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For being "indie," it has a few very-middle-of-the-road, mainstream songs listed.

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Sin also did a 5 Best Videos of the Last 35 years list. That one was credited to Spin Staff, unlike the songs list, which has a single writer. She does write "we" in the intro, though, for what it's worth.

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cregis- Immaculate notes that the album was engineered in Q sound, and in each individual song credit, it says "Mixed by Shep Pettibone and..." one of two other people. "Borderline" isn't far off of the hit version, which was used in the video; I prefer that one to the original album version. As for...

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Billboard' posted a 100 Greatest Mariah Carey Songs. https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/9457661/mariah-carey-best-songs-top-100 100. “Forever” (1995) 99. “Didn’t Mean to Turn You On” (2001) 98. “Cruise Control,” feat. Damian Marley (2008) 97. “U Make Me Wanna,” Jadakiss feat. Mariah Care...

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Note that the title was altered to reflect the pandemic, as albums to listen to while in lockdown.

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I meant to write 2012 in my last post- the 2 was missing at the end. :) cregis- of note is that the two most obvious remixes on Immaculate - "Like a Prayer" and "Express Yourself" - gained prominence when Madonna performed those version on the Blond Ambition tour. She also set a second version of th...

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i had forgotten that The Immaculate Collection had a notably higher placement in the 201 update. cregis- as for compilations: Note that there aren't that many on the list. Something like Immaculate is just such a force to be reckoned with, that it's ingrained in many's minds. It so defined its era, ...

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One thing top keep in mins is that, like the initial list, this featured a good number of voters (300-plus), so it's not just Rolling Stone contributors having their say.

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Thanks, Rocky. And Holden for posting the acts with the most entries. I did a "find" for Beatles, and must have missed a couple.

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Doing a quick scan, looks like Bob Dylan has the most entries (8; includes an album with The Band); the Beatles and Rolling Stones follow, with seven and six, respectively, followed by Bruce Springsteen, David Bowie and Led Zeppelin (five each). Among others with multiple entries, Stevie Wonder, Pri...

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Slant had published this list back in the 2000s, I think? Though this may be an updated one.

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Britney Spears isn't regarded as one of the great artists of all time- though "...Baby..." was very impactful, and, is one of two notably acclaimed singles in her career. The song's also the epitome of the Max Martin sound at the time.

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Slant has updated its list to her 82 Singles Ranked. https://www.slantmagazine.com/music/all-82-madonna-singles-ranked/ 82. “Revolver” 81. “Another Suitcase in Another Hall” 80. “Bitch I’m Madonna” 79. “Girl Gone Wild” 78. “You Must Love Me” 77. “Celebration” 76. “Give Me All Your Luvin’” 75. “4 Min...

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I inquired Village Voice via Twitter. Unfortunately, no Pazz & Jop poll this year. A shame, as it's been such a constant in the world of music criticism.

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Great to see Pat B. and Whitney H. among the nominees (Pat's hubby Neil G. is listed with her- yay). Here's my usual rundown of nominees, with their number of nominations and years that they've been eligible. Eight acts who have been eligible in previous years receive their first nod, with Notorious...

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Bruno- noticed that, too. Also- no Donna Summer. Granted, the albums as a whole were never as revered as the singles.

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Here's a new one, for her 61st birthday. :) Single-writer byline, though he uses "we," "us," etc. https://parade.com/897929/samuelmurrian/best-madonna-songs-ranked/ 100. “Bitch I’m Madonna” (Rebel Heart, 2015) 99. “Impressive Instant” (Music, 2000) 98. “Devil Wouldn’t Recognize You” (Hard Candy, 200...

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Nice to see Kacey Musgraves get so much critical love- liked her since hearing "Follow Your Arrow."

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You do what you feel is best for you, Henrik. We all appreciate the work and effort you've put into this site through the years. Whatever happens, after a couple of more updates, an archival site (and continuing forum) would be satisfying.

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Here's the rundown of nominees, in terms of years they've been eligible and how many nominations they've had thus far: * The Cure- 16th year of eligibility; Second nomination * Def Leppard- 15th year of eligibility; First nomination * Devo- 17th year of eligibility; First nomination * Janet Jackson-...

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Some Madonna lists: * Slant: 15 Greatest Madonna Non-Singles (2018 update) https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/15-greatest-madonna-non-singles * Standard/Go London: The 15 best Madonna songs to celebrate her 60th Birthday (2018) https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london/music/the-15-best-madonna-...

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Hot Press: Madonna at 60: Greatest Songs List https://www.hotpress.com/music/listen-60-madonnas-greatest-songs-22752274 60) Dance 2Night 59) Mother and Father 58) Rebel Heart 57) Falling Free 56) Nothing Fails 55) Gone 54) Oh Father 53) Masterpiece 52) Me Against The Music 51) Hanky Panky 50) Deeper...

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This list definitely reads more mainstream-friendly, overall- not that there's anything wrong with that, as some of the most celebrated albums of all time are by mainstream acts.

