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by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:19 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Okay
Replies: 82
Views: 28465

Okay

This is a place where we think music critics matter. If you don't then go to another forum. Okay, if that's the way you want it. I should have known that a forum full of Europeon Communists would not let anybody come around and have different opinions than they do. I'll leave you clowns here with y...
by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:39 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Thanks Romain, Dan and jamieW 31/200 is 15.5%. So I actually have MORE newer acts on the lists than I would need to, to accurately represent the past 15 years. Those 31 acts you selected don’t represent accurately the past 15 years. In fact only 3 of these 31 acts had their peak year within the las...
by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:06 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Your criteria didn’t include acclaim (recognition from experts), Music critics are NOT experts. They are rarely even musicians. Music critics are journalism majors who need to find something to write to fill up their columns. They are just guys who shit out of their assholes just like we do. Their ...
by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:49 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists
Replies: 220
Views: 78415

Re: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists

99) Carl who ? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dc/Jamboree_Carl_Perkins.jpg/250px-Jamboree_Carl_Perkins.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Perkins Carl Lee Perkins (April 9, 1932 – January 19, 1998)[1] was an American rockabilly musician who recorded most notably at Sun Records ...
by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:32 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

your selection of newer acts on your list, a grand total of 31 out of 200. That's exactly where it should be. Recorded music has been around for 125 years. If we look at acts that have been big over the past 15 years, that's 15/125 or 12%. 31/200 is 15.5%. So I actually have MORE newer acts on the ...
by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:28 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

As for not defending my list well in your opinion, I am debating with people who don't want to learn anything about music they don't already know much about. No matter what I say to the Hendrix fan I'm not gonna convince him that Jimi does not belong in the top ten. Surely, you can see the irony in...
by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:53 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

In terms of periodization, 20th-century music makes me think of tennis. I would divide tennis into two periods. The first begins in the 1920s and ends in 1967 (the years before 1920 are a continuation of the late-19th century). The second period is the open era, which began in 1968 at the French Op...
by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:10 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

182. Pete Seeger and the Weavers gone. This list is gonna be awesome at the end if no one else is gonna play. 1. Beatles 2. Elvis Presley 3. Frank Sinatra 4. Bing Crosby 5. Michael Jackson / Jackson 5 6. Louis Armstrong 7. James Brown 8. Billie Holiday 9. Bob Dylan 10. Johnny Cash 11. Duke Ellingto...
by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:05 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists
Replies: 220
Views: 78415

Re: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists

Goodbye to this shite - 47. Patti Smith 1. The Beatles 3. Elvis Presley 4. The Rolling Stones 5. Chuck Berry 6. Jimi Hendrix 7. James Brown 8. Little Richard 9. Aretha Franklin 10. Ray Charles 11. Bob Marley 12. The Beach Boys 13. Buddy Holly 14. Led Zeppelin 15. Stevie Wonder 16. Sam Cooke 17. Mudd...
by SavoyBG
Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:47 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Overall though, minus a few quibbles with the top 100, I think this is a solid list. It's not often that you see a list tackle the popular artists of four generations in one list and I think you did a decent job. Thanks. You ought to read up on the Mills Brothers some. They are easily the greatest ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:59 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Just like we can have our own favorite artists, we can have our own view of the greatest artists. It is as simple as that. Listyguy and SavoyBG, if you haven't agreed to disagree when I wake up tomorrow this will be another closed thread. Henrik, I have no problem agreeing to disagree and just gett...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:49 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

None of them come close to Hendrix, in any way. He mastered his instrument in a way nobody has ever, or will ever again, master theirs. GREATEST ALL GENRE GUITARISTS http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitar-all.html Criteria: - Criteria: - These are the 100 greatest guitarists of all genres of...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:35 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Jimi Hendrix is nowhere near the top ten acts of all time. Do you guys think that rock and roll is the only kind of music that there is? Hendrix is not in the league of people like Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Billie Holiday, Ray Charles, and several other giants of ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:12 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Whether I have heard a Nirvana song or not is not relevant (I have) to calculating their historical standing among the all time great recording artists. My personal opinion of their music is just not relevant. It seems to shine through pretty clearly all over the place. A career that only consists ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:10 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Whether I have heard a Nirvana song or not is not relevant (I have) to calculating their historical standing among the all time great recording artists. My personal opinion of their music is just not relevant. It seems to shine through pretty clearly all over the place. A career that only consists ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:40 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

I don't see the need for building favoritism into the game by making it harder to eliminate the top ones. Either they all should need two strikes or none of them should. An artist being placed highly on a list does not mean it is crazy not to agree with that placement. BTW, what are we going to do ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:23 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists
Replies: 220
Views: 78415

