about 1993 (for the Hot Five/Hot Seven recordings). How about this one: http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistspop.html 6. Louis Armstrong and this one: http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_s...

Bruce

Most sales estimates I've seen for Radiohead put them at 25-30 Million records sold worldwide. Bing Crosby is at half a billion. And that's mostly from when the USA had about half the poulation that it does now. Katy Perry is at 92 million, at least THREE TIMES as many as Radiohead. I had no idea 3...

Bruce

Jonathon wrote:Most sales estimates I've seen for Radiohead put them at 25-30 Million records sold worldwide.

Bing Crosby is at half a billion. And that's mostly from when the USA had about half the poulation that it does now.

Katy Perry is at 92 million, at least THREE TIMES as many as Radiohead.

Bruce

Henrik wrote:
Henrik wrote:I will rerun the artist pages and upload them during the day.
I've decided to wait another week or so to for more error findings. When I update the artist pages I will probably also use the new ranking system, which is discussed here.

Good job. I'm glad you saw the logic in this.

Bruce

This weekend, Rhythm Radio counts down the Top 100 R&B Singles of 1954 (including many double-sided hits)! Join us for vintage classics by Guitar Slim, Hank Ballard & The Midnighters, Ruth Brown, The Chords, Roy Hamilton, The Clovers, Big Joe Turner, Otis Williams & The Charms, B.B. King...

Bruce

Bing Crosby had OVER 350 hit singles. And in those days the chart was only a top 20 or top 30 in his later years. The world's music charts rank him as the #3 songs act of all time after the Beatles and Elvis: http://tsort.info/music/artist.htm Here's some examples of Bing's immense cultural impact: ...

Bruce

BTW, any of you who wants to stop by the 1950s Music Newsgroup and tell us much better modern music is than 50s music, please stop by.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en# ... -r+b.1950s

Bruce

Don't know how to do the quote thing... Bruce: "The Beatles are the greatest act ever, but many more people nowadays listen to Chuck berry, Elvis, Little Richard Buddy Holly and other great 50s acts than listen to most other 60s acts aside from the Beatles." This is just absolutely false....

Bruce

BTW, when I officiate baseball and basketball games at high schools, if there is music playing before the game and during breaks it's either current stuff or 1970s rock.

Bruce

The Beatles are the greatest act ever, but many more people nowadays listen to Chuck berry, Elvis, Little Richard Buddy Holly and other great 50s acts than listen to most other 60s acts aside from the Beatles. I'm not really sure how you can claim to know what the general population is listening to...

Bruce

The Gene Vincent argument seems kind of silly. Is PSY the greatest musician of the last ten years? If we look at how he has over a billion views on youtube, how he inspired so many parodies, Halloween costumes, bobble heads, a dance craze, etc, we could argue that he is, because he has had a huge c...

Bruce

But any all time list that ranks Radiohead higher than Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong and James Brown is useless. That is gross overstatement of the comparative importance of the performers. To be useless, the list would have "no use" because of this compari...

Bruce

Has any song that he has written ever been a top 10 hit single by any act? Why, yes, yes it has. But since you know more about music than any critic alive, you already know that don't you, Bruce? As far as I know he's only had one top 10 hit, Rod Stewart's version of "Downtown Train."

Bruce

One thing that I notice no matter how you arrange the formula is that Bowie must be much more highly regarded in the rest of the world than he is here in America. On the DDD greatest rock artists list he is #18 which I still think is a bit high. On the Rolling Stone list he is #39.

Bruce

Waits is #86 on the DDD list of greatest rock songwriters.

http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_songwriters.html

Bruce

While I'm on the subject of musical influence, let's consider Tom Waits, both beloved and oft maligned around here. By my count Tom has produced 20 studio albums in 40 years, 4 additional "official" live albums and there are, by RYM accounts, seven tribute albums to him (I know of two oth...

Bruce

Radiohead is #14 on the DDD list of greatest artists of the 1990s and #4 on their list of greatest artists of the 2000s. http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artists00s.html They are #93 on the site's list of the Greatest Rock Artists of all time: http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artistsddd....

Bruce

Let me get this straight, hair-cuts and way people dress is a more legitimate and objective way to rank an artist's greatness over their acclaim? If that's your logic their is a whole plethora of hipster artists and rappers that must be considered the greatest artists of all time. Acclaim is just t...

Bruce

but artists like Radiohead, Kanye have had more of a "influence" and "cultural" impact on me and others around my age bracket than most artists from the 50s. But have they had as much impact on this generation as the stars of the 50s had on that generation? Keep in mind that in ...

Bruce

Impact on who? Impact on the world of music. For instance someone like Gene Vincent had more impact than his popularity would suggest. There were Gene Vincent fan clubs all over Europe. He also had cultural impact as a generation of teenagers and young adults in Europe started to dress like Gene Vi...

Bruce

I research each item's popularity and also each item's acclaim. This site was very instrumental in my rankings for these later years. The top 20 or so was already determined by going through the decade lists that were already done on DDD. You can check the lists and tell me if you think I did a good...

