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by Jackson
Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition: Results
Replies: 110
Views: 3466

Re: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition: Results

I'm loving the rollout so far, and I think it validates the idea of counting everyone's top 1000. It's amazing that songs with as many as 9 votes didn't make the top 1000. That is quite different from past lists, when many songs with just 2 votes would crack into the rankings. Of all the songs so fa...
by Jackson
Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1997 Poll
Replies: 43
Views: 1399

Re: Songs and Albums of 1997 Poll

The year is so deep and so fun, the nice convergence of a lot of sounds in both mainstream and underground rock. Albums 1 | Spiritualized | Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space 2 | Radiohead | OK Computer 3 | Built to Spill | Perfect From Now On 4 | Ween | The Mollusk 5 | Elliott Smith | Ei...
by Jackson
Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:22 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs/tracks of 2018
Replies: 39
Views: 4926

Re: Songs/tracks of 2018

Here are some of my favorites so far, roughly in order: Tier one (SOTY contenders): Anna van Hausswolff - The Mysterious Vanishing of Electra This is an astonishing track that channels Seer-era Swans and early PJ Harvey. It's made even better by the ridiculously creepy video, linked above. Let's Eat...
by Jackson
Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:22 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1997 Poll
Replies: 43
Views: 1399

Re: Songs and Albums of 1997 Poll

DaveC wrote:
BleuPanda wrote:Songs:
1 | Spiritualized | Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space...


Pleased to see you back BleuPanda


...with the right song at number one :) 1997 is loaded but hoping this and Dry the Rain can both make the cut.
by Jackson
Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:01 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs/tracks of 2018
Replies: 39
Views: 4926

Re: Songs/tracks of 2018

acroamor wrote:
discord wrote:Caroline Rose - Jeannie Becomes a Mom


Yessssss. If this list is in rank order, we share the same number one.


I've been going through this thread this week to find some overlooked tracks, and this is my favorite so far. Thanks for the rec
by Jackson
Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:50 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Albums that were really great in your opinion but didn't make it in AM?
Replies: 53
Views: 2369

Re: Albums that were really great in your opinion but didn't make it in AM?

Wolf Alice's two albums (2015's My Love is Cool and especially 2017's Visions of a Life) are some glaring recent omissions for me. They are almost completely unnoticed by critics in the U.S., which is a shame as they should be heralded as one of the best active rock bands. Also Ween is incredibly un...
by Jackson
Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:03 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition
Replies: 507
Views: 36755

Re: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition

I voted for the simple and spare (therefore "uncommercial") Audrey Hepburn version but I'll be more than happy if it's decided that all versions of the song in the movie are combined, i.e., Henry Mancini/Audrey Hepburn, "Moon River," since it would mean a higher ranking for the ...
by Jackson
Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Albums of 2018
Replies: 174
Views: 20232

Re: Albums of 2018

I didn't see a mention of Let's Eat Grandma's I'm All Ears yet. I thought it was great on first listen. Similar aesthetic to Sophie (which is no surprise as it was co-produced by Sophie), but with better vocals.
by Jackson
Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:47 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1995 Poll
Replies: 62
Views: 2780

Re: Songs and Albums of 1995 Poll

Albums 1 | PJ Harvey | To Bring You My Love 2 | Mercury Rev | See You on the Other Side 3 | Tricky | Maxinquaye 4 | Raekwon | Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 5 | GZA/Genius | Liquid Swords 6 | Mobb Deep | The Infamous… 7 | Pulp | Different Class 8 | Radiohead | The Bends 9 | Miossec | Boire 10 | Autechre |...
by Jackson
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:01 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition
Replies: 507
Views: 36755

Re: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition

Looking through the lists, I'm impressed at how many voters integrated classical pieces into their lists. It'll be interesting to see which classical 'song' comes out on top and to compare to the classical-specific poll from a few years ago. It's a goal of mine for the next poll (which will be in 20...
by Jackson
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition
Replies: 507
Views: 36755