Re: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists

40. Simon & Garfunkle

Garfunkel is spelled wrong.
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:22 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists
Replies: 220
Views: 78415

Re: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists

Chris K. wrote:24. Jerry Lee Lewis is out.
You just shitcanned the greatest piano player in rock history.
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:56 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists
Replies: 220
Views: 78415

Re: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists

Henry wrote:78. The Stooges Punk was never my favorite and while I understand that the Stooges were a large influence for Cobain, I still don't enjoy their songs very much.
I agree, the Stooges musaic was essentially incoherent noise.
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:48 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists
Replies: 220
Views: 78415

Re: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists

95. Lynyrd Skynyrd Ok, Freebird is a great song, and so is Sweet Home Alabama. The rest of their songs sound like Blue Collar Comedy Tour routines. "My neeeeck is still red! My haiiiir's turnin white! My cooolllar is bluuuee!" That sounds like a parody of a Toby Keith song. I like a few others. Wha...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:38 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

My view on popularity, influence and impact is obviously borrowed from critics and there are other ways to look at it. Again there is no right or wrong, because there are no objective measures of these criteria. Savoy, thanks for the discussion. I have nothing more to say now. There are certainly o...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:28 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Do you have any arguments against Nirvana that don't include their 38 song studio catalog? Perhaps a better question: Have you ever heard a Nirvana song? Whether I have heard a Nirvana song or not is not relevant (I have) to calculating their historical standing among the all time great recording a...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:59 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

I said those are the ones that should obviously be ahead of Nirvana. Those three that you mention here are really difficult to compare to Nirvana. It depends on how you weight the past and the present. All four artists have had huge popularity and impact in the past. Minus for Nirvana is that they ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:43 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Here's a more accurate list of the top recording artists of all time. It takes AM and also DDD year lists into account in their rankings: http://tsort.info/music/faq_greatest_act.htm The year listed was the act's biggest year. 1 The Beatles 1964 2 Elvis Presley 1956 3 Frank Sinatra 1957 4 The Rollin...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:38 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Poliuks wrote:Actually you have it ranked below Robert Johnson...
Everything stemmed from Robert Johnson. We'll see if Nirvana is more famous 80 years after their career like Johnson is. I doubt that people will even know who they are in 2075.
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:32 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Okay, here's the top 50 right now. Which of these acts do you feel should be below Nirvana? Using your criteria, here are the ones that I think should obviously be ahead of Nirvana. I'm not saying that Nirvana should be #7, but it's closer to how I see it than your 273rd place. Beatles Elvis Presle...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:29 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Who would you remove from the current top 50 to make room for Nirvana? I could make a list of about 25 or so artists on that list, but I'll say ABBA for right now. Abba was the biggest artist in the world for a decade and they turned down a billion dollards to go on tour again, and you want them to...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:07 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Before you answer, let's just remember that Nirvana has released a grand total of about 40 studio tracks in their entire career. Nirvana may have only released 38 studio tracks (albeit most of them are exceptional), but they still had one of the greatest impacts of the 90's. You, as a music histori...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:06 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Maybe I should drop Sarah Vaughan and Charles Mingus so we can add all time greats like Justin Bieber and Portishead. Yeah, why not? Going by your criteria, Justin Bieber has a fan base the other artists would never dream of and Portishead is at least more influental than Sarah Vaughan. And I love ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:57 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

And Nirvana, I assume you consider them very popular but as you don't find them great you have excluded them from the top 200? I'm just trying to understand as I think they should be in the top 30 if you're making an attempt to be objective. Okay, here's the top 50 right now. Which of these acts do...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:47 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists
Replies: 220
Views: 78415

Re: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists

Mattceinicram wrote:Yep, as I expected, some of those new immortals didn't really stand any chance :D
That's because they are not immortals yet. Naming them immortals is like putting Mike Trout in the hall of fame now.
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:43 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Given that recorded music has been around for 125 years, the last 15 years ahould only get about 12% (15/125). And that's assuming that you are ready to decalre an act an all time great after just 8 or 10 years. Considering the acts you had listed as new are from the past 45 years, that would make ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:28 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

I consider myself an above average knowledgeable music fan, and there are artists on this list I'm not really familiar with. Hence, as much as I think most of us should learn more about music history, to me the name of this list isn't fitting. It looks more like "the 200 most popular artists of old...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:24 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

If it was based on my musical preferences there would be no Madonna, no Police/Sting, no Mariah Carey, no Whitney Houston, no Radiohead, No Pearl Jam, No Jay-Z, No R. Kelly, etc...etc...etc.... Well..you still have them ridiculously low, as well as Velvet Underground which you have expressed a disl...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:22 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

