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Harold

I saw that people have been including their ages at the top of their submission posts - I'm 51. Here's my top 500, the first time I've ever compiled a personal list of this size. Most of the albums near the top (except for the more recent ones, obviously) have been absolute favorites for a very long...

Harold

Arsalan wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:42 pm
2000 was a very good year for music and this list makes it clear. Wouldn't it be better to put "Yellow" instead of "Shiver"?

"Shiver" is a better song - the best on that album, in fact. As great as "Yellow" is, Spin made the right choice here.

Harold

I have made a decision on the deadline: September 31st is the soft deadline So, since September 31st doesn't actually exist, that means there IS no deadline. Sweet! :mrgreen: I wasn't sure I'd be participating this time around, but I think the unveiling of the Rolling Stone list motivated me. I'll ...

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I have made a decision on the deadline: September 31st is the soft deadline So, since September 31st doesn't actually exist, that means there IS no deadline. Sweet! :mrgreen: I wasn't sure I'd be participating this time around, but I think the unveiling of the Rolling Stone list motivated me. I'll ...

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Schüttelbirne wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:14 pm
In a way I'd rather see the individual Top 50 lists.

I know six albums that probably didn't make Taylor Swift's list...

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I also forgot that both earlier versions of the song list had entries that were less than a year old (Hey Ya! on the 2004 list, Moment of Surrender on the 2010 list, and I can see one of those songs clearly sticking around and moving up and the other, if they have any sense of musical significance ...

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StevieFan13 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:48 pm
I also can't recall if any Vampire Weekend made the cut, which would be bizarre if they didn't given how well-received Modern Vampires of the City was.

MVotC is #328.

Harold

I'm not sure how old you are, but as someone who was a teenager when they came out, I can confirm that The Black Parade and Man on the Moon... had an enormous impact upon youth culture when they were released. The Black Parade is without a doubt the defining album of the 2000s pop-emo scene, and Ma...

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Illiniq wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:14 am
And am I correct that Smiths didn’t land a single album.

The Queen is Dead is #113.

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The three 2019 albums have two logical choices and also Kid Cudi. Haven’t listened to it myself but also haven’t seen a lot of critical acclaim for it. As I noted in another post, RS got the date wrong for the Kid Cudi album - it's actually from 2009, not 2019. There are three 2019 albums, though, ...

Harold

That Kid Cudi album is from 2009, not 2019. That's RS's error, and it's kind of an embarrassing one.

Harold

Thanks for getting this transcribed so quickly! I did jump straight to the top 50 when I visited the RS website. I'm sure the rest of the list will confirm the initial impression that this is a fascinating and frustrating effort by RS to revamp the canon (I have no doubt they're already receiving ha...

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Obviously, someone will need to transcribe and post.

And, cue the collective apoplectic outrage of internet music geeks (including me, I'm afraid) right off the bat:

#500 is Arcade Fire's Funeral.

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EiXDVicWsAAzKYw.jpeg This will be the new cover of RS. Anyone have seen the list? I saw that this morning too, and immediately went to their website - the list is not up yet. I don't think the print issue is coming out for a couple of weeks so I wouldn't expect to see the list for a while. I confes...

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Eddie Jobson's closing electric violin solo on "Out of the Blue" by Roxy Music. Greatest example of tension-and-release that I can think of. The whole track has been building up to something explosive, but that still doesn't prepare you for just how incredibly exciting it is.

Harold

Not being able to read Russian, I can't tell if my personal favorite Russian rock song of the 20th century is in here: "Berserker," as sung by Jay's cousin Olaf from Moscow ("Olaf's a metal singer - back home in Moscow he's got his own band, they're called Fuck Your Yankee Bluejeans or something lik...

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jamieW wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:56 pm
I was a bit disappointed myself. There was only 1 song on the entire album that I really loved.

I see what you did there...

Harold

Found here: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/MarilynRoxie/nme__the_50_darkest_albums_ever_made/ Don't know if eligible. Somehow I doubt that lists based on subjective, abstract qualities of music would be eligible. Interesting list, though (even though this is probably the one and only time that Cold...

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Welcome back, Otis! Great work as always.

Highlights section should be pretty easy for Microphones in 2020...

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DaveC wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:41 pm
Thriller: Three great tracks surrounded by... well I forget.

Which is the third, for you? I'm guessing "Wanna Be Startin' Something," but some people might say "Human Nature." (Not the title track, presumably, which would be nothing without Vincent Price and John Landis.)

Harold

I find it hilarious that you criticize my English abilities in such a poorly formed sentence. Thanks for the laughs. Henry, while I agree that Wisna's comment was uncalled for (it's basically "NO! I SAID 'SAVAGE,' NOT 'SAVAGES'! CAN'T YOU REEEAAADDD???!!!???"), it's pretty obvious that English isn'...

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"Real savage-like!" -- Lindsey Buckingham, "Tusk" It's by Lindsey Buckingham but "Tusk" but doesn't including "Savage" in the title song. Are you find another song by Lindsey Buckingham or his band, Fleetwood Mac, with "Savage" in the title? I was just noting the quote (it pops up in the middle of ...

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Remain in Light: I prefer The Great Curve over Once in a Lifetime. What's Going On is my go-to example ( the three acclaimed songs are waaay better than the others), though I appreciate that the album flows smoothly from song to song. These would be the exact two I would think of (particularly sinc...

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Trinita' wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:37 pm
Can't see July 31 update..

It hasn't been posted yet. Otisredding may be on holiday.

Harold

Perhaps they are still coving corona because here in America, just about everyone i know has been infected or knows someones who has been in the past month or two Wow. Where do you live? I do know a few individuals who have been infected. Most notably my own Mother (81 years of age), my Aunt and Un...