Re: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition

First, I really want to thank sonofsamiam and Dan for your kind words! It was quite a depressing day with me working at my desk and listening to music and thinking about what might've been. After reading your supportive posts, I'm feeling a little better (though I wish I would've been able to submi...
by Jackson
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1995 Poll
Replies: 62
Views: 2780

Re: Songs and Albums of 1995 Poll

Albums: 1 | Scott Walker | Tilt 2 | The Flaming Lips | Clouds Taste Metallic 3 | Mercury Rev | See You on The Other Side 4 | PJ Harvey | To Bring You My Love 5 | Björk | Post Songs: 1 | Scott Walker | Farmer in the City 2 | Mercury Rev | Empire State (Son House In Excelcis) 3 | Radiohead | Street S...
by Jackson
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:55 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition
Replies: 507
Views: 36755

Re: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition

Here is my list -- see the extended lists thread for an extra 500. 1 | Spiritualized | Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space | 1997 2 | My Bloody Valentine | Soon | 1991 3 | Slint | Good Morning, Captain | 1991 4 | The Kinks | Waterloo Sunset | 1967 5 | Disco Inferno | The Long Dance | 1993 ...
by Jackson
Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:47 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Extended All-Time Songs Lists (2018 Edition)
Replies: 41
Views: 5729

Re: Extended All-Time Songs Lists (2018 Edition)

I've had a great time over the last few months taking advantage of the opportunity this poll created to expand my list and discover new artists and songs. In our 2010 edition of this poll, my list was 400 songs; in 2012, it was 800; in 2015, it was 1,000; and now for 2018, I've gone to 1,500. Thanks...
by Jackson
Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:17 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1993 Poll
Replies: 72
Views: 6946

Re: Songs and Albums of 1993 Poll

Albums: 1 | The Boo Radleys | Giant Steps 2 | Wu-Tang Clan | Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) 3 | Slowdive | Souvlaki 4 | Stereolab | Transient Random Noise-Bursts with Announcements 5 | Nirvana | In Utero 6 | Bjork | Debut 7 | Snoop Doggy Dogg | Doggystyle 8 | Tindersticks | Tindersticks 9 | Seafeel...
by Jackson
Thu May 24, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition
Replies: 507
Views: 36755

Re: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition

Been collecting a playlist for years with my opinion of the all-time top songs. Was super excited to find this site and had to join to share my version: Welcome to the forum! You've got an excellent list with lots of variety! Agreed, welcome! The list got more diverse and interesting the more I scr...
by Jackson
Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition
Replies: 507
Views: 36755

Re: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition

Jap123 wrote:23 The Records - Starry Eyes


This is one of my favorite discoveries from the individual lists so far, don't know how I'd never come across this great song before!
by Jackson
Wed May 09, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1993 Poll
Replies: 72
Views: 6946

Re: Songs and Albums of 1993 Poll

rumpdoll wrote:thanks for Disco Inferno, I didn't know them and the 5EPs are running on repeat at the moment, wonderful music


Nice! You should also check out their album D.I. Go Pop for next month's poll.
by Jackson
Fri May 04, 2018 2:45 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1993 Poll
Replies: 72
Views: 6946

Re: Songs and Albums of 1993 Poll

Slowdive is doing great in this thread so far. I've always felt like I'm one of the lone Souvlaki fans on the forum so glad to see that's change. I wonder if their comeback album last year led people to (re)discover it. Also, Bang Jan, I wish I had gotten my list in first! My top picks are very simi...
by Jackson
Tue May 01, 2018 12:51 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1992 Poll
Replies: 84
Views: 4952