We don't feel that an act that has only been around for 8 or 10 years has done enough yet to warrant inclusion among the greats of all time. That's something that an artist earns over a lifetime. Or at least over decades of work. Same reason why acts are not eligible for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fam...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:41 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

I think I've got it now. The list is a combination of greatness according to you and popularity accoring to Billboard. If you confirm this I have no more questions. :D I can't confirm this because there are artists on the list who never had a hit on Billboard, like Lead Belly and Son House, for ins...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:36 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

You used Peter Frampton as an example of an artist who were very popular, but just over a few years, as an argument to not include new artists. But what about The Ravens? According to Wikipedia "They were one of the most successful and most influential vocal quartets of the period, and had several ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:27 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

I have no intention of naming any of the acts on the list you just included or any acts that are not on the above list, nor am i going to name any acts that i think might warrant exclusion from the list. Any acts i might mention for either exclusion or addition to the list would be tainted by my ow...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:08 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

The vast majority of the acts you've just listed were at there creative peaks 20/30/40 years ago, so depending on the age of the person you ask, the answer might well be a most definite yes. i can appreciate that the recorded music industry has been around longer than any of us, and i'm sure the in...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:52 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 GREATEST ROCK SONGS
Replies: 348
Views: 115945

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 GREATEST ROCK SONGS

Thanks for moving this along Savoy. It was very enjoyable for me. No problem, me too. Sorry your last selection had to be disqualified, but rules are rules. For what I see : Henry played the 6th at 02:15 pm and the 7th art 03:46 am, it's not the same day for me. :whistle: When you run YOUR contest ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:42 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

I consider myself an above average knowledgeable music fan, and there are artists on this list I'm not really familiar with. Hence, as much as I think most of us should learn more about music history, to me the name of this list isn't fitting. It looks more like "the 200 most popular artists of old...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:36 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Top 50 is OK but after that this list is terrible... I'm the editor of the list. Which artists do you have a problem with being there? Or it just that it's done mainly from a USA point of view? Well, if it was called "most popular artists" I would have a bit less issues than "greatest popular artis...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:41 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Here's the current list. The S line does not copy when you copy and paste so see Mariah Carey for what else you need to do when giving a top 100 artist their first strike. That way the poster will know which acts need to get the S when they post. 1. Beatles 2. Elvis Presley 3. Frank Sinatra 4. Bing ...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:35 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Nassim wrote:Top 50 is OK but after that this list is terrible...
I'm the editor of the list. Which artists do you have a problem with being there? Or it just that it's done mainly from a USA point of view?
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:42 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

Henry wrote:
Savoy - I would be very surprised if there aren't two votes against the Beatles.
Okay, if there's two votes they will be out.
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:39 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 GREATEST ROCK SONGS
Replies: 348
Views: 115945

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 GREATEST ROCK SONGS

Henry wrote:Thanks for moving this along Savoy. It was very enjoyable for me.
No problem, me too. Sorry your last selection had to be disqualified, but rules are rules.
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:58 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 GREATEST ROCK SONGS
Replies: 348
Views: 115945

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 GREATEST ROCK SONGS

Casting my vote at 12:01 EDT, I declare Billie Jean the winner. Gimme Shelter came so close to winning, after winning the last two singles games too. Gimme Shelter was not a single...at least not in the USA or the UK. Whatever it was, it won both Bracketology and the AM Songs poll. And if Henry's v...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:42 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists
Replies: 220
Views: 78415

Re: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists

By the way this list is horrendous.

26. Ramones
29. The Who

How the fuck do the Ramones beat the Who?

60. The Sex Pistols
65. The Kinks
68. The Temptations

How the fuck do the Sex Pistols beat the Kinks and Temptations. Fucking ludicrous.
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:25 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists
Replies: 84
Views: 30735

Re: EXTINCTION - 200 Greatest Artists

In order to eliminate an act in the top 100 it takes two different posters to vote that act out. Do not you think it would be better that all artists (top 200) are eliminated with two votes? No, I think the acts in the top 100 deserve an advantage. This was we don't get Moonbeam eliminating the Bea...
by SavoyBG
Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:59 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists
Replies: 220
Views: 78415

Re: Another elimination game- Rolling Stone greatest artists

Looks like we had similar ideas at the same time. Okay, your game should be over quicker than mine anyway. This atrocious band is finished - 19. The Velvet Underground 1. The Beatles 2. Bob Dylan 3. Elvis Presley 4. The Rolling Stones 5. Chuck Berry 6. Jimi Hendrix 7. James Brown 8. Little Richard 9...