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"Real savage-like!"
-- Lindsey Buckingham, "Tusk"

Harold

Yes, Wisnu Tirta Aji, that was an unnecessarily rude comment. Hopefully Otis would be enjoying a well deserved holidays and he will be back with an update when he can. There is not such a hurry, is there? I actually don't think Wisna was trying to be rude, or sarcastic - I believe he was being comp...

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I can't really speak on behalf of Otisredding, but every year in July and August there seems to be a "lost" update of some sorts. Maybe he's worried about being attacked by angry Taylor Swift fans if folklore 's ranking isn't high enough. :mrgreen: Or maybe he get ill, remember that some news chann...

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The update is taking longer than usual - everything OK, Otisredding? I can't really speak on behalf of Otisredding, but every year in July and August there seems to be a "lost" update of some sorts. I always expect a Summer holiday of some sort plays a part in it. Maybe he's worried about being att...

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The update is taking longer than usual - everything OK, Otisredding?

Harold

I really feel bad for the guy and I hope he gets the help he needs. I hope that the "Kanye West story" has a happy ending... +1 It feels like he's in danger now. Edit: Or maybe that's hyperbole. Let's just hope everything works out. His marriage is in shambles tho. Kim just posted a plea for unders...

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Hey, I just wanted to say that the long post I made on the Kanye thread was partly psychotic rambling and now I'm in a mental hospital cos of those psychotic thoughts. These thoughts started way before that post so it's completely on me to bring up those thoughts. It's like I was trying to find an ...

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I don't understand why my country is so dense about wearing masks. Unfortunately America's been cultivating an anti-science, anti-education culture for years now, and this is the result of that. Large swaths of the population don't believe scientists, the "mainstream" media, or public officials, so...

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OK, we've moved beyond music in this Music forum thread to politics, links to propaganda videos, etc. Let's end this thread gracefully and re-establish it, perhaps, in a more appropriate area of the forum.

Harold

Question is, what if Pence runs? Then we'd have a problem. As awful as Pence is, I would much rather have him as president than face the prospect of an even-more-unhinged Trump in a second term with nothing to lose because he won't need to face voters again. If the very unlikely scenario comes to p...

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Great rollout of a fascinating list. I'm sorry I didn't participate. I was also initially surprised to see Whiplash so high; I love the film, but wasn't expecting it to be the 4th highest ranked for the entire decade. The more I think about it, though, the more I realize how hard it is to shake the ...

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Matski wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:10 am
Only half way through 2020 and there's already half-a-dozen 90+ rated albums on there. I wonder if critics have been easing up on their usual standards this year?

Or, maybe there are just more really good albums?

Harold

Agreed with Henrik, nicely written! I do disagree with one point though. I don’t think it was a conservative message at the end - I think Bong was showing that it was unrealistic for him to achieve that degree of wealth simply through hard work. The film made it appear like everything was coming to...

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Bumping this thread to note that the perfect 100 is no more - the Metacritic score is now "down" to a mere 98, apparently because of the 80 assigned to Mojo's review in late May. Or maybe they simply decided, "You know what, no album is worthy of a perfect 100," and tweaked the algorithm accordingly...

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panam wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:09 pm
Anybody commenting the final list or just we talk about politics and Harry Potter?

I agree, let's not let this thread get derailed, please. These are great discussions but should be in their own thread.

Anyway - great job, Kingoftonga, and thanks for being willing to take this over!

Harold

Henrik wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:35 pm
Thanks and sorry Harold for this awfully late response!!!

No worries - I assumed you were busy. You're welcome!

Harold

But social status was not an adequate explanation or justification for the increasingly horrific actions later on, in my opinion. Many of them could and should have been avoided by any reasonable person, regardless of circumstances. What's easy to miss on a first viewing, I think, is that Mr. Kim (...

Harold

I've added some as well but I have a question: For purposes of the all-time list, if an album is composed of archival material, is the year considered to be when the recordings it contains were actually RECORDED or when the work was made AVAILABLE to consumers? Case in point: https://rateyourmusic....

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but..."Old town road".. Well, when your debut single breaks the all-time record for longest run at #1 on the Billboard Hot 100, I guess that's a pretty strong argument for inclusion. (Not saying it necessarily deserves to be there from an artistic standpoint, just assuming that's why they included ...

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As I have noted several times in this forum, I've always had a fondness for Phi-Phenomenon, even though by any objective standard it's an almost-comically out-of-date website (even the creator acknowledges this in the latest update) and has some questionable-at-best methodology. But at the time I di...

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I want to say "Rapper's Delight" was excluded because The Sugarhill Gang's discography does not have a lot of long-lasting impact beyond that, but that reasoning obviously doesn't work because I've literally never heard anyone mention a second song by The Weather Girls. but..."Old town road".. Well...

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Should Hopelessness be considered a debut album? It's obviously ANOHNI's first release under that name, but she has a whole prior history.

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And britney is a dumb untalented bimbo who doesn't sing on her own albums, never sing live, not to mention her lip syncing to other people vocals in "live" shows, she looks like a zombie in a stage and can't even make a mediocre performance. Don't let me talk about her disastrous discography. The p...

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The bookends are kinda crap, at least in regards to that high of a placement, but a lot of good songs in between. Rob's mostly right about Britney Spears, she was basically like Debbie Gibson and Tiffany before her, just with better writing, production and marketing. You know that Debbie Gibson wro...

Harold

This is a fascinating list - it's like a perfect snapshot of how the music-critic canon has been changing over time, and even more specifically of how Rolling Stone has been trying to reposition itself as a curator of that canon. Before seeing this, could anyone have envisioned a greatest-debut-sing...

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