Re: Songs and Albums of 1992 Poll

Albums 1 | Aphex Twin | Selected Ambient Works 85-92 2 | Spiritualized | Laser-Guided Melodies 3 | Ride | Going Blank Again 4 | PJ Harvey | Dry 5 | Pavement | Slanted and Enchanted 6 | Kyuss | Blues for the Red Sun 7 | Tori Amos | Little Earthquakes 8 | Kool G Rap and DJ Polo | Live and Let Die 9 |...
by Jackson
Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:54 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition
Replies: 507
Views: 36755

Re: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition

Awesome Fred, I love the list as always. Only problem is this gives me even more songs I need to listen to for my own list! Here's a nice task to give to yourself if you ever get bored: listen to every single song submitted here and rank them. If this goes by to fast, do the same for the album subm...
by Jackson
Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:09 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition
Replies: 507
Views: 36755

Re: The AMF Top Songs of All Time 2018 Edition

Awesome Fred, I love the list as always. Only problem is this gives me even more songs I need to listen to for my own list!
by Jackson
Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Noel Gallagher quote on lyrics
Replies: 11
Views: 996

Re: Noel Gallagher quote on lyrics

And sometimes the aesthetic appeal of the way the words sound are just as important as what the words say. There are some French artists like Brel or Miossec where the pure aesthetic quality of the words enhance the song for me. Totally agree on this point. I remember hearing Brian Eno came up with...
by Jackson
Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:23 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Extended All-Time Songs Lists (2018 Edition)
Replies: 41
Views: 5729

Re: Extended All-Time Songs Lists (2018 Edition)

I bet no one else ends up posting their list in this thread -- who would want to follow that? This post is one of the things I look forward to most on this forum. I'm looking forward to picking apart the list over the coming weeks and spending as much time with it as I did the 2015 edition. I can al...
by Jackson
Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:16 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 250 Women in Music
Replies: 167
Views: 11144

Re: AMF's Top 250 Women in Music

The disparity between Julia Holter's performance in the album and song polls and her placement in this one is pretty crazy. 43 artists have passed by since she placed at 94 and not a single one has matched her three top 150 albums (and only two have two top 100 albums). I get why she's not more popu...
by Jackson
Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:59 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1991 Poll
Replies: 71
Views: 4724

Re: Songs and Albums of 1991 Poll

When You Sleep at number 4 is an awesome out-of-nowhere placement that will probably never repeat again. It's interesting the consensus went for that track while Sometimes (25), To Here Knows When (27), and Only Shallow (39!) were so much lower, but no complaints here.
by Jackson
Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:54 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Overlooked Songs 2: Finals (Neighborhood #1 vs. Sinnerman)
Replies: 27
Views: 1885

Re: Overlooked Songs 2: Finals (Neighborhood #1 vs. Sinnerman)

I didn't vote throughout this poll, but would support Sinnerman. I've come to like several songs from Funeral (Wake Up, Haiti, In the Backseat, and Rebellion (Lies)) ahead of Neighborhood #1.
by Jackson
Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:51 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 250 Women in Music
Replies: 167
Views: 11144

Re: AMF's Top 250 Women in Music

The differences in points aren't very significant so far, but the biggest surprise to me is Katy Perry ranking ahead of Britney Spears, Taylor Swift, and Carly Rae Jepsen. I like songs from all four but to me KP is pretty clearly the weakest. I wonder how much higher Courtney Barnett would end up if...
by Jackson
Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1991 Poll
Replies: 71
Views: 4724

Re: Songs and Albums of 1991 Poll

Albums 1 | My Bloody Valentine | Loveless 2 | Slint | Spiderland 3 | Mercury Rev | Yerself is Steam 4 | A Tribe Called Quest | The Low End Theory 5 | Massive Attack | Blue Lines 6 | Jesus Lizard | Goat 7 | Nirvana | Nevermind 8 | Talk Talk | Laughing Stock 9 | Public Enemy | Apocalypse `91...The En...
by Jackson
Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:58 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Women in Music All-Time Lists - Submissions (Artist Deadline March 18)
Replies: 219
Views: 16881