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The EW writer expanded his initial list of 35 to 60; maybe will post that another time/ Meanwhile, here's one from The Guardian: The Guardian: Every One of Madonna's 78 singles Ranked https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/aug/16/every-one-of-madonnas-78-singles-ranked 78. Hanky Panky (1990) 77. Hey...

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I thought Enertainment Weekly would do a 60 Greatest multi-critic list, but not long ago,it had that 35 Songs single-critic list, so we won't see one now. Billboard has done a 100 Greatest list, though. :-) https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/list/8469835/100-greatest-madonna-songs-list 100. "Ha...

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With the Queen of Pop turning 60 this month, I imagine there may be some more similar lists. https://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/the-beat-goes-on-every-madonna-single-ranked Slant (USA): Every Madonna Single Ranked 78. “Revolver” 77. “Another Suitcase in Another Hall” 76. “Bitch I’m Madon...

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I didn't participate, dangit- maybe next year. Would Madonna have been bumped up with my No. 1 ranking?

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Another year vs. year: Cher's "Believe" was released in October 1998, and hit the U.S. top 40 in early 1999 (on its way to the top). Compared to most other countries, though, the USA success came after, so I guess 1998 is OK for that one.

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As an FYI (not sure if it was posted here), a ranked list from cleveland.com:

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment ... defin.html

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^As Bon Jovi is present, looks like he- or they- did.

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http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2018/03/250_greatest_songs_by_rock_rol.html Not sure if this is eligible. A single critic is credited, though he uses "we" several times in the introduction. No act allowed more than five songs. A mix of criteria for the selections. 250 Greatest Rock ...

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After Journey's induction last year, doesn't surprise me at all that Bon Jovi has been voted into the Hall. Never big critical favorites, but very popular, with mass appeal. Radiohead pretty much shot itself in the foot, at least in terms of first-year-eligible induction. Glad to see Nina Simon make...

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Much thanks, Henrik, and to those who have assisted and lent their time since the last update. As usual, lots to peruse and enjoy. I'm not going to start a new Summary thread in the Critics Lists forum just yet. I know stevie added a number of lists to the existing one, so it will be a matter of sif...

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You crafty, sly, tricky devil, you.

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Not sure any outlet has dared to do this prior. I didn't think the Rock Hall has said "success" is one of the measurements? (though, obviously, a good amount of inductees enjoyed decent commercial success) http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/11/rock_roll_hall_of_fame_a_defin.html R...

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It may not be the biggest hits, but any list with, for instance, Journey doing that well... makes it questionable.

The band is now in the Rock Hall, but it took a number of years and critics never loved them.

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Amen. The update will come when it comes. We all appreciate- as we should- the amount of work and dedication Henrik (and others) put into the site.

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The other writer may not have said anywhere that they were his/her own picks, though.

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What would such loophole be?

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This is a single-critic's list, even though he says "EW." On his Twitter page, he wrote that he got to rank his favorites.

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bootsy- neither Whitney or Mariah have been huge critical favorites trough the years. But, neither were Journey, Neil Diamond, etc.- so, it may just take some time for them to get considered. While Mariah co-wrote most of her material, unlike Whitney, I still think the Hall would consider her first....

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A mid-decade birth; 1975

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babydoll- don't forget the exquisite "Something to Remember," which later became the title track of her ballads compilation. I also quite like "More," and some of the other tracks are fun- but I wouldn't put it in contention as one of her best albums. At the time, it was definitely a left-field type...

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The positive outlook is going strong- they rescheduled one of Olivia's concert dates to late September.

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On a side Olivia note, apparently she and her daughter have cameos in the upcoming Sharknado 5 . Surely she's aware of the franchise's absurdity and just thought it would be something fun to do with Chloe. :D Back to her videos, though- I'd recommend checking out some of her early videos. Crazy, in ...

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This is upsetting, but she is a strong, formidable woman- sending positive thoughts her way.

Even more reason to appreciate her if you're a fan, or even admire her as a woman/human being.

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OK- I can see that point, Stevie. But, as prosecutor mentioned, Danny also was willing to change for Sandy. I think it showed, though, that it wasn't just that motivating Sandy- she herself looked to be having some inner struggle with being "Sandra Dee," and wanted a change. I love 'Xanadu" the song...

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Ahh, yes- the part about "Greased Lightnin' was tied to the comment about Grease, so I should have tied them together.

Is there anything in particular about Grease that "annoys" you, if ya don't mind me asking?

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She didn't sing on "Greased Lightnin'," though "The Grease Megamix" includes that track, plus two that she does sing on. ;) Olivia does seem like a good person, especially with all the humanitarian/environmental work she's done. She had to postpone many concerts this month because of a problem with ...

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Perish those thoughts, babydoll and bootsy. There's been enough loss, musically and personally. It is unfortunate that it takes someone passing for some to appreciate an act or check them out. So why not celebrate them when they're here, especially those who are, in general, underappreciated? :music...

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