Bruce

Yes, lots of great new stuff in the song list.

Bruce

Hmm, even if the methodology was right (meaning it is Rick Varner's own favorite jazz albums), would it not be a genre list from a non-genrespecific site? Yes, but this is why the jazz stuff is not doing so well here. There are very few places where people rank jazz on the same list as rock. You us...

Bruce

Everyone else at DDD think that there are objective criteria for music? Here's the criteria of a typical DDD list: Rock 'n' Roll Artists of the 50's are based equally on Commercial Impact, Influence, Musical Impact and Cultural Impact. The editor is not supposed to consider his own taste at all. In...

Bruce

Yes you do. If you didn't, Radiohead would be in the top 10 of your list. Not to mention he has expressed his hatred for Velvet Underground, who just happens to be ranked 279 on this list. Probably the most ridiculous ranking for them I've ever seen. Based on this criteria: These 300 Greatest Popul...

Bruce

Yes you do. If you didn't, Radiohead would be in the top 10 of your list. The criteria of the list is: These 300 Greatest Popular Music Artists were ranked for their Popularity, Influence, and Impact in Popular Music. Acclaim is not even part of the criteria so how could they possibly be top 10?

Bruce

I like that this site includes genre-specific lists by publications/sites that specialize in that genre. So, for example, AM has metal lists by Decibel and Terrorizer, and several jazz lists from jazz-based magazines. It's great because I believe those albums would be so much lower, if not totally ...

Bruce

Thanks a lot Henrik! Lots of good changes, lot of disappointing changes, as usual. The one thing that striked me most though, was the general poorer acclaim of all jazz music. Really not happy with that, and I was surprised almost all jazz albums got a beating, top to bottom. A shame really. Well, ...

Bruce

I have a question for Bruce: I haven't really been around this forum all that long, but it seems to me that you have little interest in or are at least displeased with the opinions of most critics, the very thing this site is based on. I'm just curious why you stick around site. Please don't take t...

Bruce

we listeners and critics have come to venerate artists who create albums. Not me. And not most listeners either. Especially nowadays in the digital age. The vast majority of people do not listen to full albums. They listen to a mix of songs on their IPods and computers. and on the radio where nobod...

Bruce

Nassim wrote: UK and USSR support would have been enough on the long term.

That's not the opinion of most WW2 historians.

Bruce

Nassim wrote:
I'm French you dimwit,

Why must you resort to name calling?

Bruce

Nassim wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Romain wrote:
Hmmm, I touch something here. Victory for the fucking microscopic communist country
If it wasn't for us you'd be part of Germany.
If it wasn't for us you'd be part of the British Kingdom.

What did you do, make hot chocolate for General Washington's troops?

Bruce

Romain wrote:
Hmmm, I touch something here. Victory for the fucking microscopic communist country

If it wasn't for us you'd be part of Germany.

Bruce

your miniscule country ROFL....this is coming from someone who lives in a country that is less than half the size of one of our 50 states (Alaska). Less than 5% of the world population, is... really... miniscule. What percentage of the songs, albums and artists on this site's lists are from my coun...

Bruce

Romain wrote:
Bruce wrote:
Romain wrote:your miniscule country
ROFL....this is coming from someone who lives in a country that is less than half the size of one of our 50 states (Alaska).
Less than 5% of the world population, is... really... miniscule.

If the USA is miniscule then would would you term your country.....microscopic?

Bruce

ROFL....this is coming from someone who lives in a country that is less than half the size of one of our 50 states (Alaska). Not all Americans are like Bruce. I would like to apologize on behalf of the United States for his attitudes. We are not all assholes. Why am I an asshole, but Romain not an ...

Bruce

Romain wrote:
It's a joke isnt'it? You make fun of us? Good job! What is your stage name? I can pay a lot for a one man snob show by you.

Name one critic who knows as much as me about pre-1960s music, which covers about 70 years of recorded music.

Bruce

Romain wrote:your miniscule country

ROFL....this is coming from someone who lives in a country that is less than half the size of one of our 50 states (Alaska).

Bruce

What I have done is that I have taken a copy of the top 3000 albums and used it for the 3100-6000 positions as well. Cool except for this part. The albums should not be double counted like this. There are a lot more acclaimed songs than acclaimed albums and this should be reflected in the artist ra...

Bruce

Listyguy wrote:The argument about whether the artists list should count more than 15 albums is rather superfluous, considering only 4 artists have more than 15 albums listed.

A - I'm more concerned with the weighting.
B - I'm more interested with songs than albums.

Bruce

That being said, 15 is a pretty large number and rarely any artists even have that many albums and/or songs on AM. So it isn't a big deal (back when it was 6 and then 9, it was a large deal). Still, the existence of a limit, even if it is a large limit, rubs me the wrong way, and there are still th...

Bruce

You won't find any critic, music magazine person or music industry person who knows more about the entire history of recorded music than I do. Except you have never heard of "Get Lucky", never listened to Radiohead, pretty much don't know anything about music after 1987.... :D :D :D :D :D...

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