Re: Women in Music All-Time Lists - Submissions (Artist Deadline March 18)

Last minute artists list: 1 | PJ Harvey 2 | Julia Holter 3 | Sleater-Kinney 4 | Björk 5 | Kate Bush 6 | Laetitia Sadier (Stereolab) 7 | Trish Keenan (Broadcast) 8 | Beth Gibbons (Portishead) 9 | Alice Coltrane 10 | Joanna Newsom 11 | Nina Simone 12 | The Ronettes 13 | Grimes 14 | Carly Rae Jepsen 15...
by Jackson
Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:38 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

Great list indeed. Will try to listen to it all. Just one thing that crosses my mind: I always viewed Be My Baby as first and foremost a Phil Spector song. It's a bit wry that the first place goes to a song were the main creative brain was a man. Though I would have voted for the song too, so there...
by Jackson
Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:29 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

Great number one! I didn't realize Be My Baby would be so dominant in this poll even as I voted it in the top spot.

Fantsstic job on the roll-out, BleuPanda
by Jackson
Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

That is a crazy high placement for Rolling in the Deep. I like the song well enough but is it really the #1 song on the list from the 2010s? And above Unfinished Sympathy, Heartbeats, and Glory Box? One of the stories of this poll is the Adele and Amy Winehouse re-appreciation movement. That defini...
by Jackson
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

That is a crazy high placement for Rolling in the Deep. I like the song well enough but is it really the #1 song on the list from the 2010s? And above Unfinished Sympathy, Heartbeats, and Glory Box? One of the stories of this poll is the Adele and Amy Winehouse re-appreciation movement.
by Jackson
Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:26 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1991 Poll
Replies: 71
Views: 4724

Re: Songs and Albums of 1991 Poll

Albums: 1 | My Bloody Valentine | Loveless 2 | Mercury Rev | Yerself Is Steam 3 | Talk Talk | Laughing Stock 4 | Sonny Sharrock | Ask The Ages 5 | A Tribe Called Quest | The Low End Theory Songs: 1 | Bob Dylan | Blind Willie McTell 2 | Primal Scream | Movin' on Up 3 | Talk Talk | Ascension Day 4 | ...
by Jackson
Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:23 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Planning for the all-time songs poll!
Replies: 42
Views: 2307

Re: Planning for the all-time songs poll!

I would love for the top 1000 songs to count, but only if the person running the poll is OK with the extra work. At this point songs 501-1000 on my list are songs I really love and support doing well in the poll, so it would be great if they could count :)
by Jackson
Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:49 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

Awesome placement for Feel You.

Very interesting to see Run Away With Me place so much higher than CRJ's other songs. I voted for it to, but surprised it beat Cut to the Feeling and really surprised it beat Call Me Maybe.
by Jackson
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

That run of 23, Bonnie and Clyde, and Kiss Me Again was fun.
by Jackson
Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:25 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1990 Poll
Replies: 94
Views: 5644

Re: Songs and Albums of 1990 Poll

I've noticed a lot of people post their lists the first couple of days the new thread is created. Does this mean they don't have time to listen to songs/albums from other people's lists, or is it just because they want to remind others of them before they vote? (I prefer to explore before posting, ...
by Jackson
Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:18 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

Call Me Maybe and Rid of Me this low is pretty shocking. Especially Call Me Maybe -- I thought it would do better given the success of other pop songs?
by Jackson
Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:18 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1990 Poll
Replies: 94
Views: 5644

Re: Songs and Albums of 1990 Poll

Interesting to see how many people are voting for the Twin Peaks soundtrack. Last time around, it wasn't even in our top 20; now it's looking like a lock for top 10. I assume the new season and the availability of the original series on Netflix were the main drivers. I certainly fall into the catego...
by Jackson
Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: Rank the tracks
Topic: Rank the Tracks: The Zombies' Odessey and Oracle (1968)
Replies: 12
Views: 1144

Re: Rank the Tracks: The Zombies' Odessey and Oracle (1968)

This album is impossibly good. Top three songs are all top 300 all time. 09 | This Will Be Our Year 06 | Hung Up on a Dream 01 | Care of Cell 44 12 | Time of the Season 10 | Butcher's Tale (Western Front 1914) 04 | Beechwood Park 05 | Brief Candles 03 | Maybe After He's Gone 11 | Friends of Mine 02 ...
by Jackson
Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

Lord, you know it's a shame when I only want for you to pull over and hold me 'til I can't remember my own name 375. Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Co. (2010) Score: 194.52 (Votes: 3) 2015 AMF Rank: 87 AM Rank: 490 Biggest Fan(s): notbrianeno (#19), sonofsamiam (#38) This one is very surpri...
by Jackson
Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:45 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1990 Poll
Replies: 94
Views: 5644

Re: Songs and Albums of 1990 Poll

Albums 1 | Megadeth | Rust in Peace 2 | Ride | Nowhere 3 | Angelo Badalamenti | Soundtrack from Twin Peaks 4 | Fugazi | Repeater 5 | Public Enemy | Fear of a Black Planet 6 | Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds | The Good Son 7 | Swell | Swell 8 | John Zorn | Naked City 9 | Pixies | Bossanova 10 | The Su...
by Jackson
Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:38 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: Songs and Albums of 1990 Poll
Replies: 94
Views: 5644

Re: Songs and Albums of 1990 Poll

01. Royal Trux. Twin Infinitives 02. Above The Law. Livin' Like Hustlers 03. X-Clan. To The East, Blackwards 04. Loop. A Gilded Eternity 05. Public Enemy. Fear Of A Black Planet 06. Pale Saints. The Comforts Of Madness 07. The Flaming Lips. In A Priest Driven Ambulance 08. His Name Is Alive. Livoni...
by Jackson
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:44 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

I forgot to vote for Brandt Rhapsodie since it's listed under Benjamin Biolay. I assume a bunch of other people did too since it finished lower here than it did on our overall songs list. Interesting that New Rules topped Cut to the Feeling in this poll even though that was not the case in our EOY p...
by Jackson
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:47 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: [Results] Albums of the 2000s
Replies: 78
Views: 5585

Re: [Results] Albums of the 2000s

Some interesting results so far in the top 20. Dear Science is a nice surprise at 15 (especially without my vote, which would have been in the top 10). I'm sure no one expected Godspeed to make the top 10 or Third to top Is This It either.
by Jackson
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:45 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women
Replies: 282
Views: 17635

Re: AMF's Top 1000 Songs by Women

Our love is a long goodbye 900. Natalie Prass - My Baby Don't Understand Me (2015) Score: 84.57 (Votes: 2) 2015 AMF Rank: unranked AM Rank: 556 Biggest Fan(s): Nassim (#109) C'mon and let me live 898. Kate Bush - Jig of Life (1985) Score: 84.79 (Votes: 2) 2015 AMF Rank: unranked AM Rank: unranked B...
by Jackson
Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:38 am
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF EOY Best Albums of 2017 -- RESULTS THREAD
Replies: 58
Views: 5002

Re: AMF EOY Best Albums of 2017 -- RESULTS THREAD

I'm pretty stunned that DAMN didn't win the poll. Also surprised to see Laura Marling in the top 10 (and even more surprising is her low rank in the critics' list). Very interesting poll this year.
by Jackson
Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:02 pm
Forum: Music, music, music...
Topic: AMF EOY Best Albums of 2017 -- RESULTS THREAD
Replies: 58
Views: 5002

Re: AMF EOY Best Albums of 2017 -- RESULTS THREAD

Kelly Lee Owens would've been even higher if I weren't late to the party. For some odd reason, I was under the impression this was a traditional folk album; and, since I've been up to my ears in "folk" albums the past few years, I wasn't in any hurry to hear it. I definitely hadn't antici...

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